Linux-Misc Digest #321, Volume #20 Sun, 23 May 99 18:13:07 EDT
Contents:
OpenLinux on Hards Disks over 8 Gigs (Jack Slater)
Re: yeh right (Re: SUID games? What is RedHat doing?) ("Michael T. Babcock")
Re: My Windows is dead...and I need it!! (mist)
Re: dummy device for SuSE 6.1 (Bjarne Nygaard)
Re: Why MS anti-linux group won't work (long) (Frank Sweetser)
Problem install window 95 after uninstall window 98 and linux (Xiaohong Wang)
Re: Ishmail no longer being developed - source code available (albi)
Re: Install woes, help please ("Ben Goble, Lakewood Colorado")
Re: kppp can't resolve addresses (newbie q) (Steve Nospam)
"tcp/:7100" Not available ??? (Joseph White)
Re: freezing up? ("bob")
Re: Root Password lost... (Mark Forsyth)
more DHCP problems (Itay Kishon)
What is possible using PPP? (Frank C Bogle)
Re: Ishmail no longer being developed - source code available (Hans Wolters)
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From: Jack Slater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: OpenLinux on Hards Disks over 8 Gigs
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 13:59:45 -0600
I'm trying to put Caldera Open Linux 1.3 and a new Dell machine with a
14 Gig hard disk that already has Win NT on some partitions. The Linux
fdisk seems unable to cope with the large disk; it recognizes only 8
gigs of the 14 gigs, and gives warnings about the NT partitions being
overlapped, and it thinks there is no open space on the disk, even there
there is actually lots of unassigned real-estate. Any suggestions on
how to get fdisk going so I can set up my partitions?
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From: "Michael T. Babcock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.security.unix
Subject: Re: yeh right (Re: SUID games? What is RedHat doing?)
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 19:58:48 +0000
I think the issue here is more one of the non-integration of help systems in
Linux. I think that the "press F1 for help" in Windows has helped a lot of
people in these situations. Given that man and info pages are so dense with
information, and /usr/doc/ directories contain so much more, shouldn't there
be some method of cueing the user to "press <???> for help if you don't
understand"? This could be similar to the per-option help in compiling the
Linux kernel ... then you offer the "This package only operates properly when
setuid root" with a "press <h> for some information on the potential issues"
or whatever. Then an understanding sysadmin can just say "yes" or "no"
knowingly, and new sysadmins (who should really read up on Linux issues before
installing a server at any rate) will know what's going on if they want to.
Hope my ideas aren't just my own :-)
- Windows can have the desktops -- Linux on the servers, please.
> I'd try to phrase it like:
>
> WARNING: setuid-root programs
>
> Some programs in this package use increased privileges: they run
> with root permissions. Technically: they are setuid-root programs.
> Such programs are a possible threat to the security of your computer,
> as they may enable crackers to gain root privileges if they have an
> account on your computer.
>
> You can install this package if:
>
> * you trust all users on your computer;
> * you are not bothered by crackers gaining root privileges and
> taking control of your computer.
>
> You must NOT install this packages if:
>
> * you wish to let arbitrary people use your computer;
> * you suspect that people could use the network (including
> dial-up connections such as PPP) to break into your computer
> and get an account on it.
>
> In general, a security conscious administrator will NOT install a
> setuid-root program unless it is absolutely necessary.
>
> Do you still wish to install this package [yes/NO]:
>
> This formulation says with as little jargon as possible what the problem
> with the package is, and why it is a problem. It also gives some rules
> of thumb to the less initiated to determine whether they should install
> the package.
>
> It also says what a more knowledgeable person might do, and it uses
> a secure default. Both good ideas from the previous poster, Lamont
> Granquist.
>
> I admit "account" is interpreted loosely, but you get the idea.
>
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From: mist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: My Windows is dead...and I need it!!
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 20:58:27 +0100
Reply-To: mist <new$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Steven K.I <"The Phat Impala SS CreW"@san.rr.com> scribed to us that -
>I have Windows 98 on a 10 gig and RedHat 6.0 with KDE on a 4.3 gig.
>I decided to put LILO on the MBR where Win98 is installed but when
>I decided to test Windows out I wasn't able to load Windows...somehow
>Linux must of "destroyed" Windows 98. Any ideas on how to get Win98 back?
>I have re-installed Linux and KDE, but Win98 still refuses to load.
>Command.com is apparently "missing" even though I boot with a dos boot disk
>and it is still there.
>(Luckily, I have this laptop to work with. :)
>
>
Use the dos boot disk to get a prompt and type
FDISK /MBR
from it. Assuming you have a working FDISK on the dos bootdisk then
that should fix your win98 MBR and let you boot windows again. You
can't use LILO on the MBR of a fat32 disk.
--
Mist.
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From: Bjarne Nygaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: dummy device for SuSE 6.1
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 22:21:56 +0200
TH wrote:
> Hi Jens,
> When trying to edit the rc.config, the comment for the dummy option
> mentions that it's best to set the dummy option to "yes" when accessing
> the Net thru PPP. What's your view on this?
I am obviously not Jens, but I might be able to answer :-)
A short time ago I read that Netscape in some setups works better
if the dummy is setup. IIRC that is when Netscape runs on a machine
connected via another one to the Internet. (That is the way I am running
But I have not figured out the implications for my self yet)
>
>
> If indeed "yes", what other settings need to be done so that the dummy
> option can be turned on in the kernel and I could still dial up?
>
> TH
Bjarne
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From: Frank Sweetser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why MS anti-linux group won't work (long)
Date: 23 May 1999 16:01:50 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne) writes:
> This has been the case in the context where users were previously UNIX
> users, and knew at least enough C to fiddle with Makefiles to get things to
> run and be installed.
>
> As the "community" grows, it is not clear that that self-reliance will
> continue, or whether there is a "core group" that will represent a
> diminishing proportion of the population.
there is probably where the biggest money in the open source world can be
made - if someone can manage to provide effective tech support affordable
by joe schmoe user who just can't get his video card or modem to work
right.
> Assuming a constant set of "competent core people" requires assuming that if
> a million new users get added that they're effectively "witless cattle" that
> can *never* learn *anything;* that's certainly not entirely true, but I
> suspect that there may be some truth to it.
s/can never learn anything/refuse to ever learn everything, usually out of
fear - the same kind of mentality that prevents some people from mastering
the black art of things like changing a car tire/
--
Frank Sweetser rasmusin at wpi.edu fsweetser at blee.net | PGP key available
paramount.ind.wpi.edu RedHat 5.2 kernel 2.2.5 i586 | at public servers
> A 386sx16 with 3M of ram is noticeable slower than a PPro200 with 256MB of
> ram
Film at 11.
Linus
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Xiaohong Wang)
Subject: Problem install window 95 after uninstall window 98 and linux
Date: 23 May 1999 20:27:36 GMT
Hi,
I had a computer which was partitioned and
installedi with both window 98 and linux. For some
unknown reason, my computer CD (music ACE)
didn't play well under window 98. I tried
to uninstall window 98 and install window 95.
Since the whole system is partioned for both
window and linux, after I uninstalled
window 98, I messed up the whole system. I
cann't boot to the linux part. Now I only want
to install window 95. I don't need linux at this
moment. But I couldn't install the window 95.
When I tried to install it, the system tried to
open some files in D drive which is specified in
config.sys file. I tried to reformat the C drive
and still couldn't install window 95. I guess the
problem is caused by some config files changed by
linux and still dangling around somewhere.
Because the installation of window 95 failed, I
tried to install window 3.1 which doesn't require
CD-ROM, but after the installation, C driver is
not accessible. But if I use window 95 startup
disk through A driver, I still can access C
driver, but the installation through
CD-ROM still fails.
Is there anybody know what is the problem,
which several config files I should change or
recover? Is there any C driver files need to
be reinstalled?
I am so frustrated for the installation. Your help
is greatly appreciated. Thank you very much in
advance!
Wendy
Problem install window 95 after deinstall window 98 and linux
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (albi)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Ishmail no longer being developed - source code available
Date: 23 May 1999 20:50:01 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
anno Sun, 23 May 1999 12:11:44 -0400, schreef Sylvain Lapierre
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> :
hello,
>> >BTW, Ishmail is still available for download and HAL software say they
>> >will give a free licence to those who ask for it.
>>
>> I did download it, and asked for a free license about 2 days ago,
>> how much longer should I wait for a free license ??
>
>Please, wich url ?
www.ishmail.com
(I still haven't received a free license :-(
-- greetings, Albert --
* Avoid the Gates of Hell. Use Linux! (Unknown source)
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From: "Ben Goble, Lakewood Colorado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Install woes, help please
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 14:27:53 -0600
There are some suggestions you might try at
http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/
Tom Otake wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm not new to Linux but am stumped and need some help. I just upgraded
> to RH6.0, or at least tried to. The upgrade failed with a Sig 11.
> Anyway, system did come up in a hybrid state, duplicate packages, both
> old and new versions, etc. So, I decided to reinstall using RH6.0.
> Yes, stupid thing to do but at least I have backed up all the
> essentials. Anyway, I tried to install RH6.0 from scratch and it failed
> with Sig 11. I thought, maybe there is a problem with 6.0 so I tried to
> install 5.2 and the same, failed with SIG 11. Now I can't boot into
> linux at all. I'm stumped since I didn't have any problems with the
> system at all prior to the upgrade. I compiled kernels fine without Sig
> 11 problems. Does anyone have any clue as to what might b causing the
> problem?
--
Ben Goble Lakewood, Colorado USA
bgoble at uswest dot net bgoble at nyx dot net bgoble at chisp dot net
A Stranger and a Pilgrim on the Earth
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From: nospam@nospam!.kom (Steve Nospam)
Subject: Re: kppp can't resolve addresses (newbie q)
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 20:44:38 GMT
On Sun, 23 May 1999 11:42:51 -0700, Vic Rosenthal
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm trying to access the net with Caldera Open Linux 5.2. I have set up kppp to
>call and log in to my isp (I can do it either as 'script-based' or PAP). This
>appears to succeed. I have entered the dns addresses provided by my isp into
>the kppp setup, but when I try to ping anything other than localhost, ping just
>hangs.
If you actually mean COL2.2 instead of 5.2, then if you used a theme
to set up your desktop, I suggest that you create a new account and
don't use any themes. That was the only way I could get Kppp to work
reliably. Another option is to update to KDE v. 1.1.1 which also
seemed to work quite a bit better than v.1.1. However, I found COL2.2
to be completely unreliable and swapped it for SuSE 6.1 which is
vastly superior in stability IMO.
-Steve
*The only thing certain about the future is that it hasn't happened yet.*
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From: Joseph White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: "tcp/:7100" Not available ???
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 20:42:13 +0000
Hi All,
I'm trying to get xfstt font server working on my Redhat 5.1
system. I'm using Accelerated-X 4.1.2 and in there
instructions there web site (see below) they say to add
"tcp/:7100" to the [FontPath] section of the Xaccel.ini
file. Then run xfstt --sync and then start it with xfstt&.
My problem is when I start the xfstt server it reports "Port
7100 not available please select another Port".
Any idea what it is referring to? Or what what other port
number I could use.
Thanks
============================================================
http://www.xig.com/Pages/FAQsSupportTType.html
Change to superuser
Create the directory /usr/ttfonts
Copy all required Truetype fonts into /usr/ttfonts. Note
that if you have access
to a Win9x partition, you can copy ALL of the files from
the /windows/fonts
directory into /usr/ttfonts
Extract the contents of the compressed file and compile the
binary using make and
then make install
Add the following two lines to the end of
/etc/rc.d/rc.local
/usr/X11R6/bin/xfstt --sync
/usr/X11R6/bin/xfstt&
NOTE: remember to add the ampersand (&) to the end of the
second line, as
failing to do this will prevent Linux from starting.
Edit the configuration file /etc/Xaccel.ini and change the
semi-colon (;) on
the last line of the FontPath section to a comma (,). Add
the following line to the
end of this section:
"tcp/:7100";
You can either reboot the Linux box to start the new daemon
or perform the
following steps.
Run the following commands as superuser:
/usr/X11R6/bin/xfstt --sync
/usr/X11R6/bin/xfstt&
Restart X Windows as usual
Open a terminal and type xset ftp+ tcp/:7100
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From: "bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: freezing up?
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 13:38:11 -0700
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I had what seems to be the same thing about 10 months ago. Turned out =
the CPU was going to sleep and wouldn't wake up by touching any key. =
Turned off sleep and power mgmt in bios and no problem since.
Don't know if this is the same as yours.
cheers...bob
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xterm everything is ok.
I'm running RH 5.2 with an Ensonic pci sound, digiboard, ne2000 comp. =
ethernet and s3 video. (no wallpaper or screen savers)
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From: Mark Forsyth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Root Password lost...
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 13:04:55 +1000
NF Stevens wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Veach) wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> >Is it just me, or is it realy this easy to break into a linux machine
> >and take over as root?
>
> It depends on how you have your machine set up. On mine using
No it DOESN'T. If you have complete physical access to the machine
security
IS compromised. Excepting things like encrypted disks. I don't give a
rats
what sort of boot hinderances you provide. Give me a system and I'll
read what's
on the disks therein..!
Mark F...
> the linux single option in lilo brings up sulogin which requires
> the root password before going into single user mode.
>
> The relevent lines in /etc/inittab for controlling single mode
> on my (SuSE 5.2) system are
>
> # what to do in single-user mode
> ls:S:wait:/sbin/init.d/rc S
> ~~:S:respawn:/sbin/sulogin
>
> Norman
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From: Itay Kishon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.network
Subject: more DHCP problems
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 23:18:00 +0300
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi !
I'm a cable modem user, and after having problems configuring my dhcp
client in RH5.2 (it just didn't get an IP), I've decided to upgrade to
6.0.
After doing so (following ONLY RedHat's setup), the dhcp client does get
me an IP (and a subnet mask), but not a gateway address, which is part
of the dhcp data (and as a result, I don't get my dns-name as well).
I did configure my DNS address, knowing the the linux's current
implementation for dhcp doesn't aquire that information from the dhcp
server (or am I wrong ?). So my question is - what am I missing ? What
else should I configure ?
P.S. - In RH5.2 installation, there was the supp' disk image (in
/images/supp.img). In RH6.0, it's not there, but the installation does
require it. Have I d/l RH from a bad FTP site ? Where can I find that
file ?
10xs in advance,
Itay Kishon.
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From: Frank C Bogle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: What is possible using PPP?
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 22:51:05 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear Friends,
I am involved in IS Security and I am wondering what is possible
using PPP. I am running Redhat 5.2 and am connected to my ISP from home
using PPP which is enabled from the netcfg facility. I would like to be
able to monitor protocol access to and from the CyberGuard firewall I am
responsibe for. At the moment using the sniffit protocol sniffer I can
only see the results of my own IP address querying the firewall. Is
there a way of monitoring other traffic (other than TCP back to myself,
after say I hace executed a Telnet command from my own workstation)
at the firewall? I guess what I am saying
is, is there a way of remotely looking at other TCP handshaking SYN,
ACK, SYN from other net users and the company firewall?
Kind Regards
Frank
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hans Wolters)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Ishmail no longer being developed - source code available
Date: 23 May 1999 22:00:08 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
albi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> found a keyboard
and wrote the following ....
>www.ishmail.com
>
>(I still haven't received a free license :-(
I got the license today,..... and it still isn't working. It's resting in a
small corner somewhere on my system until I can find the time. In the
meantime I still enjoy xfmail :)
Hans
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