Linux-Misc Digest #325, Volume #20 Mon, 24 May 99 03:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Dyslexic Radio Buttons ("Elyse M. Grasso")
Postgresql6.4.2 for RH5.2 (Danny Aldham)
Re: netscape + java ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
linux 3d gaming initiative ("Linux3D")
Re: RH 6, sndconfig, sound balster 16 PnP ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Linux: 750 million users by 2004? (Gilles Pelletier)
Number Lock at start up (Mike Rego)
Re: Netscape locks up when I first start it up (Paul Harris)
networking applications in commercial radio (Tim Ellerbee)
Re: Postgresql6.4.2 for RH5.2 (Perry Pip)
End of Problems SO x RedHat 6.0 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Operating System Vs. Applications? (Abstract Milieu) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Dyslexic Radio Buttons (Jeremiah)
Re: New Star office for glibc 2.1 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How to make a crontab that will make an empty file (Mark Schlegel)
Re: Alternative to OSS for Sound Blaster PCI128? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Will a SupraExpress 56i modem run under linux? ("Ozzy")
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From: "Elyse M. Grasso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Dyslexic Radio Buttons
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 22:26:03 -0600
I have a brain glitch related to reflectional symmetries across
horizontal (mostly) and vertical (rarely) axes. In text it is mostly an
output problem because on input I can use context clues to tell p from b
and d from q. On output, I can spell aloud (correctly) and say 'p' while
my hand writes or types 'b' or vice versa, which is spooky.
But radio buttons' states can't be determined from context...
Is there an existing Linux GUI variant that does NOT implement radio
buttons as diamond shapes that reflect across their horizontal axis to
indicate on/off transitions? I'm currently using RH 5.2 with default
settings. I checked the Gnome web site and their screenshots weren't
encouraging, but it wasn't clear whether their buttons change the color
of the button center as well as swapping the "3-d" shading.
I'd hate to learn to hack X window widgets if there's already a package
out there with radio buttons my brain can parse. I've got too much else
to do.
Thanks
Elyse Grasso
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Danny Aldham)
Subject: Postgresql6.4.2 for RH5.2
Date: 24 May 1999 03:49:20 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]
I am looking for Postgresql6.4.2 for Redhat5.2, preferably a .rpm file.
Or, I am looking for help/pointers to fix a Postgresql6.4.2 startup
error of:
# ./S85postgresql start
Starting postgresql service: IpcMemoryCreate: shmget failed (Invalid argument)
key=5432001, size=831176, permission=600
FATAL 1: ShmemCreate: cannot create region
postmaster []
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: netscape + java
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 05:00:16 GMT
I've been having these problem on a variety of 5.2 systems (with various
netscapes -- one works and I can't figure out why).
The solution to use
:unscaled
as a font path parameter doesn't seem to work...
(and the standard redhat config files don't use it).
I didn't have a problem when I used redhat 5.1...
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Daniel Kollar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Since Redhat-6.0 Netscape crashes with a bus error when it tries to
> start a java applet. This happens with the shipped version 4.51, but
> also with the version 4.08 which worked without problems on my
> redhat-5.2 system.
>
> Does anyone know the problem?
>
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From: "Linux3D" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: linux 3d gaming initiative
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 23:36:49 -0400
Hi! I would like you to read this announcement we sent out to websites
around the internet. If you think that you can contribute to our project,
please send me an email and tell me about yourself, etc...
" Ladies, Gentlemen, otherworldly beings,
Please allow me to briefly introduce The Linux 3D Gaming Initiative
http://www.linux3d.net, a pro-bono community resource project initiated by
Full On 3D http://www.fullon3d.com. Open to and depending on contributors
from all sorts of hardware and gaming websites, we are asking for you to
consider supporting this initiative and contribute information that will
help the audience to find a way into Linux, Linux gaming and builds leverage
against the inertia of the industry to produce original Linux games, Linux
ports of recent games and drivers for new hardware out of the box. Unless
you genuinely love Windows - which we respect, although we won't let you
date our offspring - these should be things close to your hearts as well and
beyond the reproach of jealousy or petty monetary consideration.We would
like to ask you for recurring coverage about the project, contributions in
the form of informations, faqs etc and to check our "Supporters" page
http://www.linux3d.net/sources/supporters/ ) to see how you can actively
involve your website in promoting the cause of Linux gaming and get free
placement of your site's advertising banner on Linux3D.net, which will be
our way to say thank you for your support.
We also ask that you please advertise our staff needs or volunteer yourself
to fill necessary spots, as there are these topics to cover:
* Linux gurus of many shades, especially XServer and OpenGL
* networking under Linux ( LAN setup, internet, etc... )
* 3D theory and application* Graphic artist(s)
* News hunters/updaters - this is a daily work, little HTML knowledge is
needed "
Kornel
webmaster
http://www.linux3d.net
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Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 20:31:14 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: RH 6, sndconfig, sound balster 16 PnP
If you could post it I would really apprecaite it. Do you have the same card?
Thanks for the help
Dan Finn
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Silviu D Minut wrote:
> You don't need the sndconfig if you have the correct isapnp.conf file,
> right? Just isapnptools.
> If you don't, I can send you mine. I can't post it right now because I'm at
> school, and I have it at home. Let me know.
>
> Silviu Mint
>
> Dan Finn wrote:
>
> > I recently installed RedHat 6.0. I have a sound blaster 16 PnP. I was
> > able to get this sound card to work with RedHat 5.2 using sndconfig so I
> > was hoping that RH6 would work fine. When I ran sndconfig it detected
> > the card as the right card, it then told me it was going to re-write a
> > couple of files, it then complains about certain lines in the
> > /etc/isapnp.conf file and not knowing what to do with a certain line. I
> > tried it multiple times and even tried it with a different card and the
> > same exact thing happened (it also detected that card fine). I tried to
> > install the isapnptools and sndconfig packages off my RH 5.2 cd and
> > sndconfig complained that it needed two library files that I didn't
> > have. Any help would be really appreciated,
> > Thanks
> > Dan Finn
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gilles Pelletier)
Subject: Linux: 750 million users by 2004?
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 04:56:02 GMT
Linux: 750 million users by 2004?
"I Want to Live in a World Where Software Doesn't Stink"
In a Q&A, Linux evangelist Eric Raymond talks about unseating
Microsoft as the OS of choice. (Businessweek)
(...)
Q: Five years from now, how many people will be using Linux?
A: If we continue to grow our user rate at the level we've been doing
now, [Raymond writes an arithmetic formula to determine this] we'd get
six doubling periods, which means just shy of a billion people, 860
million in fact. I'm not expecting it to be quite that high because
trends like this tend to show logistic growth rather than exponential,
and it's not clear what the threshold is. I'd say somewhere near 750
million would be a good conservative estimate.
Q: A conservative estimate? Isn't Microsoft still thriving on selling
software? How can Linux survive giving away its own?
Something must be made clear here. Microsoft is selling software,
we're selling service. Let me give you an exemple. While working at
the prompt, whereas Windows asks before overwriting a file, Linux just
sends it to limbo. Though nowadays people rarely work at the prompt,
on some occasions, they have to. After loosing a few files this way,
they call support. We provide a little shell script and they're back
to heaven. Expect to see Linux prices skyrocketing in the next few
years.
(...)
Well, who am I to contradict such an "evangelist"? But I'd lay a bet:
if there ever is 750 million Linux users in 5 years from now, 90% of
them will still be booting Windows by default. Lilo's end isn't near.
Do read the whole story:
http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/apr1999/nf90427c.htm
GP
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From: Mike Rego <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Number Lock at start up
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 02:14:48 GMT
How can I get the number lock to be on at the start up of my Linux
RedHat 5.2?
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Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 22:55:43 +0000
From: Paul Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape locks up when I first start it up
This occurs when ever I start up netscape, if the connection id there right away or
not.
as root I have my home location set at /. I don't think it would be doing a
lookup, but
it may be.
thanks
Frank Hahn wrote:
> On Fri, 21 May 1999 22:21:44 +0000, Paul Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >When I first start up netscape it locks up for about 3 minutes.
> >Then it works normally. This first happened on redhat 5.2.
> >Older versions of netscape work good from the start until I
> >launch the mail program. It does it to netscape 4.XX (up to version
> >4.6)
> >I run enlightenmnet window manager ( it does the same thing under
> >FVWM2). I have a Matrox G200 8MB card.
> >I anybody else has seen this or knows of a fix please let me know.
> >
> I don't know of a fix but I'm guessing it is doing a DNS
> lookup.
>
> Is your link up to your ISP when you start Netscape? If
> not, get the link up first and then start Netscape and see
> what happens.
>
> --
> Frank Hahn
>
> Entropy isn't what it used to be.
--
"An infinite number of monkies pounding on typewriters could turn out
Shakespeare. Microsoft? Sixteen monkeys sharing a fountain pen and a
case of beer. Take away the pen and you've got ZDNet."
--Anonymously posted on http://slashdot.org
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Ellerbee)
Crossposted-To:
alt.radio,alt.unix,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.sys.novell,comp.unix,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: networking applications in commercial radio
Date: 23 May 1999 22:56:04 -0500
Currently, the radio station combo I work for is using incredibly outdated
hardware and lame software. To wit, the PCs being used are circa 1984 and are
not even Y2K compliant. The software being used is Broadcast Electronics
Audio Vault. The inherent problems in thios setup is the lack of
expandability due to the excessive cost of proprietary interface cards. Sure
the system is running on $300 PCs but the comouter is simply used as storage
and I/O between the main server in the production studio and the user
terminals in the three broadcast studios. The crux of the functionality of
the system lies in the $3000+ interface cards that each terminal needs to
interact with the rest of the system. Is there any way to effectively and
efficiently overhaul the system and expand the system and maintain
expandability in the future. I am aware that there are networking solutions
out there such as Novell Netware that will allow networking of Windows systems
from a Unix server. But how costly would something like that be to set up
with no more than ten users?
I'm just getting into the questioning stage at this point. Any help would be
appreciated.
Tim Ellerbee
Director of Continuity and Production
Citadel Broadcasting, State College, Pa
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Perry Pip)
Subject: Re: Postgresql6.4.2 for RH5.2
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 05:22:42 GMT
On 24 May 1999 03:49:20 GMT, Danny Aldham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]
>
>I am looking for Postgresql6.4.2 for Redhat5.2, preferably a .rpm file.
Get the source RPM for Postgres from the Redhat 6.0 FTP site and compile
it. Then it should it work on 5.2
Perry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: End of Problems SO x RedHat 6.0
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 05:54:58 GMT
Hello EveryBody !
I'm following the messages aboute people having problems trying run
StarOffice in RedHat 6. I saw the solution that make SO works using the
glibc that cames with it (using a shell-script to replace all the
ocurrences of glibXXXX by glibYYYYY, and another things like that). I
used it and, after some work, SO works. But yesterday I read in DejaNews
about one case that one guy download the NEW version of StarOffice
(version 5.1) and, in spite of it show the same message (you don't have
glibXXXX installed, do you want to proceed ?) when he tryed to install,
he answer yes and EVERYTHING THING WORKS FINE, INCLUDING PRINTING !!! At
first moment I don't believe, but in the end of history I decide take a
shot. Well, for me EVERYTHING WORKS FINE TOO. So, if anybody decide to
try, a think that may be a good idea (if it works for me and for another
one, maybe works to you to...).
If works to you or not, please post a message attached to this message
said that works or not, so, by this way we don't overload the ftp
servers and don't spent our time for nothing.
Claudio Cuqui
Computer Scientist
University of Sao Paulo
Sao Paulo - Brazil
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Operating System Vs. Applications? (Abstract Milieu)
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 06:03:49 GMT
We live in times when all show much concern about HOW computing works
and disregard WHAT we intended to get of computing. In reality any
operating system: both Windows and Linux are mammoth to work with. It is
not matter what operating system do: it could seize many functions, it
could leave bulk of them for your discretion. It is necessary to
reexamine what is operating system at all.
In general, operating system could be considered as intellectual space
for working with data, code, information, and definitions. And if it
isn't it is time to make it such one. If it does not reach you let's
look at Internet. Who knows what operating system installed at a server
you are browsing to? What commands are included in a protocol you are
working with? How you get information? From a script? What a language or
a database used for it? You ignore it. It is the way. So, let's make the
next step: all this MUST be applied regarding a single computer.
Where are we going to? Distributed, ubiquitous, comprehensible,
collaborative environment - abstract milieu. Information space from your
computer throughout entire world back to your computer. If you are
afraid of then let's this space expands over only your computer. Really,
it does not matter. Of course, such a scheme does not exclude operating
system at all. It is indispensable layer between hardware and software
as well abstract milieu is necessary layer between software and wetware.
But operating system must go unconscious for most of us and lessen our
dependence of it. Finally, we should have got a situation when you could
work at any computer with any operating system without even suspecting
what you are working with. It is worthy to obtain, isn't?
Think about specific situation: you are going to have got information of
a book. In such abstract milieu you will have got it in uniform
appearing. At the same time you ignore how you get information:
- an application (console, GUI, CGI);
- a file (txt, html, xml);
- a script (Java, C++, Perl);
- a link (http, ftp, reference in database);
- a record (Oracle, Informix, Sybase);
- an archive (zip, gz, arj);
- a message (email, icq, chat).
At last, if you doubt in attainability of such prospects get know a
specification of a language which could manage this emerging area:
http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Facility/2320/ua/
Sincerely yours,
Yuriy Guskov.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeremiah)
Subject: Re: Dyslexic Radio Buttons
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 05:30:46 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Elyse M. Grasso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake thusly:
> Is there an existing Linux GUI variant that does NOT implement radio
> buttons as diamond shapes that reflect across their horizontal axis to
> indicate on/off transitions? I'm currently using RH 5.2 with default
> settings. I checked the Gnome web site and their screenshots weren't
> encouraging, but it wasn't clear whether their buttons change the color
> of the button center as well as swapping the "3-d" shading.
It depends upon the gtk theme that you've chosen... check
out gtk.themes.org for some screenshots. In particular, the themes
BlueTheme, AfterGlow, Blackness, Marble, Marble3D, Metal, Odo, Pixmap,
Redmond95, SatinBlack, and Tildouf (at least) should be what you're
looking for.
Of course, this only works for applications that use the gtk
widget set (and are updated to use gtk 1.2), but at least it's a start.
Brian
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New Star office for glibc 2.1
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 05:58:06 GMT
In article <7i301c$m29$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I *have* heard (on Slashdot) of people running it on RH6 with
success,
> > however.
>
> I just installed Star Office 5.1 on RH 6.0. It runs fine "out of the
box."
> No special tweaks are needed.
>
> --
> Ron Olsen
> Boulder Colorado
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Yup! I'm running it right now. No problems at all for two days of use.
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From: Mark Schlegel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to make a crontab that will make an empty file
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 01:04:02 -0400
Another way that might be better because it seems he's using
the same file over and over is:
cp /dev/null /etc/nologin.ttyS0
which will make nologin.ttyS0 a null file even if it already exists
as a non-null file. Touch would only update the timestamp
if the file was there already and != 0 bytes. This saves you
deleting the file then doing touch.
Mark
Justin B Willoughby wrote:
>
> mike murray ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> > I use Redhat 5.1 and want to login to my home machine at certain times
> > only with mgetty.
> > I would like to know how the command line would read in a crontab to:
> >
> > create the file /etc/nologin.ttyS0 at specific times and remove
> > the file
> > at the times that I wish to login.
> >
> > I do understand the time part, but do not know how to create the (new)
> > file
> > in the command line.
>
> You can use the touch command to create a null file.
>
> ~$ touch /etc/nologin.ttyS0
>
> Will create this (null) file for you.
>
> - Justin
> --
> _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ RULES!!!!!!! * LINUX RULES *
> _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ Justin Willoughby
> _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ http://www.nmc.edu/~willouj/
> _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ ------ Jesus Is Lord ------
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Alternative to OSS for Sound Blaster PCI128?
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 06:06:49 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Micheal MacCana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OSS is the Open Sound System
> It's a commercial but easy way to get sound working on Linux
> The free version nags every twenty minutes, but it works with
> all kinds of cards.
What exactly do you mean by "nags"? Could you clarify that up?
I'm having a strange problem. Well, the problem is that the stereo
separation gets garbled up and sound drift from left to right and vice
versa according to the frequency.
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From: "Ozzy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Will a SupraExpress 56i modem run under linux?
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 05:37:02 GMT
Anybody running this modem under linux?
successfully?
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