Linux-Misc Digest #327, Volume #20 Mon, 24 May 99 07:13:07 EDT
Contents:
FREE TRIP TO ANTARCTICA - BEWARE! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Compatibility of Linux with K6-2 350Mhz on asus motherboard ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux or linux? (Jason Stokes)
Linux Internet Links ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Linux Books ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Java 1.2 on Mandrake 5.3 ("Sigurd Friisvold")
Re: Linux's Last Chance (Gareth Owen)
Shell problem?? (David Usherwood)
Re: Q: performance of RC5 client on Sparc (Mark Tranchant)
Re: RH6, Gnome & RealPlayer not quite right ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Target specific variables with make (Brian Lane)
Re: NT the best web platform? (Thomas Parsli)
Re: Linux or linux? (jane chav)
Cannot compile kernel in RH 6 ("Jim Orfanakos")
Re: SETI comparisons (Fred Kuipers)
Re: Linux on Dual Pentium-II machines (Gary Wolfe)
Q: performance of RC5 client on Sparc ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: FREE TRIP TO ANTARCTICA - BEWARE! (Mark Tranchant)
Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (Chris Wilson)
Re: Shell problem?? (Mark Tranchant)
Re: Adding fonts to Wordperfect 8 (Mark Tranchant)
Re: WORDS OF WISDOM!! Upgrading RedHat 5.1 to 2.2.X Kernel (John Thompson)
Re: Need help setting up system. (John Thompson)
Re: Commercially speaking....? (Jamie)
Re: Cannot compile kernel in RH 6 (Mark Tranchant)
Re: My Windows is dead...and I need it!! (mist)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FREE TRIP TO ANTARCTICA - BEWARE!
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 07:09:13 GMT
Watch out for this company - Magic Software (http://www.magic-sw.com)!
They're giving away a trip to Antarctica to the developer of the "best"
ecommerce app with their development tool (which they're giving away
free, too).
BUT DON'T BE TEMPTED!
Their tool doesn't even RUN on Linux - it only deploys on Linux. You
have to develop on WINDOWS!!
OK, the prize is amazing - but in the name of open source, don't do it!
Paul Revere
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Compatibility of Linux with K6-2 350Mhz on asus motherboard
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 05:13:25 GMT
Hi,
I ordered for the following hardware configuration:
K6-2, 350 MHz
Asus P5A Motherboard
Yamaha PCI sound card
128 MB RAM
IBM IDE Hard Disk 10.1 GB, 7200 RPM
I anticipate that I will need to run the following OS
sometime or the other:
- Windows NT server
- Windows NT workstation
- Windows 98
- Linux (Redhat 5.2/6.0)
I want to know if there are no compatibility issues with this hardware.
Thanks,
Sandeep
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Stokes)
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux
Subject: Re: Linux or linux?
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 09:14:44 GMT
Confirming the existence of the legendary third female Linux geek, On Mon,
24 May 1999 18:22:58 +1000, jane chav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Both the kernel and the utilities are required to run any user programs
>> therefore they are considered an OS when combined.
>>
>> GNU/Linux is used to indicate that it is a GNU system running with a Linux
>> kernel.
>
>Sorry, I made a mistake on the GNU part. but what is the definition of
>utilities? I interprete it as a tool to accomplish something, e.g.
>emacs. I might be wrong on that one too. but I thought user programs
>make use of C library functions.
"Utility" is a very vague term, like "operating system" itself. The Linux
kernel, for example, is only part of the story -- a lot of Linux's
"Unix-like" behavior is down to glibc and other shared libraries.
>Do you mean since GNU GCC is a utility and without this compiler, there
>will be no other programs?
That's not the argument. The argument is only that GNU libraries, utilities
etc. compose such a large proportion of the Linux "platform" (as opposed to
the Linux *kernel*) that we should give credit where credit is due. FSF
favours a particular nomenclature for GNU-based systems -- GNU first,
operating system "kernel" last. For example, you could port glibc over to
solaris (I believe this has actually been done) and end up with a
GNU/Solaris system.
--
Jason Stokes: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux Internet Links
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 09:11:15 GMT
Hi there,
Does anybody know any decent Linux Internet links?
Cheers
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux Books
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 09:08:32 GMT
Hi there,
I wonder if anybody knows any simple introductory books on Basic Linux
OS Administration.
Cheers.
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From: "Sigurd Friisvold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Java 1.2 on Mandrake 5.3
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 11:20:28 +0200
I have installed Java 1.2 on Mandrake Linux 5.3, but seem to be unable to
develop graphical applications (it works for non graphical appications
though). When I try to run the .class-file I get this error:
Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError:
/home/sfr/jdk1.2/jre/lib/i386/libfontmanager.so libstdc++-libc6.0-1.so.2:
cannot opepn shared object file ..........
I tried to install the glibc library that came with Mandrake, but it didn't
help. What can I do to get Java 1.2 running?
Thanks!
Sigurd Friisvold
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From: Gareth Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux's Last Chance
Date: 24 May 1999 10:35:43 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl) writes:
> >
> >And as an encore - how many Usenet posters does it take to change a
> >light-bulb...? ;)
>
> We do not use light bulbs. Our genius shines on itself.
To be honest though, when it comes to the provision of light, even Linux
users prefer Windows.
--
Gareth Owen
http://www.ma.man.ac.uk/~gowen/lisp/
Elect Monica As Clintons Successor
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Usherwood)
Subject: Shell problem??
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 07:39:12 GMT
I am running SUSE 5.2 on a K6. I was trying to install Oracle8, and the
install script (which had run OK on another box), errored with
/orainst.cm: No such file or directory
when orainst.cm was there, and the path included ',' .
Then I tried to start mysql, which used to work fine, and it gave
root: command not found
I am beginning to think I have a problem with bash (which, aliased to /bin/sh,
is the shell used in both these scripts).
Can anybody suggest what might be happening here?
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From: Mark Tranchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: Q: performance of RC5 client on Sparc
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 10:29:49 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Argh! DO NOT use BogoMIPS as a performance indicator!!! Go and read the
BogoMIPS-HOWTO - my 486DX4/120 (59.80 BogoMIPS) beats your P133 if you
use it as a performance measure.
If you are still surprised at the results, then any of your suggestions
are possibilities. Try other benchmarks that test integer and
floating-point operations, and compare. Find out the RC5 client's
dominant type of operation (int or float), and compare the benchmarks
for that operation.
Mark.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I have both a P133 running Linux (48 MB RAM, kernel 2.0.36) and a
> Sparcstation running Linux (an Axil 245, Microsparc II at 110 MHz, 64 MB RAM,
> kernel 2.0.35), and both are running the distributed.net RC5DES cracking
> client. Unfortunately, I'm not seeing the performance I was expecting out
> of the Sparcstation.
>
> On the PC:
> alderamin:~>uname -a ; dmesg | grep ogo
> Linux alderamin 2.0.36 #1 Tue May 11 18:06:05 MST 1999 i586 unknown
> Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 53.04 BogoMIPS
>
> On the Sparcstation:
> menkent:~>uname -a; dmesg | grep ogo
> Linux menkent 2.0.35 #1 Wed Oct 14 10:16:12 EDT 1998 sparc unknown
> Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 109.77 BogoMIPS
>
> As you can see, the Sparc appears to be whomping all over the PC!
> But when I run the RC5DES client on both machines, I get some unexpected
> results.
>
> Typical block on the PC:
> [May 24 00:28:33 GMT] Completed RC5 block 9D1FD371:30000000 (2147483648 keys)
> [May 24 00:28:33 GMT] 0.03:19:59.82 - [178,959.52 keys/sec]
>
> Typical block on the Sparcstation:
> [May 24 03:52:36 UTC] Completed one RC5 packet 9D1667F6:60000000 (1*2^28 keys)
> 0.00:46:47.57 - [95,611.28 keys/sec]
>
> Only half the keys/sec on a machine that scores twice the BogoMIPs?
> What's wrong here? Is it a weakness of Linux on Sparc? Is the Sparc/Linux
> RC5DES client poorly written or compiled? Or have I failed to configure the
> client properly? Any suggestions are welcome...
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RH6, Gnome & RealPlayer not quite right
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 07:35:03 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Michael J. Saletnik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So I put RH6 on a clean partition, having decided to blow away my 5.1
> instead of upgrading. After the install, I have a very nice system;
> however, I have a few issues that I need a little help with:
>
> *) RealPlayer 5, Linux ELF version (which I use because the
> rpm version for RH doesn't include NS plugin support), does not
work,
> failing on write() to /dev/dsp. All my other sound programs (sox,
> xemacs, etc) work fine. Thoughts?
>
> *) When I enable sounds in Gnome and/or Enlightenment, they seem to
> lock the sound driver so that no other program can play sounds?
>
> *) Gnome does not seem completely there ... I don't have an actual
> "desktop," though I do have the panel. I also don't seem to have
> the thing they call the "file manager." Any suggestions (other
> than to verify all my gnome rpm's, which I'll try right now) ?
>
> Thanks, and please cc: replies via email...
>
> Michael
>
Have the same problem.
When I run 'fuser /dev/dsp', RH6.0 answers the process # of a program
named 'esd'.
I suspect esd taking exclusive control of /dev/dsp.
I'l try to disable sounds in Gnome, and tell you the result.
HH.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Lane)
Subject: Re: Target specific variables with make
Date: 24 May 1999 06:40:35 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 24 May 1999 03:41:01 GMT, Brian Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm having trouble getting target specific variables to work with make,
>I'm trying to use the following in my makefile:
>
>solaris: CFLAGS += -DSOLARIS
>solaris: $(OBJ) $(HDRS)
> $(CC) $(OBJS) -o digitemp.solaris $(LIBS)
> cp digitemp.solaris digitemp
>
And now to answer my own question <G>. This is a feature added in make
v3.77, and since I'm running v3.75 it won't work (no suprise there).
Off to do some compiling.
Brian
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Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT the best web platform?
From: Thomas Parsli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 23 May 1999 21:43:54 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne) writes:
> On Sun, 23 May 1999 17:38:38 GMT, Anthony Ord
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
> >On 22 May 1999 20:50:09 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >(Christopher Browne) wrote:
> >
> >>On Sat, 22 May 1999 19:42:17 GMT, Anthony Ord
> >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>I just bunged Squid as a front-end to Apache (one of the
> >>>options) and everything goes swimmingly.
> >>>
> >>>I made it so it just caches dynamic content though.
> >>
> >>Wouldn't you want it to cache static content too?
> >
> >Why? Apache and Squid (sounds like a duo on a Saturday
> >morning cartoon...) reside on the same machine. Are you
> >telling me Squid can hoover a duplicate file up off the disk
> >faster than Apache?
>
> I suppose not.
Why not?
(http://www.acme.com/software/thttpd/benchmarks.html)
Who said Apache was _fast_?
Thomas
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From: jane chav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux
Subject: Re: Linux or linux?
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 18:22:58 +1000
D. Vrabel wrote:
>
> On Sat, 22 May 1999, jane chav wrote:
>
> > eloki wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Ah, so you'd say that there's lots of users running Symantec/Windows or
> > > who used to be running Quarterdeck/Windows? I like the GNU utils and all,
> > > and I'm not saying that "Linux" as a whole system could do without binutils,
> > > fileutils etc. But it's just not warranted as a name. People out there
> > > aren't running Symantec/Netscape/Winzip/Installshield/Windows 95. They're
> > > just running Windows 95, with various utilities.
> >
> > agreed, kernel is the core of an OS, the OS provides interfaces for the
> > user applications. Without the utilities, the computer can still boot,
> > but without the kernel, no utilities can run. utilities are important
> > but they are not part of an OS. Linux is licensed under GNU (ie.
> > Copyleft), just like MS-DOS has its own Copyright, but we don't really
> > call it "whatevery license/Windows". So, it is suffice to call it Linux.
> The license is the GNU General Public Licence not GNU (GNU stands for
> GNU's not UNIX).
>
> Both the kernel and the utilities are required to run any user programs
> therefore they are considered an OS when combined.
>
> GNU/Linux is used to indicate that it is a GNU system running with a Linux
> kernel.
>
> David
> --
> David Vrabel
> Engineering Undergraduate at University of Cambridge, UK.
Sorry, I made a mistake on the GNU part. but what is the definition of
utilities? I interprete it as a tool to accomplish something, e.g.
emacs. I might be wrong on that one too. but I thought user programs
make use of C library functions.
Do you mean since GNU GCC is a utility and without this compiler, there
will be no other programs?
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Reply-To: "Jim Orfanakos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Jim Orfanakos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Cannot compile kernel in RH 6
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 10:02:42 GMT
I cannot recompile the kernel in RedHat 6.
In the '/usr/src/linux' directory I run 'make xconfig'. After that I run
'make dep;make clean'....and then I run 'make boot'.
The problem is with 'make boot'. It finishes with the error:
'System is 612K'
'System is to too big'
'Try using bzImage or modules'
Any Ideas?
Thanks.
Jim
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.orfanakos.com
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From: Fred Kuipers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SETI comparisons
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 21:34:00 GMT
Has anybody received the following error from the windoze version of SETI@home
while sending or receiving data.
WinSock error number 10060.
Thanks.
FK
(
Carl Hilinski wrote:
> For those of you who don't know, you can participate in the Search for
> Extraterrestrial Intelligence (God knows you won't find any of that around
> here) by going to http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu. What you get is a
> 107-second chunk of space chatter for your computer to chomp on while it's
> not working for you.
>
> It's quite an eye-opener as related to processors and computing power. My
> 350PII with 64mb took 43 hours to work on this running Win98. My Linux box,
> running a Cyrix 233MMX with 64mb, took only 23 hours to do its chunk.
>
> I'm curious if anyone else is running this and what kind of results they are
> seeing.
>
> ch
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From: Gary Wolfe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux on Dual Pentium-II machines
Date: 24 May 1999 08:31:05 GMT
peter wrote:
>
> According to M.V. Ramana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > I am thinking of building a simple dual-processor machine (2 P-II
400Mhz
> > CPUs).
>
> I'd actually recomend running dual Celerons. They are every bit as
> fast as the PII and about half the price. In fact, my single-CPU
> Celeron 333 is actually a bit faster than my dual-CPU PII-333 when
> running on just one CPU.
>
> > The most challenging task for this machine, if an when built,
> > would be running some serious number crunching (linux) applications
from
> > mathematical optimization, computational algebra etc.
>
> Fortunately for you, RH 6.0 installs SMP out of the box. ;-)
>
> > If some of you out there have built similar machine configurations, I
> > would
> > much appreciate if you can share your experiences. A few questions on
> > on my mind are:
> >
> > 1) On applications (built say, using gcc) that are not designed with
> > parallel processing in mind, can you get any speed up at all?
>
> Unless they are multi-threaded, no.
>
This is not entirely correct. On SMP machines the scheduler will try to
put the application on the least busy cpu. Even apps that aren't
multi-threaded will benefit since one cpu can do other things like run X
and all the windows etc. freeing up another processor to run the new app.
Whereas on a uniprocessor box the 1 cpu has to do everything thus limiting
the amount of time the new app in question would get were.
This a simplification but it hold true.
Now if you were meaning that the application in question itself would not
"span" cpus and thus get no benefit were it not multi-threaded then I
agree. But the original poster was asking for any benefit in performance.
Perhaps you are answering what he means and I am answering what he wrote?
Only he could clarify.
[deleted for brevity]
> -p.
>
Later,
Gary Wolfe
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Q: performance of RC5 client on Sparc
Date: 24 May 1999 05:51:10 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have both a P133 running Linux (48 MB RAM, kernel 2.0.36) and a
Sparcstation running Linux (an Axil 245, Microsparc II at 110 MHz, 64 MB RAM,
kernel 2.0.35), and both are running the distributed.net RC5DES cracking
client. Unfortunately, I'm not seeing the performance I was expecting out
of the Sparcstation.
On the PC:
alderamin:~>uname -a ; dmesg | grep ogo
Linux alderamin 2.0.36 #1 Tue May 11 18:06:05 MST 1999 i586 unknown
Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 53.04 BogoMIPS
On the Sparcstation:
menkent:~>uname -a; dmesg | grep ogo
Linux menkent 2.0.35 #1 Wed Oct 14 10:16:12 EDT 1998 sparc unknown
Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 109.77 BogoMIPS
As you can see, the Sparc appears to be whomping all over the PC!
But when I run the RC5DES client on both machines, I get some unexpected
results.
Typical block on the PC:
[May 24 00:28:33 GMT] Completed RC5 block 9D1FD371:30000000 (2147483648 keys)
[May 24 00:28:33 GMT] 0.03:19:59.82 - [178,959.52 keys/sec]
Typical block on the Sparcstation:
[May 24 03:52:36 UTC] Completed one RC5 packet 9D1667F6:60000000 (1*2^28 keys)
0.00:46:47.57 - [95,611.28 keys/sec]
Only half the keys/sec on a machine that scores twice the BogoMIPs?
What's wrong here? Is it a weakness of Linux on Sparc? Is the Sparc/Linux
RC5DES client poorly written or compiled? Or have I failed to configure the
client properly? Any suggestions are welcome...
JD
--
I was thrown out of fourth grade because I couldn't write my own name, and
it's been all downhill from there.
-- Linus Torvalds, in comp.os.mac.advocacy
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From: Mark Tranchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FREE TRIP TO ANTARCTICA - BEWARE!
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 09:37:45 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nice try Paul, aka Steven Greenberg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
In the name of decent morals and not promoting confidence trickery like
this, really don't do it.
Mark.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Watch out for this company - Magic Software (http://www.magic-sw.com)!
>
> They're giving away a trip to Antarctica to the developer of the "best"
> ecommerce app with their development tool (which they're giving away
> free, too).
>
> BUT DON'T BE TEMPTED!
>
> Their tool doesn't even RUN on Linux - it only deploys on Linux. You
> have to develop on WINDOWS!!
>
> OK, the prize is amazing - but in the name of open source, don't do it!
>
> Paul Revere
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Wilson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Date: 24 May 1999 09:36:46 GMT
Matthias Warkus wrote:
>> I support the right of innocent people to use a gun in self-defense when
>> the thugs of the DEA, IRS, or ATF decide to bust into their house to apprehend
>> them for exercising their freedom to be self-governing in a fashion that's
>> been deemed unacceptable by the state.
>
>*PLONK*
What? Did I flame somebody?
;-)
--Chris, one of those nutcases who considers civil disobedience to be morally
acceptable in certain cases, rather than accepting the government's word as
law -- oh, the humanity! Send him back to public school for reeducation ;-)
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From: Mark Tranchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Shell problem??
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 09:33:51 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
David Usherwood wrote:
>
> I am running SUSE 5.2 on a K6. I was trying to install Oracle8, and the
> install script (which had run OK on another box), errored with
>
> /orainst.cm: No such file or directory
>
> when orainst.cm was there, and the path included ',' .
>
You do mean '.' I hope...?
Mark.
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From: Mark Tranchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Adding fonts to Wordperfect 8
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 08:20:47 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't think you get xwpfi with the downloadable version. You can get
it as part of the downloadable WP7.0 with a bit of digging on the ftp
servers.
Mark.
Gero H. Marten wrote:
>
> jb wrote:
>
> > How can I add other fonts to the limited ones that come with the downloaded
> > version of Wordperfect 8?
>
> As root use xwpfi in the your /opt/wp80/shbin10 directory or what
> ever directory WP is in.
>
> --
> Gero H. Marten
> <http://www.provi.de/gmarten/index.html>
> --
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: WORDS OF WISDOM!! Upgrading RedHat 5.1 to 2.2.X Kernel
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 21:56:44 -0600
Rob Bos wrote:
> I didn't have any trouble upgrading 5.1 to kernel 2.2.9; just took a bit
> of dinking around with startup scripts, software upgrading, stuff like
> that.
Same here. I've been running kernel 2.2.1 on RH v5.1 since
early Feb. 1999 and it's been fine; much better in many ways
than the kernel 2.0.34 it replaced. I may eventually go to
kernel 2.2.9 or higher but until I have a compelling reason
to do so (USB support?), I'm quite pleased with 2.2.1
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need help setting up system.
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 22:07:01 -0600
Bev wrote:
>
> "Keven R. Pittsinger" wrote:
> >
> >Bev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > > Just for curious, why do most people use lilo rather than loadlin, which
> > > merely requires that you type 'win' or 'linux' at the C:\> prompt and
> > > leaves the MBR untouched?
> >
> > Dunno about anybody else, but there *is* no Windoze partition on my
> > machine. I'm 100% Linux here. Thus, there *is* no C:\> prompt.
>
> Then you don't need dual-bootability, do you? :-)
You still might want the ability to boot different kernels.
Ie, you've just compiled a new kernel and discovered
something crucial was left out. Why boot from a floppy
(yawn) to recompile when you can just select your old,
working kernel from the lilo prompt?
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Jamie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Commercially speaking....?
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 12:14:35 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Iain Georgeson wrote:
>
>
> Iain, forced to use DOS every working day.
It is amazing the number of people that do not realise that Win 95 is
running on top of DOS just like 3.x did. They just put a (not so)
pretty picture up at the begining to hide the DOS stuff at boot time.
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Jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It wasn't me
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From: Mark Tranchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Cannot compile kernel in RH 6
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 11:35:09 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yes. Try using bzImage or modules.
Seriously, this is a frequently asked question, and is explained in the
kernel source README. Using "make bzImage" will leave you with a kernel
called bzImage in arch/i386/boot, which will work. Alternatively,
compile some things as modules (anything you don't need at boot).
Mark.
Jim Orfanakos wrote:
>
> I cannot recompile the kernel in RedHat 6.
>
> In the '/usr/src/linux' directory I run 'make xconfig'. After that I run
> 'make dep;make clean'....and then I run 'make boot'.
>
> The problem is with 'make boot'. It finishes with the error:
>
> 'System is 612K'
> 'System is to too big'
> 'Try using bzImage or modules'
>
> Any Ideas?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jim
>
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> Jim, Monika and Sophia Orfanakos
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From: mist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: My Windows is dead...and I need it!!
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 10:59:35 +0100
Reply-To: mist <new$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Charles Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribed to us that -
>
>mist wrote in message ...
> <snip>
>>from it. Assuming you have a working FDISK on the dos bootdisk then
>>that should fix your win98 MBR and let you boot windows again. You
>>can't use LILO on the MBR of a fat32 disk.
>
>
>That's news to me! I boot either Win 98 (FAT32) or RH 5.2 (ext2) from
> LILO on the MBR of a 10 Gb drive
>
Then LILO must have been upgraded since I last used it. Are you sure
it's not on the boot block of your Linux partition? (If not, I might
start using it myself.)
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Mist.
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