Linux-Misc Digest #453, Volume #20 Tue, 1 Jun 99 20:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: Permissions problem? (Scott Smith)
Re: Offline newsreader for Linux (Peter Wyzlic)
Re: Respawning too quickly (brian moore)
Re: RPM 'error' and modules won't load (Stuart R. Fuller)
Re: core dump ("kim kubik")
Re: Hot Horny Young Teen ("Hugh Saunders")
Re: Communism dosn't even exist, never did... (John Edstrom)
Re: Error compiling 2.2.2 kernel
Re: kernel config and make problems (somebody)
Re: About RealPlayer G2... (insomniac)
Re: Respawning too quickly ("D. Vrabel")
Re: Logitech FirstMouse+ (wheel) (Mohd H Misnan)
Bus Speed ("Scott T. Bruining")
Re: Re-placing LILO (Jorge Arellano Cid)
Re: choosing an OS for a retired Sun -- no BSD? (Manuel Bouyer)
Re: word processing, what to use? (Philip Brown)
Re: xterm & background processes (Philip Brown)
Re: iptraffic 1.4.3make problem ("D. Vrabel")
Re: Respawning too quickly (David L. Bilbey)
Re: About RealPlayer G2... (Peter Mutsaers)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Smith)
Subject: Re: Permissions problem?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 21:50:11 GMT
On Tue, 01 Jun 1999 19:51:45 GMT, Michael Lazenby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I've just moved into Linux from using SCO exlusively. Everything is OK on
>my new Redhat 5.0 system when I am in as root, but when I try to operate as
>an ordinary user I get a variety of permission type errors: No space left
>on device, when I try to create a file; Write error in swap file when I try
>to use vi.
>
>Anybody familiar with this problem?
Sounds like you don't have enough disk space left. root is allowed extra
space to fix any problems that might occur with low disk space.
Do "df" (disk free) to see how much space you have.
--
Scott Lacy Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Student of Computer Science
"Nullus Anxietas" Denton, Texas, US
The University of North Texas
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Wyzlic)
Subject: Re: Offline newsreader for Linux
Date: 1 Jun 1999 22:20:33 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 01 Jun 1999 20:46:16 +0000, Steve
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Now I just need to know where to get xagent and gnus :)
gnus is a part of emacs. If you installed emacs (GNU or Xemacs) you
have it already.
Peter
--
"A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely
rearranging their prejudices." -- William James
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: Respawning too quickly
Date: 1 Jun 1999 16:59:17 GMT
On 1 Jun 1999 15:50:39 GMT,
David L. Bilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've added a program to inittab that should respawn in runlevel 2:
>
> bm:2:respawn:/bin/bam
>
> However, I get an error message on boot:
> bam respawning too quickly, disabling for 5 minutes
> (or something like that)
>
> Then, 5 minutes later, it does it again. 5 minutes later: again, etc.
>
> Why is this happening, and how do I fix it? I need this program to start on
> boot. Thanks for the help.
It's happening because whatever "/bin/bam" is keeps exiting or dieing.
Make it stop doing that.
--
Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart R. Fuller)
Subject: Re: RPM 'error' and modules won't load
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 22:00:04 GMT
M.W. van der Molen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
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: I have a problem with rpm.
: I installed RedHat 5.2 with kernel 2.0.36-0.7
: Then I downloaded and installed the
: kernel-source-2.2.5-15-i386.rpm package. But after
: compiling and installing rpm -q kernel still reports
: kernel-2.0.36-0.7 ! This causes dependancies for some
: other pachages, which require kernel >= 2.2.0 to fail.
:
: rpm -bb kernel-source-2.2.5-15-i386.rpm won't work
: because it is not a source package. How can I change
: the kernel version rpm thinks I have ? I haven't found
: a solution in the rpm man pages or HOWTO...
The file "kernel-2.0.36-0.7.i386.rpm" which was previously installed contains
the Linux kernel and some other bits and pieces. The package name for this is
"kernel".
The file "kernel-source-2.2.5-15-i386.rpm" contains the sources for the V2.2
kernel, most of which are simply copied into /usr/src/linux with appropriate
links setup. The package name for this is "kernel-source". As you've
observed, it is NOT a source package in the sense that RPM considers to be a
source package.
This is the reason that "rpm -q kernel" still reports "2.0.36". Had you done
a "rpm -q kernel-source" it would have told you about 2.2.5.
You can probably go back to where you got your "kernel-source" package and get
a 2.2 version of the "kernel" package.
Stu
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From: "kim kubik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: core dump
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 15:26:29 -0700
Just a quick caverat here in case there is one
other person reading this as stupid as I am:
I remember 'core' dumps from using Unix over a
decade ago (I think everyone on that system had
a 4-Mb file named 'core' in their home dir because
no one told them to delete it!), but being new to
Linux and poking around I noted a '/proc/kcore' file
that also is HUGE and that I *almost* deleted, thinking
it was the Linux equivalent.
But wanting to be certain I did a little dejanews
look-see first.
Thank God for dejanews!
- kim
________________________________
"We leave it to the reader to speculate
on whether it should be called D or P."
- BSTJ, 1978(Jul/Aug) , v57(n6pt2)p2019.
D. Vrabel wrote in message ...
>On Fri, 28 May 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Getting familure with Linux (RH 5.2), tried to
>> look at the memory allocation in memory. I found
>> "/dev/mem" and tried to read the file with 'joe',
>> It was unreadable. Exited 'joe' and got a report
>> of 'dump' or core dump'. I found "core" file in
>> my root directory. Illedgable with any editor I
>> use. "core" file is greater than 5 megs.
>>
>Core dumps are the process images dumped to disk by the kernel
when the
>process receives a fatal exception (eg Segmentation fault etc).
>
>I your case the core file is from the editor joe.
>
>Just delete it.
>
>David
>--
>David Vrabel
>Engineering Undergraduate at University of Cambridge, UK.
>
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From: "Hugh Saunders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.m68k,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.lynx,comp.os.mach,comp.os.magic-cap
Subject: Re: Hot Horny Young Teen
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 05:21:15 +0100
Is this a request for a HOWTO?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Edstrom)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Communism dosn't even exist, never did...
Date: 1 Jun 1999 22:34:30 GMT
In article <7if7q6$6iv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
dentoir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> dhs.org> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
...
>>> So what is all this dribble about Linux being a Communist Software package.
>> It's fairly 'drivel' actually. Linux is one of the best examples of whatcan
>> happen when INDIVIDUALS have the freedom to pursue their own goals, rather
The Fearless Leader of commercial Linux distributions is Red Hat, da?
Don't you get it comrades? RED Hat!!!
^^^
Do I have to draw a picture? (Ever notice how the guy with the REDhat
in the logo skulks around and never exposes his face?)
>
>
> -- dentoir
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~edtx/
--
John Edstrom | edstrom @ slugo.hmsc.orst.edu
http://bubo.hmsc.orst.edu/~edstrom
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Subject: Re: Error compiling 2.2.2 kernel
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 04:24:10 GMT
In article <7iv4b0$fig$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Bryan Feeney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Every time I try to compile the new 2.2.2 kernel
>with make zImage,I get an error telling me that
>csum_partial_copy is already defined.The last 5
>lines are
>
>make[2]: *** [checksum.o] Error 1
>make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.36.SuSE/arch/i386/lib'
>make[1]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
>make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.36.SuSE/arch/i386/lib'
>make: *** [_dir_arch/i386/lib] Error 2
I have a SuSE system, and I seem to remember getting this error when I
tried to install a 2.2.x kernel. If I remember correctly, I had to play
around with the processor type and features settings to get it to
compile correctly. Sorry I can't remember much more than that...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (somebody)
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.act.kernel,linux.redhat.devel,linux.redhat.development,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: kernel config and make problems
Date: 1 Jun 1999 04:20:57 GMT
Do you have a previous install of the kernel source on your machine?
Harland
In article <7icf3k$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
>using redhat 5.2 linux, kerenel 2.2.3, i type make config and if i pick
>certain things like scsi = y, it goes into this loop and no matter what i
>press i can't get to the next question. another problem (after picking no
>and as few options as possible) i was able to make config, make dep, and
>then make where i get this error -
>
>/usr/src/linux-2_2_3/include/linux/joystick.h:168: warning:
>`MODULE_SUPPORTED_DE
>VICE' redefined
>/usr/src/linux-2_2_3/include/linux/module.h:212: warning: this is the
>location o
>f the previous definition
>/usr/src/linux-2_2_3/include/linux/joystick.h:176: parse error
>In file included from mem.c:18:
>/usr/src/linux-2_2_3/include/linux/i2c.h:90: parse error
>/usr/src/linux-2_2_3/include/linux/i2c.h:112: parse error
>In file included from mem.c:17:
>/usr/src/linux-2_2_3/include/linux/joystick.h:164: conflicting types for
>`spinlo
>ck_t'
>/usr/src/linux-2_2_3/include/asm/spinlock.h:19: previous declaration of
>`spinloc
>k_t'
>make[3]: *** [mem.o] Error 1
>make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2_2_3/drivers/char'
>make[2]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
>make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2_2_3/drivers/char'
>make[1]: *** [_subdir_char] Error 2
>make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2_2_3/drivers'
>make: *** [_dir_drivers] Error 2
>
>any ideas?
>please reply by e-mail,
>thanks,
>darrin, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
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From: insomniac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: About RealPlayer G2...
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 21:47:25 GMT
Andy Piper wrote:
>
> Jim wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks guys. G2 now works. The linux-base-5.2 update solved the problem.
> > > It includes a fix for chrooted files which was the problem. That url is
> > > now part of my bookmarks. It contains some
> > > nice current info for Linux emulation.
> >
> > I folloxed along on this thread, and I have had about half good luck. I
> > can run the Linux G2 player, yet all I get from my speakers is static.
> > The old player would work fine, but this one just does not want to work.
> > The video displays as well. Anyone know where I should look on this one?
>
> I can't get any sound at all out of the RealPlayer G2 alpha.
> It loads OK (I had to spoof the registration though as it
> kept complaining of errors in the regional data when I said
> I was in the UK), but I can't get any sound. Ideas?
>
> Andy
>
> --
> Andy Piper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Fareham, Hampshire
Same here, loads, when I click a link, it starts up the player and it
says connecting, but there's no sound and nothing happens.
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From: "D. Vrabel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Respawning too quickly
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 18:46:25 +0100
On 1 Jun 1999, David L. Bilbey wrote:
> I've added a program to inittab that should respawn in runlevel 2:
>
> bm:2:respawn:/bin/bam
>
> However, I get an error message on boot:
> bam respawning too quickly, disabling for 5 minutes
> (or something like that)
>
> Then, 5 minutes later, it does it again. 5 minutes later: again, etc.
>
> Why is this happening, and how do I fix it? I need this program to start on
> boot. Thanks for the help.
What is bam? Is it a daemon that runs constantly or does it run once and
stop. If it's the latter your running it run the wrong place. If it's
the former then bam is setup wrong and exits as soon as it starts.
David Vrabel
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mohd H Misnan)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Logitech FirstMouse+ (wheel)
Date: 1 Jun 1999 15:25:13 GMT
On Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:08:21 GMT, Vinh Le wrote:
>This setup didn't work. The wheel didn't do anything in netscape.
>
>Okay, here's one thing that may screw me up, my Logitech FirstMouse+
>is an OEM model M-S48 without the Logitech logo on top and white
>in color. I read one webpage that said this OEM model *might* work.
I've exactly the same model as yours and sorry.. I couldn't get it to work
either and it was mentioned in the iwheel FAQ too. Upon inspecting inside, found
out that mine is using Zilog chip and the one that works as per the FAQ has
Logitech chip. May be we need to wait for a little while until somebody from
XFree can dig out the codes from FreeBSD (heard that their moused working with
this kind of hw).
--
|Mohd Hamid Misnan |[EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] |i|
|iMac/233 RevB+MacOS 8.6 |http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/3319/ |M|
|Mitac 5033/AMD K6-2/300 |We want to take over the world, but we don't have |a|
|Linux 2.2.9 i586 |to do it tomorrow. It's OK by next week - Linus T.|c|
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From: "Scott T. Bruining" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Bus Speed
Date: 1 Jun 1999 18:40:35 GMT
Is there a command or program to determine what bus speed a system is
using? I just got a new box and want to make sure it is running at 100mhz.
Please respond via email.
--
Scott T. Bruining
Computer User Services
Illinois State University
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From: Jorge Arellano Cid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Re-placing LILO
Date: 1 Jun 1999 14:34:02 GMT
Technical Computing Services <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Installed SuSE 6.1 on my 2nd hard drive (/dev/hdb). Win95 resides on
: the first
: hard drive.
: After fragging the 2nd hard drive a few times, I finally succeeded
: installing
: SuSE 6.1 and putting LILO on the first hard drive....or so I thought.
: I rebooted and received the "LILO" prompt. Chose 'linux' and booted
: into
: Linux just fine.
: Shut down, restarted. All that did appear was "LI"
: Well, this is normal, I thought. At least I have System Commander.
: System Commander does let me boot into Win95, but of course doesn't
: let me into Linux.
: I'd like to re-install LILO as my boot loader, but I'm not exactly sure
: how
: to do this once I'm past the initial install phase.
: Could someone who knows how to do this perchance point me in the
: right direction? For the moment, I'm booting into Win with System
: Command and Linux with a boot disk (see how cumbersome this is?)
: Much thanks to anyone who can rescuse me from this slight madness!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Manuel Bouyer)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: choosing an OS for a retired Sun -- no BSD?
Date: 31 May 1999 18:32:03 GMT
Bob Keys ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> [...]
>
> Solaris ran well, but was slow! NetBSD I could never get up to what I
> felt was sufficiently stable to make a production box, and I have tried
> everything and every version I can lay hands on. OpenBSD 2.5 betas
Could you be more precise about what versions you tried, and which problems
you had ? I use NetBSD 1.3.3 on both a IPC with 20Mb (handles a few users
ftp'ing or telnetting in, no problems at all, >200 days uptime) and
a ELC with 16Mb (DNS, cvs and an experimental ftp and www server, no problem
either). I also have 1.4 on a IPX, which doesn't do much else than
compilations.
--
Manuel Bouyer, LIP6, Universite Paris VI. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Brown)
Subject: Re: word processing, what to use?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 01 Jun 1999 22:59:00 GMT
On Fri, 28 May 1999 13:59:51 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Philip Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>...
>> any one of dozens of modeless editors would better fit the description
>> "nice, quick way to edit text files".
>> jove, joe, uemacs, jed, .....
>
>Quickly edit files, not quickly start editing files (though it
>does that too.) vi's good for writing up a resume (if you have
>troff handy), or writing a program, or anything else you
>need to do (for evaluating lisp expressions, I use a lisp interpreter,
>no need to put one in the text editor, any more than there's need to
>put in a C compiler.
None of the editors I mentioned have a lisp interpreter. Which is why they
fit the "nice, quick" definition.
And in fact, most of them compile to a 500k executable or smaller.
--
[Trim the no-bots from my address to reply to me by email!]
[ Do NOT email-CC me on posts. Pick one or the other.]
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The word of the day is sescaquintillion
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Brown)
Subject: Re: xterm & background processes
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 01 Jun 1999 23:01:27 GMT
On Fri, 28 May 1999 22:59:02 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Conway Yee wrote:
>>
>> Running a terminal and involking a background process, say "foo &"
>> should invoke foo in the background that is detached from the parent
>> process.
>wrong. it's not detached, it only runs in the background: try
>foo &
>fg
>> Specifically, when I terminate the parent process, the
>> xterm, foo should continue to run.
>worng. If a process (the shell which runs in xterm) is terminated, it
>sweeps all 'jobs', i.e. bg and fg processes (man bash)
[ blah blah blah]
xterm has nothing to do with the issue. The things that matter, are
1. what shell did you start the subprogram from?
2. how did you start it?
read the manpage for the appropriate shell, to find the behaviour of
child processes, when the shell prog exits.
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[Trim the no-bots from my address to reply to me by email!]
[ Do NOT email-CC me on posts. Pick one or the other.]
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The word of the day is sescaquintillion
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From: "D. Vrabel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: iptraffic 1.4.3make problem
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 18:39:28 +0100
On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, services.moore wrote:
> Somebody arround, who has successfully installed iptraffic 1.4.3 on SuSE
> 6.1?
>
> If I type 'make install'
> an error occurred:
> 'Makefile:76: *** missing separator. Stop.'
> and then I'm back on the command prompt.
Makefiles require TABs and not spaces.
eg.
junk.o: junk.c junk.h
[tab] gcc -ojunk.o junk.c
emacs has a makefile mode which highlights tabs (in X).
I personally think this was the worst design decision ever made. Can
anybody tell me why it was done like this? What was wrong with a LF?
David Vrabel
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From: David L. Bilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Respawning too quickly
Date: 1 Jun 1999 17:57:55 GMT
+-----On Tue, 1 Jun 1999 18:46:25 +0100, D. Vrabel spoke unto us:----------
| > I've added a program to inittab that should respawn in runlevel 2:
| >
| > bm:2:respawn:/bin/bam
| >
| > However, I get an error message on boot:
| > bam respawning too quickly, disabling for 5 minutes
| > (or something like that)
| >
| > Then, 5 minutes later, it does it again. 5 minutes later: again, etc.
| >
| > Why is this happening, and how do I fix it? I need this program to start on
| > boot. Thanks for the help.
|
| What is bam? Is it a daemon that runs constantly or does it run once and
| stop. If it's the latter your running it run the wrong place. If it's
| the former then bam is setup wrong and exits as soon as it starts.
It is the only program that I care to run on this particular setup. It
should start on bootup and allow the user to interact with it. It can be
exited, but should immediately restart after exiting.
bilbey
--
"The next time you go to the doctor, go ahead and bring in a stool sample.
They might need it. Better go ahead and bring some for the dentist too."
--Jack Handey
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From: Peter Mutsaers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: About RealPlayer G2...
Date: 01 Jun 1999 23:25:46 +0200
>> "J" == Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
J> I folloxed along on this thread, and I have had about half good
J> luck. I can run the Linux G2 player, yet all I get from my
J> speakers is static. The old player would work fine, but this
J> one just does not want to work. The video displays as
J> well. Anyone know where I should look on this one?
I tried the G2 player yesterday, and it runs with good sound and video
for me. Note that I use the linux-base-5.2 port instead of the
standard linux emulation port.
--
Peter Mutsaers | Abcoude (Utrecht), | Trust me, I know
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | the Netherlands | what I'm doing.
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