Linux-Misc Digest #524, Volume #20 Sun, 6 Jun 99 20:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: CRW4416 crashes my system .. a little help please (DanH)
Re: A new front in the war is opening! (Karel Jansens)
Anyone know "Workstation 2000" people? (Robert Lynch)
Re: Something is destroying my man pages! (Mircea)
Re: Mice recommendations ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Any body runnung dual Intel's Celerons cpus with Linux? (Alex Lam)
Re: Dumped Redhat like a stale girlfriend...SuSE is for me
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment....
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: choosing an OS for a retired Sun workstation (Volker Borchert)
Re: Accounting software (quicken type) for LINUX? (DanH)
Logitech FirstMouse+ (wheel) (Vinh Le)
Re: GCC Compatibility (Seth Van Oort)
help please ("KingJester")
Re: Anyone know a good linux book ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: crontab to start PPP (Juergen Heinzl)
Re: Anyone know a good linux book (Gene Wilburn)
How big can swap partition be? (Paul Thomas)
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From: DanH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup.misc
Subject: Re: CRW4416 crashes my system .. a little help please
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 21:04:57 +0000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > hi there
>
> > i had to disconnect my YAMAHA crw4416s scsi cdrw to even get Suse
> > 1.6 to install, Suse is up and running fine but i would like to get
> > the cdrw workng any ideas?
>
> > everthing goes fine on boot the adaptec 2940 is there but then it
> > crashes with errors like
>
> I suspect there is a problem with the drive/adapter and or driver
> combination. I have a 4416S running on a Symbios 53c875 without
> any problems. If this happens with Linux only and other OSs run fine
> then you should try to contact those people maintaining the
> Adaptec driver.
Been here, done this, got the three hours it took me to figure this out.
Get into the Adaptec utility (on boot up) and take the target for the
Yamaha down to 20 bps.
It cannot handle the Ultra, wide, etc SCSI calls that the SCSI
controller can.
Write me if you have further questions on this or if this makes no
sense. I'll try to write a cleaner step-by-step version.
HerrGlock
--
UNIX - Not just for vestal virgins anymore
Linux - Choice of a GNU generation
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From: jansens_at_ibm_dot_net (Karel Jansens)
Reply-To: jansens_at_ibm_dot_net
Subject: Re: A new front in the war is opening!
Date: 6 Jun 1999 21:15:00 GMT
If this wasn't so badly written and so full of stupid mistakes, I'd never
have noticed the trolling.
At least the length of the post (a lot more than the usual "Linux suxx
bigtime, why don't you leave Mr Gates alone.") shows that somewhere,
someone is getting more and more worried about Linux - which is good.
On Sun, 6 Jun 1999 06:44:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vikinsey) wrote:
> HELP!
>
> I recently learned that Microprose is planning a Linux release of Call to
> Power, but!
> 1.They're going to charge serious money
> 2.They're not going to release the source code
> Hey, get with it! The corporate slugs are trying to seduce us! If Master
> Torvald can give away the magic that makes Linux happens, then so can the
> corporate vampires!
> There's a reason Master T used the copywrite he did! To keep the vampires
> OUT!!!
> Proprietarianism has NO PLACE in the Linux community! Linux is NOT about
> money!
> If you're like me, and can remember those damn little punch cards, and the days
> when TelNet was the new frontier, you know what a sorry state slugs like the
> King of Redmond have reduced the computer community to. They almost
> extinguished the free-flow of ideas and code, and now that we're fighting back,
> they have the greed to try and litigate us out of existence!
> I will have nothing to do with Microprose's game, and am seriously considering
> mailing back all the Microprose products I possess in protest.(I can't use them
> since I gleefully wiped the Abonination(W95) from my system(I even run PCDOS
> instead of the dos that starts with an 'M'))
> Please join me in boycotting this sleazy attempt to establish corporate
> proprietarianism in the community of Linux Users.
> Yes, I do believe the monkeys who sat at their consoles and sweated out this
> code deserve recognition for their labors. But does it HAVE to be cash? And
> does anyone believe that the apes who actually DID the work will see any of the
> money Microprose wants to suck out of us?
> Help me spread the word! To your e-mailers! Urge everyone, as I am doing: Do
> NOT buy this bait!
> If it was an independent development group that created the game, and were the
> ones saying 'Hey, we put ten zillion hours into this and we need to re-stock
> our 'fridge before we starve," I wouldn't be writing this, but it's NOT! It's
> just another corporation trying to exploit our desire for quality
> entertainment!
> (Oh, and Microprose, before you send your lawers after ME for voicing my
> opinion(I'm sure your shysters will call it libel, or slander, or witchcraft,
> or whatever) If you want to be proprietary about code you create to run on a
> proprietary OS, that's FINE! That's free enterprise, and that's the way it
> SHOULD be. However, Linux is, by the express copyright of its creator,
> NON-proprietary.
> That means: Keep your greed out! It's unwanted, unwelcome, and un-Linux!)
Karel Jansens
jansens_at_ibm_dot_net
===============================================================
Having a kid at sixty, that's an accident.
Having a piano fallen on your head, that's just bad luck.
Agent WD40, Dick Steel
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Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 15:07:52 -0700
From: Robert Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Anyone know "Workstation 2000" people?
On comp.os.linux.announce I read about an offer (through Linux Mall) of
a "Workstation 2000 Developer Station" for $1289.
Questions:
-Anyone know this company, bought a system from them, whatever? They're
located in Fallbrook, CA 92028 USA. Are they reliable, do they use, make
good stuff?
-What's being offered
(from: http://www.w2000.com/linuxSystems.html)
W2000-LNX-DSK-128-01:
400MHz Pentium II Processor
64MB RAM -> goes to 128K if you refer to Linux Mall, buy before 6/30
4GB EIDE Disk -> goes to 8GB if " " " "
40X CD-ROM
10/100 Networking
8MB AGP Video
3 Button PS-2 Mouse
Keyboard
MidTower Desktop Chassis
RedHat 6.0
Any comments or suggestions greatly appreciated.
TIA, Bob L.
P.S. Previously I've seen posting here from LinuxMall haters. If you're
one, but don't know anything in direct answer to my question, maybe you
should direct your comments to /dev/null?
--
Robert Lynch-Berkeley CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.best.com/~rmlynch/
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From: Mircea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Something is destroying my man pages!
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 17:18:14 -0400
Ed Young wrote:
>
> Are the files in /usr/man/man? being truncated?
>
> Try going into /var/catman/* and deleting any old *.gz's
> that your find. Then try man again. Maybe your man
> formatting engine is in trouble.
>
> Just a thought...
I have no /var/catman directory. There's /var/man/cat1..catn, but
they're empty. The files are completely destroyed, there's only 20
characters left, such as: ^_ ^H (that's what's left of setserial.8.gz).
Thanks,
MST
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Mice recommendations
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 16:56:05 -0500
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> : What mice do most people recommend to use with Linux?
>
> white ones.
>
> Logitech mouseman+, with tail. Always buy logitech.
Let me repeat your recommendation.
ALWAYS BUY LOGITECH!!!
Linux, Windoze, whatever, *always* buy Logitech.
No, I'm not associated with Logitech. I have just thrown
numerous free mice out the window and was never satisfied
until it was a Logitech. Quality speaks for itself.
Rick
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From: Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Any body runnung dual Intel's Celerons cpus with Linux?
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 13:53:25 -0700
Any body runnung dual Intel's Celerons cpus with Linux?
As there're now inexpensive adapter for the purpose. A mobo/dual
cpus/heat sinks/fans combo can be had for about $400.US.
Thanks.
Alex Lam.
--
*remove the X if reply by e mail.
** no more M$ Windoze.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Dumped Redhat like a stale girlfriend...SuSE is for me
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 16:50:43 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In his obvious haste, James Robert Lunsford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled thusly:
> : This is the type of information I'm looking for. I'm getting ready to
> : grab a cdrom distribution from Linux Mall or CheapBytes and I don't know
> : which one to get. I'm running Debian now that I downloaded and
> : installed, but I'm wondering if I should try suse, RH, Caldera or stick
> : with Debian. I'm ok with how Debian handles things, but I wonder if
> : another distro could do it better, and there's the fact that I have a
> : Permedia2 video card and suse has a driver for it built in...
>
> I'm a SuSE user, and recently had a dabble trying to install Red Hat on a
> spare 200 Meg hard disk (Something I had no problem with under SuSE).
>
> The differences were quite....huge.
> I can now say from experience that YaST is far superior a setup tool.
> (This is comparing Red Hat 5.2 with SuSE 5.2)
good synopsis of SuSE vs. RedHat deleted.
I too am a SuSE fan. I went to SuSE when I had trouble installing RedHat.
I wrote to RedHat to ask them if my purchase of the Sam's Linux book (which
included RedHat) qualified for technical support. I go no response. Then I
bought SuSE 5.2. I struggled with it for months and learned a great deal
about Linux. Then, I went out and bought the famed Caldera 2.2. The
technical support guy was a moron. Nothing installed properly except
my video card and the technical support person couldn't muster up more
than a partial sentence in response to my two page detailed description of
my problems. Repeated attempts only garnered more of the same, useless
one liners. The manual was totally worhless as it didn't have anything in
it outside of what buttons to push during install. If the button didn't work,
tough cookies. Finally, I went and bought SuSE 6.1. Only a couple peripherals
didn't install straight out of the box but it was a piece of cake to follow the
instructions in the manualto set these up. I now have a completely working
system.
Slackware - OK
RedHat - yawn
Caldera - BITE ME!
SuSE - Great!
Rick
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment....
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 17:02:29 -0500
W Canedigh wrote:
> Johan Kullstam wrote:
> >
> > John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > Jon-o Addleman wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Once upon a Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:43:13 +0200, "Jan Johansson"
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Correct. Not a bug, that was the way MS wanted it.. and it makes sense to me
> > > > >atleast.
> > > >
> > > > Really? Why would they want it to be impossible to save your password
> > > > unless a particular protocol was in place? It makes llittle sense to
> > > > me... the dial up networking has nothing to do with the network
> > > > protocol that it uses. Please explain this to me!
> > >
> > > Perhaps to encourage you to use their proprietary protocol
> > > instead of other, more open protocols?
> >
> > microsoft wants you to run linux. really!
> >
> > --
> > johan kullstam
>
> Hey ... they sold me a copy! In fact, RH 5.2 was so nice I tried Cladera
> OpenLinux 2.2 just to see what else was possible! Those guys in Redmond
> are masterful marketers! Ah, Billy m'boy ... you've done it again!
If you really want to see what's possible, try SuSE.
Rick
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Volker Borchert)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: choosing an OS for a retired Sun workstation
Date: 1 Jun 1999 10:22:34 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David C.) writes:
|> I have personally used SunOS 4.1.4 and Solaris 2.6 on an IPX. It was
|> annoyingly slow with 32M of RAM. Still slow, but acceptible at 64M.
Well don't expect too much bang from a 40 MHz RISC CPU. I have
worked on a Sparc 1 with 12 M running SunOS 4.1.3 and MIT X11R6
and found it tolerable. But I second the recommendation to max
out memory.
|> Netscape was painfully slow with any amount of RAM.
It is slow even on an Ultra 1/300 with 256 MB.
|> installing and configuring SunOS is a pain-and-a-half.
I don't think so. Admittedly you can't install it "point&click"
but I have never had problems. You should work out your disk
partitioning scheme in advance, however.
|> I would recommend a larer hard drive than 1G if you choose to go with a
|> Sun OS. Most of that 1G will be consumed by the system. Fortunately,
|> 2G and 4G drives are pretty inexpensive these days.
Not really. I have a 500 MB system disk and it is big enough
to hold pre-formatted man pages and about half a dozen kernel
build directories and still has ample space in /var/tmp etc.
Nevertheless, I recommend that you should have at least four
gig available, since you'll want a few hundred megs each for
/usr/local and /usr/X11R6, and at least one gig for GNU and
X11R6 sources.
One thing to keep in mind is that SunOS 4.1.x does not support
local file systems larger than two gig, though it can NFS mount
almost any size.
--
"I'm a doctor, not a mechanic." Dr Leonard McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"I'm a mechanic, not a doctor." Volker Borchert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: DanH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Accounting software (quicken type) for LINUX?
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 22:27:29 +0000
Peter Kerekes wrote:
>
> Is there an accounting software made for Linux, similar to Quicken, or can
> somehow quicken be used with Linux OS?
Here is a link to "Linux Financial Software" maybe you'll find something
that's right for you. I remember reading about one that can read
quicken files, but I cannot remember which one.
http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/financelinux.html
Dan
--
UNIX - Not just for vestal virgins anymore
Linux - Choice of a GNU generation
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vinh Le)
Subject: Logitech FirstMouse+ (wheel)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:08:21 GMT
Hi!
I have a Logitech FirstMouse+, the two button kind with
the wheel in the middle that works as a third button.
As a three button mouse, it works great! I would like
to use the wheel too, if I can. From what I've read,
this should be easily accomplished. However, it's yet
to work for me, so I'd like some advice as to how to
debug my setup.
This is all I have in the Pointer section of XF86Config:
Section "Pointer"
Protocol "MouseManPlusPS/2"
Device "/dev/mouse"
ZAxisMapping 4 5
EndSection
As you can see, the ZAxisMapping 4 5 is there.
I also downloaded imwheel-0.9.6.tar.gz and followed
the instructions for "[ METHOD #1 : XGrabButton ]"
After restarting X, I ran "imwheel -k".
I put in .Xdefaults for netscape:
!## NETSCAPE
Netscape*drawingArea.translations: #replace \
<Btn1Down>: ArmLink() \n\
<Btn2Down>: ArmLink() \n\
~Shift<Btn1Up>: ActivateLink() \n\
~Shift<Btn2Up>: ActivateLink(new-window) \
DisarmLink() \n\
Shift<Btn1Up>: ActivateLink(save-only) \
DisarmLink() \n\
Shift<Btn2Up>: ActivateLink(save-only) \
DisarmLink() \n\
<Btn1Motion>: DisarmLinkIfMoved() \n\
<Btn2Motion>: DisarmLinkIfMoved() \n\
<Btn3Motion>: DisarmLinkIfMoved() \n\
<Motion>: DescribeLink() \n\
<Btn3Down>: xfeDoPopup() \n\
<Btn3Up>: ActivatePopup() \n\
Ctrl<Btn4Down>: PageUp()\n\
Ctrl<Btn5Down>: PageDown()\n\
Shift<Btn4Down>: LineUp()\n\
Shift<Btn5Down>: LineDown()\n\
None<Btn4Down>: LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()\n\
None<Btn5Down>:
LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()\n\
Alt<Btn4Down>: xfeDoCommand(forward)\n\
Alt<Btn5Down>: xfeDoCommand(back)\n
Netscape*globalNonTextTranslations: #override\n\
Shift<Btn4Down>: LineUp()\n\
Shift<Btn5Down>: LineDown()\n\
None<Btn4Down>:LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()\n\
None<Btn5Down>:LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()\n\
Alt<Btn4Down>: xfeDoCommand(forward)\n\
Alt<Btn5Down>: xfeDoCommand(back)\n
This setup didn't work. The wheel didn't do anything in netscape.
Okay, here's one thing that may screw me up, my Logitech FirstMouse+
is an OEM model M-S48 without the Logitech logo on top and white
in color. I read one webpage that said this OEM model *might* work.
So, I need confirmation from you guys with this mouse or a nice
test thing I can do to see if the wheel responds as button 4 and 5.
Thanks!
Vinh
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
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Vinh Le
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Seth Van Oort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: GCC Compatibility
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 17:14:30 -0500
Two possibilities.
1. The kernel is old enough that it doesn't support ELF executables
2. The old computer doesn' have '.' in its path or something to that
effect
Seth
Andrea Peri wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> I have compiled a little program on a Linux Machine with RedHat 5.2
> using gcc
> i.e: gcc -i test.c -o test.execute
>
> and it work fine.
>
> But if I try to execute same executable on a Linux Machine with a
> older Linux, it is refused to execute, saying
>
> "file not found."
>
> Someone can help me ?
>
> thanks in advance.
>
> Andrea.
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From: "KingJester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: help please
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 17:14:24 -0500
I have redhat 5.2 installed on a second hard drive in my system... my first
hard drive is NT.... i used a floppy disk to boot the system into linux....
my floppy is gone now and i'm not sure how to get back into my system.... i
have made a boot disk and a rescue disk, but I can't figure out how to get
back to my system on my hard drive..... i can't mount the hd or anything....
what am i doing wrong?...or rather what am i not doing?.... how can i get
another disk made that will boot the system?
thanx
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Anyone know a good linux book
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 6 Jun 1999 23:23:38 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (User941444)
writes:
>Hello
>
>Personally im a windows 95/98 expert and have recently installed red hat 6. Im
>finding certain thinks confusing and difficult. Can anyone reomemnd a good book
>thAT NOT ONLY LOOKS AT LINUX BUT the graphical user intefaces like kde and
>gnome as many books ive looked at only cover the command you type, not press
>with the mouse.
There may be no such thing as "a" good Linux book. I've accumulated 5, sometimes
buying one just to get one chapter.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: crontab to start PPP
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 22:52:57 GMT
In article <7jek42$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Gerald Jensen wrote:
>Juergen Heinzl wrote:
>
>> In article <7je5kv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Gerald Jensen wrote:
>> >Juergen Heinzl wrote:
>> >
>> >> In article <7jcbn2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Gerald Jensen wrote:
>> >> >Juergen Heinzl wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> In article <7jbdhk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Gerald Jensen wrote:
>> >> >> >I'm having trouble getting a crontab to start a PPP session at 11:59pm
>> >> >> >every night. I've tried ....
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >59 23 * * * /etc/ppp/ppp-on
[...]
>> >SHELL=/bin/sh
>> ># Make PPP connection using ppp-on shell script
>> ># MAILTO=""
>> ># 5 0 * * * /etc/ppp/ppp-on
>> ># 6 0 * * * /usr/bin/rdate -s -p 132.163.135.130
>> ># 7 0 * * * /etc/ppp/ppp-off
>> ... this will not work, at least if those '#' in the last three
>> lines are really there, since they mean "comment" ... well, it
>> does work, it just does nothing.
>> [...]
[...]
>There a number of calls in the text file this crontab comes from (I only sent
>you part of it), and I mistakenly forgot to remove the # signs in the sample I
>sent you. This is the applicable portion of the crontab as it *actually is* ...
>
># crontab to set up PPP connection, get time/date
># use /bin/sh to run commands, no matter what /etc/passwd says
>SHELL=/bin/sh
># Make PPP connection using ppp-on shell script
># MAILTO=""
>5 0 * * * /etc/ppp/ppp-on
>6 0 * * * /usr/bin/rdate -s -p 132.163.135.130
>7 0 * * * /etc/ppp/ppp-off
Yep ... nothing spurious, so ...
Change the MAILTO, so a mail is sent.
Change /etc/ppp/ppp-on, read add ...
set -x
... after the #! /bin/sh and use the debugging options for chat and
pppd for finally there must be a reason. I assume ppp-on does not
evaluate some environment variables not set if run from cron (?)
Let's see,
Juergen
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\ Real name : J�rgen Heinzl \ no flames /
\ EMail Private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ send money instead /
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From: Gene Wilburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Anyone know a good linux book
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 23:12:54 GMT
I just finished reading SAMS "Teach Yourself KDE in 24 Hours". It's
really quite good and a worthwhile addition to your library if you plan
to use KDE as an interface.
Gene
"David M. Cook" wrote:
>
> On 2 Jun 1999 20:04:33 GMT, User941444 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Personally im a windows 95/98 expert and have recently installed red hat 6. Im
> >finding certain thinks confusing and difficult. Can anyone reomemnd a good book
> >thAT NOT ONLY LOOKS AT LINUX BUT the graphical user intefaces like kde and
> >gnome as many books ive looked at only cover the command you type, not press
> >with the mouse.
>
> Apart from the books that come with 6.0 (either paper or online in /usr/doc)
> there are not many books up-to-date enough to cover the newer interfaces
> (However, I have seen one of the "Teach Yourself Foo in 30 seconds" books on
> KDE.)
>
> www.gnome.org and www.kde.org or probably the best places for info on those
> interfaces.
>
> >2. Is there actually a great deal of difference between red hat 5.2 and 6. I
> >mean, would a book for 5.2 be fine for 6, and to what extent.
>
> Most of the differences are in the kernel and the GUI interface, but most of
> the config files are in the same place, and the shell interface is the same.
>
> Dave Cook
--
===================================================================
Gene Wilburn, Northern Journey Online, http://www.interlog.com/~njo
===================================================================
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From: Paul Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How big can swap partition be?
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 15:25:00 -0800
Hi,
With the new mkswap (2.9i) and kernel 2.2.28, how
large can swap partitions now be? What is the optimal
size for a swap partition, are two smaller ones better
than a sigle large one?
Please reply via email if possible, my news is spotty.
Thanks,
--Paul T.
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