Linux-Misc Digest #892, Volume #20 Fri, 2 Jul 99 11:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark?
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: RealPlayer G2 for linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: vmware review (Michel Bardiaux)
Re: NIC settings: what have i done?? (Thomas Thurau)
Re: Network Installation ("Tony Platt")
Visual programming language for linux? ("H.Eitjes")
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark?
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
RealPlayerG2 Download Link Correction (coffee)
Network Installation ("Alexander F. Hartner")
Re: pppd: "LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests" (Duncan Simpson)
Re: Script help - process checking (Duncan Simpson)
Re: /dev/dsp question (coffee)
10GB disk and LILO - I tried EVERYTHING! (Alessandro Magni)
10GB disk and LILO - I tried EVERYTHING! (Alessandro Magni)
Please HELP: sending email from RH6.0 (Nicolas Anquetil)
corrupt file on e2fs ("Ted George")
problem with graphic card S3 86 C368 ("M. KOUBITI")
Re: Apache Restart (Matthew W. Roberts)
FTP welcome message? (Pat Traynor)
Re: Bus Error at setup of Slackware 4.0 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Dell Inspiron compatibility? What is best laptop? (Barry Flanagan)
Re: internet connection with Linux (Jonathan Guthrie)
Re: Changing the "From:" line (Matthew W. Roberts)
Re: ISPS ("Frans")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark?
Date: 2 Jul 1999 11:40:07 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc "Bob Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
= In article <7lfucc$9j0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
= [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
= > In comp.os.linux.misc "Bob Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
= > = And how do you know this actually happened? Were you present? You read
= > = it in a book written by an American hater? On behalf of the Americans
= > = who died saving your sorry ass in WWII, I *demand* a retraction and
= > = appology for such a vicious attack!
= >
= > Who are you to *demand* anything?
= You falsely accused Americans of brutality.
Did I? Care to point out where?
Now who's making false accusations?
= > More to the point, I really wish the US lusers would stop it with the "We
= > pulled your ass(sp) out of the fire in WWII" bollocks.
= Look, you insufferable ass, the people of the US build the worlds
= largest and most successful economy.
Insufferable ass? What could possibly make you say that.
After WWII, yes. Before that, you were NOT a "superpower".
Your country was the only one in the northern hemishpere that was NOT
totally trashed in the war, therefore, you had no infrastructure to rebuild,
therefore, you had plenty of money to put elsewhere.
The only countries that really BENEFITTED from the war were Germany and the
USA (Because it bumped the usa several rungs up the ladder of world power,
and everyone else down a couple.)
Our farmers feed the US
= population and 25% of the rest of the world. The American people
= freely give of their time and money to those less fortunate.
And people from other countries DON'T?
= Now as to WWII, why don't you do some research and a little thinking?
= > The USA was *supposedly* an ally from BEFORE the war...
= > So, Mr Taylor... What year was the start of WWII again??? 1939? Or 1942?
= > WHERE WERE YOU LOT THEN?
= The overwhelming opinion of the Americans prior to Hitler was to stay
= out of European squabbles. There was also laws against involvement.
= Exactly *what* do you define WWII as? The war against Germany began
= when Britain and France declared war. As far as I am concerned, WWII
= began when the US declared war on Japan and Germany declared war on
= the US.
The rest of the world (tm) dates WWII as 1939 to 1945.
= > And don't come back with any balls about the US helping to rebuilt the
= > infrastructure in Britain with lots of money, because those were LOANS,
= > which we paid back and owe you NOTHING on that anymore.
= American money rebuilt Europe under the Marsall Plan. I Have *no* use
= whatsoever for revisionist historians. They are an insult to
= history. I also have little use and absolutly *no* respect for people
= who spread lies about my country and my people. Most especially
= vicious ones such as these.
What lies have I spread so far? care to point one out, cos I'm at a loss...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RealPlayer G2 for linux
Date: 2 Jul 1999 06:58:12 -0500
Silviu Minut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> It's not G2, when you actually download it, it's still 5.0.
>
Funny mine say version 6 for unix.
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From: Michel Bardiaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: vmware review
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 14:03:39 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> [I have no affiliation with vmware]
>
> Short Review of VMWARE
>
[snip]
Can you comment on the security implications of running WINsomething
(or a badly secured Linux, for that matter) under vmware?
--
Michel Bardiaux
UsrConsult S.P.R.L. Rue Margot, 37 B-1457 Nil St Vincent
Tel : +32 10 65.44.15 Fax : +32 10 65.44.10
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From: Thomas Thurau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: de.comp.os.unix.linux.hardware,de.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: NIC settings: what have i done??
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 13:32:33 +0200
Arash Robubi wrote:
[..]
> Perhaps i have some irq conflicts. How could i solve that. In which
> files can i set those hardware settings.
> Thanx
> Arash :-)
Normally there are 3 disks delivered with the 3Com NICs. On one of these
ist a tool called 3c50xcfg.exe. With this tool you can test and configure
your NICs. You simply have to boot DOS on your machine (if possible).
best wishes
Tom
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From: "Tony Platt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
ahn.tech.linux,alt.os.linux,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Network Installation
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 22:42:09 +1000
netcfg
then add an adapter, it will ask for the IP address etc
Tony
Alexander F. Hartner wrote in message <7li9ul$2tna$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I am looking for the command to start the program where you configure your
>network card. I have found linuxconf and netconfig (netconf / netcfg) which
>assist you to configure the routing etc, but I am looking for the program
to
>setup the irq etc for my network card. Could you please help.
>Thanks
>Alex
>
>
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From: "H.Eitjes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Visual programming language for linux?
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 14:27:33 +0200
Does there exist a Visual language for linux. Like there is visual C or
visual basic for MS-windows?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark?
Date: 2 Jul 1999 12:37:37 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc De Messemaeker Johan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
= You are taking this too personal :-)
You can say that again.
Some Germans were nice people forced into a war.
Some americans were total ans utter psychos.
(Not everything was sweetness and light back then, and not everyONE either)
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|X+/++ R+ tv+ b+ D G e>PhD h/h+ !r! !y-|I can't say F**K either now! >*SULK*<|
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From: coffee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RealPlayerG2 Download Link Correction
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 07:48:20 -0400
http://proforma.real.com/mario/player/player.html?s=1&language=English&speed=Pentium&dc=71630629&src=&name=John+Hopkins&email=john%40aol.com&country=US&platform=Red+Hat+5.2%2F6.0&connection=56+kbps+modem&product=¬ices=Yes
This is the full link to the page for RealplayerG2. The one I posted
seemed to be incorrect. ANyways, This is the link Netscape shows.
Sorry for the confusion.
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From: "Alexander F. Hartner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
ahn.tech.linux,alt.os.linux,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Network Installation
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 10:22:14 +0200
I am looking for the command to start the program where you configure your
network card. I have found linuxconf and netconfig (netconf / netcfg) which
assist you to configure the routing etc, but I am looking for the program to
setup the irq etc for my network card. Could you please help.
Thanks
Alex
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Duncan Simpson)
Subject: Re: pppd: "LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests"
Date: 2 Jul 1999 11:22:05 GMT
In <hHXe3.8142$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "H. Michael Smith, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>Hash: SHA1
>LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests (see <snip> from
>/var/log/messages @ bottom of post)
>Searching the HOWTO's, FAQ's, and the Net at large, I find this error
>message, but not a clear solution.
>I have tried various lines in my /etc/ppp/options.... i.e.:
>lcp-max-configure 50
>- -am
>- -all
>... and more ... to no avail... Any pointers will be greatly
>appreciated.
<rest snipped>
Been there and done several permutations of that. Connect using your
favorite text terminal program and record the prompts. Demon internet
is, wiht the things in [..] general omitted from the trigger strings,
[l]ogin: <your name here>
[Pa]ssword: <your secret here>
[Pr]otocol: ppp
then start talking ppp. My current ISP is
ogin: <my name>
ssword: <my password>
then start sending LCP requests. They use livingston portmasters and a
(linux) radius server. IT has changed about twice in quite a few years.
--
Duncan (-:
"software industry, the: unique industry where selling substandard goods is
legal and you can charge extra for fixing the problems."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Duncan Simpson)
Subject: Re: Script help - process checking
Date: 2 Jul 1999 11:26:53 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Christopher A. Gaul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>I'm trying to write a script that checks for a specific process and
>performs an action based on if it is running or not.
>For example, if I know that the name of the process I'm checking for is
>"myprocess", then how can I check for a value of true in a condition.
>Like "If (myprocess=running) then do whatever"
Although several solutions are possible the usual method is to use some
sort of scripting language (shell script and perl are probably the most
popular but use whatever you like) and parse the output of ps in
some simple-minded way. Extracting a field with sed of awk really and
getting into a shell variable is not exactly rocket science.
(Having said that something along the lines of "Learning the bash shell"
and a good book on sed and awk helps a lot. ORA will happily sell you both
and so will various other people.)
--
Duncan (-:
"software industry, the: unique industry where selling substandard goods is
legal and you can charge extra for fixing the problems."
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From: coffee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: /dev/dsp question
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 07:50:34 -0400
John Garrison wrote:
>
> Sometimes if a program crashes no other program can access /dev/dsp. Is
> there a way to fix this other than rebooting the machine?
Find the process id of the program associated with /dev/dsp and use the
kill command to kill the application. Like below:
fuser -v /dev/dsp [this will give the id of the program using it]
kill xxxx [x's represent the process id]
That should do it.
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From: Alessandro Magni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 10GB disk and LILO - I tried EVERYTHING!
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 15:26:39 +0200
Sorry if you already read about it many times, but I tried almost
everything I saw on USENET about this topic, and failed...
I got this WesternDigital 9GB disk.
Windows fdisk says it's only 8GB, but I know about the 1024 cylinder
problem, OK.
I reserved with FIPS 2GB to Win98, and went to RedHat5.2 install
No matter what I do in DiskDruid, I can't go beyond "L" at LILO boot,
-> geometry problem (LILO-HOWTO).
>From the floppy it boots OK, anyway.
I tried making a /boot (in /hda5, it seems to me), but no way.
I put "linear" in lilo.conf, but no way.
HOW can I put a boot partition inside the damned 1024cyl limit?
(By the way, diskdruid does not tell you where it creates its
partitions,
just how big they are).
Thank you for any help
Alessandro
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From: Alessandro Magni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 10GB disk and LILO - I tried EVERYTHING!
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 15:27:22 +0200
Sorry if you already read about it many times, but I tried almost
everything I saw on USENET about this topic, and failed...
I got this WesternDigital 9GB disk.
Windows fdisk says it's only 8GB, but I know about the 1024 cylinder
problem, OK.
I reserved with FIPS 2GB to Win98, and went to RedHat5.2 install
No matter what I do in DiskDruid, I can't go beyond "L" at LILO boot,
-> geometry problem (LILO-HOWTO).
>From the floppy it boots OK, anyway.
I tried making a /boot (in /hda5, it seems to me), but no way.
I put "linear" in lilo.conf, but no way.
HOW can I put a boot partition inside the damned 1024cyl limit?
(By the way, diskdruid does not tell you where it creates its
partitions,
just how big they are).
Thank you for any help
Alessandro
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From: Nicolas Anquetil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Please HELP: sending email from RH6.0
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 09:22:37 -0400
Hi,
I have just installed RH6.0
I have a PPP account (dynamic IP) with my university which is working.
I can send emails with netscape using the mail server of the university
(SMTP).
I want to be able to send email from my computer to my university
account with the "mail" program (not netscape). Basically, I want my
computer to connect PPP automatically and then send me the (dynamic) IP
address so that I can log on it from the university.
I read the Mail-HOWTO (twice, went through the "Linux Network
Administrators' Guide", through the BIND documentation, through
Networking-Overview-HOWTO.
I still can't figure it out !
What should I do? Do I need to give a name to my computer (other than
localhost), a domain (other than localdomain) ? How do I do this ?
Please help.
I am willing to summarize answers for those interested or even to
propose a draft of a new introductary section for the mail-HOWTO (with
all due respect to the author, it seems to me this is missing).
--
Nicolas ANQUETIL Research Associate/Associ� de
recherche
Knowledge Based Reverse Engineering Univ. of/d'Ottawa
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: (1) (613) 562-5800 x6688
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From: "Ted George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: corrupt file on e2fs
Date: 2 Jul 1999 13:06:41 GMT
hello,
i have a redhat 5.2 scsi system. recently experienced a few scsi errors,
and ran e2fsck to fix. everything looks fine except 1 file entry which
looks like this
cr--rwxr-- 1 20292 12079 84, 72 Dec 19 2008 filename
a stat for this filename shows a character special entry. this was a
directory entry before the problems began. any attempt to change
permissions, move, etc. respond with "Operation not permitted"
does anyone know how to remove this entry short of recreating the file
system. thanks in advance.
ted
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From: "M. KOUBITI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: problem with graphic card S3 86 C368
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 16:03:11 +0100
Hi every body,
I have just installed Linux RedHat 6. But when configuring the Xfree
Window, it does not work because my card reference is not in the list. My
graphic card is an S3 Trio3D 2X and exacly a C368 Series. Does anyone know a
way to solve this problem other than buying a new card.
Thank you.
M. KOUBITI
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew W. Roberts)
Subject: Re: Apache Restart
Date: 2 Jul 1999 08:46:27 -0500
On my debian system, I restart Apache with:
/etc/init.d/apache restart
Matt
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You know that feeling when you're leaning back on a stool and
it starts to tip over? Well, that's how I feel all the time.
-- Steven Wright
In article <7li751$dus$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Tim Woodcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Can anyone tell me why I get this error when I type the command:
>
>httpd stop
>
>error message: sqlinit DBROOT must be set !!!
>
>I just need to restart Apache web server.
>
>I have tried using the suggested kill -TERM 'cat /var/run/httpd.pid' (the
>location of my pid file) but linux complains that the pid does not exist.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Tim.
>
>
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From: Pat Traynor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FTP welcome message?
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 14:15:19 GMT
When I ftp into my server (slackware 98), after I log in, I get this
lengthy welcome message preceded by "230-" that is NOT of my machine.
I've looked in the FTP home direcory (/home/ftp), and there is no welcome
or README file anywhere to be found. Where is this file located?
Thanks for any help.
--pat--
--
Pat Traynor
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Bus Error at setup of Slackware 4.0
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 13:42:20 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mike Geiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> problem is, after i fdisk the drive(s - I've tried many) i run setup
and
> the console just sits there repeating "Bus error", after about 10
lines it
configure and activate the disk swap partition after fdisk but before
running setup.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: Barry Flanagan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Dell Inspiron compatibility? What is best laptop?
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 16:49:19 +0100
"David J. Topper" wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I've run Linux on desktop machines since kernel 1.0.x. I also use it in
> our lab. The time has come, however, to explore laptop issues. My
> employer has a deal with Dell, which offers competative discounts for
> laptops. I must say that the Dell Inspiron line looks pretty good!
>
> I'd love to hear comments / get input from folks. I've already
> contacted the OSS folks about audio support, but have yet to hear. I'm
> of course concerned about support for various components like the 3com
> combo 56k + 10/100 that comes with the Dell. DVD? PCMCIA? Video Card?
>
Hi,
Have an i7000 and it works very well with Linux, with the following
caveats:
1. Yes, you do have to "downgrade" the BIOS to 0.6 to get X working
2. You will need a patched X server
3. The sound is not supported, except by OSS's beta commercial drivers,
and they are still beta
4. Some flakyness around power management, particularly to do with
PCMCIA ethernet (I have the 3Com 575 CardBus)
You will get most of the help you need from:
http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~steveh/inspiron/ thanks to Steve Hsieh.
All in all, I'm happy with the machine. The 15" screen is a joy, and
once the sound is sorted it will be great.
Hope this helps.
--
-Barry Flanagan
Creative & Technical Director
DigiServe Ltd. Dublin, Ireland
Tel: +353 (0)1 855-4321
Fax: +353 (0)1 817-0643
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From: Jonathan Guthrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: internet connection with Linux
Date: 2 Jul 1999 13:15:18 GMT
In comp.os.linux.networking Frank Waarsenburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Reading the Q's and A's, my conclusion is that you connect to your ISP, get a
> (dynamic?) IP address, but then you don't set a route to it. Once the
> connection is established, type 'route' and check if there is a route to the
> internet. Most likely you have to add a line like "route add default dev
> kppp0" to your ip-up.local script.
You won't need to do that if you have the "defaultroute" option set for
the pppd. You can set this in the /etc/ppp/options file.
--
Jonathan Guthrie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Brokersys +281-895-8101 http://www.brokersys.com/
12703 Veterans Memorial #106, Houston, TX 77014, USA
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew W. Roberts)
Crossposted-To: comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: Changing the "From:" line
Date: 2 Jul 1999 08:41:57 -0500
I used to be a Berkeley mail guy too. Then I discovered mutt and
haven't looked back. Mutt will actually allow you to change
the From: line based on which mail file you are reading (and a
whole lot more...).
http://www.mutt.org/
FWIW,
Matt
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You can't have everything... where would you put it?
-- Steven Wright
In article <7lhrba$ik9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
David Chalmers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am setting up a new Linux system (with Red Hat 6.0). It has an
>awful domain name, and I'd like to use something simpler as my e-mail
>address. I've set things up so that incoming mail to
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] will forward to the new system. But I need to
>set things up so that my outgoing mail is seen by recipients as being
>from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (so the awful name is more or less
>transparent). Presumably this means setting up my mailer so that it
>automatically changes the "From:" line on my outgoing messages.
>Someone local told me how to do this with pine, elm, or Netscape mail,
>but they didn't know how to do it with standard Berkeley mail, which
>is what I use, and I couldn't find the answer in the obvious places.
>
>Question: How do I do this with Berkeley mail?
>
>--David Chalmers.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for now)
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From: "Frans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: ISPS
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 16:54:39 +0200
Darren Paxton wrote in message <7l7mgq$eg8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I am just posting this message to gauge some feedback from the Linux
>community in the world.
>Since Microsoft has the dominating share in the market of computing (I
>do not think anyone would doubt this statement), every ISP in the world
Computing and software are not one and the same.
>is generally based on Microsoft. As we all know, this is a very
They are not. My ISP for example runs everything on UNIX.
>annoying factor for those of us who wish to connect through our Linux
>boxes. The only way that we do connect is by hacking the dns servers
>and trying to find out from technical support what authentications are
>used, etc.
Is it so difficult to distinguish PAP and CHAP ?
>What I would like to ask you all, if any of your ISPs (and where they
>are based), FULLY support Linux. Personally, I have used Freeserve
Mine does not fully support, but has a lot of info and scripts to get
you going. Then again, I live in the Netherlands, so I don't think it's
useful for you :)
>Obviously, with the popularity of, and curiosity about Linux increasing
>all the time, does anyone feel, like I do, that its about time the ISPs
>start supporting Linux?
Hell yeah, everybody should, but the problem is trained personnel.
So all you new linux hackers can get really good jobs in a couple
of months if all goes well ;)
>just gave up. My idea is, wouldn't it be better if, when you want to
>connect to the ISP, they give you a CD, or even a disk, that contains
>the relevant scripting, or even a tar archive or an rpm with a dialer
>script.
Uhm, isn't all the fun about linux the figuring out yourself ? I mean,
yes it was nice to get scripts from my ISP, but I thank the gods that
they didn't work the first time, so I studied them and *understand*
them now, so I can fix my shit when something fucks up.
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