Linux-Misc Digest #961, Volume #20 Thu, 8 Jul 99 04:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Re: Linux jingle (Duncan Simpson)
Where is $PATH set in RH 6.0? (Bruce Fletcher)
Re: vpn (pptp) client for linux - how tomake it work? (Erik Steffl)
NTPowerd - a powerd-2.0 client for NT ("Brian Alliet")
Selecting GUIs? ("Brent Davies")
Re: Oops. Locked out :( (Gus Hartmann)
NTPowerd - a powerd-2.0 client for NT ("Brian Alliet")
Re: Oops. Locked out :( (Gus Hartmann)
Re: vesafb: Frame Buffer consoles (Tim Roberts)
sound problems (scable)
Re: format >2GB hard (Jon Splane)
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (Darren Winsper)
Re: Q for NFS guru (Tom Walsh)
Success... kinda' ("Michael Smith")
Re: Filesize larger than 2 GB on Intel machines an Linux 2.0.36 (Christopher Browne)
Re: unable to open /dev/sda1 ("m.nine.six")
Re: Linux vs Solaris (Peter Benie)
Re: grep (Martin A. Boegelund)
Re: Pronouncing "Linux" - your vote! ('Wulff)
Re: Sending dual boot machine for tech support ("M. Talley")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Duncan Simpson)
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux jingle
Date: 7 Jul 1999 15:01:56 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Darren Winsper) writes:
<other suggestions for a windows jungle appropiate to it's quality and how
pleasant it is to use>
>Nah, you want Strong by Robbie Williams (Sorry it had to come from
>such a...err...crap artist):
<bits of song snipped>
>...
>Life's too short to be afraid,
>Take a pill to numb the pain,
>You don't have to take the blame
IF you really want a windows jingle nothing really matches "The
Masochism tango" by a certain Tom Leher. Lots of things along the lines
of
<...>
Last time I needed twenty stitches
To sow up the gash to made with your lash
<...>
Robbie Williams really comes nowhere close to the level of pain
inflicted in this song. Sadly I can not think of a song on the same CD
describing M$ ethical trade practices, including their EULA (at least
some of which is illegal, plain and simple, in the UK).
--
Duncan (-:
"software industry, the: unique industry where selling substandard goods is
legal and you can charge extra for fixing the problems."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Fletcher)
Subject: Where is $PATH set in RH 6.0?
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 22:12:03 -0700
I have recently installed RedHat 6.0. One small problem I am having is
that the $PATH environment variable is a little absurd:
> echo $PATH
/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/home/bruce/Pytho
n-1.5.2:/home/bruce/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/home/bruce/Python-1.5.2:/home/bruce/
bin
(manually re-entered, but hopefully correct)
The only places I have found where PATH is set are in /etc/profile:
PATH="$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin"
and in .bash_profile:
PATH=$PATH:$HOME/Python-1.5.2:$HOME/bin
What else am I missing? How do I set up a clean PATH?
Thanks for any pointers,
- Bruce
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From: Erik Steffl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: vpn (pptp) client for linux - how tomake it work?
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 21:51:33 -0700
yeah, I've found it before (thanks anyway). however it only has very
brief instructions/docs and I can't make it work. there are parameters
that I simply do not know how to set, and what's maybe even more
important, I have no idea what's going on.
I will try more specific Q:
============== this is what I run (with proper host name):
bash-2.03# pptp vpn.host.com debug
(unknown)[1143]: log[pptp_dispatch_ctrl_packet:pptp_ctrl.c:531]: Client
connection established.
(unknown)[1143]: log[pptp_dispatch_ctrl_packet:pptp_ctrl.c:637]:
Outgoing call established.
bash-2.03#
============== /var/adm/messages:
Jul 7 21:41:14 jojda pppd[1145]: pppd 2.3.5 started by root, uid 0
Jul 7 21:41:14 jojda kernel: registered device ppp1
Jul 7 21:41:14 jojda pppd[1145]: Using interface ppp1
Jul 7 21:41:14 jojda pppd[1145]: Connect: ppp1 <--> /dev/ttya0
Jul 7 21:49:35 jojda pppd[1145]: Connection terminated.
Jul 7 21:49:36 jojda pppd[1145]: Exit.
============== /var/adm/debug
Jul 7 21:41:14 jojda pppd[1145]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap
0x0> <magic
0x93c927b6> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Jul 7 21:41:44 jojda last message repeated 6 times
Jul 7 21:42:44 jojda last message repeated 12 times
Jul 7 21:43:44 jojda last message repeated 12 times
Jul 7 21:44:44 jojda last message repeated 12 times
Jul 7 21:45:44 jojda last message repeated 12 times
Jul 7 21:46:45 jojda last message repeated 12 times
Jul 7 21:47:45 jojda last message repeated 12 times
it always sends some packets until it eventually gets disconected.
sometime I get some response from the other side, but it's disconnected
anyway.
any help appriciated, TIA
erik
Yan Seiner wrote:
>
> Do a web search for Scott Ananian. He has a PPTP client for linux on
> his web page.
>
> He's at MIT.
>
> Yan
>
> Erik Steffl wrote:
> >
> > guys,
> >
> > I would like to be able toconnectto my work computers using linux -
> > too bad they use ms vpn. there is a ppt client for windows but I wasn't
> > able to get it working - nor did I found anybody who was able to (yet).
> >
> > is there anybody out there who managed to connect linux client to ms
> > vpn server? and if yes - how?
> >
> > thanx in advance
> >
> > erik
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From: "Brian Alliet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: NTPowerd - a powerd-2.0 client for NT
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 00:15:50 -0400
Hi-
I just wrote this program called NTPowerd. It is a WinNT/9x program that
will properly shutdown an NT/9x machine if it is notified of a power failure
from a Linux machine running powerd. This is really only usefull if you have
a NT and a Linux machine on the same UPS and want them to shutdown
automatically when the power fails. (Which is my situation) This is only the
fifth C program I've written, the second Win32 C program and the first
program to do tcp/ip stuff so don't expect it to be a perfect program. All I
can say is, "works for me". For more information see this quick web page I
just wrote up at
http://www.brianweb.dyn.ez-ip.net/~brian/ntpowerd/
It would be really nice if someone experienced in Win32 programming could
look this over and tell me what they think. Also I was wondering if I should
try to get an announcement in c.o.l.a. It's not a Linux program, but it is
used with a Linux program. I really just want some opinions on my program.
It's the first program I've written that I've decided to release to the
public so I'm kinda new at this.
Thanks for any advice/help
-Brian
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From: "Brent Davies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Selecting GUIs?
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 05:37:19 GMT
I _know_ this is a lame question, but I'm not affraid to admit that I'm
still a beginner.
I just installed RH6 and Gnome was the default Xwindows GUI. I switched to
AfterStep (because I like it), but I noticed that there isn't a nice easy
(graphical) way to switch it back to Gnome.
How to I manually edit the Xwindows environment to reflect the fact that I'd
like the X Server to load Gnome instead of AfterStep?
Thanks!
-Brent
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From: Gus Hartmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Oops. Locked out :(
Date: 8 Jul 1999 05:26:47 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Ok, now that I've done that, how do I disable the ability to do that? ;)
> I don't want anyone else to be able to do that, and I won't need to do it
> again, since I'll be much more careful from now on :)
In the lilo.conf file, enter two lines like these:
restricted
password="CLEARTEXTPASSWORD"
> And yes, chsh is a new friend of mine :)
You may seriously want to reconsider changing root's shell away
from a Bourne-compatible shell. There are still some things that do
depend on this, and in the long run you'll be better off knowing both of
the major shell varients (Bourne and C).
--
Gus
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No, we don't keep backups of unimportant data.
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From: "Brian Alliet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: NTPowerd - a powerd-2.0 client for NT
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 00:15:50 -0400
Hi-
I just wrote this program called NTPowerd. It is a WinNT/9x program that
will properly shutdown an NT/9x machine if it is notified of a power failure
from a Linux machine running powerd. This is really only usefull if you have
a NT and a Linux machine on the same UPS and want them to shutdown
automatically when the power fails. (Which is my situation) This is only the
fifth C program I've written, the second Win32 C program and the first
program to do tcp/ip stuff so don't expect it to be a perfect program. All I
can say is, "works for me". For more information see this quick web page I
just wrote up at
http://www.brianweb.dyn.ez-ip.net/~brian/ntpowerd/
It would be really nice if someone experienced in Win32 programming could
look this over and tell me what they think. Also I was wondering if I should
try to get an announcement in c.o.l.a. It's not a Linux program, but it is
used with a Linux program. I really just want some opinions on my program.
It's the first program I've written that I've decided to release to the
public so I'm kinda new at this.
Thanks for any advice/help
-Brian
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From: Gus Hartmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Oops. Locked out :(
Date: 8 Jul 1999 05:22:43 GMT
Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On my system, it requires the root password. And while I haven't tried it,
> won't it still try to put him in the root account's shell?
If lilo has been configured using the "restricted" option, than
there is a password listed in /etc/lilo.conf that is required to boot
with *any* options passed manually. I certainly hope this isn't the same
as the root password on any system.
The other possibility about "boot single" is that the
distribution in question may use sulogin as the last rc script; this is
common practice in System V-style Unices. This will require the real
root password.
In either case, init should try to launch /bin/sh when running
in single-user mode. Try running strings on /sbin/init and look for the
string "sh".
Lastly, to answer the topic of the original poster: leave root
with a Bourne-compatible shell - there are some things that depend on
it. You can always exec another shell, but it's better to become
conversant in both major variants of shells. It's a lot like driving a
car; some people prefer an automatic transmission, others a manual. If
you want to be able to drive the overwhelming majority of cars, you need
to be able to drive either.
--
Gus
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Entropy isn't what it used to be.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Roberts)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: vesafb: Frame Buffer consoles
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 05:28:32 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow) wrote:
>Anybody using the VESA FB consoles feature? This works nifty, giving a
>graphical boot logo and all, but switching from X back to consoles
>breaks the consoles. :( Any tips for doing the switch successfully?
It shouldn't be a problem. Are you using XFree86 3.3.3.1? Which server?
I'm running the XF86_Mach64 server on my Dell Inspiron 7000 laptop with the
ATI Rage LT Pro 8MB. I use the VESA FB stuff to set the thing into
1024x768 mode at boot time, and I have the X server using the same mode.
Console switches are quite painless, mostly because they don't have to
change modes.
--
- Tim Roberts, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.
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From: scable <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: sound problems
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 00:31:57 -0500
Sorry if this message shows up twice. I'm having some networking
troubles.
But, to the point at hand .....
I have a Sound Blaster AWE64 card and am running RH6.0
There are alot of things I can't do with the sound, such as
1) play *.au files off of webpages, 2) play the *.wav files in the
desktop settings directories, 3) get audio out of Real Player
(though video works fine).
When I try 1), I get an error window saying "Can't open
/dev/dsp". 2) gives silence. 3) gives an error window that
says something like "Can't open sound device. May be
locked by aonother user."
i have tried using the fuser routine to see what might be
locking up /dev/dsp, but it just returns nothing.
I appreciate any ideas you might have about this.
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From: Jon Splane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.setup.win95,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.setup,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc,comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: format >2GB hard
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 10:56:26 -0700
Try this.
Boot from the Win98 floppy and enter FDISK /MBR to rewrite the master
boot record.
Run FDISK again and repartion the hard drive as you want it.
Install Win98 first then Linux.
Jon
Kamran Mohseni wrote:
>
> Hey guys;
>
> I have a HP pentium II 233MHz machine with 6GB hard disk. I Want to have
> both Windows and Linux on my machine. So I partitioned the system with
> 2.6GB (created as FAT32) for windows and 3.6GB for Linux. I've installed
> linux RH6.0 without any problem. The problem is that I can only format
> 2GB of my windows partition (I used the boot disk from Windows98 to
> format c). It doesnot let me to format more than 2GB. I used the
> command
>
> format c: /s
>
> Note that the size of the partitions are correct on fdisk. How can I
> format all of c:?
>
> send me an email at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Thanks.
>
> Kamran.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darren Winsper)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark?
Date: 8 Jul 1999 05:40:19 GMT
On 7 Jul 1999 18:48:36 GMT, Fredrich P. Maney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : I allways thaught that WW2 was a world war in the same way that the World
> : series base ball is only plaied in the US :)
>
> That has far more to do with the fact that Baseball was invented in the
> USA than any sort of national egotism.
You have a funny definition of invented. It looks more like a
derivative of rounders to me.
--
Darren Winsper - http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/darren.winsper
'"Whaddar we gonna do today Bill?" "The same thing we do every day,
Balmer...."' - Craig Kelly in comp.os.linux.advocacy
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From: Tom Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Q for NFS guru
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 06:33:28 GMT
Rob Lahaye wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I would like at bootup to mount from another machine the following directories:
>
> /usr
> /usr/local
> /home
>
> using NFS
>
> MAIN QUESTION: This means at the time the NFS procedure starts, there is no /usr
> available. Will that work?
>
> What precautions do I need to take when linking machines together
> in such a way? (I'm also thinking of using NIS).
>
> [ I'm running Redhat 6.0 with kernel 2.2.5 ]
>
> Thanks for help and advice,
>
> Rob
Try a 'man nfs', the first paragraph gives an example. Remember "unix is not just
an operating system, but it also teaches you to read"
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From: "Michael Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Success... kinda'
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 02:32:24 -0400
Thanks to all of you guys for the help!!! After 're-installing' these c
libs, make dep worked, but a few files were still not located. make bzImage
ran for a long time, then bombed with little indication as to why.
Well, I booted to my Caldera Lisa / fdd install img, and formatted by little
300MB hdd. To make a LONG story short I got base installed, recompiled
kernel with ipmasq support, etc. My LAN
(http://www.awtechnologies.net/mynet.html) has Internet access! There is
still some strangeness going on: many modules (that I did NOT select in make
config) attempt, and fail, to load. Everything that I intended to install
works fine, but from every filesystem supported to every 3com nic driver and
everything in between, all of these modules 'fail to load'.
Oh, well... my wife and I have shared access to the Net, and I have a new
challenge!
// Michael
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Filesize larger than 2 GB on Intel machines an Linux 2.0.36
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 00:00:30 GMT
On Wed, 07 Jul 1999 14:08:58 -0700, Patrick Letovsky
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I understand the 3 parts involved into the process, so I guess I'll
>need to move to a 64 bits OS. I'm gonna use an irix box to do this job.
I would expect the issue to be resolved over the next year or perhaps
2 years at worst, particularly as 64 bit platforms become more
commonplace.
Furthermore, it looks like the relevant code *is* getting into GLIBC
2.1, which means that it shouldn't take infinite time for it to become
usable at user level.
--
Rules of the Evil Warlord #36. "Even though I don't really care
because I plan on living forever, I will hire engineers who are able
to build me a fortress sturdy enough that, if I am slain, it won't
tumble to the ground for no good structural reason."
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/alpha.html>
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From: "m.nine.six" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: unable to open /dev/sda1
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 08:47:24 +0200
perhaps your scsi controller isn't right configured as module or in the
kernel.
have a nice day,
alias m.nine.six....
Patrick wrote:
>
> when i type
> fdisk /dev/sda1
>
> it showed me:
> unable to open /dev/sda1
>
> why?
>
> --
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Benie)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: Linux vs Solaris
Date: 5 Jul 1999 23:57:15 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm building a mission-critical high throughput OLTP application which
>required considerable scalability. I'm trying to choose between Linux and
>Solaris for the operating system.
Understanding how well your application scales will require a detailed
knowledge of its design and how the application interacts with the
operating system. The choice of operating system should definately not
be your first question.
Peter
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From: Martin A. Boegelund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: grep
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 06:59:19 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> You can get a package, rktools.
Where? Is it "the real" grep? Redirection of output in Windows isn't
very easy...
>
> On Wed, 07 Jul 1999 12:56:51 GMT, Martin A. Boegelund
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Hi.
> >
> >Does anyone here know a command/tool for Windows that does the same
> >thing as the UNIX command grep?
>
>
--
==================
Mr Sparkle - Aka Martin A. Boegelund
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ('Wulff)
Subject: Re: Pronouncing "Linux" - your vote!
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 06:46:30 GMT
On 07 Jul 1999 18:31:07 -0400, Johan Kullstam
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrotf:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger) writes:
>
>> On 07 Jul 1999 13:36:56 -0400, Johan Kullstam wrote:
>> >> Usual German pronounciation is Leenooks, though I think I recall
>> >> having heard Lynooks, too.
>> >
>> >i have to agree with normal german pronounciation - LEE-nucks. that's
>> >how linus pronounces it btw.
>>
>> Perhaps in German, but in English, there are no rules for pronouncing
>> an 'i' that would result in the 'EE' sound.
>
>perhaps the problem is really that, in english, there are no rules for
>pronouncing <full-stop>
>
>> An 'i' can be soft ('ih') or hard ('eye') sounding. Not 'EE'.
>
>sure it can. the name lisa for example. a whole truckload of words
>ending in -ia. mania, lusitania, austria.
>
>> I've always pronounced it with a soft 'i', resulting in 'lih-nooks'.
>
>well, i've always pronounced it like linus does on his audio
>sound-byte so there.
>
>> Linus is Norwegian, I beleive, so obviously he'd pronounce it differently
>> than I (a Canuck) would.
>
>only for swedish-speaking finish values of norwegian. you realize
>that saying he's norwegian is kind of like saying a francophone
>quebecer is a yankee.
>
>> As the saying goes; "You say 'to-may-toe', I say 'to-mah-toe'..."
>
>and being a canuck, you probably say aboot when you mean about ;-)
I gotta ask......Where does everyone get this "aboot" stuff from?
I've been a Canucklehead for 30+ years and the only time i've heard
anything remotely close to the pronunciation is from a Newfie
(Newfoundland)
But that's like saying ALL yanks talk like Nyew Yawkahs........ ; )
'Wulff
How to recognize a Redneck.....
Only one long branch in his family tree.
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From: "M. Talley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Re: Sending dual boot machine for tech support
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 21:07:58 -0400
Dell has you remove the hard drive and any memory before sending back. I
have never had Dell ask me about space on my hard drive in trouble shooting.
It is interesting you say all of this about Gateway.
toby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >Its a dual boot (win98 + Linux) machine. In the event that I have to
> >mail this back
> >to Gateway, will they create problems on finding that Linux has been
> >installed
> >on the machine??
>
> Yes, so don't tell them. And if they ask you how much space your harddrive
> has tell them 4.3GB not how much WIN98 reports. They got a friend of mine
> on his dual-booter this way. If you are sending it off, they will not work
> on it.
>
>
>
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