Linux-Misc Digest #970, Volume #20 Thu, 8 Jul 99 20:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (Miguel Cruz)
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (Darren Winsper)
E-tech bullet 56K PCI modem ("Henk Toorman")
Re: system.map ("Ricky J. Sethi")
embedded computers (Brett Alexander)
Re: Selecting GUIs? (Shahms King)
Re: Pronouncing "Linux" - your vote! (Johan Kullstam)
Re: ANSI term type in linux doesn't behave properly? (Peter Caffin)
Re: Linux vs. Unix (Peter Caffin)
Re: E-tech bullet 56K PCI modem ("JohnnyM")
Re: If rsh works and rcp doesn't: check this (U.V. Ravindra)
Re: New users (Johan Kullstam)
Re: time of day clock drift ("R.A. Wilson")
Re: Nothing in Telnet (Edward Murrell)
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Miguel Cruz)
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 19:51:28 GMT
Fredrich P. Maney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well considering that outside of Japan, to my knowledge the US and
> Canada are the only places where Baseball is played. The governing
> bodies of Baseball are in the US, most of the players/teams/fans
> are in the US.
You're going to have to be the one who breaks that to Fidel Castro.
miguel
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darren Winsper)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark?
Date: 8 Jul 1999 19:51:25 GMT
On 8 Jul 1999 16:23:48 GMT, Fredrich P. Maney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : You have a funny definition of invented. It looks more like a
> : derivative of rounders to me.
>
> And "rounders" would be?
Go look it up, I can't be bothered to describe it. Suffice it to say,
it's a "girl's" sport.
--
Darren Winsper - http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/darren.winsper
'"Whaddar we gonna do today Bill?" "The same thing we do every day,
Balmer...."' - Craig Kelly in comp.os.linux.advocacy
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From: "Henk Toorman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.linux.xxx,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: E-tech bullet 56K PCI modem
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:08:19 +0200
It is possible to use the E-tech bullet 56k PCI modem in Linux?
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Ricky J. Sethi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: system.map
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 12:38:13 -0700
Along these lines, does anyone know about the module-info file? Does that
need to be changed also when doing an update (e.g., from 2.2.5 to 2.2.10)?
Thanks,
Rick.
Sigurdur Hannesson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
> I have just installed a new kernel (2.2.9) and all is well until I
> reboot the machine it complaines about the system.map referencing
> a different version. The system.map points to system.map-2.2.5-15
> which is the original kernel(RedHat 6.0). I have changed kernels often
but
> this error is a first. I did all the ordinary things(make mrproper, make
> xfonfig,
> make dep, make clean, make bzImage, make modules, make modules_install,
> vi /etc/lilo.conf, lilo).
> Any ideas??
>
> regards,
> Siggi
>
>
>
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From: Brett Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: embedded computers
Date: 8 Jul 1999 20:30:55 GMT
Hello I am Computer Engineering student and for my senior design project I
am using the Explorer II microcontroller (EXPLRII) to interface with a
desktop computer, through the serial port. I was wondering if Linux could
be used as a viable operating system for the embedded computer. If anyone
has any valuable advice it would most helpful. Thank you.
Brett
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From: Shahms King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Selecting GUIs?
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 16:30:03 -0700
Brent Davies wrote:
>
> I _know_ this is a lame question, but I'm not affraid to admit that I'm
> still a beginner.
>
> I just installed RH6 and Gnome was the default Xwindows GUI. I switched to
> AfterStep (because I like it), but I noticed that there isn't a nice easy
> (graphical) way to switch it back to Gnome.
>
> How to I manually edit the Xwindows environment to reflect the fact that I'd
> like the X Server to load Gnome instead of AfterStep?
>
> Thanks!
> -Brent
I know RedHat includes a utility called "switchdesk" for doing just
that. It can only switch between GNOME, KDE, and AnotherLevel though.
--Shahms King
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Subject: Re: Pronouncing "Linux" - your vote!
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 08 Jul 1999 18:51:18 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ('Wulff) writes:
> I gotta ask......Where does everyone get this "aboot" stuff from?
> I've been a Canucklehead for 30+ years and the only time i've heard
> anything remotely close to the pronunciation is from a Newfie
> (Newfoundland)
i had no idea toronto was in newfoundland!
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: Peter Caffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ANSI term type in linux doesn't behave properly?
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 04:18:52 +0800
T.E.Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Peter Caffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> SCO ANSI != Real ANSI.
> oh. which one is "Real ANSI"?
Whichever one matches the American National Standards Institute's
specifications best, of course. There *must* be one, surely.. surely? ;)
> (I have a list of those that aren't ;-)
But then SCO's ANSI just seems that much more broken than the rest of
them. Point taken, though ;).
--: _ _ _ _
_oo__ |_|_ |__ _ | _ |_|_o _ peter at ptcc dot it dot net dot au |
//`'\_ | (/_|(/_| |_(_|| | || | http://it.net.au/~pc |
/ PO Box 869, Hillarys WA 6923, AUSTRALIA |
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From: Peter Caffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux vs. Unix
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 04:15:00 +0800
Chris Raper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Jul 1999 19:03:50 +0800, Peter Caffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
[...]
> True - but then again if you are putting it down on what is really
> 'legacy' hardware then you are probably doing it for home use etc. A
I think you'd be surprised. A lot of ISPs will supply UNIX gateway type
machines. They tend to be low spec PCs (old 486s) since all they're
really doing is managing a small proxy server and the dialup networking
connection, perhaps even manage email for the company. Linux would handle
these tasks pretty easily. A current-day SCO on a 486 would not handle
these tasks well at all.
> business wanting a UNIX-type server to run a database etc is likely to
> be able to scrape together a reasonably high spec machine.
Yup, you'd need a high spec machine for just about any serious database
sort of job.
> Even then,
> you don't need as high a spec as say Windows/NT 4.0 - that really
> sucks the power out of hardware!
I'd prefer SCO to NT *grin*
> I agree here - SCO has always seemed very pricey to me - but then
> again I have never had to buy it myself. I run 'Free SCO' at home to
> play about with but at work I just use installations that have been
> bought by businesses.
My last job involved (amongst other things) supporting SCO boxen running
POS and accounting software for fast food stores. Quite a range of hardware
and OS versions out there. There was also the development server which was
running SCO as well, though thankfully, I only had to touch it when the
head programmer was away :).
> In the latter environment you want a machine
> that installs quickly and is simple to upgrade / administer.
I think that's more a familiarity issue than anything else. I found Linux
made more sense to me and was more consistent. But then, if SCO was what
I'd started with, SCO would probably feel more "right" ;).
> I haven't anything else to compare SCO with. Does Linux out perform an
> OS like Openserver 5 - given identical, reasonably high-spec hardware?
I'd say yes, but, I haven't done any benchmarking. I think testing OSes
on lower-order hardware often exposes what might otherwise appear in-
significant performance differences. It definitely feels slower and more
clunky under SCO.
>>I managed to install Openserver 5.04 onto a 486DX2-66 with 16M RAM and
>>then dropped its RAM to 12M afterwards.
> Yowee - that's pushing it a bit - you have my congratulations! :-)
*grin* The install itself won't allow you to proceed unless you've got
16M RAM (although I did hear tell of some sort of patch for this), but,
the limit doesn't exist afterwards; swap is enabled. At 12M RAM, though,
you even fart and the harddrive grinds away incessantly.
> Yep - it will do. The old SCO OS3 (3.2.4.2) would do a lot better I
> think.
Yes, but, tracking down a copy would be difficult even if you were willing
to take the risk of having known security holes on your box (this is true
of *any* older version of *any OS).
> True - price would make the decision for you every time - unless you
> are a big business and just want it to go in and work first time with
> simple admin & upgrade thereafter.
IME, Debian's package management systems really are far superior to SCO's
upgrading methods. A greater number of upgrade source options (FTP, CDROM,
etc).
> Companies are willing to pay that
> little bit extra for both OS and hardware if their jobs are on the
> line.
I think that's the thing: there are companies out there for whom only a
proprietory OS is a "safe decision". It gives them someone to blame when
things aren't working so they won't get fired themselves.
It also helps that, in general, the support you get from SCO is.. um..
really not worth mentioning, if what I've heard about them is true ;).
> At home we are a little bit more forgiving and often willing to
> spend more time to get something to work - just for the fun of it.
There are some things that I do like about SCO, though. For one, their
X11 window manager is nice. There's good integration of their toolboxes
for adjusting configuration. It's a user-interface thing that they've
got on their side. But, overall, it doesn't begin to make up for the
other stuff ;).
Take care.
Peter.
--: _ _ _ _
_oo__ |_|_ |__ _ | _ |_|_o _ peter at ptcc dot it dot net dot au |
//`'\_ | (/_|(/_| |_(_|| | || | http://it.net.au/~pc |
/ PO Box 869, Hillarys WA 6923, AUSTRALIA |
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From: "JohnnyM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.linux.xxx,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: E-tech bullet 56K PCI modem
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:39:07 +0200
Henk Toorman heeft geschreven in bericht
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>It is possible to use the E-tech bullet 56k PCI modem in Linux?
>
Nee Henk, thats a "winmodem"
John Meeuwsen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (U.V. Ravindra)
Subject: Re: If rsh works and rcp doesn't: check this
Date: 08 Jul 1999 15:47:19 -0700
AFAIK this happens in all [sh, ksh, csh, tcsh, bash, zsh] shells.
BTW, why are you stty'ing erase to ^H unconditionally? You ought to
do that only for interactive shells, no?
--
Ravindra.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Allen Ashley) writes:
> Surprising, but your .bashrc file may be the problem. I had
> a line:
> stty erase ^H
> in my .bashrc and that prevented the file transfer from
> taking place. I got an error message in response to the
> rcp command, the file seemed to be transferred, but it
> just disappeared. Taking the stty line out of the .bashrc
> fixed the problem.
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Subject: Re: New users
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 08 Jul 1999 19:19:20 -0400
Ean W-S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I want to add users using a script giving them a default password is
> this possible with RedHat 6.0
yes. make a user. change his password to your default word. look in
/etc/passwd or /etc/shadow for the password entry. save this entry.
by giving this password entry to someone else, they should have the
same password.
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: "R.A. Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: time of day clock drift
Date: 08 Jul 1999 16:36:58 PDT
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I saw your post in linux.misc and am including an attachment
you can use. It's called netdate. It will automatically
synchronize your clock with two known sources outside your
system. I use my ISP, deltanet.com, and also netcom.com as
my external clocks. I put a short script in cron to run every
morning to keep my PC's clock accurate.
This is the syntax to use: netdate deltanet.com netcom.com
Sorry it's not in RPM format, but you can untar it, make, and
then put the binary in /usr/sbin.
-roy wilson-
On 4 Jul 1999, L J Bayuk wrote:
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >red hat 5.2
> >kernel 2.0.36
> >
> >My clock drifts pretty bad. I found a file: /etc/adjtime which
> >contains the one line: 0.0 0 0.0
> >
> >man adjtime yields nothing. I am assuming this file can be configured
> >to correct for clock drift.
> >
> >Is this correct? and if so, what do the three values mean/do ?
>
> Check out man 8 clock. The adjtime file is used by clock -a and is
> explained in that manual page. By the way, you are probably
> better off using xntpd if possible to keep your clock accurate.
>
>
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From: Edward Murrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Nothing in Telnet
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 15:14:22 +1200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Um, thanks for replying, but I just got it going about five mins ago. =/
Anyway, if your interested, I stuck the name and IP of the win95 box
in my /etc/hosts file.
Seems to have fixed that problem and the one with smbmount I was having.
Thanks for your time though,
Cheers,
Edward.
Matt Templeton wrote:
> Do you know if you have telnetd (in.telnetd) running? A quick check
> would be to, from the Linux box, telnet to 127.0.0.1 then there is a
> good chance that telnetd is not running.
>
> Edward Murrell wrote:
> >
> > I've got a small problem with my Win95 box telneting into my linux box,
> > After some fiddling with the hosts.allow & hosts.deny files I can open a
> > telnet
> > window from my Win95 box on my linux host (previously, the connection
> > would
> > be denied) but I don't get anything coming back, zip, nada, not even an
> > echo of
> > my text.
> > I'm using Debian 2.1 running Linux 2.0.36. The connection is a ethernet
> > based, which
> > works (they can ping each other without any problems?)
> >
> > Can somone tell me where to look for a mannual/HOWTO on this or what to
> > do to get it running?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Edward.
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