Linux-Misc Digest #315, Volume #21                Fri, 6 Aug 99 22:13:12 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Backup main disk on second disk? (Juergen Heinzl)
  Re: PPP Problems (Frank Hahn)
  LAPACK and/or BLAS (Eduardo Cuansing)
  Re: Must root and swap partitions be primary? (William Burrow)
  Re: ICQ (was Re: in response (Larry Clark)
  Re: Newbie: canceling a print job (William Burkett)
  Re: Have you heard? (Keith Brown)
  printk ??? ("Hung P. Tran")
  Re: Linux users group in Kansas City area - can't find one ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Printer Canon BJC-2000 (Romain Brette)
  Re: Have you heard? (John Hasler)
  my squid is cantankerous ("jdm")
  Cant get Viper770 to work in X-Windows (Gnome) ("JMNugent")
  /etc/bashrc file (Jose)
  Re: ANNOUNCE: KDevelop 1.0 Beta1 released (Rod Roark)
  GNOME log-out ("Mark J Cavage")
  Re: Linux and NT on one system....help!!! (Young4ert)
  SEXY STUFF 86374 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Power Failures & Linux ? ("Art S. Kagel")
  Re: Gateway ISP - no DNS IP's ?!? ("Ronald V. Casberg")
  Re: CD-ROM not playing audio CDs ("Thomas S. Manley")

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: Backup main disk on second disk?
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 22:36:57 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Richard F. wrote:
>I have a system with two 9 gig scsi disks.  Right now I have a script
>that copies the main disk to the second every night so I can easily
>recover files if I ever want to.
>
>I'd like to take this to the next level and have a plan...  will this
>work?
>
>I want to install linux on the second disk in exactly the same way
>that it is installed on the first disk, same filesystems and all.
>Then every night I want to use cpio to sync all the files on the
>second disk to those on the first disk.  The goal is, in the event
>that something horrible happened to the first disk, I would be able to
>unplug it and boot from the second with *absolutely no other
>modifications.*
>
>Could it work like this?

Sure, although if you're lucky you end up with a head crash on
both disks (power failure) or both go up in smoke due to some power
spike. Aside from that if you need something of two weeks ago you lose.
In short you might want to set up a software raid system, would spare
you the copying around, but this has got nothing to do with backing up.

I'd rather, okay ... it is the way it works here, distribute my stuff
over two disks (faster) and mirror / every now and again to a partition
on the second disk (do not forget to modify fstab).

Ta',
Juergen

-- 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Hahn)
Subject: Re: PPP Problems
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 13:17:56 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 05 Aug 1999 12:24:58 -0500, Jesse Keeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have read through the PPP-HOWTO numerous times and followed and edited
>
What did a search of http://www.deja.com show?


>scripts beyond belief. I am using Slackware 3.6 with 2.0.35. I have
>gotten PPP to work along with IP MASQ before, but I am now switching
>ISP's. The new ISP does not use PAP or CHAP. I followed the directions
>given in the pppsetup utility that comes packaged with Slackware 3.6.
>The script seems to connect to the server fine, it looks for
>"ogin:--ogin:" and passes my username and then looks for "assword:" and
>passes the password along. Then a serial connection is established and
>ppp0 is to be connected to /dev/cua0. At this point, pppd says that
>"Serial line is looped back." and the connection is terminated and pppd
>exits. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
This comes directly from the FAQ included with the pppd source file:

========================================================================

Q: When I try to establish a connection, I get an error message saying
"Serial line is looped back".  Why?

A: Probably your connection script hasn't successfully dialled out to
the remote system and invoked ppp service there.  Instead, pppd is
talking to something which is just echoing back the characters it
receives.  The -v option to chat can help you find out what's going
on.  It can be useful to include "~" as the last expect string to
chat, so chat won't return until it's seen the start of the first PPP
frame from the remote system.

Another possibility is that your phone connection has dropped for some
obscure reason and the modem is echoing the characters it receives
from your system.

========================================================================

The source file can be downloaded from here:

ftp://cs.anu.edu.au/pub/software/ppp/

People ask this question frequently.  Try a search of
http://www.deja.com for "Serial line is looped back" and I bet you
will get many solutions.

Basically your chat script is not working properly.

-- 
Frank Hahn

What this country needs is a good five cent ANYTHING!

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From: Eduardo Cuansing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: LAPACK and/or BLAS
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 18:01:27 -0500
Reply-To: Eduardo Cuansing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi,

Has anyone tried using LAPACK and/or BLAS under RH Linux (kernel 2.2.5)? 
I'm using the RPM versions but can't seem to compile codes that call one
of the LAPACK subroutines.  There appears to be missing files...

I also tried the versions from Netlib but the problems become worse.

Thanks,
Ed




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Must root and swap partitions be primary?
Date: 6 Aug 1999 23:00:36 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 06 Aug 1999 14:21:13 +0800,
Hankel O'Fung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> You *can* put LILO on a logical partition, but not an extended partition. 
>> You can't write data to an extended partition.
>
>Hmmm, any third party wants to discuss who is right?

ISFAIK, the extended partition is just a container for logical partitions.
It is supposed to be possible to put a Linux boot partition in a logical
partition, though I've never bothered -- at least three primary partitions
are always available, because you can only have one extended partition.

>> and I'm pretty sure you can
>> have more than four logical partitions within the extended partition.
>
>Again, who is right?

You can theoretically have up to 59 partitions in your extended
partition with a standard DOS partition table on Intel hardware with an
IDE disk on a Linux system.  SCSI cannot have as many partitions.  This
is due to the minor number layout of the respective devices.

Just as a quick test, I repartitioned my swap space:  here is the output
from fdisk:

Disk /dev/hda: 128 heads, 63 sectors, 782 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 8064 * 512 bytes

   Device Boot   Start      End   Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1            1       18    72544+   6  DOS 16-bit >=32M
/dev/hda2           19       33    60480   83  Linux native
/dev/hda3           34      782  3019968    5  Extended
/dev/hda5           34      211   717664+  83  Linux native
/dev/hda6          212      503  1177312+  83  Linux native
/dev/hda7          529      782  1024096+  83  Linux native
/dev/hda8          504      505     8032+  83  Linux native
/dev/hda9          506      507     8032+  83  Linux native
/dev/hda10         508      509     8032+  83  Linux native
/dev/hda11         510      511     8032+  83  Linux native
/dev/hda12         512      513     8032+  83  Linux native
/dev/hda13         514      515     8032+  83  Linux native
/dev/hda14         516      517     8032+  83  Linux native
/dev/hda15         518      519     8032+  83  Linux native
/dev/hda16         520      521     8032+  83  Linux native
/dev/hda17         522      523     8032+  83  Linux native
/dev/hda18         524      525     8032+  83  Linux native
/dev/hda19         526      527     8032+  83  Linux native
/dev/hda20         528      528        0+  83  Linux native


As you can see, there are far more than just four logical partitions in
the extended partition.  Hmm, wonder if that last entry is a bug in
fdisk?



-- 
William Burrow  --  New Brunswick, Canada             o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow                     ~  /\
                                                ~  ()>()

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From: Larry Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: ICQ (was Re: in response
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 15:46:58 -0700

actually I did get klicq to work...what I did was I wiped my disk clean,
reinstalled caldera and went straight to the linux ICQ page and got
klicq ...since I had good luck with licq on my redhat box I tried this
for kde, which work very nicely......thansk for asking...larry

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From: William Burkett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie: canceling a print job
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 17:02:52 -0500

"Drew A. Dunn" wrote:

> Is there a way to purge the print spool?

lpq to list current jobs, then lprm the job you want to delete.  Only
root can purge an entire queue of jobs that belong to other people.


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From: Keith Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux.slackware,alt.sex.fetish.linux,be.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.security,esp.comp.so.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Have you heard?
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 18:10:23 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Nathan Neal wrote:

> Microsoft challenges hackers to break into Windows 2000
>
> In a controversial move, Microsoft Corporation has made one of its Windows
> 2000 Servers on the Internet available to hackers, inviting people to
> attempt to break in. The goal: To make Windows 2000 as industrial strength
> as possible. The company says it is looking for any "magic bullet" attacks
> that can kill it, and has asked hackers to follow some simple rules so that
> they can determine the validity of any attacks. Since the server went online
> Tuesday morning, it has yet to be hacked.
>
> Feel you've got the right stuff?  Head on over to
> http://www.windows2000test.com and find out.
>
> Note: At the time of this writing, the server was unavailable, but its
> expected to be back up soon.

What an ingenius plan.  It can't be hacked if it's down!

--
Keith Brown
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Nathan Neal wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Microsoft challenges hackers to break into Windows
2000
<p>In a controversial move, Microsoft Corporation has made one of its Windows
<br>2000 Servers on the Internet available to hackers, inviting people
to
<br>attempt to break in. The goal: To make Windows 2000 as industrial strength
<br>as possible. The company says it is looking for any "magic bullet"
attacks
<br>that can kill it, and has asked hackers to follow some simple rules
so that
<br>they can determine the validity of any attacks. Since the server went
online
<br>Tuesday morning, it has yet to be hacked.
<p>Feel you've got the right stuff?&nbsp; Head on over to
<br><a href="http://www.windows2000test.com">http://www.windows2000test.com</a>
and find out.
<p>Note: At the time of this writing, the server was unavailable, but its
<br>expected to be back up soon.</blockquote>
What an ingenius plan.&nbsp; It can't be hacked if it's down!
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From: "Hung P. Tran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: printk ???
Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 00:01:33 GMT

I am having trouble getting printk to work in my driver.
I tried:

printk(KERN_CRIT "start of init_module\n");

It's NOT working. I also get a warning when compiling my driver:

warning: implicit declaration of function printk_R1d7b4074

Any idea what happened ???

Thank you in advance,

hung




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux users group in Kansas City area - can't find one
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 15:09:22 GMT

In article <37ab5478.23235937@news-server>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Does anyone know of a linux users group in the Kansas City area?

http://kclug.org/
http://www.kulua.org/

I found these at http://www.linux.org/users/index.html

-- Moravia


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

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From: Romain Brette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Printer Canon BJC-2000
Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 02:36:55 +0200

I just bought a new printer, Canon BJC-2000 (a recent model I think),
and I doesn't work with Linux. I read the HowTo, though, but Linux tells
me that there's nothing on my parallel port ! It works with Windows,
though, which is a bit annoying.
Do you whether it's a just a problem of configuration or that it's just
not supported by Linux ?
Thanks

--
Romain Brette
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: Have you heard?
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 23:32:58 GMT

Justin writes:
> But Windows 2000 test server appears to have crashed without any help.

How do you know it had no help?  Seems to me that forcing it down in such a
way as to leave Microsoft with the impression it crashed on its own would
be much more amusing than merely cracking it.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI

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From: "jdm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: my squid is cantankerous
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 19:11:30 -0500

I've had SuSE up and running for about a month now.  Once in a while I
would get a "failed" message during init from the www proxy squid, but
I could always get it to come up by restarting.

But in the last 2 days it has started failing repeatedly, no matter
how many times I restart.  If I try to start it from the command line
as root, it just prints "FATAL:  Can't find HTTP port" or something to
that effect 5 times and then quits.  I can't find any documentation on
squid, and the help screen isn't much help.  I've looked in
squid.conf, and I can't find one single line in the entire file that
is uncommented.

Can anyone point me to some documentation and troubleshooting info on
squid?  Or even better, tell me what's wrong?

jdm




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From: "JMNugent" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Cant get Viper770 to work in X-Windows (Gnome)
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 18:53:23 -0600

Anybody gotten the Diamond Viper770 to work in X-Windows. I got XF86Setup
installed via the RPM,...but I've tried all kinds of configs and none seem
to work
I keep getting the following error (even with plain VGA)

_X11 TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't Connect : errno = 111
_X11 TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't Connect : errno = 111
_X11 TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't Connect : errno = 111
_X11 TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't Connect : errno = 111
_X11 TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't Connect : errno = 111



etc,etc,etc.......
On other occasions I've got X-Windows to start, but its all big and blocky
(320x200), it looks like for some reason it decides not to like my Viper and
just uses SVGA.....


anyone???......THANKS,......BTW--(I've put about 8hours into this
already,...I'm about ready to uninstall RedHat all together....


Frustrated.....jason



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jose)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: /etc/bashrc file
Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 00:57:49 GMT

I know that the /etc/bashrc file can be used if the for "system wide"
initializing before the person logs into the the system, but is there
a file I can use for when the person logs out?  I don't want to use
the files that are in the person's home directory.  

Thanks for any advice

Jose

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From: Rod Roark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: KDevelop 1.0 Beta1 released
Date: 7 Aug 1999 00:58:50 GMT

Sandy Meier - DI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>KDevelop 1.0 - The KDE Development Environment
>The KDevelop Team is proud to announce the availability of the KDevelop
>Integrated Development Environment for Unix Systems, version 1.0 Beta 1.
>...

Thanks!

We really need some step-by-step detailed instructions for installing 
with Red Hat 6.0 and other popular distributions.

-- Rod

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From: "Mark J Cavage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: GNOME log-out
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 20:31:41 -0400

here's a minimal, but interesting problem.
I have the neomagic x-server, i can use everything in GNOME fine(redhat
6.0), however, when I try to use the graphical logout, it freezes up, I can
still kill it with cntrl-alt-backspace, but I was just wondering if anyone
has some hints on this, I have a suspician it has to do with the GNOMe
panels, but I dont know how to go about editing it to fix this.
Thanks ,
Mark Cavage
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: Young4ert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux and NT on one system....help!!!
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 12:16:02 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I had Windows NT installed on my system.  I installed Redhat linux 6.0
> on the same system.  But lilo gave me an error message during the
> installation process when I tried to include the NT partition in the
> boot sequence.  So I omitted it for now.  How can I setup the computer
> now so I can boot both systems.  I have linux running now and it's
> working great of course.  But I need to run NT sometimes.  What should I
> do?
> 
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

You did not mention which partitions are you rlinux and NT.  I happened
to have two drives on my system in which the Linux is on /dev/hda and NT
is on /dev/hdb.  Here is my /etc/lilo.conf file that may help you:

  # Start LILO global Section
  #
  prompt
  read-only
  boot    = /dev/hda
  timeout = 100
  vga     = normal        # force sane state
 
  # End LILO global Section
  #
  image   = /boot/bzImage-2.2.10-2
          root    = /dev/hda2
          label   = Linux
 
  image   = /boot/vmlinuz
          root    = /dev/hda2
          label   = Linux-Orig
 
  #
  other   = /dev/hdb1
          label           = NT
          map-drive       = 0x80
          to              = 0x81
          map-drive       = 0x81
          to              = 0x80
          table           = /dev/hdb

Notice that since my NT is on a second drive, it is necessary to map the
drive so that NT will be able to boot. 

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

PS> Remove the "4" from e-mail address to respond.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.m68k
Subject: SEXY STUFF 86374
Date: Friday, 06 Aug 1999 16:46:57 -0600
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From: "Art S. Kagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Power Failures & Linux ?
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 09:49:57 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

"Gordon D. Anderson" wrote:
> 
> I know about uninterruptable power supplies but can't go
> there just yet.  My question is:
> For a single-user home system, just how serious are power
> failures?  There have been several outages lately and my
> system always seems to recover, though it takes a little
> time.  I know that I can lose data not yet stored, but is
> there any danger to applications or to the set-up of Linux
> or X ?    Thanks.

I've had to reinstall once and rebuild XFree86 twice from my wife and kids 
powering down.  Got a great UPS on auction for ~$80US not long ago and 
took a power hit just last Friday, whew!

Art S. Kagel

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From: "Ronald V. Casberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Gateway ISP - no DNS IP's ?!?
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 17:52:08 -0700

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Greetings all. You are my last Court of Appeals.
> 
Try using one or both of the following:

DNS2.GATEWAY.COM.       1d23h59m6s IN A  63.66.78.35
DNS1.GATEWAY.COM.       1d23h59m6s IN A  63.66.78.33


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From: "Thomas S. Manley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: CD-ROM not playing audio CDs
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 19:43:58 -0400

Matthias Kilian wrote:
> 
> > CD, though, it doesn't come through the soundcard.  I can plug
> > headphones into the CD-ROM itself and hear the audio CD being played.
> > I have a cable that I bought a while back that connects the CD-ROM to
> > the soundcard.  Playing audio CDs through the CD-ROM used to work
> > fine, but now just doesn't.  It doesn't work under Windows, either, so
> 
> Try to replace the cable. Check the audio connector of CD-ROM and soundcard.
> Those connectors are pretty sensible to hard pulling, so if you've bad luck,
> the connector or even the copper layer on the card or CD-ROM may be broken
> (the latter happened on my second-hand CD-ROM).
> 
> Kili

While a very probably idea, I don't think that's it because mine is also
refusing to play audio CDs yet I know the cable connection between my CD
player and soundcard exists and has not been tampered with.  I'm
wondering if it has something to do with my soundcard.  I currently have
a SB PCI128, a Panasonic multiplatter CD changer and a DVD-ROM drive. 
Any suggestions as to what could prevent my CD player from playing audio
CDs?  I've tried both drives and no luck...but it *does* read data CDs. 
My soundcard also has no problem with digital audio files.  Any help is
appreciated.

-- 
Thomas S. Manley
        [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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