Linux-Misc Digest #396, Volume #21 Sat, 14 Aug 99 03:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: how to install an application (Bob Martin)
New Site for the CMI8330 How-To (Ken McCord)
Re: Can't add partition to drive ("Duy D.")
Re: pppd connection & modem modules query (Vlad Markov)
Re: complete freeze with RH6 (Steve Weiss)
Re: complete freeze with RH6 ("bobrien")
Lose color in filenames when I use tcsh (6135)
Re: Q: inode and file limits ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Text Editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: DVD ("Mark Connolly")
Re: Resizing and Moving Mounts (Abdullah Ramazanoglu)
Re: Text Editor (Gary Momarison)
Re: Formating dos partition for Linux and removing LILO (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Re: What I think of linux. (James Campbell Andrew)
Re: Lose color in filenames when I use tcsh (Vilmos Soti)
Re: getting winmodem to work ("Richard")
Re: What does linux with MMX feature? (Christopher B. Browne)
K apps and KCharset messages ("William B. Cattell")
streak/whinning starting X ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to install an application
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 04:02:30 +0000
root wrote:
>
> Can anybody teach me how to install an application in LINUX please...??
> Every time I type ./configure then I get message like :
>
> --error gcc .........(etc)
> --error cc ............(etc)
>
> And if you download a free software, can i just put it under root
> directory ? Or will it settle by itself during installation process....?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> (linux user just one hour ago....!!)
Configure is having problems checking your compiler, you probably didn't
install the development tools.
You can of course download packages in binary rpm format and use rpm to
install them. I usually prefer to get the source and compile, that way
you know it's compiled againd=s the libraries you have on your system.
Especially useful if do not always upgrade to the latest and greatest.
The binaries also may somtime be compiled static or with debugging which
make them much larger.
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From: Ken McCord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: New Site for the CMI8330 How-To
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 22:11:57 -0400
Well, I've finally been able to get my own web site up and running. If
you need to find a copy of the CMI8330 How-To, go to
www.themccords.com/~ken and follow the Linux link. If you're located in
Europe, don't forget that you can also access the How-To at
http://home.gelrevision.nl/~h.wolter/linux.htm
If you have questions about the How-To, e-mail me at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks,
Ken McCord
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From: "Duy D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.general
Subject: Re: Can't add partition to drive
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 22:13:58 -0400
Craig wrote:
> Duy d. wrote:
> > Was the 300 MB of free space on your windows partition?
>
> Yes. There is only one partition on the drive. It is FAT16.
>
> ------------------ Posted via CNET Linux Help ------------------
> http://www.searchlinux.com
linux tells the free space on your disk, not the free space on your
windows partition. You need to get a partitioning utility, fips, like
someone down this thread suggested, and use it to shrink your windows
partition, then you'll have some "real" free space.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vlad Markov)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: pppd connection & modem modules query
Date: 14 Aug 1999 03:13:22 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <7p2de7$odr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Bamburger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
|> After many attempts I have finally got both my ISP connections up &
|> running thru netcfg. I use this program to activate either ppp1 or ppp0,
|> depending on which ISP I intend to use. However I can only do this while
|> logged in as root. Is there any easy way to do this while not logged in
|> as root - I have tried "ifup ppp0" but it reports that I dont have
|> permission even though everything has complete rx access. Is it the ppp
|> daemon itself that requires change?
You are on redHat 6.0 aren't you? I gave up on their tools and wandered
through the documentation. I connect to two different phone numbers to my
ISP and another to work using files in the peers directory under /etc/ppp
using the "call" argument to pppd. I like doing it that way because it
appears cleaner than other ways. The man pages can be hard to understand,
write me if its not clear.
|>
|> Also the var/log/messages file reports an inability to load numerous
|> compress modules:
|>
|> modprobe: can't locate module ppp-compress-26
|> modprobe: can't locate module ppp-compress-24
|> modprobe: can't locate module ppp-compress-21
|> modprobe: can't locate module ppp-compress-26
|>
This has to do with aliasing modules. I used the answer from Redhat which
frankly doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I did a search in deja.com which
resulted in three different answers. All of them shut up the complaints but
which one is correct remains a mystery to me.
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From: Steve Weiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: complete freeze with RH6
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 01:00:53 -0400
I was seeing this kind of stuff with Gnome/Enlightenment too. I
installed all the upgrades and it still persisted. I changed my runlevel
in /etc/inittab to 3 and I haven't seen any problems since. I'd prefer
to use runlevel 5 and the graphical login but until they get this
straightened out it seems to be the only way I can use Gnome and
Enlightenment.
-S
Mark Hovey wrote:
>
> My system also completely freezes at random times under RH6.0 and
> Gnome/Enlightenment. Its a Celeron 400 with 128 Mb RAM, only 4Mb memory
> on the video card. So far it has not done this under fvwm2 or without X
> running. This is a major bug, assuming it is a bug--I can only be
> thankful these crashes haven't corrupted my filesystem or hard drive
> yet.
> Mark Hovey
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
"If you watch TV news, you know less about the world than if you just
drank
gin straight from the bottle." - Garrison Keillor
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From: "bobrien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: complete freeze with RH6
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 01:43:50 -0300
As the other two have mentioned, I also share the same symptoms. I have yet
to find a common link between the crashes. Redhat 6 kernel 2.2.5-15...
I've had to run fsck manually on one occasion thus far and there were a lot
of errors to be fixed, but nothing seems to have left any permanent damage
so far. Lucky for me, my machine is a toy, an expensive one albeit, but
used strictly by me for my own learning purposes. I only posted this to
help make it aware that this seems to be a software bug.
My machine briefly is a Dell xps-r450, 128m ram, 17gig maxtor hd, adsl net
hookup, riva tnt 16meg video card and turtle beach montego II sound card
(somebody please write a driver!!!! if I could I would.. :-( ).
Anyone else getting this? The only other thing I can say is that it is only
X that does this, so far only Gnome/Enlightenment. Also my desktop keeps
reloading sometimes, not the bottom menu bar, just the actual icons on the
desktop continually reload so I had to switch to fvwm. Anybody experience
this yet?
Blake
Darrel Davis wrote:
> >
> > On 10 Aug 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I have a k6-2 350 w/ 128M RAM and a tulip card. I got freezes
> > when I upgraded to RH6 just like you describe but found it was
> > only with Gnome/Enlightenment. Under KDE it is rock solid.
> > Never a problem.
> >
> > Visually I prefer Gnome/E but since I'm doing production work I
> > cannot have any lockups or crashes so I use KDE.
> >
> > -darrel
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Subject: Lose color in filenames when I use tcsh
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (6135)
Date: 13 Aug 1999 22:07:49 -0500
When is use bash, the file types are distinguished with
different colors. However, when I used my beloved tcsh,
the files are all one color. Any ideas?
Also, how do I change the font on the KDE window manager?
It's sooo small.
Oh yeah - Mandrake 6.0
And one more thing, if I buy a laptop (Compaq Presario 1270,
which uses a K6-2) will Linux install? I'm about to take
the leap from Intel to a clone...
Thanks,
Scott
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Q: inode and file limits
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 22:00:17 -0500
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can anyone guide me to the practical limits in linux
> (ext2) regarding inodes/files.
> How many files can I expect to have on a drive?
The absolute maximum number is one per inode. Slackware's options
are one inode per 4096, 2048 or 1024 bytes.
> Thanks in advance.
HTH
Rob
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Text Editor
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 21:51:31 -0500
In <3K1t3.4176$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Suddn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I telnet into my Linux server from a windows box. I need to work with text
> files (C++ Source) but I hate the VI editor. Is there any editors that are,
> well, more user friendly that will work?
I've used joe quite a bit. It feels like WordStar. Apparently if
you invoke it with "jpico" it acts like pico. Of course, pico itself
is also available.
> Thanks.
de nada
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From: "Mark Connolly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
athome.users-unix,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: DVD
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 04:45:21 GMT
nope.. at least i dont think so.. it only sees your dvd drive as a cdrom
drive.. at least thats what redhat did with mine.. and i need windows to
watch dvd movies
Chris Lu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8D5t3.2395$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Can someone tell me if DVD drives are supported under Linux? Will I be
able
> to watch DVD movies, use DVD software?
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
>
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From: Abdullah Ramazanoglu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Resizing and Moving Mounts
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 01:21:07 +0300
Nicholas Pappas wrote:
>
> Is it possible to resize a partition/mount point in Linux, and/or move it
> to a different disk.
> I have a 9GB disk partitioned with several mount points (root, var, usr,
> tmp, home -- just in case you cared <g>). I just got a new drive and am
> wanting to move my /usr and /home directory to it.
> Is it possible to move these and then resize the other mount points, or
> maybe add a few more (like /etc and my httpd directory)? I am sure that
> this isn't too hard -- I just don't want to loose any data...which
> complicates things. :)
Hi Nicholas, first of all I should say that I'm not an expert to advice
in such a critical subject. So take it with some salt. That said, this
is what I would have done:
1. Just install 2nd disk, create partitions and file systems as I like,
mount them under some fake name such as /newusr and /newhome.
2. Copy /usr to /newusr and /home to /newhome. This can be tricky,
because you must make a ditto copy including hard and symbolic links and
special files (if any). "cp -a /usr /newusr" should work, but you may
need to use another way such as dd. I would compare directory trees to
make sure. Since you are not touching your original /usr and /home it
should be a safe operation.
3. Boot from floppy (boot + root diskettes) and mount your root
partition to -say- /mnt/root. Backup your original /etc/fstab via "cp -p
/mnt/root/etc/fstab /mnt/root/etc/fstab.orig"
4. Edit /mnt/root/etc/fstab and change the lines for /usr and /home to
show new partitions.
5. Reboot.
If something goes wrong, you can always fallback to your original
partitions, by booting from diskette again and copying back
"fstab.orig".
Once you are satisfied that everything is OK, you can thrash your
original partitions that used to hold older /usr and /home filesystems.
> ...which brings up another question, anyone have a good backup program
> they can recommend? :)
For occasional backups I consider using a CD-RW. It is multi-purpose, I
need it anyway, have best media life-cycle, and have best cost/benefit
(both drive-wise and media-wise). There is "backburner" for CD-R / CD-RW
backups (search in freshmeat).
Regards
--
Abdullah Ramazanoglu [ aramazanoglu AT demirbank DOT com DOT tr ]
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Subject: Re: Text Editor
From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 13 Aug 1999 22:22:11 -0700
"Suddn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I telnet into my Linux server from a windows box. I need to work with text
> files (C++ Source) but I hate the VI editor. Is there any editors that are,
> well, more user friendly that will work?
Jed is a nice, small editor. Kind of like a micro-Emacs by default, but
has a "vi" mode too. But everyone should at least try the real thing
for few days. If you explore some of it's capabilities, you'll probably
like it, or at least know what people are talking about.
The first thing to do is to run the built-in tutorial ("F1 T" or
"Alt-X help-with-tutorial" or "ctrl-H t"). It may seem awkward and
old fashioned at first, but give it a good try. Its really worth it.
Or see:
http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/editors.html
http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/emacs.html
--
Look for Linux info at http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml and
Gary's Encyclopedia at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/index.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Subject: Re: Formating dos partition for Linux and removing LILO
Date: 14 Aug 1999 05:11:35 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Warren Bell wrote:
>"Cameron L. Spitzer" wrote:
>>
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Warren Bell wrote:
>> >I was thinking going into /etc/lilo.conf and removing the second option
>> >and the time delay, but I don't want to do it where it's a hack or
>> >somthing.
>>
>> Delete the "other=" stanza from /etc/lilo.conf and run lilo.
>> Test your boot.
>
>How does the system know to boot if lilo isn't installed, if Linux is
>the only os?
You need some kind of boot loader. LILO is available and will do what
you need done. You can turn off the "LILO boot:" prompt and
get rid of that delay, but LILO is still doing the work of copying
your bootimage from blocks on your hard drive into memory.
> Can I set up my system to boot direct without lilo
Yes. Make a small partition inside the first 1024 cylinders of
the first hard drive. Copy your bootimage there with cat, dd, or cp.
Reasons why nobody does this:
1. It wastes a whole partition on something you could do with
a few files if you used LILO, Syslinux, System Commander, etc.
2. You can't give the kernel any command line options
3. It doesn't boot noticeably faster than LILO.
4. You only get one choice of kernel.
5. cp and dd don't warn you if you're writing someplace BIOS can't read.
>as if
>lilo was never installed?
Before there was a boot loader on the drive, either Microsoft's or Linux'
or a third party's, the drive was not bootable. If you tried booting it,
the BIOS would say "BASIC in ROM Missing" or "Operating System not Installed"
or some similar message.
> Or once lilo is installed you have to use it?
You need some boot loader if you want BIOS to be able to launch
an operating system and you don't want to dedicate a disk partition or
the floppy drive to a single bootimage.
Cameron
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Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: What I think of linux.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Campbell Andrew)
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 07:18:41 +0100
coffee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Lets see, Im 38 yrs old and the first system I ever worked on was a
> mainframe at college. Had to use punch cards in order to write your
> program.
>
> The first computer I ever owned was a 386sx16 with a whooping 4 megs of
> ram and a 100 mb hard drive.
32 here, work for Midshire Veterinary Systems using the THEOS o/s (ever
hear of that?)
First computer owned:TRS-80 Model 1 Level2 16k, moved to a BBC 'B',
thence to an Acorn A310, Acorn A5000, Apple LC475 and now use a PowerMac
6400/200 and a Pentium 133 with SuSE 6.0 on it (networked of course <g>)
I own about 60 computers, all are 8 bit apart from the 2 main ones and
an old SGI Indy that someone gave me.
I still say the Tandy Model 100 was the best laptop ever, although the
Z88 came damn close.
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From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lose color in filenames when I use tcsh
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 06:30:21 GMT
6135 wrote:
>
> When is use bash, the file types are distinguished with
> different colors. However, when I used my beloved tcsh,
> the files are all one color. Any ideas?
>
alias ls ls --color=auto
Put it into you startup file.
Vilmos
--
Looking for a job in British Columbia.
Have you recompiled your kernel today?
Linus? Jesus Christ Superstar
Bill? Clueless in Seattle
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From: "Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: getting winmodem to work
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 23:45:32 -0700
All modems I have bought come with sufficient documentation so setup under
Linux. The problem these days are with name brand systems. Unlike cars',
tvs', etc. when you buy a computer, DON'T BUY NAME BRAND COMPUTERS. To
people like us, they are junk. You can't upgrade them, they don't conform
to industry wide recognized practices and you can never get the hardware to
work right on other operating systems because most of the stuff is either
built into the mainboard or built into some other component and the drivers
are modified from the originals. Which means you can't go to the
manufacturer of the component and download the new driver. You have to get
it from the "manufacturer" (and I use this term lightly because they only
buy parts from other places and put them together) of the computer.
Motherboards are upgradable. They can support several PII CPU's up to
several PIII CPU's. The board in the name brand systems can't because they
have to save money in every place they can. Go to those smaller computer
stores. The kind that can customize the system. You can buy a system with
a PII 350Mhz CPU and later upgrade it to at least a PIII 450Mhz using the
same board. All you need to do is buy the new CPU, plug it in, maybe change
a few jumpers and that's it. Sure you may spend a little more. All-in-one
boards cost less at first but in the long run will cost more because you
will have to not only buy a new mainboard but also all the components that
came built into the board originally.
Where you buy your computer means quite a bit. Buy your system at a chain
store and all the clerk can tell you about it is what it says on the little
card next to the computer. That's great help...if you can't read. Buy it
at the smaller computer stores and they can tell you all you want to know.
By the way, I'm a technician at a computer wholesaler/distributor.
Richard
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: What does linux with MMX feature?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 05:56:02 GMT
On Fri, 13 Aug 1999 20:45:48 -0700, David Rabanus
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>Are MMX features in Intel processors used by linux?
>
>Are there FAQs or HOWTOs about that?
See <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/linuxarch.html#MMX>
Briefly:
- There are a few libraries that can exercise MMX, but they are not in
wide use since MMX is not universally available.
- If you use RAID + SCSI, it is possible for some MMX code to be used
to make checksums on this run faster.
- In theory, graphics libraries should benefit, and it would be a Neat
Idea for XFree86 to use MMX. The fabled XFree86 4.0 release could
conceivably make it easier to support this sort of thing, but it
doesn't appear to have been seriously worked on.
--
Make sure your code does nothing gracefully.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
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From: "William B. Cattell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: K apps and KCharset messages
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 06:53:08 GMT
Whenever I start up one of the 'K'applets (kpackage, kmenu,
kuser, etc) after su-ing to root in a shell I get a couple
error messages "KCharset: Wrong charset!". the app still
works, the messages are just annoying. I've been searching
the man pages, READMEs, HOWTOs, etc. but no luck. Can
anyone point in a direction to working.
TIA,
Bill
--
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Park not thy Harley in the darkness of thine garage, that it
may collect dust for want of being oft ridden. Ride thy
Harley
with thy brethren, and rejoice in the spirit of the road.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: streak/whinning starting X
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 06:50:33 GMT
Hi !
I noticed every time I start X-windows on my computer, there is a short
violent streak, or flash, or blimp, on my monitor, and just for maybe a
hundredth of a second, a high pitched whinning; then everything's happy!
I suspect this is due to my low end monitor (45 MHz bandwith), while my
videocard (S3 virge, 4MB) can do 140 MHz, and I'd like to know if others
noticed that or have a work-around it.
It happens all the time, with all distributions I tried
(Slackware3.4, 3.5, 3.6, Caldera2.2, RH5.0 etc.., no matter what server
I use (the SVGA server, or the S3 server)
The only time I noticed this did not happen was in the initial phaseof
installing Caldera, when I guess it runs the VGA 16 color server.
I'm launching X in 16-bit, or 24 or 32 bit mode !
Any input highly appreciated !
Have a good night (or morning, whatever..)
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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