Linux-Misc Digest #439, Volume #21 Tue, 17 Aug 99 19:13:11 EDT
Contents:
Mail proxy / gateway (Philip S Tellis)
Re: why not C++? (Kaz Kylheku)
Re: Blank Screensaver in Gnome? (Leonard Evens)
Re: Can I switch from OS/2 to Linux and be happy? (Christian Hennecke)
Wheel Mouse (RH 6.0 & KDE)? ("Sean P. Turner")
linux with autologin and setting up a mp3 box (Andre Oliveira Dias)
Re: SB PCI 128 Config ("Cameron, Gary [WDLN2:2Y82:EXCH]")
Re: Looking for comparable apps in Linux from OS/2 (Christian Hennecke)
Re: why not C++? (Kaz Kylheku)
Re: why not C++? (Warren Young)
Re: ICQ and linux client ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: KDE/GNOME (Fred Flintstone)
Can I switch from OS/2 to Linux and be happy? (Zephyr Q)
Comparing HPFS to ext2fs... (Zephyr Q)
RH 6.0 and NUMLOCK?? (Sean Turner)
Re: pppd in 'setuid-root' mode (Chris Butler)
Re: ICQ and linux client (David Howe)
Re: Which distro? (Chris Butler)
What Hardware should I buy? (Hans Marcus Kruger)
Unable to remove LINUX (Mike Bixler)
Real;Player bombs with Comm4.51 (Ron Gibson)
Re: Can I switch from OS/2 to Linux and be happy? (Rob van Hout)
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From: Philip S Tellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mail proxy / gateway
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 00:41:39 +0530
My company has a win95 network running on a WinNT server. I told them
that we could use Linux as a proxy server for internet access, so they
allowed me to setup one machine to act as a proxy. I managed to set it
up as a HTTP proxy, but do not know how to set it up to pick all the
users' mail from the remote mailbox, and distribute it to each user's pc
when requested. Or to send outgoing messages from user's pc via the
Linux server.
Do I have to setup proxy server settings on the client pc's? All pc's
use Netscape.
Please help
Philip
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaz Kylheku)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: why not C++?
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:59:18 GMT
On Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:28:38 -0400, Arinte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Well, I can see some of your points. But, if it was programmed it C++ then
>the programmer can have a choice of doing there code in c or c++ without
>having to do extra work. Using C++ would have been more open.
Nonsense, you still have the choice of using C++. You should be able to
write a driver in C++ for Linux. A loadable module is just a slab of
machine code and data. As long as it behaves right and doesn't ask for any
symbols that the kernel can't give it, it's fine.
So for example if you wanted to use, say, C++ exception handling in your
driver, you would have to provide your own run-time support for it within that
object, since the kernel wouldn't resolve your undefined reference to
things like __throw() . Adding this support would take some work, so you
might opt for doing without the feature.
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Blank Screensaver in Gnome?
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:41:51 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hi folks, I'm using RH6.0 with GNOME, how can I set in GNOME the screen saver
> to let it turn into a blank screen when idle for a period of time? I couldn't
> find such an option in the screen saver configure menu in GNOME, all that
> I could see were those cheesy fancy stuff, but not the simple BLANK SCREEN"!
> I could find it easily in KDE, but I want to use GNOME for the time being.
> I've tracked xscreensaver to /usr/X11R6/shared/xscreensaver/, I've tried
> editing the Screensaver file in my .gnome directory, but they just didn't
> work! Please someone help, all I want is just a blank screen for screen
> saver in xscreensaver/GNOME! Thanks in advance!
I think `No screensaver', the first option, means a blank screensaver,
but I am not sure.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: Christian Hennecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Can I switch from OS/2 to Linux and be happy?
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 23:33:50 +0200
Zephyr Q schrieb:
>
> Or, more importantly, how can I make the switch with as
> little grief as possible?
>
> For example, I'm already playing with RH 5.2 (waiting for
> SuSe 6.2 to come out) and have been playing with AfterStep.
> I'm looking for a WM or Xserver (am I showing my newbiness?)
> that most approximates the Work Place Shell on OS/2.
You'll need a complete Desktop to do that, i.e. either KDE or GNOME w/
Enlightenment. I've had a look at Linux with those a short time ago
(normally I am using Warp 4). Well, the developers of both desktops have
done a really great job so far, but it's still a looonnnnnggggg way to
come near to the WPS. Some things will probably never work for all
programs (system wide keyboard sequences etc.). Anyway, try it and see
yourself.
> I'll ask about comparable apps in a different post.
Hm, there are The Gimp (graphics manipulation, remember Colorworks?),
LyX (a LaTeX frontend), StarOffice 5.1 for Linux, Applixware (Office
Suite, not as much features as StarOffice), WordPerfect, Electric Eyes
and xv (both Imageviewers) to begin. SuSE comes with a ton of
applications (6CDs now I think).
Regards
Christian Hennecke
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From: "Sean P. Turner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Wheel Mouse (RH 6.0 & KDE)?
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:05:07 GMT
I'm trying to figure out why the wheel on my intellimouse 1.1A PS/2
mouse isn't
working. I can press down on it and a window pops up albeit it's greyed
out. I
just want to be able to scroll (hate to say it) like I do in windoze.
Here's
what I've got/figured out so far:
If I do a ls -l /dev/mouse I get:
/dev/mouse -> psaux
I looked in /etc/X11/XF86Config and found the following in the pointer
section:
Protocol "IMPS/2"
Device "/dev/mouse"
ZAxisMapping 4 5
Everything else is commented out.
I also looked in /etc/sysconfig/mouse and found the following:
MOUSETYPE="imps2"
XMOUSETYPE="IMPS/2"
FULLNAME="Microsoft IntelliMouse (PS/2)"
XMEMU3=no
Now the RH installation suggested that I use the gpm daemon. So it runs
in the
appropriate rune level (5 and others). It's really weird the way it
works, but
it allows you to cut and paste between terminal windows. Does this mess
up the
other settings?? I removed it from the run levels and the cut and paste
is
still available when in KDE?
Any ideas???
st
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andre Oliveira Dias)
Subject: linux with autologin and setting up a mp3 box
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 21:35:42 GMT
hi!
I am trying to build a computer justo to play mp3.
First I was trying to rip things from it keeping the minimum
necessary:
here is what William told me:
"
1) kernel with sound
1a) lilo or something to boot with -- optional for floppies
2) init
3) /lib, /bin, /etc, /dev (at least ttys, media devices, audio and
dsp)
4) a shell
5) mp3 player and any libs it has
Statically link your shell, /bin and the mp3 to get rid of /lib, if
desired. There is a shell with much of /bin builtin, called sash I
believe.
"
Also I would like to autologin as a defined user and the execute a
shell. Also what could we rip from the boot sequence (S69inet, Sxxx,
etc etc).
thanks for any answer.
p.s. please send any thread by email too.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Cameron, Gary [WDLN2:2Y82:EXCH]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: SB PCI 128 Config
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:43:45 -0400
Philipp Maier wrote:
> David wrote:
> >
> > I just got a new PCI 128 card for my machine but I'm not sure which
> > driver I should use. I left the kernel compiled with the old AWE64 card
> > I had to see if that would work to no avail. The linux hardware
> > compatibility howto says it's supported but how do I get it working?
> > Please help.
> >
> > P.S. I'm using SuSE 6.1 with kernel 2.2.10
You want the Ensonic 1370 sound chip driver enabled. I have the same
sound card as well. Kernels before 2.2.7 did not support this card, and the
drivers were improved (I think) sometime between 2.2.8 and 2.2.9 Either
that, or you can use the OSS drivers provided with SuSE. Personally, I would
rather use the kernel drivers as opposed to any commercial source. Read the
help with the menuconfig option - I think it tells you run cat /proc/pci and
look for a certain string, which verifies which sound chip you have.
Personally, I think they should append the list of commercial sound cards
which use the chip in question. It makes it a lot easier for novices to
figure out which driver they should use.
--
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From: Christian Hennecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Looking for comparable apps in Linux from OS/2
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 23:42:32 +0200
Zephyr Q schrieb:
>
> I'm making the switch from OS/2 to Linux, and *really*
> would like some similar functionality with the following
> apps:
>
> A mail client as functional as PMMail (nested folders,
> remote control)
Remote control? I don't know. Netscape 4.61 has a lot of features
including a killfile for the newsreader.
> A slim browser that handles pages well (I never did like
> Netscape 2.02 for OS/2 much and Opera never panned out...)
Try kfm, KDE's filemanager.
> Configuration tools (I don't need my hand held, but I also
> don't have a lot of time wading through scripts...).
Hm, then Debian won't be for you. SuSE comes with YaST and SaX.
> Since I'm coming from OS/2, GUI versions of the above are
> preferable (I'm not afraid of CLI, just like it less than a
> decent GUI <<whoops, flame bait>>.)
Why a flame bait? The best is GUI+CLI, each has its advantages.
Christian Hennecke
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaz Kylheku)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: why not C++?
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 21:51:26 GMT
On Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:17:38 -0600, Warren Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Keep in mind, not even C is the be-all and end-all of computer
>languages. People regularly program Linux in dozens of other languages,
>many of which don't have any real way of calling C++ code.
You can use the extern "C" linkage specifications to create C++ functions
that can be called as C functions (i.e. do not have name mangling).
Linkage specifications go both ways; they allow C++ programs to call C,
but also to define functions that are callable from C.
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From: Warren Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: why not C++?
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:17:38 -0600
Cocheese wrote:
>
> *Why Is linux done primarily in the C programming language rather than
> C++?*
I've seen many points brought up in this thread, but there's one that's
absolutely critical, and it goes beyond all the reasons rooted in
anti-C++ biases: C++ requires name mangling.
Name mangling is a very practical solution to a real problem (namely,
old C-style linkers being used for linking C++ code). The problem is,
you can't call mangled C++ functions from non-C++ languages, at least
not without a whole lot of messy glue in between.
Keep in mind, not even C is the be-all and end-all of computer
languages. People regularly program Linux in dozens of other languages,
many of which don't have any real way of calling C++ code.
C-based interfaces, at least, are callable from any sane language.
Thus, it makes sense to write core libraries and interfaces in C. If
you want OO, you can write wrappers on top of that, as happened with
Gtk+ and OO extension libraries like Gtk--.
> The downside is "linux has always been a C based Program so it will always
> be."
Again, find or write appropriate C++ wrappers. You don't need to
re-write the kernel as an OOP program in order to write application
programs in an OOP fashion.
--
= Warren Young, maintainer of the Winsock Programmer's FAQ at:
= http://www.cyberport.com/~tangent/programming/winsock/
=
= ICBM Address: 36.8274040 N, 108.0204086 W, alt. 1714m
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: ICQ and linux client
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 21:44:49 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Yap Chen Kuang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Try gtkicq. You can get it from http://gtkicq.pn.org.
>
Does that gtkicq client work under the KDE desktop, or would I have to
run the gnome desktop in order to use it?
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fred Flintstone)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,redhat.config
Subject: Re: KDE/GNOME
Date: 17 Aug 1999 16:54:24 -0500
On Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:03:57 GMT, Tomasz Kowalczyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Mal wrote:
>>
>> I have selected the AFTERSTEP setup on Red Hat v6, how can I revert back
>> to KDE or GNOME. I have tried but the option I had when i had a GNOME/KDE
>> desktop to switch desktops is nopt available in AFTERSTEP. Does somebody
>> know how to revert from AFTERSTEP to either KDE/GNOME. Your help would be
>> much appreciated.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> ------------------ Posted via CNET Linux Help ------------------
>> http://www.searchlinux.com
>
>rm ~/.Xclients-default
Or open a term window and type "switchdesk"....
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Zephyr Q)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.apps,alt.os.linux
Subject: Can I switch from OS/2 to Linux and be happy?
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:38:18 GMT
Or, more importantly, how can I make the switch with as
little grief as possible?
For example, I'm already playing with RH 5.2 (waiting for
SuSe 6.2 to come out) and have been playing with AfterStep.
I'm looking for a WM or Xserver (am I showing my newbiness?)
that most approximates the Work Place Shell on OS/2.
I also would like suggestions on what things to 'tweak' in
X to make it work more like OS/2--I realize that X
(specifically XFree86) *is* different, but I used OS/2 Warp
3 for *years* and have gotten very comfortable and
productive with it (on a 486DX4-120).
I'll ask about comparable apps in a different post.
Thanx.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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~ Cosmos, ~
~ Directed only by Him ~
~ who created the ~
~ Kosmos ~
~ Zephyr Q ~
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Zephyr Q)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Comparing HPFS to ext2fs...
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:38:25 GMT
I've been using OS/2 for years, and am switching to Linux
(don't ask why yet, that is a different post). In the past,
I have been **very** happy with the rock solid performance
of HPFS and, seeing several comments about problems with
Linux's file system (especially with power outages, etc.),
am curious about the following:
Is it possible to *use* the HPFS with any amount of success
with Linux (I know I can download a driver to read/write,
but is it reliable?)?
How does Linux's security at this level compare with HPFS
(i.e.--if I get a hard drive from a stranger with ext2fs on
it, and I wipe it, is the info unrecoverable by experts? I
know it sounds like a strange question, but I occasionally
find HDs at auctions and clearing houses and like to be able
to know I can clean them...)?
Thanx.
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~ Finding his place in ~
~ Cosmos, ~
~ Directed only by Him ~
~ who created the ~
~ Kosmos ~
~ Zephyr Q ~
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From: Sean Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RH 6.0 and NUMLOCK??
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:45:02 GMT
Okay one of the RH howtos says:
2. General System Setup
2.1 Keyboard
.....
To enable NumLock on by default, add these lines to /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit
(AT2YD):
for tty in /dev/tty[1-9]*; do
setleds -D +num < $tty
done
I added it to the end before the output to dmesg, but when I reboot - it
doesn't work :( Has anybody gotten the numlock to stay on wehn they
boot into KDE or GNOME?
Thanks
st
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Butler)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: pppd in 'setuid-root' mode
Date: 17 Aug 1999 23:30:43 +0100
[comp.os.linux.misc - Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:04:01 +0100] * Richard G wrote *
> I suspect the system is revoking pppd's suid root status at some point and
> I was wondering if there are any likely causes of this? (When initially
> called by a pppuser, I think pppd _is_ running as root as I don't get the
> standard error message telling me to run it as root!)
pppd sets its UID back to the UID of the user who ran it once it has done
whatever it needs root privs to do. Basically because doing a lot of stuff
as root is generally a Bad Thing(tm).
--
Chris Butler
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: David Howe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: ICQ and linux client
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:06:15 GMT
Andy,
Thanx Bud - You da man!This is excellent. I finally got it to work. I was in the same
directory of the executable and it still wouldn't run. But, by typing the entire path
it
would. The best plan would be to added it to the profile.
Thanx Again!
~dM
Andy Johnstone wrote:
> David,
>
> The problem is that these apps are not in your path. You have a few options.
> 1) Type the full path (ie /usr/local/bin/Licq) - Gets old quick
> 2) Add it to your path. Edit your .bashrc and add export PATH=/usr/local/bin:$PATH
>-
> This will only affect YOUR path. Other users will still have to type
> /usr/local/bin/Licq if they want to run icq (or they may add the path to their
> ~/.bashrc)
> 3) Add the same line to /etc/profile. This will affect all users.
>
> If you use steps 2 or 3, remember you'll have to logout and login so all the files
>get
> reread. Hope that helps.
>
> Andy
>
> David Howe wrote:
>
> > Adam Haeder wrote:
> >
> > > David Howe wrote:
> > >
> > > > Raymond Doetjes wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > gtkicq is very kewl!
> > > > >
> > > > > It's in SuSE as a package but you probably use RedNeck so you need to
> > > > > download it. DOn't for get that when you download the source that you also
> > > > > need to install the GTK libs and headers.
> > > > >
> > > > > Raymond
> > > > >
> > > > > Larry Clark wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > man I tell you I have spent the WHOLE day triing to get a client for ICQ
> > > > > > that will work...not a dam***** thing...nothing,.....what a drag...think I
> > > > > > will sleep now....help!!!!!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > =====================
> > > > > Why use Windows
> > > > > When
> > > > > Real Men
> > > > > Have Invented Doors?
> > > > > =====================
> > > >
> > > > I have been thru much the same process, and I am very new to Linux. To date I
> > > > have downloaded and installed nearly every Linux-ICQ client I could find. Here
> > > > are a few: ICQjava, Licq, ICQnix, Micq,Gtkicq.
> > > >
> > > > I am running RedHat 6.0 Intel tri-boot system (NT,98,Linux). Here are the
> > > > basic steps that all installations follow:
> > > > Run ./configure
> > > > Run make
> > > > Run make install
> > > >
> > > > All of these steps run without a problem. No errors, no warnings, no clues
> > > > (that I am aware of). When the make is complete I have NO executable to run.
> > > > I have done a locate, find and nothing.
> > > >
> > > > If anyone has any ideas - I'm open for suggestions. Please reply to group only.
> > > >
> > > > thanx,
> > > > ~dM
> > >
> > > After you complete the 'make' step, you should get an executable. The 'make
> > > install' just copies the executable (and maybe some man pages) to the default dir
> > > on your hard drive (usually /usr/local/bin or something like that). If you can't
> > > scroll back up in your xterm window to see what got copied where, run this
> > > command:
> > > find / -name kicq -print
> > > to search your hard drive for files named 'kicq' after your make install is
> > > complete.
> > > I use Licq at work all the time and it works great.
> >
> > I left the machine in Linux long enough to finish a cron and managed to locate
> > several executables: icqnix, gtkicq and they list as +x. After running any one of
> > them I get the following error.
> > bash: icqnix: command not found
> > or
> > bash: gtkicq: command not found
> >
> > Any more suggestions?
> >
> > thanx,
> > ~dM
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Butler)
Subject: Re: Which distro?
Date: 17 Aug 1999 23:20:03 +0100
[comp.os.linux.misc - 17 Aug 1999 16:04:37 -0500] * John wrote *
> Chris Butler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : The `main' section, the biggest, contains all of the free software, as
> [...]
> : The `contrib' section (nothing like RedHat's contrib!) contains programs
> [...]
> : The `non-free' section contains programs that are not compatible with the
> : DFSG.
> Getting nitpicky (but I believe this is of prime importance to the Debian
> folk), the 'non-free' section is not part of Debian proper, it's merely
> provided as a service. To wit (from http://www.debian.org/social_contract):
Yep. I should have mentioned that, of course. <slaps forehead>
And what with me waiting to become a developer 'n' all, tut tut. :)
> So yes, while Debian is not entirely GPL it is 100% DFSG-compliant. The stuff
> under "non-free" is just plain not Debian (even if it is packaged as .deb's).
> That being said, I encourage anyone considering a new distro to lookit Debian.
Ditto here. It's certainly the biggest one that I've seen around.. 3880
binary packages from 2707 source packages in the today's unstable dist, and
it's growing quickly.. [0]
And that's just the official archive, of course. There are other sources
of packages lying about.
[0] Just as a comparison, according to
http://store.redhat.com/commerce/store.cgi?page=package_list.html,
RedHat has a mere 635 packages in the official archive. [1]
[1] lynx -source <above url> | grep '^<DT' | wc -l is where I get that
figure from.
--
Chris Butler
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: Hans Marcus Kruger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: What Hardware should I buy?
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 21:59:17 GMT
I want to buy 128 Mb Ram. But I have an "old" Pentium 200 MMX, so I=20
would not be able to buy 100 Mhz Memory as my motherboard does not=20
support it. Otherwise I would like to buy 100MHz Memory in case I=20
upgrade to another processor. So I thought of upgrading my whole=20
system. I thought of buying an AMD K6-2 450 Mhz. The Question is, how=20=
fast is AMD with Linux (and with Windows). Should I rather buy an=20
Intel chip with less Mhz for somewhat the same money?
Thanks in advanced
Hans M Kruger
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From: Mike Bixler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Unable to remove LINUX
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:30:17 -0600
Hi,
Hopefully this is an easy question. I attempting remove LINUX from my
PC.
I've formatted the drive numerous times using fdisk and Windows NT.
However,
each time I boot the system, the the system halts with a LI and does not
precede.
Thanks for any advice.
Mike Bixler
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ron Gibson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Real;Player bombs with Comm4.51
Date: 17 Aug 1999 22:18:13 GMT
I can't get RealPlayer working with Comm 4.51. I've tried both the elf
and the aout versions. It starts to play and I hear a few sounds and
then it dies with an error 1, which tells me nothing at real web site.
Everything works fine under Windoze. Anybody got a clue as to what
mighht be wrong?
Also, the installation instructions are confusing. It appears to first
set it up as a plugin then tells you to set it up as a helper app. So I
wondering what set of instructions go with the two options.
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob van Hout)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.apps,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Can I switch from OS/2 to Linux and be happy?
Date: 17 Aug 1999 22:21:25 GMT
On Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:38:18 GMT, Zephyr Q scribbled:
> I'm looking for a WM or Xserver (am I showing my newbiness?)
> that most approximates the Work Place Shell on OS/2.
The icewm window manager has some (cosmetic) resemblance to the OS/2
desktop, and dfm is more-or-less a Workplace Shell file-explorer lookalike.
But basically, a windowmanager doesn't do much more than 'managing windows'.
If you're looking for a complete desktop environment, you should go for KDE
or GNOME, but still both *are* different from the OS/2 Workplace Shell.
--
Rob van Hout
"How appropriate. You fight like a cow."
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