Linux-Misc Digest #468, Volume #21               Thu, 19 Aug 99 22:13:15 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Is there a website for minimalist Linux users? (Robert Kiesling)
  cd only plays one song (Steve Halasz)
  DSL Dialup (Atlanta and vicinity) (Young4ert)
  Re: RH6.0 and masquerading/ppp problem? (Ronald Cole)
  Re: *nix vs. MS security (Collin W. Hitchcock)
  Linux on a 286 ("Noah Roberts (jik-)")
  Re: Is there a website for minimalist Linux users? ("Robert Grizzard")
  Re: [Q] Upgrading gcc-2.95 on SuSE-6.1 Linux Distro (Young4ert)
  Re: Need Help w/ Modem--"Sorry modem is busy" error ("Robert Grizzard")
  Re: Can I switch from OS/2 to Linux and be happy? (John Varela)
  Re: Comparison needed: *BSD vs. Linux (Christopher Browne)
  Re: Linux vs. Unix (Christopher Browne)
  phplib and phpslash (Mevacor)
  Re: Linux vs. Unix (Benedict Chong)
  Re: *nix vs. MS security (Christopher Browne)
  Re: Linux on a 286 ("R. Fiato")
  Re: DFW area Linux User Groups?? (Christopher Browne)
  Re: Linux file-size limit? (Christopher Browne)
  Re: Any free SQL server available? (Christopher Browne)
  Can't login !! Help !! (Rachel Chung)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Kiesling)
Subject: Re: Is there a website for minimalist Linux users?
Date: 20 Aug 1999 00:03:29 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
andy  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hey all you hardcore commandline users! Keeping that 486 alive, eh? I'm
>just tired of all these apps intended for the wicked blazing smoking
>kick ass 450Mhz-toting user.
>So how much fun can I have? YOU tell ME. I want to make my pitiful 486
>sweat without making it crawl! No KDE, No GNOME. So what do YOU run on
>YOUR box? Did you make it a game server? Gateway router? What?

Slackware 3.4 on a 25Mhz 486 -- 4 MB RAM, 190MB HD.  I use it mostly
for E-mail, sometimes to post the Linux FAQ, even at its advanced age.
The GUI is Bash.

Robert Kiesling



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From: Steve Halasz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: cd only plays one song
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 19:05:57 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I've got RH 6.0. When I play CDs, the first track will play fine. Then
it stops. I can choose any track and it will just play that track. This
happens in both gtcd and kscd. If I set kscd to do random play it will
play multiple songs fine. Is this a limitation of these programs or have
I got something misconfigured?

I've got a 17-40X EIDE cdrom factory installed by Dell.

Thanks,
Steve

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From: Young4ert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: DSL Dialup (Atlanta and vicinity)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 20:10:00 -0400

Hi,

This may be off topic.  However, I have a friend who has no connection
to the Internet and resides in the out skirt of the city of Atlanta
would like to put his business on the Internet.  He already has a nic
sub-domain for his company.  He insists on using Linux as his main WEB,
DNS, sQL, and some other servers.  What he would like to know is the
pros and cons of having a DSL connection/service provided by a local ISP
as compared to the local phone company (Bell South) that also provides a
DSL service.

Any comment is certainly a welcome.

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

PS> Remove the "4" from e-mail address to respond.

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From: Ronald Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: RH6.0 and masquerading/ppp problem?
Date: 19 Aug 1999 16:22:25 -0700

Ronald Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'm running a firewall with RH6.0 using IP Masquerading on a dialup
> ppp connection.  From a machine on my internal network (also running
> RH6.0), if I start, say, reading a news active file and then do a
> ping, I get a lot of messages about byte 8 not being correct and the
> packet ultimately being considered lost.  This only seems to happen
> when I'm saturating the dialup connection.  Less often, ppp0 will
> screw up: if I ping, I can see the packet go out on the modem and then
> something coming back, but all the packets seem to be getting dropped
> and the connection is pretty much useless.
> 
> Has anyone else seen this?

More info:
1.  when pinging while saturating the incoming connection, ifconfig
    doesn't report any errors.
2.  when the connection hangs, ifconfig ppp0 reports RX and frame errors
    on every packet.

Here's a ping on my firewall machine to my isp while I'm saturating
the incoming connection:
$ ping iwvisp.com
PING iwvisp.com (207.141.203.5) from 207.141.203.99 : 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 207.141.203.5: icmp_seq=0 ttl=198 time=676.7 ms
64 bytes from 207.141.203.5: icmp_seq=1 ttl=198 time=199.8 ms
64 bytes from 207.141.203.5: icmp_seq=2 ttl=198 time=1430.4 ms
wrong data byte #8 should be 0x53 but was 0x52
        52 81 bc 37 6e 94 6 0 8 9 a b c d e f 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b 1c 
1d 1e 1f 
        20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 2a 2b 2c 2d 2e 2f 
64 bytes from 207.141.203.5: icmp_seq=3 ttl=198 time=1280.1 ms
wrong data byte #8 should be 0x54 but was 0x53
        53 81 bc 37 81 95 6 0 8 9 a b c d e f 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b 1c 
1d 1e 1f 
        20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 2a 2b 2c 2d 2e 2f 
64 bytes from 207.141.203.5: icmp_seq=4 ttl=198 time=1459.5 ms
wrong data byte #8 should be 0x55 but was 0x54
        54 81 bc 37 2f 97 6 0 8 9 a b c d e f 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b 1c 
1d 1e 1f 
        20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 2a 2b 2c 2d 2e 2f 
64 bytes from 207.141.203.5: icmp_seq=5 ttl=198 time=1149.4 ms
wrong data byte #8 should be 0x56 but was 0x55
        55 81 bc 37 79 99 6 0 8 9 a b c d e f 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 1a 1b 1c 
1d 1e 1f 
        20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 2a 2b 2c 2d 2e 2f 
64 bytes from 207.141.203.5: icmp_seq=6 ttl=198 time=309.6 ms
64 bytes from 207.141.203.5: icmp_seq=7 ttl=198 time=444.2 ms
64 bytes from 207.141.203.5: icmp_seq=8 ttl=198 time=150.2 ms
64 bytes from 207.141.203.5: icmp_seq=9 ttl=198 time=140.2 ms

-- 
Forte International, P.O. Box 1412, Ridgecrest, CA  93556-1412
Ronald Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>      Phone: (760) 499-9142
President, CEO                             Fax: (760) 499-9152
My PGP fingerprint: 15 6E C7 91 5F AF 17 C4  24 93 CB 6B EB 38 B5 E5

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Collin W. Hitchcock)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: *nix vs. MS security
Date: 19 Aug 1999 17:45:36 -0400


It sounds like your professor is making a lot of assumptions and
drawing some overly general conclusions instead of giving you all the
facts that you need to make a decision on your own.  Since you are
taking courses at the college level your professor should expect you
to be able to think for yourself.

Here are my thoughts:

All the security holes in any piece of software will eventually be
found.  The only alternative to this is that the software will
eventually become obsolete -- nobody will use it so it won't matter if
it still has security holes.  But people hugely underestimate the
lifetime of most pieces of software.  Huge numbers of people have been
employed recently sifting through 1960's code with 2 digit dates
because not even in their wildest dreams did 1960's programmers
believe that their software would last 3+ decades.  Writing software
to last forever is the only responsible thing to do.

So your software will last forever and all the bugs will eventually be
found.  Do you want them found fairly quickly at the beginning of the
software's life or more gradually?  The Linux approach results in
quick discoveries and fixes.  The Microsoft approach results in a more
gradual discovery.  I submit that the quick fix approach is better.
After the initial flurry of security problems the product becomes
stable and secure.

The Microsoft camp might argue that Microsoft is more likely to
discover and fix problems in its software itself so that they will
never be exploited.  However, Microsoft has no compelling reason to
devote large amounts of resources to the task.  From a corporate point
of view, spending money on something must be justified by an expected
payoff and spending money on security testing is no exception.  The
expected payoff (the possibility of avoiding a public relations hit)
is small for all but the most serious bugs.  Announcing a fix for a
bug that is unknown to the public and not likely to be discovered for
some time produces bad publicity for no good corporate reason.  When
is the last time that Microsoft announced a patch for a security hole
which was not brought to the public attention by someone outside
Microsoft?  If any holes are discovered internally, the fixes are
presumably included in in the "Service Packs", but between the time
that the hole is discovered and the service pack is released, systems
are running with a security hole that Microsoft knows about but for
which it hasn't provided a fix or even notification.

The Linux quick fix results in security after an unsecure but fairly
short shakedown period.  The Microsoft approach results in a long
drawn out debugging with lots of possible ethical problems.

Collin

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Subject: Linux on a 286
From: "Noah Roberts (jik-)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 19 Aug 1999 16:58:22 -0700

I have heard this is possible, but I am at a loss of were to start
looking.  I checked www.linux.org a bit.  I know this is not possible
with the normal setup, but I have heard it is *possible* and I want to 
know how.  A freind brought over a 286 laptop and wants Linux on it.

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From: "Robert Grizzard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there a website for minimalist Linux users?
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 18:32:57 -0500

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey all you hardcore commandline users! Keeping that 486 alive, eh? I'm
> just tired of all these apps intended for the wicked blazing smoking
> kick ass 450Mhz-toting user.
> So how much fun can I have? YOU tell ME. I want to make my pitiful 486
> sweat without making it crawl! No KDE, No GNOME. So what do YOU run on
> YOUR box? Did you make it a game server? Gateway router? What?

Slackware 4.0 and straight CLI.  No gooey GUI to clog the arteries of 
this tired 486.  (Take a look at the headers of this message.)

Rob


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From: Young4ert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: [Q] Upgrading gcc-2.95 on SuSE-6.1 Linux Distro
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 19:57:08 -0400

Graham Murray wrote:
> 
> In comp.os.linux.development.apps, Young4ert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > However, before I can install these gcc-2.95 binary packages, I would
> > like to know which development packages from SuSE-6.1 Linux distro need
> > be removed.  Can anyone please shed some light in this matter?
> 
> Quite simply none. As long as you install it correctly, gcc 2.95 can
> co-exist with the earlier versions. 2.95 will replace gcc itself and
> create a new version specific directory under /usr/lib/gcc-lib/. Then
> when you run gcc, you can select which version compiler is used using
> the -V version command line option.

Unfortunately, I was looking for an upgrade not a co-existance of
several gcc compilers.  Anyway,  thank you for the response.

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

PS> Remove the "4" from e-mail address to respond.

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From: "Robert Grizzard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Need Help w/ Modem--"Sorry modem is busy" error
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:28:08 -0500

[followups reset to comp.os.linux.hardware]

In comp.os.linux.hardware [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   Mark McComb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Robert Grizzard wrote:
>> >
>> > and I have to ask, "Do you have a file in /var/lock called something
> like
>> > 'LCK..ttyS1' or 'LCK..modem'?"
>> >
>>
>> >
>> > Not permissions; if you do have the LCK.. file then the modem is
> actually
>> > flagged as being in use by some other program and none other may
> access it.
>> >
>> > HTH
>> >
>> > Rob
>>
>> I am getting the "modem is locked" message.  I checked and I do have
>> a LCK..modem file.  Now what?  Do I delete it?  The file contains
> this:
>>
>> 00798 kppp user
>>
>> I am trying to set up my modem for use with KPPP.  If it's the user,
> why
>> won't it unlock the file for itself?
>>
> I am awaiting a reply to this question myself, as I am a lurker with the
> EXACT same problem.

I saw the question in my E-mail first so I answered it there.

In a nutshell, a program accessing the modem exited in an abnormal 
fashion (via "halt" in the middle of a minicom session perhaps) 
and it didn't get the opportunity to do any housekeeping
-- which means /var/lock/LCK..modem is still there and when ppp goes
to set itself up it looks to see if the modem is available and 
discovers it isn't.  The fact the process that wrote the lock 
file has been dead for three days is immaterial as long as that 
file is still there.

Run "less /var/lock/LCK..modem (or whatever the name of the file 
is)" and see what program wrote it then run "ps ax | grep 
<name_of_program>" and look for *two* hits -- one from grep 
and one from the process that wrote the lock file.  If there is 
no second hit then delete the lock file and kppp should run normally.

> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Varela)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.apps,alt.os.linux,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Can I switch from OS/2 to Linux and be happy?
Date: 20 Aug 1999 00:48:29 GMT

On Thu, 19 Aug 1999 18:00:22, Brad BARCLAY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

>     This can actually be a good thing for the OS/2 community - as we slowly
> wean ourselves off DOS and Windows applications, this support in OS/2
> will no longer be needed, saving all of us hard disk space, and
> improving system performence (the OS can be run entirely in protected
> mode).

There are a few Windows apps that have no equivalent in OS/2.  The 
principal one for me is Excel 5.1 -- because I like to print 
spreadsheets in my Deskjet's built-in 20-pitch Courier, which the 
Windows driver recognizes but the Omni driver does not.

Any idea why the Omni driver doesn't recognize built-in fonts?

--
John Varela
to e-mail, remove - between mind and spring

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Comparison needed: *BSD vs. Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 00:52:13 GMT

On Thu, 19 Aug 1999 22:46:45 +0200, Sasa Babic
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
>I am new in non Micro$oft OS area. As I was learning about Linux, I found 
>out about *BSD.
>
>I am wondering what are the differences between FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD 
>and Linux. You know, good sides and bad sides. Anyone with some spare 
>time?

- They don't use the GPL.  That's either good or bad, depending on
  one's Point Of View.

- They use a different TCP/IP stack, in which they have great pride.
  At one point, it was *vastly* better than the Linux TCP/IP code; the
  difference in quality has diminished over time, but may still
  persist.  Whether that is significant depends again on one's Point
  Of View.

- I think the BSD's all use named CVS for management of the sources
  for their kernels, unlike the situation with Linux where Linus
  Torvalds is the arbitrator of what goes into the kernel.  Whether
  that is significant depends on (no surprises here) one's Point Of
  View.

- Linux has over 140 distinct distributions, whereas the BSD's
  basically have three.  Whether good or bad?  P.O.V.

- The BSD's have a common "Ports" system that is somewhat analagous to
  RPM or the Debian package system.  Ports is almost certainly better
  crafted than RPM as a source code-oriented package management
  system; the comparison with DPKG is less clear.  Again... P.O.V.

- There has been much flaming back and forth about who's got the best
  filesystems.  Again, P.O.V. issues come in.

- Much flaming comes in over BSD's being "truly UNIXes," whilst Linux
  isn't.  The arguments are somewhat abtruse; it is reasonably that
  some Linux will be certified as an Officially Branded UNIX(tm)
  before this happens to any of the *BSDs, and on that day, there will
  doubtless be *massive* flamage that those that are wise will avoid.

- Many makers of Linux distributions have worked hard to try to make
  it "friendly even to the moderately computer illiterate."  The BSD's
  have largely eschewed this; they're a bit off-putting to newbies.
  This puts off those that are Not Serious, which has some tendancy to
  result in "Linux being for Dummies," whilst there are few "dummies"
  running *BSD.

- Some of the BSD projects appear to have been plagued by personality
  conflicts, and there are some "very strong personalities" in those
  communities.  In contrast, Linus, the "dictator" of Linux,
  occasionally swears at people, which tends *not* to be taken badly.
  If you try to evaluate this in a formal way, contradictions *leap*
  out of the woodwork; it just doesn't all make sense...

There are people that very happily run {Net|Open|Free}BSD; there are
people that can't abide them.  

Probably the most "novice-friendly" is FreeBSD; it's well worth going
through the experience of installing one of the BSD's and looking to
see how they compare at some point.

-- 
As of next Monday, MACLISP will no longer support list structure.
Please downgrade your programs.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/unixbsd.html>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux vs. Unix
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 00:52:24 GMT

On 19 Aug 1999 14:52:13 GMT, Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Floyd Davidson) wrote:
>>>Vilmos Soti  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>Chris wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is this the same Barrow, Alsaka that's the Northernmost city in
>>>>> America?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>No. Barrow (which is the northermost city in the US) is not the
>>>>one in America. That would go to Alert, Canada, (if we can call
>>>>these cities...) which is way north of the (magnetic) north
>>>>pole.
>>>
>>>Alert, Canada???  I've never heard of it!
>>
>>It's a radar base at the most northern tip of Canada, and about as far
>>north as you can get anywhere in the world and still have solid land 
>>under your feet.  There's only a very small bit of land further north 
>>than it anywhere.  Take a look at a globe sometime and you'll find it 
>>right beside the north end of Greenland, about 500 miles south of the 
>>north pole.
>
>Radar sites (i.e., LRR, SRR, BMEWS and DEWLINE) are something I
>am very familiar with, but I still have never heard of this city
>called Alert, Canada.

It's got the international station code YLT on SABRE.  

There do not exist scheduled flights to that station; it is
nonetheless a well-known CF base of operations.
-- 
"For systems, the analogue of a face-lift is to add to the control
graph an edge that creates a cycle, not just an additional node."
-- Alan Perlis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>

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From: Mevacor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: phplib and phpslash
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 00:30:49 GMT

I just downloaded phplib and phpslash today and proceeded to install both
on my system. However, it is only working sometimes. In addition, I also
have phpmyadmin to access the slashdot database. When the latter works,
phpslash does not. And when phpslash works, phpmyadmin does not for the
specific slashdot mysql database. The error I am getting it below:

Fatal error: Cannot extend non existant class DB_Sql in ./config.php3 on
line 13

Can anyone help me out? I like the layout of Slashdot.org a lot. I want to
have a personal edition of Slashdot.org! Thanks in advance.

Kai

==================  Posted via CNET Linux Help  ==================
                    http://www.searchlinux.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Benedict Chong)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux vs. Unix
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 23:51:35 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 10 Aug 1999 18:16:08 -0500, Joseph Crowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>
>   Actually, no, this is not the case anymore.  Although Linux probably
>runs on more ISAs than anything else, there are a number of UNIX variants
>that run on Intel x86, including FreeBSD, OpenBSD, SCO UnixWare and Sun's
>Solaris.  Also, SGI has some x86 offerings now.  

Not forgetting all the Unices that used to run on 8086 XTs (... yep,
those existed) and 286 ATs.

Ben

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: *nix vs. MS security
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 00:52:16 GMT

On 19 Aug 1999 11:44:19 -0700, Kevin Esme Cowles
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
>In article <zkJu3.12219$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>[ ... ]
>
>>b) In terms of security, I suggest you think again.  
>>
>>If you want to talk about formal security certifications, there are
>>UNIX systems rated as high as B1 by the NSA/NIST.  NT is only rated
>>C2, and that is only true for version 3.51, with *networking turned
>>off.*
>>
>><http://www.radium.ncsc.mil/tpep/epl/epl-by-class.html>
>
>Just a nit.
>
>I personally admin a system with a B2 rated OS (DG/UX), and the page 
>that you listed even refers to a B3 system (yes I know it's stupid, but
>lower letters are more secure, and higher numbers are secure).

Pardon me; yes, you're quite right.

B3 is indeed "more secure" than B1, and I did know this.  When I said
B1, I really did mean to indicate B3.  Trusted Xenix is listed by TPEP
as a B3 system.

The fact that numbers increase to indicate greater security whilst
letters decrease to indicate the same thing is a Fairly Confusing
Thing.

>And while I'm a huge fan of open source, I'll point out that these
>systems are not open source.  Their code has been reviewed, very
>thoroughly, for any possible security vulnerabilities, as part of the
>certification process.  But they definitely do not allow the general
>public to see the source code.  So to a certain extent, the do rely
>on security through obscurity to prevent any vulnerabilites that do
>exist from being easily found.

I'm not sure that obscurity is a security goal as much as it is a
"preserving the proprietary value of expensive systems" goal.

Justification could be mustered to the effect that:
 "The source code has been thoroughly reviewed by security auditors
  and (probably) by automated analysis tools.  Once audited, it is
  preferable to keep the sources secret so as to prevent attackers
  from looking for vulnerabilities."

I'd bet more money on the *true* and *useful* causality being the
(likely unstated) reason that:
 "The source code has been thoroughly reviewed, at great co$t to the
  vendor.  We don't give out sources to other OS products that we
  sell; we're certainly not going to give out this code that we
  inve$ted an extra few $million in."

-- 
:FATAL ERROR -- YOU ARE OUT OF VECTOR SPACE
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>

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From: "R. Fiato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on a 286
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 21:00:09 -0400

"Noah Roberts (jik-)" wrote:
> 
> I have heard this is possible, but I am at a loss of were to start
> looking.  I checked www.linux.org a bit.  I know this is not possible
> with the normal setup, but I have heard it is *possible* and I want to
> know how.  A freind brought over a 286 laptop and wants Linux on it.

AFAIK, the system assembly code uses 386 instructions for task
switching, etc., which is why they say that it runs on i386 instead of
ix86.  Someone would have to change the assembly code each time that
relevant parts of it change; I highly doubt that's happening.  Even if
running on a 286 were possible, it would be really slow (I used to use a 386/33).

Your best bet would probably be to upgrade... Sorry...

BTW, Where did you hear that it was possible... I can't say I've heard
that before...

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: DFW area Linux User Groups??
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 00:52:10 GMT

On Wed, 18 Aug 1999 23:22:58 GMT, William B. Cattell
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
>Does anyone know of any Dallas-Ft. Worth area Linux User
>Groups?  There use to be one that would meet at the Infomart
>on third Sat. each month.

Possibly NTLUG?

This month's meeting takes place this Saturday morning (e.g. -
Aug. 21st) at the Nokia offices right by McArthur & HWY 161.

Things start at about 10am; see <http://www.ntlug.org> for more
details...
-- 
If a logical expression is hard to understand, try transforming it.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux file-size limit?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 01:28:20 GMT

On Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:54:55 -0600, John Thompson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
>>         1. Is there a limit to the file size hardcoded in the
>>kernel? 
>
>AFAIK, this is an intrinsic limitation of the filesystem.

Apparently what you *think* you know isn't correct.  The ext2
filesystem supports files of up to 1TB in size.

The standard file access API on 32 bit architectures is what can't
handle more than 2GB.

>>2. What do I have to recompile in order to solve this or get around
>>it? 
>
>Rather than backing up to another partition, you can backup
>to a device that does not use a filesystem; eg, a tape
>drive.  Tar can handle multi-gigabyte archives on a tape
>drive without size limitation problems beyond the physical
>limitations of the media used.

Have you tried this so as to verify the veracity of this claim?

The *true* problem is that the data structure used to hold the pointer
that indicates how far into an input stream you are is only 32 bits.

TAR doesn't get you around this problem...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Any free SQL server available?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 01:28:08 GMT

On Thu, 19 Aug 1999 15:04:28 GMT, Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 18 Aug 1999 09:17:15 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>"WME" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> > Not too mention the fact that PostgreSQL is more full-featured, supporting
>>> a
>>> > whole bunch of goodies that MySQL doesn't (like transactions).  It is also
>>Last time I look at both PostgreSQL and MySQL, it was the opposite.
>>See http://www.tcx.se/crash-me.html
>>Its a big chart and will take sometime to load but compares all the
>>databases, not just the free ones.
>
>What's the deal with accessing PostgreSQL from Access and other
>Windows products? Any ODBC support?

PostgreSQL supports the SQL-CLI standard for remote access.

Most ODBC implementations appear to be emulations of the SQL-CLI
standard to one degree or another; they may work...
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Rules of the Evil Overlord #58. "I will make sure I have a clear
understanding of who is responsible for what in my organization. For
example, if my general screws up I will not draw my weapon, point it
at him, say "And here is the price for failure," then suddenly turn
and kill some random underling." 
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From: Rachel Chung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Can't login !! Help !!
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 21:38:42 -0400

I installed Red Hat 6.0 and got GUI prompt to ask me ID and password to
enter Gnome environment previously.

For unkonwn reason, I only got blue screen after power on and am not
able to log in becasue there is no GUI pop-up window to let me type in
ID and password. I can "CTRL+ALT+F1" to break into text mode login
prompt. But How can I get the GUI-based Login window back?


Thanks for your help!!!

Rachel Chung


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