Linux-Misc Digest #549, Volume #21               Thu, 26 Aug 99 17:13:13 EDT

Contents:
  Call for Participation: The Bazaar Dec 14-16, 1999 NYC ("The Bazaar")
  Re: Ad Extinguisher -- Pollution Control for the Internet (Tom Fawcett)
  Re: Changing core files ("Christopher W. Aiken")
  Re: Linux viruses? (Mitja)
  Re: Best language for graphical apps? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  GNU hp2xx-3.3.ALPHA released (HPGL converter) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  DIALD: no surfing & disconnect after start (Bas van Weelde)
  vgetty - cant get it to release modem (Allan)
  Re: It's crashed yet again! ("G. Pollack")
  Re: Oops, Need some repair help (Heeeeeeeez back!)
  Performance Counter (Jun Sawada)
  Re: Best language for graphical apps? (Heeeeeeeez back!)
  Re: My Linux crashes more often than M$ (Charles E. Taylor IV)
  Re: My Linux crashes more often than M$ (Spike!)
  Re: Tcl/Tk.  I want to learn it. (Spike!)
  Re: No headers? (Colin Watson)

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From: "The Bazaar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Call for Participation: The Bazaar Dec 14-16, 1999 NYC
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:43:25 -0400

CALL FOR PARTICIPATION
The Bazaar
An EarthWeb Event
December 14, 15, and 16, 1999
Jacob K. Javitz Center, New York, NY

The Bazaar is the foremost interactive educational event in support of the
free and open source software movement.  This movement, founded and
supported through a massive global development community, embodies two major
segments of the software industry committed to solving complex computing
problems for users, notably in the area of enterprise and internet-based
development:

1) The Free and Open Source Community - this community is composed of the
visionaries, risk takers, designers, coders, and maintainers of the growing
number of foundation technologies available today as free and open source
software.

2) Product and Service Companies  - leadership software, hardware and
service enterprises motivated by the passion and excellence of the community
and driven by the promise of the resultant technologies.  Product companies
embrace the foundation projects and build upon them.  They also insure that
popular layered application, tools, middleware, languages, and more can live
with, and enhance, the open source accomplishments.

The Bazaar is the only conference to provide a separate but equal voice to
both parties for the benefit of the end user. The Bazaar not only provides
an environment for the visionaries of Open Source to meet and discuss
current and future advancements in the community but also provides the only
hands-on and workshop oriented instruction for users taught by leading
product and education companies in the industry.

SUBMISSIONS:
The Bazaar is accepting submissions from these two major contributing areas:
1) The Community and Projects
2) Product Implementations and Case Studies

Community and Projects:
The Bazaar welcomes submissions that support any and all projects relevant
to the Open Source movement.  A submission can take the following forms:

* Project status and live demonstration.
* Practice reports highlighting personal experiences with the use of
particular project in a controlled environment.
* Experience reports highlighting multi-user/team efforts, cross platform or
interoperability exercises, enterprise or mission critical system
development and collaborative efforts between projects.
* Advanced technology briefings defining development efforts 12-24 months
out.

Each submission will be evaluated for technical excellence and community
and/or industry relevance.

Product Implementations and Case Studies:

Many Fortune 500 companies are purchasing or considering implementations of
Linux, Apache, and other Open Source projects.  Traditional buying habits
dictate a requirement of solid support from the vendor community to insure
rapid acceptance of the technologies and approaches.  In turn, vendors are
dependent on advances provided by the open source development efforts to
serve as a baseline for many of their own products.  Vendors who can
illustrate a commitment to the community by:
* Selling or servicing a distribution.
* Providing education on any open source technology or variant.
* Having ported enterprise, application, or development products to Linux.
* Providing services or tools in support of Apache.
* Developing their own open source or free software project.
* Promoting or using other open source projects within a product suite.

are eligible to present at The Bazaar.  A select number of vendors will be
given the opportunity to deliver hands-on sessions or interactive
architectural workshops that highlight their product, service or educational
efforts.  A limited number of 300 desktop Linux systems will be made
available to teach development methodologies, products or product suites.

Submissions may take the following form:
* Tutorials
* Case Studies (technical content required)
* Workshops (limited classroom size, interactive, with pre-registration
required)
* Hands-on Instruction (limited classroom size, interactive,  with
pre-registration required)
* Product Status

Submissions will be evaluated for:
* Technical and educational merit
* Relevancy to the market place and industry
* Support of the community

SUBMISSION PROCESS:
Authors are requested to submit complete papers and abstracts by September
17, 1999. All submissions must be in electronic form, in PostScript or PDF,
Word or HTML. Please include the following information:

NAME:
TITLE:
COMPANY OR AFFILIATION:
VENDOR OR PROJECT (select one):
PHONE:
EMAIL:
FAX:

* SUBMISSION TITLE:
* AREA OF SPECIALITY (e.g. Security):
* TARGET AUDIENCE (technical or management):
* FORM OF PRESENATION (ie Experience report, tutorial, etc):
* PROPOSED LENGTH OF TALK, WORKSHOP, OR HANDS-ON SESSION: SOFTWARE/HARDWARE
INSTALLATION REQUIREMENTS FOR HANDS-ON:
* DESCRIPTION (500 words or less):

If you are proposing a hands-on sessions please specify whether you are
requesting a 3 or 5 hour slot.  Shorter sessions will not be considered.  If
a topic warrants more than 5 hours of hands-on please specify as it may
qualify for a special boot camp.

Please submit all entries to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Authors will be notified
of receipt of submission via e-mail. If you do not receive notification,
contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  For more information or instruction on how to
submit to The Bazaar please contact Lydia Bennett, Conference Chair,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  General information on The Bazaar can be found at
http://www.thebazaar.org.





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From: Tom Fawcett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ad Extinguisher -- Pollution Control for the Internet
Date: 26 Aug 1999 14:11:59 -0400

"Travis S. Metcalfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I recently found out about a C++ program that filters advertisements and
> (optionally) animated GIFs out of web pages and replaces them with
> little black lightning bolts. It was written for Win95/NT and the full
> source has been released under GPL (see http://www.ispec.net/adext/).
> I'm very interested in seeing it ported to Linux, but I lack the skills
> necessary to do so myself. If anyone else is interested in this project,
> please contact me -- the internet is only getting more commercial, and I
> already have a bad case of information overload...

The Internet Junkbuster Proxy is already pretty close to this.  Runs on
lots of platforms and is GPLed.

http://www.junkbusters.com/ht/en/ijbfaq.html

As far as I know, the proxy filters only by URL pattern and not by content,
so it probably couldn't filter only animated GIFs.

-Tom

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From: "Christopher W. Aiken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.programmer
Subject: Re: Changing core files
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:52:26 -0400

Just run your apps in different directories.

...cwa


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hello readers.
>
> Is there anyway a program can change the file name
> of the core file from 'core' to something else
> when abort() is called?
>
> I'm using Linux, and if I have two programs working
> closely together in a common wcd, I don't want one
> program's core file to overwrite the other program's
> core file.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Godwin DaVinci
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

--
===================================================================
Christopher W. Aiken
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
SuSE 6.1, Kernel 2.2.7
Mandrake 6.0, Kernel 2.2.9

The box said 'WIN95/98 or better.' so I installed LINUX!



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From: Mitja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux viruses?
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 20:56:37 +0200

I using AntiVir for Linux from http://www.hbdev.com
                                         http://www.antivir.de

Mitja
http://www2.arnes.si/~ljitis1


On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, Jonathan Penalber wrote:
>I haven't come across any antivirus programs for Linux.  Are viruses not a
>problem on this platform?
>
>Jonathan


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Best language for graphical apps?
Date: 26 Aug 1999 11:54:06 -0700

"Max Reason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[snip]
>   1.  XBasic is fully compiler-based and you can make executables.
>   2.  XBasic is available for both Windows and Linux (compatible).
>   3.  XBasic is freeware and you can download via the internet.
>   4.  XBasic function protocol is compatible with C / Linux / Win32.
> 
>  See http://www.maxreason.com/software/xbasic/xbasic.html for
>  more information and downloading if XBasic seems appropriate
>  for your purposes.
[snip]

XBasic also is not Free Software
(http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html).  you can't modify and
redistribute it, and I'm not sure source is even available.

if you want to write Free Software, life will be much easier for your
users if you use tools that are Free Software, such as tcl, perl, tk,
gtk, fltk, wxWindows, STk, etc.

andru
-- 
========================================================================== 
| Andru Luvisi                 | http://libweb.sonoma.edu/               |
| Programmer/Analyst           |   Library Resources Online              | 
| Ruben Salazar Library        |-----------------------------------------| 
| Sonoma State University      | http://www.belleprovence.com/           |
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]      |   Textile imports from Provence, France |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: gnu.announce,gnu.utils.bug,alt.sources.d
Subject: GNU hp2xx-3.3.ALPHA released (HPGL converter)
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:51:51 GMT

hp2xx-3.3.ALPHA
HP-GL plotfile previewer and converter

Several years have passed now since the last release, 3.2.0, of HP2XX was
made by its original author, Heinz W. Werntges. 

As both the FSF and the previous contributors to hp2xx have lost contact
with him, I have combined my own extensions to his work with the existing
patches pointed out or sent to me by people I contacted in my search or who
were put in touch with me by the FSF. 

While it does what I needed it for, this is still by no means stable or even
rigorously tested. Production systems should still prefer hp2xx-3.2.0, which
is still available from ftp.gnu.org and its mirrors.

Hence this is version 3.3.ALPHA - if you download it from alpha.gnu.org, 
please do not redistribute it on other sites or CDs, let me know immediately 
if you find any bugs, and check alpha.gnu.org and ftp.gnu.org frequently 
for newer versions. 

I would greatly appreciate receiving bug reports, patches or even sample 
HPGL files. (In the latter cases, please make sure that no copyright or 
confidentiality agreements are violated before sending any materials.)

Unless something serious comes up, I plan to release the true 3.3.0 on 
ftp.gnu.org on October 1, 1999. 

Martin Kroeker, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] OR [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Disclaimer: while I currently work for Daveg GmbH and they have generously 
            waived their rights (as per German employment laws) on the code 
            I wrote for hp2xx, this software is totally unrelated to, and 
            not endorsed by, Daveg GmbH. 

See the file 'copying' (i.e. the GNU GPL) for license and warranty
information.

New features in 3.3.ALPHA:
- Character set support for fonts 1-7, and the 'upper half' of font 0.
- Support for most character-related commands (CA,CS,SA,SS)
- Support for the IW (input window, i.e. clipping) command
- Partial support for the PE (polyline encoded) command (integer coords
only)
- Output generation for Brian Smith's XFig
- Output generation for Gnuplot
- Output generation in PNG format
- Automatic medium size selection code in the PCL initialization sequence
- Centering (-C) now supported even in true-size (-t) mode
- HPGL/2 Pen Color and Pen Width support 

including contributions by:
Emmanuel Bigler, Eugene Doudine, Ian McPhedran, Michael Schmitz,
Rolf Schreck and probably forgotten others - those should please complain...


-- 
Dr. Martin Kroeker, daVeg GmbH Darmstadt  CAD/CAM/CAQ  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: Bas van Weelde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: DIALD: no surfing & disconnect after start
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:25:49 +0200

I installed diald on my Linux SuSE 6.1 server. Now when I start Netscape
and try to open the mailbox or try to surf, nothing happens. After some
30 seconds, automatically the modem (diald) shuts off. What can be the
case here? Did any of you guys had this before? How do I change this,
and where?
So to be able to read and to surf, I use the good old wvdial again. no
gadgets.

Something else: how do I surf the Web from a Win95 workstation which is
connected to the Linux box where Samba runs? I Use Moft (Microsoft) I.O.
but nothing happens here?

I really would be grateful to you guys!!!

Bas van Weelde

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From: Allan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: vgetty - cant get it to release modem
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 19:30:57 GMT

Hi,
I have enabled vgetty (a respawn.... line in a boot up file).  When I try 
to use wvdial to dial out it fails becuase vgetty has the modem.  Killing 
vgetty (kill -9 xxx) doesnt work becuase it relaunches.

What is the proper way toget vgetty to release the modem?

TIA

==================  Posted via CNET Linux Help  ==================
                    http://www.searchlinux.com

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From: "G. Pollack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: It's crashed yet again!
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:17:09 GMT

kev wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Another X lock-up.
> This time after returning to the machine, moving the mouse (may have
> pressed a button too while movig it) to get rid of screensaver, but
> instead, the screensaver carried on running, but with an error message
> in the top corner of the screen something like "Unable to grab pointer".
> 
> Any idea why it does this?
> How to stop it doing this?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> - Kev

I had problems similar to some of those you describe until I switched
window managers (in my case, from AfterStep 1.0 to WindowMaker 0.52). I
recommend trying other window managers (preferably starting with
something relatively simple and robust, e.g. fvwm) and seeing whether
the problem goes away. 
-- 
Gerald Pollack
Dept. of Biology, McGill University

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From: Heeeeeeeez back! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Oops, Need some repair help
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 06:41:52 +0100

Jeanette Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>    I was using dosemu and had a crash.  When I rebooted I got this message,
> An error occurred in file system check dropping you to shell.  The system
> will now reboot when you leave the shell.  

When you are dropped into an emergency session during reboot, the only
command you should run is fsck /dev/hda<whatever>

It means the fsck run during bootup to check on file system integrity failed
and needs to be run manually. Most file systems are not mounted when this
happens. (Hence, a lot of programs won't work, like X for example.)

When you got the error message, it will have informed you which partition
failed the check, so just run fsck on that partition.

(It's basically the same process as when Win95 isn't cleanly shutdown and it
runs scandisk, only this way offers the user much more control.)
-- 
______________________________________________________________________________
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] |                                                |
|    Andrew Halliwell BSc   |"The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't |
|             in            | suck is probably the day they start making     |
|      Computer Science     | vacuum cleaners" - Ernst Jan Plugge            |
==============================================================================
|GCv3.12 GCS>$ d-(dpu) s+/- a C++ US++ P L/L+ E-- W+ N++ o+ K PS+  w-- M+/++ |
|PS+++ PE- Y t+ 5++ X+/X++ R+ tv+ b+ DI+ D+ G e++ h/h+ !r!|  Space for hire  |
==============================================================================

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From: Jun Sawada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Performance Counter
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:39:15 -0500

I am looking for a way to measure the number of instructions executed in
a program.  I also heard that Intel's processor has a sort of
performance counter that records the number of instructions.  Is there
any OS support for this type of performance benchmarking?  Or can you
access to the register from  a user program directly?  How can I access
the register?

I would appreciate any information that you have. 


-- Jun Sawada
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]       http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/sawada/
   University of Texas at Austin, Department of Computer Sciences,
   Taylor Hall 2.124, Austin, TX, 78712-1188, USA   +1(512)471-9749

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From: Heeeeeeeez back! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Best language for graphical apps?
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 06:34:00 +0100

Sean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I wrote an app for windows and now I want to write a Linux version.  I am a
> Linux newbie and I don't know hoe to use GTK or any X library for C.  But
> if it's only for an app that sets enviroment variables it doesn't need the
> speed of C and I'm not really good in C anyways.  But what language is the
> easiest to write GUI apps?  Preferably with a graphical frontend.  I want
> to code this app as fast as possible.  It doesn't need to be fast or
> small.  I just want it to look good and be easy.

TCL/TK?

It's a cross-platform scripting language, avaiilable for windross and
unix/linux. There are quite a few tools for it, including GUI developement
tools, IIRC.

-- 
______________________________________________________________________________
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] |                                                |
|    Andrew Halliwell BSc   |"The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't |
|             in            | suck is probably the day they start making     |
|      Computer Science     | vacuum cleaners" - Ernst Jan Plugge            |
==============================================================================
|GCv3.12 GCS>$ d-(dpu) s+/- a C++ US++ P L/L+ E-- W+ N++ o+ K PS+  w-- M+/++ |
|PS+++ PE- Y t+ 5++ X+/X++ R+ tv+ b+ DI+ D+ G e++ h/h+ !r!|  Space for hire  |
==============================================================================

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles E. Taylor IV)
Subject: Re: My Linux crashes more often than M$
Date: 26 Aug 1999 17:09:42 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        kev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> All my windows get closed and I get taken back to the login screen (dialog
> box, ie X running).
> I use Gnome with Enlightenment.

Does it happen if you use KDE (or some other desktop) instead 
of Gnome/enlightenment?

-- 
Charles E. "Rick" Taylor, IV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://orangesherbert.ces.clemson.edu
"We got the MRxL, and you got none!"

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From: Spike! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: My Linux crashes more often than M$
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 20:53:29 +0100

kev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,

> Well it's just done it again! I'm using Red Hat 6, and every now and
> then, it just decides to log me out, thus losing all unsaved information
> from the apps I had open. It doesn't give any hint that anything is
> wrong, it just logs me out. This is _very_ annoying. What was that about
> Linux being the stablest OS there is?

Looks to me that the OS isn't crashing... It's logging you out.  

Does it do it while you're working on it or when it's been inactive for a
while? Do you get any core dumps popping up in your home directory?

> So I'm forced to appeal to you guys to give me some insight into what is
> wrong. Again. I've had so many problems with RH6, I spend far too much
> time trying to fix problems when I should be using it to be productive.

> Do non-Red Hat users have these problems?

I don't. SuSE offers me the OPTION of having an autologout after a certain
amount of idle time on the console, but I leave it off...
(And as it's taken care of by YaST, I don't know where to switch it on/off)

-- 
______________________________________________________________________________
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] |                                                |
|    Andrew Halliwell BSc   | "ARSE! GERLS!! DRINK! DRINK! DRINK!!!"         |
|             in            | "THAT WOULD BE AN ECUMENICAL MATTER!...FECK!!!!|
|      Computer Science     | - Father Jack in "Father Ted"                  |
==============================================================================
|GCv3.12 GCS>$ d-(dpu) s+/- a C++ US++ P L/L+ E-- W+ N++ o+ K PS+  w-- M+/++ |
|PS+++ PE- Y t+ 5++ X+/X++ R+ tv+ b+ DI+ D+ G e++ h/h+ !r!|  Space for hire  |
==============================================================================

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From: Spike! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Tcl/Tk.  I want to learn it.
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 19:47:03 +0100

Sean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

> Now I know it's not visual* and I like that but can someone tell me where
> I can get EVERYTHING I need to make apps in Tcl/Tk and where to download
> them all.  

In modern distributions like Red Hat and SuSE, Tcl/Tk comes on the CDs.
There is some documentation included, but a good book you could try is
called "Tcl and the Tk toolkit" by John Ousterhout.
(He's the creator of tcl/tk).

As well as some good tutorials since I've never even seen
> Tcl/Tk code yet but I want tutorials that go beyond the basics.  I'm going
> to start with an app that sets enviroment variables for me.  That's what
> I'm starting with.  I'm running Mandrake 6.0 (the newbie distribution!)
> with kernels 2.2.9 & 2.3.13.  Thanks for any reply but please e-mail it to
> me instaed of posting it :)

Search your Mandrake CDROM. There should be 2 versions of tcl/tk included.
The old 7.6 one and the new 8.x version... 

-- 
______________________________________________________________________________
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] |    "I'm alive!!! I can touch! I can taste!     |
|    Andrew Halliwell BSc   |     I can SMELL!!!  KRYTEN!!! Unpack Rachel    |
|             in            |     and get out the puncture repair kit!"      |
|      Computer Science     |        Arnold Judas Rimmer- Red Dwarf          |
==============================================================================
|GCv3.12 GCS>$ d-(dpu) s+/- a C++ US++ P L/L+ E-- W+ N++ o+ K PS+  w-- M+/++ |
|PS+++ PE- Y t+ 5++ X+/X++ R+ tv+ b+ DI+ D+ G e++ h/h+ !r!|  Space for hire  |
==============================================================================

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: No headers?
Date: 26 Aug 1999 21:20:52 +0100

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Matthew O. Persico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Ok. Now that I have installed 6.0 with KDE, why would the standard 'C'
>headers (stdio.h, string.h, etc) be installed in
>/usr/src/linux-2.2.5/include/linux/include instead of /usr/include where
>they FREAKING BELONG?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
>
>Appologies for shouting. Between this and all the PPP woes, I just might
>re-install 5.2.

Er. Aren't they symlinked into the right place? I'm pretty sure they
used to be when I used Red Hat ...

-- 
Colin Watson                                      [cjw44 at cam.ac.uk]
Trinity College, Cambridge, and Computer Science       [riva.ucam.org]
"This is the only networking technology
 that earns frequent flyer miles." - RFC 2549

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