Linux-Misc Digest #39, Volume #24 Tue, 4 Apr 00 10:13:02 EDT
Contents:
VCD playing (Mark P C Chia)
Newbie - distribution question ("Igor Novitzky")
Re: Ditto Max Configuration? - More Info (Marc D. Williams)
Re: command to find out distribution (Marc D. Williams)
Re: PDF editor + file manager (Marc D. Williams)
Re: Game of Life - I love Vi (Al Aab)
StarOffice CD-ROM? ("Simon H.")
Newbie: PING problem ("Ashwin N")
Re: 5250 Emulator for Linux (Carsten Pitz)
finger (winpic)
finger (winpic)
Re: 5250 Emulator for Linux (Greg)
rpc from wnt to linux? (Maarten van Dootingh)
Re: 5250 Emulator for Linux (Stephen Cornell)
Re: PDF editor + file manager (Jan Schaumann)
Re: bash prompt (James Silverton)
Re: serial port ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
rtl8319 interrupt line blocked: status 5 (Hrishi)
Re: PDF editor + file manager (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Beno=EEt?= Smith)
snpmd randomly stops (Michael Segulja)
Mounting FreeBSD 4 (David Walsh)
Re: Dial Up Problem ("rocket")
Word documents viewer? (Alexei Gromov)
Re: WHAT DOES FOO MEAN???? (Robert Heller)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark P C Chia)
Subject: VCD playing
Date: 4 Apr 2000 11:13:59 GMT
Hi,
I have been having problems playing VCDs on my system. It used to work
just fine with kernel 2.3.5 however with any other newer kernel version
(eg 2.3.49, 2.3.50, 2.3.99pre3) it just doesn't work (says that there is
no video cd track). I am using mtv to play VCDs.
I have a DPT scsi card and for the 2.3.5 kernel the scsi driver is
compiled as a module whereas for the later kernels it's built into the
kernel image. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks a lot
Mark
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The University of Edinburgh
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From: "Igor Novitzky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Newbie - distribution question
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 13:23:53 +0200
Hi
I've had linux (suse 5.3) on various occasions on my pc here at home. I've
upgraded to athlon-600 + k7m and would like to run it again. Only thing is,
I'm not sure if 5.3 would support all this new hardware. I can't really
afford to buy 6.3 at the moment, and I'm wondering if there is any
distribution for me to download (up to 400mb is ok i guess) which would work
on the new system and have a few basic utilities, apps and programs +
drivers like suse has (on 5 cd's!). Any suggestions?
Thanks
Igor
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marc D. Williams)
Subject: Re: Ditto Max Configuration? - More Info
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 11:39:23 GMT
On Mon, 27 Mar 2000 07:01:43 -0600, Jeremy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi!
> I got the Ditto Max drive to talk, but it still will not work.
>
As stated you need a newer version of ftape. According to your logs
you're trying to use 3.04 which is ancient.
Here's some info from Mikael Pettersson that he just posted in the
hardware newsgroup.
"You can find a maintained port of ftape-4.03pre2 for 2.2.x and 2.3.x
kernels at http://www.csd.uu.se/~mikpe/linux/ftape/. I can't speak for
your Iomega Ditto drive, but it works fine with my Seagate TapeStor 3200."
To add to that I use the latest unstable ftape with kernel 2.0.38
and an Iomega Ditto 2GB parallel port drive. Works fine.
It may work with the Ditto Max.
--
>>ANIME SENSHI<<
Marc D. Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.oldskool.org/~tvdog/ -- DOS Internet & Tandy 1000
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Platform/8269/ -- Win3.x Makeover
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marc D. Williams)
Subject: Re: command to find out distribution
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 11:39:22 GMT
On Thu, 30 Mar 2000 13:28:59 +0800, Sukanta Kumar Hazra
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi!
>
>Is there any command that will allow me to know which distribution of
>Linux is running, somewhat like uname that tells the kernel info.
>The only way that I know of now is to read the /etc/issue.
>
How would you not know what distro you're using? Unless of course you
bought a machine with it preloaded, but still...
Anyhind, here's a chunk taken out of the survey script which looks to
find what distro one is running. Maybe take it all and put it in a script
or try out the different parts manually.
I suggest checking out survey. It outputs a ton of useful info about
your system.
ftp://metalab.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/utils/scripts/survey-0.95.tar.gz
(last version I downloaded, newer one may exist).
==============BEGIN=================
echo
echo ++++ LIST SYSTEM/VENDOR VERSION INFO: ++++
uname -a
if [ -f /etc/redhat-release ]
then
echo RedHat Linux system release file - /etc/redhat-release
cat /etc/redhat-release
echo RedHat Linux release - rpm -q -a \| grep redhat
rpm -q -a | grep redhat
fi
if [ -d /var/lib/LST ]
then
echo Caldera OpenLinux release - rpm -q -a \| grep Open\|COL
rpm -q -a | egrep Open\|COL
echo Caldera Base Version - /var/lib/LST/BASEVERSION:
cat /var/lib/LST/BASEVERSION
echo Caldera Main Version - /etc/.issue:
cat /etc/.issue
fi
if [ -f /sbin/SuSEconfig ]
then
echo This is a SuSE Linux system - /sbin/SuSEconfig exists
echo SuSE Release Version: /var/adm/inst-log/info
cat /var/adm/inst-log/info
fi
if [ -d /usr/lib/setup ]
then
echo This is a Slackware Linux system - /usr/lib/setup exists
echo The Slackware Version - /usr/lib/setup\|grep version
ls /usr/lib/setup | grep version
fi
if [ -d /var/lib/corel_setup ]
then
echo This is a Corel Linux system - /var/lib/corel_setup exists
echo Debian Linux system release file - /etc/debian_version
cat /etc/debian_version
echo The Corel Linux Version - /etc/issue
cat /etc/issue
else
if [ -f /etc/debian_version ]
then
echo This is a Debian Linux system
echo Debian Linux system release file - /etc/debian_version
cat /etc/debian_version
fi
fi
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>>ANIME SENSHI<<
Marc D. Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.oldskool.org/~tvdog/ -- DOS Internet & Tandy 1000
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Platform/8269/ -- Win3.x Makeover
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marc D. Williams)
Subject: Re: PDF editor + file manager
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 11:39:24 GMT
On Wed, 29 Mar 2000 23:30:13 -0100, Beno�t Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Greetings,
>
>I am looking for a free software to edit .pdf files (can Tex do so?), as
>well as a decent, WORKING file manager fitting WindowMaker (I tried to
>compile some of them I had downloaded, with no luck) with drag&drop
>functionality if possible.
>
Don't know about the pdf editor.
FSViewer is a file manager for WindowMaker that supports DnD.
It's available from ftp.windowmaker.org somewhere.
OffiX's file manager also has DnD. There's also WMOffiX which I think
is a set of patches or something(??) to make OffiX more wmaker compatible.
The drag&drop works as I just tested dragging a text file from OffiX's
file manager (Files) to xless' icon on the clip which brought it up
in xless. OffiX Files is based on xfm so if you don't like xfm/moxfm
you probably won't like this one either.
--
>>ANIME SENSHI<<
Marc D. Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.oldskool.org/~tvdog/ -- DOS Internet & Tandy 1000
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Platform/8269/ -- Win3.x Makeover
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Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.editors,comp.unix.misc
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Al Aab)
Subject: Re: Game of Life - I love Vi
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 11:36:38 GMT
in 1999
al aab (c'est moi !)
posted to some newsgroups
a 1dimension variant of game of life
in sed
the title could b something like
sierpinski triangle
also ran
in sed
a seders member, of taiwan
& another
have web paged
the towers of hanoi
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al aab, ex seders moderator sed u soon
it is not zat we do not see the s o l u t i o n
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From: "Simon H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: StarOffice CD-ROM?
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 12:48:34 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Does anyone know if/where I can get hold of a StarOffice CD-ROM from any
organisation based in the UK (i.e. so I can pay in �stlg, and don't have
to wait 4 weeks for delivery?)
Thanks,
Simon
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From: "Ashwin N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Newbie: PING problem
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 15:18:10 +1200
The situation :
I 'm a new linux user who has just set up
Redhat Linux 6.0 machine in a NT network. Using DHCP for IP assignment.No
WINS/DNS .
My linux box is named redhat.
The problem(s):
I can't get to ping myself by name. Ping gives a "host not found message"
everytime i do a ping by name. The nmbd service also fails to startup on
boot unlesss i make an entry in /etc/hosts for redhat. I was hoping to
get name resolution to work through nmbd->broadcasts as i particpate in
a small network and don't want to get in mess of seting up WINS and DNS name
servers. I've also checked the log.smb and log.nmb log files
at /var/log/samba and both of them complain of a function call s/thing like
Get_Hostname ( ) failing. Have i run into some sort of catch 22 situation
or is it s/thing silly on my part. Isn't nmbd supposed to supplying a name
resolution service of some sort ?
Please help me out ... s/body ??
Here 's the output of ifconfig in case its of help :
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:08:C7:C5:6E:9E
inet addr:192.168.0.111 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:155 errors:1 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:92 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
Interrupt:11 Base address:0x1000
lo Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3924 Metric:1
RX packets:59 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:59 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
Please reply to
Ashwin N
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From: Carsten Pitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 5250 Emulator for Linux
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 11:36:04 GMT
There's a X3270, so there may be a x11 based 5250 emulator as well.
But there are some 100% pure Java 5250 emulations available.
Carsten
BTW, I personally prefer IBM's JDK for x86-Linux over the ones
offered by Blackdown or SUN.
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From: winpic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,be.comp.os.linux,nl.comp.os.linux
Subject: finger
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 14:00:16 +0200
How do I keep track of people who are fingering me?
Winpic
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From: winpic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,be.comp.os.linux,nl.comp.os.linux
Subject: finger
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 14:00:04 +0200
How do I keep track of people who are fingering me?
Winpic
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From: Greg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 5250 Emulator for Linux
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 12:30:05 GMT
I appreciate the reply, however I'm already using IBM's Client Access on
my Windoze boxen. With M$'s prices for new licenses for Win2k and Office2k
(4x what we paid for NT and Office 97), we're looking at moving to Linux.
I can run all my legal research applications on WINE, and Corel is issuing
a Linux WordPerfect office suite based on debian. However, the only
sticking point is the connectivity to the AS/400, which is why I asked
about a 5250 emulator for Linux. An ordinary telnet session doesn't have
the same functionality (the function keys don't work), so it has to be an
emulation session.
I've checked IBM's web site, and all I found was a press release on how
they're 'deeply committed to Linux'. My IBM Business Partner charges $$$
to answer that question, and I'm trying to do this as low cost as possible.
I figure that someone, somewhere has a answer to this. I can't be the only
person in the world who wants to run Linux and AS/400...
Thanks,
Greg
Ursa_M wrote:
>
> Two thoughts: IBM and NetManage (formerly NetSoft). FYI, we use telnet
5250
> over TCP/IP from Win95 machines at work to connect to AS/400's. The
software
> is NetSoft Elite or NetSoft Portfolio. IBM has RS6000's as well as
AS/400's
> so probably has a solution to this as well.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Ursa_M
> (sorry for the bogus return address, but I hate SPAM!)
>
> Greg wrote:
>
> > I'm looking for a 5250 X-emulator that will enable a user to connect
to an
> > AS/400. I don't need file transfer, just a terminal emulation session.
> >
> > Any clues? I haven't been able to find one.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Greg
> >
> > --
> > Posted via CNET Help.com
> > http://www.help.com/
>
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From: Maarten van Dootingh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: rpc from wnt to linux?
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 13:29:51 +0200
Hi,
How can I do RPC from Windows NT to linux?
I hope somebody can help me, or give a reading reference.
I've been searching now for 3 days, and all I found was some buggy alfa
release DCE-RPC source that was almost 2 years old. I got is compiling
and running with some adjustments for the new libraries, but it crached
a lot.
Or is it possible to use sunrpc on windows nt? How?
Or is there a DCOM version available for linux that works without
problems?
greetigns and thanks in advance.
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From: Stephen Cornell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 5250 Emulator for Linux
Date: 04 Apr 2000 14:07:36 +0100
Greg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> However, the only
> sticking point is the connectivity to the AS/400, which is why I asked
> about a 5250 emulator for Linux. An ordinary telnet session doesn't have
> the same functionality (the function keys don't work), so it has to be an
> emulation session.
I went to Freshmeat, searched for `5250', and found:
http://www.linux-sna.org/software/5250/index.html
Alpha software, but apparently you can do work with it.
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University of Cambridge, Zoology Department, Downing Street, CAMBRIDGE CB2 3EJ
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From: Jan Schaumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PDF editor + file manager
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 09:17:54 -0400
Beno�t Smith wrote:
>
> Greetings,
>
> I am looking for a free software to edit .pdf files (can Tex do so?), as
> well as a decent, WORKING file manager fitting WindowMaker (I tried to
> compile some of them I had downloaded, with no luck) with drag&drop
> functionality if possible.
For cerating pdf's, I usually convert my LyX-files to pdf.
Editing... hmmm,I don't doo much "editing" of pdf-files, but i guess I'd
start by converting them to postscript.
Check man pdf2ps and man ps2pdf...
-Jan
--
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http://jschauma-0.dsl.speakeasy.net
Fundamentally, there may be no basis for anything.
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From: James Silverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bash prompt
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 09:17:45 -0400
Floyd Davidson wrote:
>
> >> PS1="\$PWD $"
>
> Reading the documentation (listed by at least two other responses) would
> be an *excellent* idea.
<<<<<<<<<<<<<Deletions of details>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Sorry to sound like an old curmudgeon (even if I am one!) but I used to
think that finding out how to do things like changing the shell prompt
was half the fun of UNIX. Sometimes people seem to miss out on
interesting things by asking too soon!
Good luck,
Jim.
--
James V. Silverton
Potomac, Maryland.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: serial port
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 13:08:25 GMT
Thanks all, turned out ttyS0 was accessable only by root.
Problem fixed.
Carson
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jeff Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I tried ttyS0 and ttyS1 without success, I will chech the messages
as
> > you suggest.
>
> How did you "try" them?
> man setserial
>
> --
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> Jeff Dillon http://www.jeffdillon.com
>
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From: Hrishi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: rtl8319 interrupt line blocked: status 5
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 13:30:02 GMT
whenever i use my cmpci card, eth0 fails to init. i'm using redhat 6.1
kernel 2.2.12-20smp on a p-II 450 dual system.
if the card is not present, everything works fine.
does anyone have a clue?
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Beno=EEt?= Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PDF editor + file manager
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 15:35:29 -0100
Thank all of you for these answers !
Jan Schaumann wrote:
>
> Beno�t Smith wrote:
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I am looking for a free software to edit .pdf files (can Tex do so?), as
> > well as a decent, WORKING file manager fitting WindowMaker (I tried to
> > compile some of them I had downloaded, with no luck) with drag&drop
> > functionality if possible.
>
> For cerating pdf's, I usually convert my LyX-files to pdf.
> Editing... hmmm,I don't doo much "editing" of pdf-files, but i guess I'd
> start by converting them to postscript.
> Check man pdf2ps and man ps2pdf...
>
> -Jan
>
> --
> Jan Schaumann
> http://jschauma-0.dsl.speakeasy.net
>
> Fundamentally, there may be no basis for anything.
--
Beno�t Smith
Just A Rhyme Without A Reason
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From: Michael Segulja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: snpmd randomly stops
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 13:40:06 GMT
We run a couple of NT Servers and one Linux server and use HP TopTools
to monitor the servers so we know when one goes down. It monitors
whether the server can be pinged, and whether or not snmp is running.
The Linux server continually stops running snmp, but the server is
staying up. It's usually in the morning when I get here. If I
run /etc/rc.d/init.d/snmpd start, then it starts up okay and will run
for awhile. There is nothing in the syslog that shows it stopping.
Anybody know what the problem could be? This is Redhat Linux 6.0 with
kernel 2.2.5-15.
Thanks,
Michael
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From: David Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mounting FreeBSD 4
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 23:50:29 +1000
Hi,
I have re-compiled my kernel with UFS support + the Experimental
Read/Write support + BSD Partition Table support.
I can mount my FreeBSD partition no problems EXCEPT
it only boots the / "slice"
How do I mount the /usr "slice" ?
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From: "rocket" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Dial Up Problem
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 09:50:39 -0400
You really need to read the ppp howto
http://metalab.unc.edu forget minicom and dip, also. I have some scripts
that I have given out many times and have had much success with. I would be
happy to forward them to you if you like.
Mr. Wing Kai, Ho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello all,
>
> I am a beginner of Linux user. I just installed REDHAT 6.0 into my
> computer but I come across a dial up problem. There are two way to
> connect to the internet via modem. One is using "DIP" and the other is
> "MINICOM" but both require to specify "/dev/modem" for port setup. When
> I install the Linux, I have not be asked for any questions about the
> modem setup. I don't know how to set it up and connect to internet. Once
> dial up procedure is completed, can I just invoke a browser then I can
> connect into internet? Are there any more user friendly means to setup
> dial up networking in Linux? Thanks in advance.
>
> Nelson
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> !@
>
>
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From: Alexei Gromov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Word documents viewer?
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 15:55:48 +0200
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WHAT DOES FOO MEAN????
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 14:06:55 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (CG),
In a message on 03 Apr 2000 20:48:01 EDT, wrote :
C> Yeh, that much I get, but what does it mean when it's included in a
C> command or instruction? Is that supposed to mean it doesn't matter
C> what you type there??
No, it is meant as a placeholder, like in Algebra class you talk about
equations, like 2x = 4y and you need to solve for x. So if the
documentation says:
gcc foo.c -o foo.o -c
This just means 'replace foo with the base name of the file you want to
compile'.
For a more in-depth definition visit the Hacker Dictionary / Jargon File
(http://www.jargon.8hz.com/jargon_21.html#TAG670):
foo /foo/
1. /interj./ Term of disgust. 2. Used very generally as a sample name
for absolutely anything, esp. programs and files (esp. scratch files).
3. First on the standard list of metasyntactic variables used in syntax
examples. See also bar, baz, qux, quux, corge, grault, garply, waldo,
fred, plugh, xyzzy, thud.
(There is more, including several paragraphs talking about the etymology
of foo -- visit the URL above.)
C>
C>
C> On Tue, 04 Apr 2000 00:36:33 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
C> wrote:
C>
C> >On 03 Apr 2000 20:25:49 EDT, CG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
C> >>I sort of gather that it's a made up word, but sometimes I see
C> >>instructions or commands in documentation such as
C> >>
C> >>.../foo/something
C> >>
C> >>is foo used here like some kind of variable?
C> >
C> >More or less. From WWII US soldier slang, fubar: Fucked Up Beyond All
C> >Repair. Now sometimes foobar, or foo bar ....
C> >
C> >--
C> >Hal B
C> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
C>
C>
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