Linux-Misc Digest #312, Volume #24 Sat, 29 Apr 00 20:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Lilo Problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
\\..HP LaserJet 3150 Users... Can You Print Landscape???..///
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: how to start x-server automatically? (James Franklin)
Re: HP 8100i CDRW Setup Help (Duane)
Re: how to start x-server automatically? (James Franklin)
Re: VT102 or VT220 emulation ("T.E.Dickey")
Re: Why won't cron spawned telnet stay attached? (brian moore)
Vmware -- newsgroup viewable from Germany? (Ken Yasuda)
Re: Vmware -- newsgroup viewable from Germany? (Hartmut Figge)
Linux operating system and Windows applications (Thomas Polgar)
inittab mistake - endless boot - HELP ("Kevin Carpenter")
Re: inittab mistake - endless boot - HELP (Hal Burgiss)
shared KDE menu ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux Journal Python supplement (Sean Johnson)
Re: Linux operating system and Windows applications (Bastian)
Re: Linux and SCO (Bill Vermillion)
Re: shared KDE menu (Dances With Crows)
Re: Extracting multiple tar files? ("Tom Hoffmann")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Lilo Problem
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 20:11:23 GMT
I have a similar problem (but lilo stops after "LI"). What is "Yast's
lilo config. Do you mean the "LBA" option during the installation
process?
Thanks,
Dan Hurley
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I had this last week with SuSE 6.4 on a friend's laptop (13GB drive).
> Setting the 'Linear' option in Yast's lilo config fixed it.
>
> Dirk Gently wrote:
>
> > I just installed Suse 6.3 on a different computer. It installed just
fine on
> > my first one, but lilo won't work on the second on. It says "LIL-".
I can
> > even boot Linux! I tried installing lilo on the mbr, a floppy, and
/boot,
> > but to no avail. Please help me. Thanks in advance!
> >
> > --
> > Jeff Lacy
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Linux Rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> --
> Mielipiteet omiani - Opinions personal, facts suspect, especially on
my
> http://home.germany.net/101-69082/samba.html
> Simple Samba Solutions web page. ICQ
1722461
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: \\..HP LaserJet 3150 Users... Can You Print Landscape???..///
Date: 29 Apr 2000 20:03:18 GMT
HP LaserJet 3150 Users... Can You Print Landscape???
&
Try it...
&
OK, neither can I - and neither can a whole lot of other users either.
So far I've identified several here in Usenet, but I'm sure there are
many, many more.
&
I'm attempting to identify as many people as possible with this problem,
so we can approach HP as a group and hopefully get them of their asses and
give us an appropriate firmware revision.
&
The workaround they currently recommend is completely unacceptable, since
it requires you to lower your video graphics acceleration significantly.
This degrades the video capabilities of your entire machine!
&
I don't think so...
&
Please write me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you are having
this problem so we can approach HP as a group and hopefully motivate/shame
them into fixing this.
&
I hope to heard from you.
&
Sincerely,
&
Charles Hamilton
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
&
&
PS: Flames, SPAM complaints, death threats, or any other such crap
will be completely innored.
&
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From: James Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to start x-server automatically?
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 15:55:26 -0500
On Sat, 29 Apr 2000, Peter T. Breuer wrote:
>David Waffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>: How can I toggle starting x at boot up? I did not configure x to start
>
>man init. man inittab. /runlevel
>
>Peter
As root, edit your /etc/inittab
Change 'id:3:initdefault:'
TO 'id:5:initdefault;'
You may or may not have 3 as your current default.. 5 is the graphical login.
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From: Duane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: HP 8100i CDRW Setup Help
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 20:47:18 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Milton Vega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello:
>
> I have a HP8100i IDE CDRW in my PC (I actually have two CD drives in
my
> PC;
> one is a X6 Read Only drive, and the other the HP8100i). After
following
> the
> instructions in the CD-Writing-HOWTO, it still get an error when I
query
> the bus
> looking for the CDRW drive. Here it is:
>
> ====================================================
> root@linuxpc# cdrecord -scanbus
> Cdrecord release 1.8a29 Copyright (C) 1995-1999 J�rg Schilling
> cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open SCSI driver.
Hmmm..odd. I can get this error message by temporarily renaming /dev/sga
to something else.
> root@linuxpc# cdrecord -inq
> Cdrecord release 1.8a29 Copyright (C) 1995-1999 J�rg Schilling
> scsidev: 'yamaha'
> devname: 'yamaha'
> scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2
> cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open SCSI driver.
I get this error message all the time on my working system, so I think
you can ignore it.
Try taking a look at /var/log/dmesg, and see if there is anything about
SCSI in there. It should have lines something like:
scsi0 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices
scsi : 1 host.
Vendor: PLEXTOR Model: CD-R PX-W8432T Rev: 1.05
Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
scsi : detected 1 SCSI cdrom total.
sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 32x/32x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
Uniform CDROM driver Revision: 2.56
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From: James Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to start x-server automatically?
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 16:03:54 -0500
On Sat, 29 Apr 2000, James Franklin wrote:
>On Sat, 29 Apr 2000, Peter T. Breuer wrote:
>>David Waffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>: How can I toggle starting x at boot up? I did not configure x to start
>>
>>man init. man inittab. /runlevel
>>
>>Peter
>
>As root, edit your /etc/inittab
>Change 'id:3:initdefault:'
>TO 'id:5:initdefault;'
>
>You may or may not have 3 as your current default.. 5 is the graphical login.
Sorry for the typing. the above line should have read
id:5:initdefault: #<-- notice it is a colon, NOT a semi-colon.
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From: "T.E.Dickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: VT102 or VT220 emulation
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 21:42:17 GMT
Clifton T. Sharp Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The actual terminal will send stuff out the printer port on command; one
> of the *term programs talks about it; and in fact one of the *term programs
> I tried actually did so. The key I used to send the "print" command isn't
> a magic button, it told an app on the other side to give my side a print
> command. But only one of the *term programs responded to that other-side
> print command by printing. What I see when doing it isn't sufficient to
> determine whether all are sending the same escape sequence.
Most of the problems reported with printing deal with not being
able to get a printout until the printer is closed. (But there's
not a lot of request for this, so it's not something I've dealt with
at length in my FAQ).
>> > * only gnome-terminal gives a consistent PF4 for shift-F4 key
>> that's incorrect anyway (assuming that you're talking vt102/vt220).
> Yup. I expected PF4 to be the keypad '-' key. But Num Lock, '/', '*' and
> '-' all seem to retain their normal PC uses and don't take on VT102/VT220
> functions in any of the *terms I tried.
that's a design choice: lose the NumLock key, or (as I did) put PF1-PF4 on
F1-F4 (a real vt220 doesn't "have" F1-F5). I'm aware that some emulators
use the top row of the keypad for this (but in either case, they still come
show by one key - the way I did it is easier for me to remember what the
keys do).
>> > * NONE seems to have any documentation on keyboard mappings
>> (it's a table in ctlseqs.ms in xterm)
> I find I have tables all over the dang place now. :-)
> Thanks for your answers. Now reading the FAQ...
no problem (if there's a lot of questions, I'll document more...)
--
Thomas E. Dickey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.clark.net/pub/dickey
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: Why won't cron spawned telnet stay attached?
Date: 29 Apr 2000 21:50:06 GMT
On Sat, 29 Apr 2000 17:56:33 GMT,
Paul Hustava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<snip>
> It's all very primitive and simple, but I wanted to automate it a bit. I
> though I could set up a crontab entry that would start the telnet session at
> 4:30AM as such;
>
> 30 4 * * * telnet 192.168.1.23 3001 >> /var/log/dumpfiles/drum_filler$(date
> +%Y%m%d).txt
>
> ..well, 5 seconds after connecting, the connection is dropped and root gets
> emailed the following from cron "connection dropped by remote host". This is
> not because anything else is already attached -- read on.
>
> I try this using a Lantronix terminal server at the office. I even played with
> the cron entry at home a bit, using termnetd as a terminal server daemon. I
> get the same failure on both setups, so it does not appear to be a malfunction
> of the terminal server.
>
> I'm now guessing the telnet connection must be spawned from a terminal device
> in order to stay attached (/dev/ttyp4 or whatever) even though I am
> redirecting the output to a file? ..Or is it a cron problem?
>
> I tried to redirect output to > /dev/ttypa then to >> $outputfile , but then I
> get a I/O error emailed to me and the output file is ever even created.
>
> If it's the fact that telnet doesn't like to spawn from cron, how can I spawn
> a telnet session from a terminal device (one that I am not curently logged n
> from)
Use 'expect' or something expect-like. In short, open a vty and
convince the remote end that you're really there.
In your setup, as soon as the remote end tries a read(), it gets and EOF
and closes the connection.
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Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Yasuda)
Subject: Vmware -- newsgroup viewable from Germany?
Date: 29 Apr 2000 22:07:37 GMT
So my sysadmin and I are having trouble accessing the Vmware newsgroup site at
news://news.vmware.com. We think it's a Vmware problem. Anybody in Germany able
to view this site?
(to send email, remove "nospam")
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From: Hartmut Figge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Vmware -- newsgroup viewable from Germany?
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 00:12:58 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ken Yasuda wrote:
>
> So my sysadmin and I are having trouble accessing the Vmware newsgroup site at
> news://news.vmware.com. We think it's a Vmware problem. Anybody in Germany able
> to view this site?
yes.
no problem with access from uunet or freenet.
> (to send email, remove "nospam")
no
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From: Thomas Polgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux operating system and Windows applications
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 22:30:03 GMT
I am presently running Windows98se and numerous Windows applications.
Autocad, Corel WordPerfect suite 2000, many photo application softwares,
If I choose to install Linus o/s, can I run my other applications on
Linux??
advise
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From: "Kevin Carpenter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: inittab mistake - endless boot - HELP
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 18:27:17 -0400
I'm trying to get mgetty working.
In the inittab file I found several copies of minigetty being starting.
I changed each of them to mgetty.
Now I realized that the devices in those lines tty* were consoles and not
serial lines!
The init process fails, respawns too quickly and then retries in 5 minutes -
its been doing this all weekend.
I can't get a prompt such that I can change the inittab file back.
Any suggestions?
TIA,
-:>Kevin, learning the hard way
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: inittab mistake - endless boot - HELP
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 22:41:57 GMT
On Sat, 29 Apr 2000 18:27:17 -0400, Kevin Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>I'm trying to get mgetty working.
>
>In the inittab file I found several copies of minigetty being starting.
>
>I changed each of them to mgetty.
>
>Now I realized that the devices in those lines tty* were consoles and
>not serial lines!
>
>The init process fails, respawns too quickly and then retries in 5
>minutes - its been doing this all weekend.
>
>I can't get a prompt such that I can change the inittab file back.
>
>Any suggestions?
At the LILO boot prompt try:
linux init=/bin/sh
You will get a very bare bones system.
--
Hal B
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: shared KDE menu
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 22:37:18 GMT
I have a small network of Suns and PC's all running Linux. Because of
the hardware mix, the KDE binaries are installed on each system. I have
some common apps that I would like to add to everyones menus but,
because each computer has KDE locally installed I can not figure out how
to do such a thing. In the near future, I will need to be able to give
different menus to different groups... any ideas???
Thanks,
Matt
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From: Sean Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Journal Python supplement
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 19:14:23 -0400
You have to be kidding. What was there to be ashamed of? I thought the
cover was hilarious, and it made me glad that I continue to support
Linux Journal by maintaining my subscription. Getting that issue in the
little plastic wrap put a little chuckle in my otherwise mundane day.
I'm amazed that some feel that levity needs to be razed from the planet.
Sean
Albert Hopkins wrote:
>
> Well, I haven't really looked at it yet, but I know a lot of non Linux/Python
> people commented about the cover, which I was rather ashamed of.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bastian)
Subject: Re: Linux operating system and Windows applications
Date: 29 Apr 2000 23:44:11 GMT
On Sat, 29 Apr 2000 22:30:03 GMT, Thomas Polgar wrote:
>I am presently running Windows98se and numerous Windows applications.
>Autocad, Corel WordPerfect suite 2000, many photo application softwares,
>If I choose to install Linus o/s, can I run my other applications on
>Linux??
>advise
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Check out vmware (www.vmware.com). It's a PC emulator, and if you
have >350 MHz and 128 megs, it works just fine.
Bastian
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.sco.misc
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: Linux and SCO
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 23:03:46 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Tony Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Bill Vermillion wrote:
>> Since I don't have any Linux systems running here at the moment -
>> let me ask this. Does the Linux implementation accuratly
>> emulate the VT100 - where the <-- key is ^? and shift <--
>> is ^H.
>"The" Linux implementation? :-)
In 'the Linux' implementation I meant the one you were using,
and tested. You did see my list the other day of the 26 ?? Linux
variants, did you not?
>The Corel Linux machine that I happen to have up and running
>this second does not distinguish twixt BackSpace and
>Shift-BackSpace
Well then I'd call that broken behavior. All the terminal
emulators I've used in PC thingys talking to Unix devices obeyed
the same sequence as the original VT - where the shift gave you
backspace. I wish some of the Linux implementors would look to
specs or history instead of trying to reinvent things.
It reminds me much of the early PC days when some programs
gave you a difference between a control A and a control a.
(note upper and lower case).
Someone must have looked and said "Hm - you get a control character
by subtracting 32 from the key" Well that only works for UC
letters. Much of the PC world operated that way so maybe that's
why they used it.
I think people are afraid to ask questions at times on their way to
a solution. The problem often is that you have A solution but not
THE solution.
Reference a terminal if you are going to emulate one and note that
the control key just basically takes the top 3 bits to ground. In
software you mask that.
I shouldn't be surprised at this type of behavior - reference the
thread on the NT admin. Years ago I had a friend who was a very
popular software author and sold a lot of game programs. One day
something came up out the decimal value of a control character -
maybe it was control G. I just popped up with "7". He said
something like "How do you know that". And I explained that all
you had to do was look at the chart and you will see that they are
in value of 1 thru 26 matching the alphabet. He didn't know and he
really was a great programmer.
Maybe it's learning 'how' to do something without the 'why'.
On my keyboard here - I use a FreeBSD system as my mail/news and
firewall in front of the other machines - and my SCO happily goes
out to the Internet through this machine - my backspace
key gives ^H, my shift backspace gives ^? . I guess that's what
you get with 20 years of design behind the OS.
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: shared KDE menu
Date: 29 Apr 2000 19:56:17 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 29 Apr 2000 22:37:18 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<<8efo6s$lna$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>I have a small network of Suns and PC's all running Linux. Because of
>the hardware mix, the KDE binaries are installed on each system. I have
>some common apps that I would like to add to everyones menus but,
>because each computer has KDE locally installed I can not figure out how
>to do such a thing. In the near future, I will need to be able to give
>different menus to different groups... any ideas???
The stuff you'll want to edit to put entries in the "K Menu" is in
$KDEDIR/share/applnk/ where $KDEDIR can vary a bit... SuSE has it under
/opt/kde/ but RedHat puts it in /usr/. Check your distro's settings.
Once you know where the files are stored, have a look at the structure of
the .kdelnk files and you should find it really easy to create your own
links for applications and such.
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Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.
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From: "Tom Hoffmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Extracting multiple tar files?
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 00:01:08 GMT
I think you are mistaken. I do not know where you got your tar files, but
on www.linuxdoc.org the complete HOWTO tar file contains an archive of all
the HOWTOs. Each HOWTO is *not* tar'd within the tar file. I just tried
it and was able to extract the HOWTOs using:
tar xvzf Linux-HOWTOs.tar.gz
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, mh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Is there a way to extract multiple tar files at once? I tried the -M
> option for "multiple volumes" but got an error message to the effect
> that this was not possible with compressed files, which is what I'm
> working with. I'm not sure this would be the correct option anyway.
>
> I just downloaded complete sets of HOWTOs and mini-HOWTOs. Each
> collection consists of a single compressed tar file containing another
> separate compressed tar file for EACH article. I can't imagine anyone
> actually extracting these articles one at a time.
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