Linux-Misc Digest #617, Volume #24 Sat, 27 May 00 13:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: How to read mail automatically and extracted data into database (Steve)
Re: readhat 6.1 and mail readers (Steve)
Re: How to read mail automatically and extracted data into database (Robie Basak)
Re: RH Linux 6.2 and FAT32. (Leonard Evens)
Re: RH Linux 6.2 and FAT32. (Leonard Evens)
Re: RH Linux 6.2 and FAT32. (Leonard Evens)
Re: secure ftp? ("Michael Faurot")
hardlink-problem (Christian Jansen)
Re: democracy? (Praedor Tempus)
Redhat 6.2 and can't make rpms-bin/chgrp: --no-dereference (-h) is not supported on
this system ("David Cougle")
Re: Printer reccomendations? (Leonardo Herzenberg)
apsfilter->/dev/console permission denied?? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: May I use your Real Server? (Derek Colley)
Re: May I use your Real Server? (vsync)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (Craig Kelley)
Re: Freewwweb slow ? (Jim Kalb)
kernel 2.4.0-test1 == lightening? (Robert Lynch)
Re: CAUTION: I am under attack from an incompetent hacker probably in germany
(Peter Karlsson)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Subject: Re: How to read mail automatically and extracted data into database
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 27 May 2000 16:22:07 GMT
On 27 May 2000 08:49:44 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hi,
>
> My problem is that some of our customers give their
> orders through email. In stead of typing order requests
> line by line, I would like to find out an approach
> to automatically save them into the database. Please
> help me. Even a possible hint is appricated.
I doubt that this can be done safely/reliably, there's no way
of guessing the possible formats of the free text orders which
you are receiving. Just think of the possible differences and
similarities in someone cancelling an order by email and someone
placing an order by email.
Sounds like you need a bit of good old human intervention, and
at the same time review your order form and it's accessibility,
stress the necessity for using the form to your customers and
ask them for feedback about the form when possible, by doing this
you might totally irradicate the free text orders.
This isn't much help to you, but sometimes we need a second opinion
to assure us that what we are currently doing is the best way to
go about the task.
--
Cheers
Steve email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee 0 pps.
web http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~sjlen/
or http://start.at/zero-pps
2:12pm up 2 days, 1:06, 1 user, load average: 2.16, 2.11, 2.04
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Subject: Re: readhat 6.1 and mail readers
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 27 May 2000 16:22:07 GMT
On Fri, 26 May 2000 13:18:41 -0400, Masoud Radparvar wrote:
>I upgraded from redhat 5.1 to redhat 6.0. Before
>the upgrade, I was able to retrieve mail into a win98
>machine using outlook express. After the upgrade,
>I cannot retrieve mail; the outlook complains that:
>
>Your server has unexpectedly terminated the connection. Possible causes for
>this include server problems, network problems, or a long period of
>inactivity. Account: 'mail', Server: 'mailserver', Protocol: POP3, Port:
>110, Secure(SSL): No, Error Number: 0x800CCC0F
>
>The mail server works perfectly; it sends and receives mail
>without any problems after the upgrade.
>
>Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
Maybe your hosts.allow and hosts.deny have been overwritten in the upgrade.
Make sure that the W98 box is in the hosts allow.
--
Cheers
Steve email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee 0 pps.
web http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~sjlen/
or http://start.at/zero-pps
2:42pm up 2 days, 1:36, 1 user, load average: 2.06, 2.05, 2.01
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak)
Subject: Re: How to read mail automatically and extracted data into database
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 27 May 2000 15:30:58 GMT
On 27 May 2000 08:49:44 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>Hi,
>
> My problem is that some of our customers give their
> orders through email. In stead of typing order requests
> line by line, I would like to find out an approach
> to automatically save them into the database. Please
> help me. Even a possible hint is appricated.
>
> The database server is a RedHat Linux running SQL server.
> This machine has only ppp connection to the Internet.
> My plan now is to write a cron script which would read
> mails in xxx@host, parse the mails, and then add the
> order into the database. However, I don't know what
> program could help me read mails without user
> interactive instructions and by what means the received
> orders, after they have been parsed, can be added into
> the database.
You want to look into the programs called fetchmail and procmail,
which together will do incoming mail processing; I use it to sort
incoming mail into various mailboxes.
You can have a script called from procmail when incoming mail arrives,
and set up fetchmail to be called from a cron job.
The script could be in perl, which can talk to some SQL servers;
which one are you using?
Robie.
--
My ISP's news server was messed up recently; sorry if you haven't
heard a reply from me.
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH Linux 6.2 and FAT32.
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 09:59:04 -0500
Michael Brailsford wrote:
>
> Are there any problems installing RH 6.2 on a FAT32 system? I've read the
> kernal 2.2 and higher can read understand FAT32, but RedHat.com said the
> make sure that you are not using FAT32. Is RedHat.com just behind the
> times, or can RH 6.2 just not support FAT32?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael
Linux kernels have supported FAT32 file systems since 2.0.35
or earlier. I have installed dual boot RedHat systems which
support FAT32 since RH5.1 or earlier.
I think you may have misunderstood something you read on the
RedHat website. Just where did you see that?
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH Linux 6.2 and FAT32.
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 10:00:00 -0500
Michael Brailsford wrote:
>
> Are there any problems installing RH 6.2 on a FAT32 system? I've read the
> kernal 2.2 and higher can read understand FAT32, but RedHat.com said the
> make sure that you are not using FAT32. Is RedHat.com just behind the
> times, or can RH 6.2 just not support FAT32?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael
Linux kernels have supported FAT32 file systems since 2.0.35
or earlier. I have installed dual boot RedHat systems which
support FAT32 since RH5.1 or earlier.
I think you may have misunderstood something you read on the
RedHat website. Just where did you see that?
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH Linux 6.2 and FAT32.
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 09:59:18 -0500
Michael Brailsford wrote:
>
> Are there any problems installing RH 6.2 on a FAT32 system? I've read the
> kernal 2.2 and higher can read understand FAT32, but RedHat.com said the
> make sure that you are not using FAT32. Is RedHat.com just behind the
> times, or can RH 6.2 just not support FAT32?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael
Linux kernels have supported FAT32 file systems since 2.0.35
or earlier. I have installed dual boot RedHat systems which
support FAT32 since RH5.1 or earlier.
I think you may have misunderstood something you read on the
RedHat website. Just where did you see that?
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: "Michael Faurot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: secure ftp?
Date: 27 May 2000 15:32:54 GMT
Janet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Hi,
: I'm wondering if there's a reasonable way to do secure FTP in a
: cross-platform sort of way. I am perfectly happy to scp things all the
: time, but I can't do that from the Macs that I work with sometime (or is
: there an SSH client for a Mac that will do such a thing)? Are there any
: other ways to do secure file transfers?
Take a peek at this:
http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~smcpeak/SafeTP/
--
==============================================================================
Michael | mfaurot | Those who can, do; those who can't, simulate.
Faurot | atww.net |
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From: Christian Jansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: hardlink-problem
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 18:10:18 +0200
Hi all,
suppose hardlinking a File A to another file B :
ln A B
So if you change B with _appending_ something like :
echo "more stuff" >> B
your file A now has the same information than B.
But:
If you _edit_ B - with emacs for example - this
operation will _overwrite_ B, and so file A does
not change at all.
So here comes my question:
How can I edit B or A, so that both files now have
the new information?
Are there some file-attributes or something equal
to do this? It should also work with sed or awk.
please help!
Chris
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From: Praedor Tempus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: democracy?
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 10:19:38 -0600
Francis Van Aeken wrote:
>
> Greg Yantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Francis Van Aeken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
> > -do you understand the difference between representative democracy
> > and mob rule?
>
> I believe we should get rid of the middle-men (the politicians), at least
> in the long run. I don't think such a system has to be as crude as mob
> rule.
[...]
Direct democracy would SUCK. You would have religious rightwingers and
idiots (the majority of the public) voting on things based on knee-jerk
reaction, gut feeling, ignorance, and intolerance. It is better to
have the Rep who's job is to get informed on all the topics that come
their way (no way the general public can...they have fulltime jobs
of their own). The public in general would only be interested and
"informed", so to speak, on a VERY few items that they hold to be
paramount.
'Tis better to have a system, as well, that _specifically_
protects against the tyranny of the majority (which is what it would
be). The majority is NOT always right, nor should it have its way
in many cases.
As has been posted, if it were simply majority rule, there would
NEVER have been desegregation, an end to lynchings in the south,
gays would not be permitted to LIVE, there would be required,
enforced religion, no freedom at all on the internet, no controversial
books for sale, etc.
The general populace is FAR to parochial, ignorant, short-sighted,
and knee-jerky to rule directly. The Reps are there to do the
job of learning a LOT about all the issues that come their way
(and they hire persons to aid in this). It is simply not possible
for the general populace to handle that as well as carry on their
day-to-day lives.
praedor
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From: "David Cougle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Redhat 6.2 and can't make rpms-bin/chgrp: --no-dereference (-h) is not
supported on this system
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 16:16:11 GMT
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 11:16:04 -0600
X-Newsreader: Pan 0.8.0beta6
I can't make rpms in rh6.2 for some reason?
I get this error everytime.
-rw-r--r-- 501/300 931 1999-07-17 04:48:51 glib-1.2.8/tests/makefile.msc.in
-rw-r--r-- 501/200 2007 2000-05-24 20:06:09 glib-1.2.8/glib.spec
+ STATUS=0
+ [ 0 -ne 0 ]
+ cd glib-1.2.8
++ /usr/bin/id -u
+ [ 0 = 0 ]
+ /bin/chown -Rhf root .
++ /usr/bin/id -u
+ [ 0 = 0 ]
+ /bin/chgrp -Rhf root .
/bin/chgrp: --no-dereference (-h) is not supported on this system
Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.74754 (%prep)
help?
--
http://www.davidcougle.com
ICQ #3795561
Lunarbard on AOL(Instant Messenger)
Proverbs 15:3
Linux, operating system of the future
Fight The Apathy
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From: Leonardo Herzenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Printer reccomendations?
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 11:17:53 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
> If black + white is okay, I really like my HP LaserJet 6L. Its a
> Laser Printer and its very cute and prints very nicely for personal
> use. Under RH 6.2, if you are not familiar with it, use "printtool"
> to help set up the printer.
>
> In the old days the Ink Jet ink used to run if hit by water. Is that
> still the case?
>
> marc
>
> >>>>> "Nick" == Nick Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Nick> I'm looking to buy a printer to use with my linux box
> Nick> running Red Hat 6.2. I really don't have any experience with
> Nick> Linux printing. All I really want is a decent color printer
> Nick> that will be easy to setup and use with Linux. Cost is a
> Nick> major concern. I can't spend much more than $200, and if I
> Nick> can spend less that's even better. Which brands and/or
> Nick> models should I be looking at?
>
> Nick> thanks in advance
>
> Nick> Nick
>
>
Current version of HP black injet ink seems pretty waterproof when dry. I
just held a page under the faucet with no running.
Leo
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: apsfilter->/dev/console permission denied??
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 16:06:19 GMT
Hi guys:
I installed apsfilter on Slackware 4. The test page came out beautiful,
but after finishing the setup, nothing prints at all. My log file says:
/var/apsfilter/filter/aps-ljet3-letter-auto-mono: /dev/console:
Permission denied
What permission is it complaining about. I checked the Printing-HOWTO
and all my dirs permission is what is should be - I think.
Any help appreciated.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Derek Colley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: May I use your Real Server?
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 16:28:57 +0100
There once was an internet/media company in the US (er, can't remember the
exact name) that did this - broadcasting US TV programs to the whole world
via the net. They are now dead and buried under numerous lawsuites. Be
careful :-)
Re. installing Linux on your PC - do it anyway. You'll never look back!
Rgds,
Derek Colley
netSimple.net
vsync wrote:
> Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Last time I looked, Real made it's basic server available on windows
> > platforms too ...
> >
> > May I suggest a radio ??
>
> Hey, you are no fun at all. This would be an eminently cool hack, and
> I wish him the best of luck.
>
> --
> vsync
> http://quadium.net/ - last updated Wed May 24 22:17:12 MDT 2000
> Orjner.
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: May I use your Real Server?
From: vsync <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 27 May 2000 10:50:02 -0600
Derek Colley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> There once was an internet/media company in the US (er, can't remember the
> exact name) that did this - broadcasting US TV programs to the whole world
> via the net. They are now dead and buried under numerous lawsuites. Be
> careful :-)
Well, as long as he just sends it to himself there shouldn't be a
problem.
--
vsync
http://quadium.net/ - last updated Sat May 27 01:22:21 MDT 2000
Orjner.
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 24 May 2000 12:32:39 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH) writes:
> >But there is no reason to expect it to be any better. Is there a tool
> >that tells you when the last program that uses a shared library
> >has been removed?
>
> Sure there is. It could query the actual state of the system
> rather than just keeping track of what packages had been
> manipulated.
A database is the only way to really solve this problem with any
speed. Sure, you could find(1) all executables and ldd them to see
which libraries they use, but what a waste of time. It won't even
work all the time (What about an application which is on an unmounted
disk? What about an application which uses dlopen(3)?)
For all the faults in dpkg and rpm; they are light-years ahead of
autoconf, even for source (which I usually use -- I hate precompiled
stuff).
--
The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Kalb)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Freewwweb slow ?
Date: 27 May 2000 12:51:30 -0400
In <8gm44n$97d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>It s true, dont use it as your primary ISP, try the other free ones first
>like freei or netzero
Are those others useable under Linux? I thought you had to display
something on your screen while you used them that depended on their
propietary (windows) software.
Also, I'm a Linux newbie and just set up freewwweb with wvdial and
Netscape. Two issues:
1. The thing times out and disconnects after 180 seconds, so there's
not time to read a webpage of any length, and
2. When I input username and password to do mail Netscape suddenly
disappears.
Any suggestions?
--
Jim Kalb ([EMAIL PROTECTED] and http://www.counterrevolution.net)
"Rem tene; verba sequentur" -- Cato
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Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 09:53:59 -0700
From: Robert Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: kernel 2.4.0-test1 == lightening?
Hiya-
I compiled and am running kernel 2.4.0-test1. This is subjective, I
haven't done any benchmarking, but overall it seems to make my system a
lot peppier.
Anyone else agree?
Bob L.
Proposed Microsoft breakup:
Microsoft -> Microslop (OS)
Microsloth (apps)
Microsnot (browser)
--
Robert Lynch-Berkeley CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Karlsson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: CAUTION: I am under attack from an incompetent hacker probably in germany
Date: 27 May 2000 16:52:44 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Peter Karlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
>> Warning, ugly html below (stop posting html please...)!
>
> And if you could post with line breaks at 72, that's make yours more
> readable as well.
Why not use a newsreader that can break the line at col 72 (or whatever column you
want). You see, not everyone is satisfied with 72 columns, some wants 60 and some
people want it at 80. Should I format the postings to each and everyones liking? Isn't
it better if you use a good newsreader which can break the lines at what column you
want; most, if not all, newsreaders can do this. html simply does not belong in a
newsgroup (or in an email for that matter IMHO).
Best regards
Peter K
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