Linux-Misc Digest #254, Volume #25 Thu, 27 Jul 00 19:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Does VB and SQL work under linux? (Fester)
Re: running linux in GUI (Fester)
Ethernet NIC Recommendation (Dennis D)
Automounting and NIS (greg tomczyk)
Re: ftp automated batch copy (Grant Edwards)
Re: W2K NTFS resized to install Linux
Re: Install without floppy or CD? (Grant Edwards)
Re: printing rtf documents (Grant Edwards)
Re: e2fsck problem (Dances With Crows)
Re: Clueless Apache Admin Needs Help (Juha Laiho)
Re: SuSe kernel [was Re: Use "force" with rpm?] (J Bland)
Re: printing rtf documents (Dances With Crows)
Helix upgade trashed Sawfish ("Lloyd Llewelyn")
Linux and Netgear RT311--????? (Julian Cook/Sherab Gyatso)
Re: finding my hacks (Bit Twister)
Re: BUG IN DYNAMIC LINKER ld.so: dynamic-link.h: 57: elf_get_dynamic_info:
Assertion `! "bad dynamic tag"' failed! (M. Vogelgesang)
reinstalling LILO---doesn't work over Win2K??? ("Colin Reinhardt")
Re: fixing MBR to see linux again (post Win2K install...) (Zebee Johnstone)
Re: Helix upgade trashed Sawfish (sandrews)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fester)
Subject: Re: Does VB and SQL work under linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 21:15:12 GMT
On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 20:37:40 GMT, YAWN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>hi all:
>
>i am thinking of putting Linux on my laptop (32MB RAM, P200, 2.0GB),
>and i am wondering if i can run Visual Basics and SQL in Linux. the
There is a product called mySQL for Linux.
VisualAnything is a Microsoft product, so AFAIK, there is no VB
Interpreter/Compiler for Linux.
--
-- Fester
"Anyone can create 'smart' sentences
by using 'one', 'thus', or 'hence'."
-Tomo
"Thus, one is inclined to laugh at
anything Tomo says hence." -Dexter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fester)
Subject: Re: running linux in GUI
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 21:22:38 GMT
On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 16:03:07 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>sounds like you need the xfont server to be running.
>I am not sure where it is started, but have a look in the /etc/rc.d/init.d/
You can also enable xfs using the Linuxconf tool.
As root, at a command prompt, enter: "linuxconf".
Here's where you want to look:
- Control
|
--- Control Panel
|
--- Control Service Activity
Scroll down the list for "xfs", and set it to enabled. If it's *already*
enabled, I'm stumped.
Then
Accept
Act/Changes
Quit
To those out there more experienced than I: Would this START xfs, or
simply put it in his init scripts?
--
-- Fester
"Anyone can create 'smart' sentences
by using 'one', 'thus', or 'hence'."
-Tomo
"Thus, one is inclined to laugh at
anything Tomo says hence." -Dexter
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From: Dennis D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Ethernet NIC Recommendation
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 21:36:16 -0400
Hello,
I would like to add my Linux computer to my simple
Ethernet home network. My computer is a Gateway
166 running RedHat 6.1. Does anyone have any suggestions
on a NIC card that is known to work well with Redhat Linux?
Any recommendations appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Dennis
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From: greg tomczyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Automounting and NIS
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 14:50:26 -0700
Good day to all,
I am wondering if someone out there has any insight to automounting with
NIS on Redhat 6.2 servers and Linux and solaris clients.
I currently have one NIS Master and one Slave server running RedHat 6.2.
My desktop clients were all solaris, but are migrating to VA linux. My
automounting works great with the exception of one thing. I am trying to
take advantage of special mount option, /net(solaris) or /hosts (sgi) in
the auto.master. The entry looked like this on solaris
/net -hosts -nosuid,nobrowse
the /net entry in the auto.master allows users to cd /net/"machine_name"
and go to that machine as if it was a NFS mounted directory. No with the
Linux server, I am trying to do the equivalent with no such luck. Can
any one help? it is killing me....
Also, i have noticed that with linux NIS clients there can be no
auto.master local to the clients. Is there a way to take advantage of
the option +auto_master like in solaris?
thanks
greg
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: ftp automated batch copy
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 21:53:50 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Hasler wrote:
>m.hoes writes:
>> ...is there an enhanced ftp client available which is able to do this?
>
>You want ncftp. Should be included in any decent distribution.
Specifically, you want the designed-for-scripting programs ncftpget and
ncftpput (which might just be links to ncftp -- I never actually looked).
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! Oh, I get it!! "The
at BEACH goes on", huh,
visi.com SONNY??
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: W2K NTFS resized to install Linux
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 17:58:45 -0400
Lilo doesn't care what is in the partition it's told to boot.
so NTFS ( ver 4,5,6....) or any other fs, it's fine.
Preferably, find a tool that can free some space for the installation.
And do not put everything into a single partition.
If the latest version of Partition magic can't do it , I don't know.
Before you mess with it, please review information on Primary partitions,
Extended partitions, Master Boot Record, Partition Type ID's etc.
Also, a good understanding of the boot process would be usefull when you get
stuck, or in general when w2k goes nuts and refuses to boot . For example ,
Why does the message "NO ROM BASIC" pop up ? :)
Also note that ntfs support is not unheard of for linux, but it is shaky at
best.
Best is to use a fat32 partition to exchange data. linux reads fat32's as
vfat and has no problem with long file names.
I suggest you put /boot into the first area of the hdd, within the 1024
cylinder boundary, and put lilo in the /boot partition ( it has to be
primary , and bootable ).
Make sure that the bios's notion of the hdd values and linux's notion of
them are the same. If different, you can
a) make bios compliant with linux's report
b) tell LILO on boot the hdd values, and leave the bios alone.
(b) may be easier as it won't disturb w2k .
Just wondering : On the 30 GB partition , how big are the clusters ?
regards,
joseph
Sandhitsu R Das <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> I have W2K with NTFS on a single 30 gig hard drive. What's the best way to
> go about resizing/partitioning and installing Mandrake 7.1. I heard that
> DiskDrake can't resize NTFS. Also, is there a problem with LILO dual
> booting with this configuration ? Do I need to have FAT for W2K ?
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Install without floppy or CD?
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 21:57:23 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andrew J. Perrin wrote:
>We have an IBM laptop that runs Win95 at the moment, and we'd like to
>install linux on it instead, preferably RedHat because that's what
>we've got running elsewhere.
>
>The catch is, the floppy drive to the thing has long since
>disappeared, and we don't have a CD ROM for it. It does have a
>network connection, though, so we can mount a CD over the net.
You've got neither a floppy nor a CD?
You can use loadlin from Windows to boot an arbitrary kernel, but I don't
know how you tell that kernel to get it's ramdisk image off the net (I don't
think it's possible). You might be able to tell the kernel to get it's
ramdisk image off the DOS partition somehow, but that's going to be tricky
as well.
I'd try to borrow a floppy drive from sombody if I were you...
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! This MUST be a good
at party -- My RIB CAGE is
visi.com being painfully pressed up
against someone's MARTINI!!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: printing rtf documents
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 21:58:48 GMT
In article <8lq46b$ud$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, clear wrote:
>Can anyone tell me how to print rtf documents from Linux
Ted
WordPerfect
StarOffice
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! After THIS, let's go
at to PHILADELPHIA and have
visi.com TRIPLETS!!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: e2fsck problem
Date: 27 Jul 2000 21:59:43 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 23:09:32 +0200, Marco Baiocco wrote:
> It has always run fine till now, and it still does, but
>today I have noticed a small warning during the boot messages.
>It says something like the checking time has arrived, and that it
>should be wise to run e2fsck on the linux partitions. It has nothing
>to do with the maximal mount count, though, because it was written
>before, during and after the "forced check" due to the mount count.
>But then the warning still popped out. What should I do to convince
>linux I'm a good guy and I regularly check my filesystems, and that I
>just checked them?
This is a bit odd, since an fsck should set the "time since last check"
field appropriately. Anyway, you can disable the message by entering
"tune2fs -i 0 /dev/hdXY" when that particular partition is mounted
read-only. Have a look at the man page for tune2fs as well....
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Tyranny is always better organized
http://www.brainbench.com / than freedom.
=============================/ ==Charles Peguy
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From: Juha Laiho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Clueless Apache Admin Needs Help
Date: 27 Jul 2000 08:41:26 +0300
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>I can't for the life of me get the server to hand out .doc files in such
>a way that the browser requesting the file asks the user if he wants to
>save the file or launch it.
...
>The Appache error_log log file is giving me this error:
>
>[Mon Jul 24 08:38:39 2000] access to
>/home/sfs/public_html/SFS/Docs/PC/5.05/5.05
>UNINSTALL.doc failed for 130.224.20.84, reason: malformed header from
>script. Bad header=**^Q*_SD 3/4^Z*
>
>My /etc/mime.types files has this entry:
>application/msword doc
>
>My /etc/httpd/conf/srm.conf file has this entry:
>AddHandler send-as-is doc
>AddType application/msword doc
I'd claim it's that send-as-is; see the Apache documentation for the
details. Remove that line, restart your server and it should be working.
You might also remove either the mime.types or srm.conf entry for
doc<->application/msword handling; they're both doing exctly the same
thing.
>Any help/comments/suggestions greatly appreciated!
HTTP server related problems might get a better audience in
comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix .
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J Bland)
Subject: Re: SuSe kernel [was Re: Use "force" with rpm?]
Date: 27 Jul 2000 21:59:16 GMT
On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 17:09:08 GMT, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Jan writes:
>> Your system will run faster if you take out all the crap you don't need
>> and just compile stuff you do need into the kernel.
>
>That won't make the kernel faster: just smaller.
heh, if it's compiled for generic 386 or even pentium you're going to get
better performance by compiling one for 686.
Not sure if there's a performance hit for using modules over compiled-in
options.
And, surely, the less the kernel has in it to think about the quicker it will
be. (and, yes, smaller). If you're on a low RAM machine, saving a few
hundred k can make a bit of difference to the size of your buffers. You
won't be blown back by any speedups but they are there.
Frinky
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: printing rtf documents
Date: 27 Jul 2000 22:12:04 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 20:56:36 +0100, clear wrote:
>Can anyone tell me how to print rtf documents from Linux
StarOffice, Applixware, and AbiWord at least can open RTF documents, and
all of those programs can print those documents. StarOffice is free
(beer), Applix is payware, and AbiWord is free (speech and beer). I
don't know of anything that would, for example, directly convert RTF
into PostScript, but if you go to http://freshmeat.net/ and do a search
on "RTF", I'm sure you can find something. AbiWord is also linked from
http://abisource.com/ ; check it out--it's not quite full-featured, but
it is lightweight and it can handle simple MS-Word97 documents. Good luck.
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Tyranny is always better organized
http://www.brainbench.com / than freedom.
=============================/ ==Charles Peguy
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From: "Lloyd Llewelyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.X
Subject: Helix upgade trashed Sawfish
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 22:18:15 GMT
Ever since the latest Helix Gnome upgrade, I've been unable to use Sawfish,
and minimized apps no longer appear in the Gnome taskbar.
When I try to change WM to Sawfish in the control panel, it times out and
reverts to Enlightenment. A console message says "No such file or
directory: Sawmill". Not sure if this is necessarily related to my problem
though...
Has anyone else had this problem and (hopefully) found a solution? I'm
being driven back to Win2K!
Thanks
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From: Julian Cook/Sherab Gyatso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.networks,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Linux and Netgear RT311--?????
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 22:20:50 GMT
Hello folks!
I have a network I am trying to set up and I have wasted SO many hours
and no results.
One machine is Windows 98
The other is a Linux box running Slackware 7
Both machines are hooked into a Linksys 5 port workgroup hub
The Router is a Netgear RT311
This router has been great after some initial difficulty setting it up.
The Win machine
works great through it. My problem is setting up Linux and getting Linux
to see the
router..
The IP of the Router is 192.168.0.1
The Linux box uses a 3Com 509B NIC. The machine recognizes the card ok.
(Other info, it's a
Pentium 75)
When I type 'netconfig'
I put in these values .. hostname --> milarepa
Domain name --> this is a complete mystery to me. It's a private
network. What domain name? (I typed 'localnetwork' just for something to
put in)
The when given the options of Static IP, DHCP and loopback I selected
DHCP
Then I get the notification that "Your networking software has now been
configured"
Now on bootup after this (during startup), I get...
"Attempting to configure eth0 by contacting a DHCP server"
The corresponding hub light goes on during this period, the machine
hangs for about
30seconds and then the light goes out and I get
"Activating IPv4 packet forwarding"
After logging in, I type in "ifconfig" and the only thing that shows up
are the "lo" settings.
Needless to say pinging the router's IP at 192.168.0.1 gets me nothing.
except
ping : sendto: Network is unreachable
ping: wrote 192.168.0.1 64 chars, ret = -1
over and over......
When I type in "route" I get (hyphens added to keep thinsg lined up)
Destination--------Gateway---Genmask-------Flags---Metric---Ref--Use----Iface
loopback------------- *
----255.0.0.0--------U-------0-------0----0-------lo
Now when I type "netconfig"
I put in these values.. hostname --> milarepa
Domain name ---> again "localnetwork"
Then I choose Static IP instead of DHCP
Those values are.....
local machine IP ---> 192.168.0.4 (Win 98 machine is 192.168.0.2)
netmask ----> 255.255.255.0 (same as the Win 98 machine settings)
Gateway address ---- > 192.168.0.1 (same as Win 98 machine settings)
Will you be accessing a nameserver? ---> Yes
Enter name server for domain ---- > 24.11.248.17 (same as Win 98
machine settings, points to @home)
Next there is the option presented of "Probe for Network Card"
I select "Probe" and it successfully detects the 3c509 card
Then I get "Your networking software has now been configured"
Now when I boot the box I get (during startup) .....
Configuring eth0 as 192.168.0.4
eth0: Setting Rx mode to 1 addresses
"Activating IPv4 packet forwarding"
All this time the corresponding hub light on the box is on and stays on.
I log in, I type "ifconfig" and get both eth0 and lo settings
Typing "route", I get this .. (hyphens added to keep thinsg lined up)
Destination----Gateway-----Genmask------Flags----Metric--Ref---Use---Iface
localnet-------- *
======255.255.255.0===U========0=======0=====0=====eth0
loopback-------- *
=======255.0.0.0======U========0=======0=====0======lo
default------192.168.0.1---0.0.0.0-------UG-------1-------0-----0-----eth0
Now when I type "ping 192.168.0.1" to ping the router, nothing happens
I get a hang and 100% packet loss
When I look at the Hub, light 1 (where the 98 box is, is just fine)
Light 3 (the port where the Linux box is plugged in) and light 5 (which
I assume is the uplink light)
both flash in unison, not fast, maybe a second and half. When I stop the
'ping", the lights stop flashing.
I know I am SO close to getting this darn thing working but I have no
idea where to go after this.
Does anyone have any idea what we might do to solve this problem? This
is the first time I have ever
dealt with a router and linux and I am losing very valuable development
time over this seemingly simple
hang up.
Many thanks in advance to you all!
Very much!
Julian Cook
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bit Twister)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.suse
Subject: Re: finding my hacks
Reply-To: This_news_group.invalid
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 22:26:38 GMT
you could find some with
rpm -Va | grep '..5' > /tmp/verify
and check /tmp/verify
On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 13:33:37 +0000, robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm not really used to the modern rpm world, but is there any way I can
>find which of the important system files I have added or modified. I
>thought about using find to look at all the files and then checking with
>rpm which are no longer in a 'pristine' state.
--
The warranty and liability expired as you read the message.
If the above breaks your system, it's yours and you keep both pieces.
Practice safe computing. Backup the file before you change it.
Do a, man every_command_here, before doing anything or running a script.
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From: M. Vogelgesang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: BUG IN DYNAMIC LINKER ld.so: dynamic-link.h: 57: elf_get_dynamic_info:
Assertion `! "bad dynamic tag"' failed!
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:11:22 +0200
Peter Eddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
>
>I'm seeing this on RedHat 6.2 with kernel 2.2.16-3 when I try to login.
>I've even tried rebooting and same thing. I can't login remotely nor
>can I login from the console. I can use other services of the machine,
>such as nfs/smb with no problem.
>
>Anyone know how to fix this? I'm kindof stuck.
Hello!
Just an idea, I might be wrong... But I once got that message, too,
when I was going to launch my self-compiled quakeforge (glquakeworld).
At first, I thought there seems to be a bug as the message says, but I
found out that the problem was elsewhere:
I had compiled my quakeforge executable, while I had an older version
of libc (libc5). It didn't launch at that time.
Later, when I had glibc 2.07, it didn't launch either, but I got that
message about a bug in the dynamic linker.
ldd told me that the executable (which was compiled for libc5,
although it didn't work, as I mentioned) was being linked against
glibc2.07!!
I decided to recompile quakeforge, with glibc2.07 now. It worked, it
can be launched, and there is no more message about a bug in the
dynamic linker, and no, I didn't reinstall ldd, ld.so or whatever.
Hope, that makes a little sense
Manfred
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Alle Zahlen sind aus der e-mail-Adresse zu entfernen,
um mir per e-mail zu antworten.
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From: "Colin Reinhardt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: reinstalling LILO---doesn't work over Win2K???
Date: 27 Jul 2000 22:48:04 GMT
I lost LILO after reinstalling Win2K. I made a boot disk (bare.i) and got
back in to Linux.
Then I ran /sbin/lilo. It said.
Adding Linux...
Adding Win2000...
bla-bla-bla...
This should reset my MBR to point to LILO right???
(in lilo.conf install=/boot/boot.b, which is what I want and the default...)
When I rebooted, it still boots right into Win2K.
Help!?!?
thx,
Colin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Zebee Johnstone)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: fixing MBR to see linux again (post Win2K install...)
Date: 27 Jul 2000 21:49:41 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In comp.os.linux.setup on Thu, 27 Jul 2000 12:33:29 -0700
colinr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I had RedHat up and running real nice---dual booting between Linux and Win2K
>using LILO as boot manager.
>Then I reinstalled Win2K. Now it boots directly into Win2K without the
>slightest regard for Linux.
>I assume M$ was nice enough to overwrite my MBR info.
>
>How can I restore this? My kernel vmlinuz is on the third partition (I
>believe /dev/hda2)
>I have access to rawrite, fips, restorrb, etc... I don't have an existing
>LILO bootdisk.
>
>What do I need to do to make things happy again?
Well.. if you put lilo on the 3rd partition instead of the MBR, (a
good idea with dual boot systems) then it's easy.
Get dos fdisk
set the machine to boot from the linux partition.
If it was on the MBR, it will have to be put back on there.
YOu should probably search out one of the rescue disk things, try
google - go to web directory, computers, software, operating systems,
linux, distributions, mini-linux, single floppy. there's a rescue
list there too.
Zebee
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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 18:46:03 -0400
From: sandrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.X
Subject: Re: Helix upgade trashed Sawfish
Lloyd Llewelyn wrote:
>
> Ever since the latest Helix Gnome upgrade, I've been unable to use Sawfish,
> and minimized apps no longer appear in the Gnome taskbar.
>
> When I try to change WM to Sawfish in the control panel, it times out and
> reverts to Enlightenment. A console message says "No such file or
> directory: Sawmill". Not sure if this is necessarily related to my problem
> though...
>
> Has anyone else had this problem and (hopefully) found a solution? I'm
> being driven back to Win2K!
>
> Thanks
When I installed Helix-Gnome (I bought the CD) It didn`t
configure E correctly, I
didn`t get all the jazzy icons etc. I deleted the X files 8^)
the configuration
file for X and the WM files in my home directory. Upon a restart
all was well.
--
M$ Windows is aptly named, after all, it's easily broken, and
offers little
security, just like the glass ones...
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