Linux-Misc Digest #332, Volume #25 Thu, 3 Aug 00 18:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Why do I have to put "./" in front of "apachectl"? (Vilmos Soti)
finding dynamic library files? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Flash Plugin for netscape+xmms = Netscape freezing? (Stewart Honsberger)
Powerpoint viewer
Re: Inicio de Linux (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Luis Domingo =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=F3pez?=)
Icons garbled after gnome-libs upgrade (Volker St�rzl)
Java path! (Michael Andersson)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Robert Krawitz)
Re: Powerpoint viewer (David Dorward)
Re: Good alternative to outlook. (Mike Styne)
Re: finding dynamic library files?
Re: How to install new hardware in Linux? (Mike Styne)
Re: Learn Unix on which Unix Flavour ? (Grant Edwards)
Re: boot disk question (Mike Styne)
Re: Linux on Mac LC III possible? (Grant Edwards)
Re: Should we get Mandrake or SuSe? (Mike Styne)
Re: Redhat 6.0 & Win98 (Mike Styne)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
Re: DMA buffers (Dances With Crows)
Help: prob w/ gcc+emacs, ESC seqs seen (Jay Dresser)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
Re: sendmail - 2 questions (Steve Maughan)
Re: Quicktime player? (Sorenson Video) (Steve Maughan)
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Subject: Re: Why do I have to put "./" in front of "apachectl"?
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 20:31:05 GMT
"Chris Schachte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Sorry this is such a stupid question...
The stupidest questions is the one you don't ask.
> According to the feedback, all seemed to go well and I could see the files
> in all the places I had been lead to expect them. However, if I typed
> /usr/local/apache/bin/apachectl start, bash reported that there is no such
> file or directory. After being confused for a while, I figured that
> apachectl was a script like configure and thus needed the ./ in front of it.
Maybe you provided a wrong path.
> My question is, what is the meaning of the "./"? Is it simply an indicator
Usually the present directory is not on your path for security reasons.
Therefore, if you want to execute a program in the present directory,
and that dierctory is not on the path, you will get the aforementioned
error. The ./ is a representation for the full path and at that time
you give proper path to the shell to find the file you want to execute.
> to unix that the filename that follows is a script? In the previous install
It has nthing to do with scripts. It has to do with executable programs,
and since scripts are those, it also applies to them.
> of Apache, the ./ was uneccessary, and the apachectl worked even if the
> working directory was incorrect or the path was omitted. Is this simply
Because that apachectl was on your path.
Vilmos
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: finding dynamic library files?
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 20:34:21 GMT
installed the gdkpixbuf and gnomecanvaspixbuf library file for gnome, to use
insted of imlib...
problem: on doing the stand ./configre;make;make install the library is
installed in /usr/local/lib
question: how do i make the dynamic library loader 'aware' that it should also
search this directory as opposed to the 'standard' ones. i have come across
this problem b4, on istalling additional library;s they have been installed to
the /usr/local/lib directory BUT then programs that require them canNOT find
them and hence fail.
luke duguid
--
no signature...yet!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Subject: Re: Flash Plugin for netscape+xmms = Netscape freezing?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 20:44:04 GMT
On 3 Aug 2000 11:06:02 GMT, Fung Wai Keung wrote:
>The problem is solved with the recent netscape 4.74 mdk packages.
I'm not sure what the original thread was about, but I too have experienced
problems with Netscape Communicator 4.72 + Shockwave Flash + XMMS. On an
Intel Pentium II CPU system with 64MB RAM, MP3's played under XMMS would
skip, stutter, and eventually die completely when I viewed a Flash page
under Netscape. On an AMD K62-400 CPU with the same amount of RAM and the
same software config (same versions of Netscape, XMMS, and Flash) the
problem didn't occur.
I've never, however, had any of the three crash on me while running
simultaneously.
--
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://tinys.cx/blackdeath
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE 6.4, Linux 2.4.0-test5
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Powerpoint viewer
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 15:40:15 -0500
Is there a Linux tool for viewing Powerpoint Files? Kpresenter crashed on me and
everything else seems Palm-based. I'd even be willing to pay $$ for such, as long
as I don't have to buy a whole "office suite".
Thanks,
Roger
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Luis Domingo =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=F3pez?=
Subject: Re: Inicio de Linux
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 20:50:18 GMT
Hi Miguel Mart�nez:
>
> Jos� Luis Domingo L�pez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribi� en el mensaje de
> noticias [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Remember that this is a linux newsgroup where english is the "official"
> > language, and we should write in that language (although sometimes this
> > doesn't happen). If we are unconfortable writing in english, we can go to
> > the spanish-speaking linux newsgroups, es.comp.os.linux.*.
> >
> Sorry... You are right :)
No problemo Miguel :)
Jos� Luis Domingo L�pez
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From: Volker St�rzl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Icons garbled after gnome-libs upgrade
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 22:46:19 +0200
Hello,
after upgrading gnome-libs from 1.0.8 to 1.2.4 the icons for buttons and
menus look totally garbled. They seem to be heavily shrinked and appear
several times. Does anybody know this effect? Is there any solution?
An upgrade of imlib to 1.9.8.1 and libpng to 1.0.8 didn't help.
P.S.: The png-files of the icons in the directory libgnomeui/pixmaps can
be correctly viewed with XView.
--
Volker Stuerzl
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Michael Andersson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Java path!
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 22:58:20 +0200
Hi,
I've just installed jdk1.3 from sun. Now I want to add the jdk path so
that I can reach the compiler from anywhere. Since I use bash I've tried
PATH=$PATH:/usr/java/jdk1.3/bin but with out result. I must be in the
/usr/java/jdk1.3/bin directory to be able to compil. Why?
Need your help, please!
Thanks!
Michael Andersson
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From: Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: 03 Aug 2000 17:11:03 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jay Maynard) writes:
> I take particular offense at this, as I consider myself a Southerner. Once
> again, you ignore basic facts and human rights, just as with your leftist
> gun-grabbing position: selling your children into slavery harms them, but
> the original software is now, and will forever be, free, NO MATTER WHAT
> ANYONE ELSE DOES WITH IT. You seek to deny me the right to control my own
> work merely because it is an improvement on your work. This is not freedom.
> It is communism.
It's every bit as communistic as the fact that you are not allowed to
control a work that you write that is a derivative of e. g. a Star
Trek episode.
Now, as it happens I do believe that copyright is anti-free-market in
the sense that the government intervenes to protect a private monopoly
from competition (that's not usually called "communism"; it's more
like mercantilism). I would personally be quite happy to give up the
GPL in exchange for the complete abolition of copyright.
However, under the notion of copyright, an author has a right to
control over the copying of his work. That right also extends to
works derived from his original work, or it would be a pretty weak
right (imagine, for example, if you could get around copyright by the
simple expedient of changing the spelling of one word, or one
character's name).
In any event, the GPL does NOT control your right to do what you will
with your own work, even modifications of it, as long as you do not
redistribute (copy) it.
--
Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/
Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2
Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Project lead for The Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net
"Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works."
--Eric Crampton
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From: David Dorward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Powerpoint viewer
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 21:57:10 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Is there a Linux tool for viewing Powerpoint Files? Kpresenter crashed on me and
> everything else seems Palm-based. I'd even be willing to pay $$ for such, as long
> as I don't have to buy a whole "office suite".
Star Office does I believe. You don't have to buy it as it is a free
download. http://www.sun.com/linux/ IIRC
--
David Dorward
http://www.dorward.co.uk/
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Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 17:16:59 -0400
From: Mike Styne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Good alternative to outlook.
You might want to check out Evolution (still very much in development)
at:
www.helixcode.com
I haven't tried it yet, but it sounds close to what you're describing.
Mike
P.S. Ditch your NT partition anyway. :-)
--
"You know, how is The Force like duct tape? Answer: it has a light side,
a dark side, and it holds the universe together."
-- Larry Wall (Open Sources, 1999 O'Reilly and Associates)
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: finding dynamic library files?
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 16:17:25 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> installed the gdkpixbuf and gnomecanvaspixbuf library file for gnome, to use
> insted of imlib...
> problem: on doing the stand ./configre;make;make install the library is
> installed in /usr/local/lib
> question: how do i make the dynamic library loader 'aware' that it should also
> search this directory as opposed to the 'standard' ones. i have come across
> this problem b4, on istalling additional library;s they have been installed to
> the /usr/local/lib directory BUT then programs that require them canNOT find
> them and hence fail.
> luke duguid
setenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH directory1:directory2:..:directoryn
unless I am missing somethin
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Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 17:20:40 -0400
From: Mike Styne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to install new hardware in Linux?
E J wrote:
> If I am still stuck, pay Redhat, Caldera, SUSE, etc for support.
Arrrgh. paying for linux support? I'd rather have my kidneys removed
with a shoehorn.
--
"You know, how is The Force like duct tape? Answer: it has a light side,
a dark side, and it holds the universe together."
-- Larry Wall (Open Sources, 1999 O'Reilly and Associates)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.solaris.x86,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Learn Unix on which Unix Flavour ?
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 21:22:03 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Lew Pitcher wrote:
>Ed Reppert wrote:
>>
>> In article <8m36fh$dtt$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alan Coopersmith
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > Officially, any OS that gets certified as meeting the standards set
>> > forth by the Open Group can be called "UNIX(TM)" - currently that list
>> > includes Solaris, AIX, Tru64 (aka Digital UNIX), IRIX, UnixWare, HP-UX,
>> > and even IBM OS/390.
>>
>> OS/390 is Unix?! When did that happen?
>
>IIRC, 1998 or so. It happened when the MVS Unix System Services (USS)
>subsystem passed the X/Open conformancy tests. IBM made a big thing of
>it at the time; it officially permitted US Govt. purchasers to
>purchase MVS under the Posix-compliancy rules.
Posix-compliance and the right to use the Unix(tm) are two
different things, aren't they?
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! Life is a POPULARITY
at CONTEST! I'm REFRESHINGLY
visi.com CANDID!!
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Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 17:26:02 -0400
From: Mike Styne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: boot disk question
> I want to create a basic floppy disk with a minimal kernel and
> root system.
If you check out www.freshmeat.net there are TONS of postings about
linux "distributions" that fit on a single floppy. Pretty sweet, huh?
Mike
--
"You know, how is The Force like duct tape? Answer: it has a light side,
a dark side, and it holds the universe together."
-- Larry Wall (Open Sources, 1999 O'Reilly and Associates)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.m68k
Subject: Re: Linux on Mac LC III possible?
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 21:26:18 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark Valiukas wrote:
>Grant Edwards wrote:
>
>> Last time I checked (which was several months ago), you had to
>> have hardware FPU support to boot the Linux kernel on a 68K
>> Mac.
>
>Last time I tried, which was several months ago, I managed to boot
>my IIvi ('030, 16MHz?, no fpu). Don't know how _well_ it performs,
>as I didn't do much more than that, but I did manage to create an ext2
>filesystem and do a really small, really useless installation on the big
>80Mb drive :-)
Cool. Things have progressed since the last time I played with
linux/mac/68K stuff.
Unfortunately, on the Mac's I've got sitting at home the SCSI
controller is so CPU intensive that the machines are next to
useless for any sort of multi-tasking OS. The non-accellerated
frame-buffer graphics makes X11 painfully slow also. Oh, and
there are no Linux drivers for the SCSI/Ethernet adapter I've
got.
Still, it was an interesting excercise.
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! After this, I'm going
at to BURN some RUBBER!!
visi.com
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Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 17:32:20 -0400
From: Mike Styne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Should we get Mandrake or SuSe?
Mitchell Timin wrote:
>
<snipped, blah>
>
Having worked with SuSE, Mandrake and RedHat, I can safely say they are
basically the same. Granted, SuSE comes with the most packages, Mandrake
has an almost foolproof install, and RedHat is somewhere in between.
Also, Mandrake (7.1) makes an attempt at USB support, something (as far
as I know) SuSE and RedHat haven't touched upon yet. It really comes
down to what software you need installed. Personally, I prefer Slackware
because I got sick of all the hand-holding those distributions provide.
I felt like a sissy. Also, the suggestion to pay for Linux sickens me.
No one with even a fairly mediocre internet connection should EVER have
to pay for Linux.
Regards,
Mike
--
"You know, how is The Force like duct tape? Answer: it has a light side,
a dark side, and it holds the universe together."
-- Larry Wall (Open Sources, 1999 O'Reilly and Associates)
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Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 17:35:42 -0400
From: Mike Styne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Redhat 6.0 & Win98
bruce mcdougald wrote:
>
> Can you run Windows 98 under Linux? If so, how?
What "Hil" fails to mention is that VMWare, although a very cool
concept, requires *mucho mas* computing power than the average Joe or
Jane has sitting on their desktop. Before installing VMWare, be sure
your system can handle it.
Regards,
Mike
--
Your business will go through a period of considerable expansion.
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 14:36:46 -0700
Jean-David Beyer-valinux wrote:
>
> blowfish wrote:
>
> > John Hasler wrote:
> > >
> > > blowfish writes:
> > > > I did have many of my work copyrighted (not computer related, but in
> > > > arts.)
> > >
> > > No. You have _all_ of your works copyrighted. Copyright is automatic.
> > >
> > No. You have to file for copyrights on each piece of work, or as a
> > batch. It's NOT automatic.
> >
> > I've been doing this for ages.
> >
> > > Go study up a bit on copyright.
> > After you.
>
> Things may have changed again, but when I did study up on copyright, an
> author owns a copyright in anything he produces at the time of creation.
> However, if the copyright is not asserted by registering it with the
> Copyright Office (and payment of necessary fees), you can recover much less
> in the case of infringement.
>
The bare minimum that one should do to ensure that s/he will have more
saying under the law is to seal a copy of the creation in an envelope or
something. Then, take it to the post office, send it back to yourself.
Make sure the postoffice has postmarked it. And DON't open the package
when you get it back in the mail.
Or, get a notary public to certify the copy. Signed and dated it.
But still, the best way is to send a copy to the copyright office by
REGISTERED MAIL.
Don't forget, the GNU-GPL might not hold any water in the court of law.
I wouldn't trust it at all to protect my rights. Just like the company
policy written on the back of a lot of sales receipts from department
stores and so on. The city,county, state, fed laws all can over-rule it.
To protect yourself, in case you might change your mind later on.
Copyright your creation with the copyright office first. Then, you CAN
still contribute your work to the free software under your own terms.
Because copyright laws are federal law, and many are international law
as well, and , they have over-ruling power over local and state law. Or
the GNU-GPL.
BTW. Is the GNU-GPL just created by some geek, but not by lawyers?
> --
> Jean-David Beyer .~.
> Shrewsbury, New Jersey /V\
> Registered Linux User 85642. /( )\
> Registered Machine 73926. ^^-^^
--
- Alex / blowfish.
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
KISS rules. That's why I use Easy Edit (ee). Small. Simple and fast.
:-)
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song)Fingerprint -v.i007bond: Doe1(-a deer a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: DMA buffers
Date: 3 Aug 2000 21:28:11 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 03 Aug 2000 11:16:16 -0700, JCA wrote:
> Is there a way to manipulate the sizes and number of DMA buffers?
>I've got an application that every so often fails because it can't
>allocate a DMA buffer, and this is beginning to piss me off. Please
More detail, please? The only things that need DMA buffers *should* be
device drivers that directly access things on the ISA bus. Userland
applications should not be messing around with lowlevel things like
that. If you're having problems with an ISA soundcard, there's an
option you can pass to the sound module like so:
insmod sound dmabuf=1
that should allocate a permanent DMA buffer for the sound module under
the 16M limit. Most ISA devices that require DMA buffers should have
options similar to that. Or you can try compiling the sound support
directly into the kernel, where it won't get unloaded (losing its DMA
buffer in the process) during long periods of inactivity.
>I need the system exactly as it is right now.
I thought you said you were unhappy with its configuration? Fixing the
problem will involve changing *something*, probably something in the
kernel.
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Tyranny is always better organized
http://www.brainbench.com / than freedom.
=============================/ ==Charles Peguy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jay Dresser)
Subject: Help: prob w/ gcc+emacs, ESC seqs seen
Date: 3 Aug 2000 14:45:37 -0700
I just upgraded from Mandrake 6.2 to 7.1 and a new problem has arisen.
I develop by invoking gcc from within Emacs. It's nice because Emacs
parses the output looking for errors, then goes through one at a time
and points the cursor to the line with the error.
It used to be that the output displayed in the Emacs window with some
words in green and the errors in red. Since the upgrade the errors
show up with escape sequences in the buffer and it will not parse them
correctly. For example instead of the color (which I can't
demonstrate here) I see something like:
g++ maildup.cc -o maildup -g -pipe -Wreturn-type -Wunused -Wformat
-DFREEBSD -DLINUX -I. -I.. -IJlib -IJLib -L. -LJlib -LJLib
-L/opt/beta/lib -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/openwin/lib -L/utility/beta/lib
-ljay++ -ljay -lm -lz
^[[0m/tmp/ccjBd1iz.o: In function `^[[0m^[[1;36mMemMap::~MemMap(void)^[[0m^[[0m':
^[[0m^[[0m/home/jay/Cdev/JLib/myclasses.h(.TigerHash::gnu.linkonce.t.Put(char *,
int)+0x19): undefined reference to `tiger(unsigned long *, unsigned long, unsigned
long *)'
^[[0mcollect2: ld returned 1 exit status
...and so I see the literal escape sequences.
I tried installing the latest Emacs (20.7) but no change. I'm not
sure if the problem is in Emacs, gcc, or Linux.
I'm hoping someone out there has encountered and fixed this. ???
Thanks for any help.
--
Jay Dresser / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 14:52:01 -0700
Christopher Browne wrote:
>
> Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when blowfish would say:
> >Christopher Browne wrote:
> >>
> >> Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when blowfish would say:
> >> >John Hasler wrote:
> >> >> blowfish writes:
> >> >> > Sure. *BSD are making money too. But they do allow the developers to keep
> >> >> > their codes proprietary; just a tiny bit more option for the
> >> >> > contributors- in my fscking opinion.
> >> >>
> >> >> I retain the right to license my code to any one I choose under any terms I
> >> >> choose whether I release it under the GPL or the BSD license or any other
> >> >> free software license. The terms of the license do not bind the author.
> >> >>
> >> >> > I'll re-read the GNU-GPL again.
> >> >>
> >> >> First go study up a bit on copyright.
> >> >
> >> >I will. I did have many of my work copyrighted (not computer related,
> >> >but in arts.)
> >>
> >> You, as author, automatically have rights to copy the material as you
> >> please.
> >
> >Yes. But still you have to file for copyrights before you can be legally
> >protected under the law.
> >
> >Write to your local government printing office, get the booklet, it'll
> >costs you a few dollars for the booklet on how to do it.
>
> Automatic copyright protection has been in place in the United States
> since January 1, 1978, before which time statutory copyright protection
> required either:
> a) Publishing a work, or
> b) Registering it with the US Copyright Office
> in order to have any protection under US law.
>
Thanks for the updates. I've been doing it the old way. Oh well! Didn't
hurt anything though.
Got to have them registered one way or another. :-)
> Under the present law, you only need to register the work before
> initiating the lawsuit. Thus, if someone rips off your Great Software
> Work, it suffices to take a copy of the work over to the Copyright
> Office before heading off to court.
>
No. I have copyrighted many of my art work and photography. Some have
been published internationally. :-)
My sig is not kidding. My Un-Geek codes. I'm really Non-Geek. :P
Programming and IT stuff are just some of my hobbies and self-taught,
and people are willing to pay me for my knowledge. :-)
> The law already protects you, but you need to register before _going
> to court_.
>
Yeah. That I know.
> >> The critical point is that the GPL does not make any claim to apply to
> >> the author.
>
> >No. I'm *not* talking about GNU-GPL here.
>
> The discussion was about the GPL, and its effects.
>
> >> The way that the GPL _would_ apply to you would be if you transferred
> >> exclusive copyright over to, let's say, the FSF.
>
> >I'm talking about pure commercial work.
>
> Fine.
>
> >> <http://gcc.gnu.org/fsf-forms/assignment-instructions.html> describes
> >> this process; while the default assignment _is_ of exclusive
> >> copyright, the grantor has the right to get back a non-exclusive
> >> copyright given written notice:
> >>
> >> "Upon thirty days' prior written notice, the Foundation agrees to
> >> grant me non-exclusive rights to use the Work (i.e. my changes and
> >> enhancements, not the program which I enhanced) as I see fit; (and
> >> the Foundation's rights shall otherwise continue unchanged)."
> >>
> >> Note that the _as I see fit_ part is what specifically allows you to,
> >> even after the assignment, do _whatever you want_ with the software,
> >> except, of course, for taking back the copy rights that were assigned
> >> to the FSF.
> >
> >I'm talking about pure commercial work, where I, as the creator and the
> >copyrights owner, have the *absolute* sayings, in what can, and what not
> >can be use with my work, and not without my specific permission, and/or
> >additional payments to me.
> >
> >ANY changes *must* be approved by me before anything can be carry out.
> >
> >And any additional usage, regardless of media, or longer than the time
> >frame, the geographical location, or even translated to a different
> >language, as specified in the original contract, are all require
> >additional payment.
> >
> >And any delay of payments are subjected to additional interests charges.
> >
> >Sorry. There's *no free beer or free lunch* in reality.
>
> Again, who else said anything about there being a free lunch, aside
> from yourself? You're projecting some belief that you want to think
> that others have. Some _are_ foolish enough to believe that there
> is such a thing as a "truly free lunch." Reality is otherwise.
Yes, I agree with you. But some people do believe they can get free
lunch. But not me.
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/linux.html>
> "For systems, the analogue of a face-lift is to add to the control
> graph an edge that creates a cycle, not just an additional node."
> -- Alan Perlis
--
- Alex / blowfish.
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
KISS rules. That's why I use Easy Edit (ee). Small. Simple and fast.
:-)
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song)Fingerprint -v.i007bond: Doe1(-a deer a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
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From: Steve Maughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: sendmail - 2 questions
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 13:23:33 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Elliot wrote:
> 2 With sendmail, how do you send out one of those 'I am away until ..'
> type letters, as well as storing the message until they return.
I don't know how to do this with sendmail, but I think you can do this with
procmail - get it and "man 5 procmailex" and about halfway down(?) there is
a bit describing how to set up away-messages.
--
Steve Maughan
Don't run away from your problems...
Riding is much faster.
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From: Steve Maughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Quicktime player? (Sorenson Video)
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 13:29:55 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
David Steuber wrote:
> Xanim doesn't play Sorenson Video encoded Quicktime .mov files,
> neither do any other players I've found for Linux. I might have
> missed some though. Does anyone have a link to the homepage of a
> Linux Quicktime video player that *does* support this CODEC?
I've had the same problem. I'm not 100% sure, but I heard somewhere that the Sorenson
codec is a propriety thing which the makers of quicktime (apple? - can't remember at
the moment) won't release. If anyone knows any different, then post what you know!
--
Steve Maughan
Don't run away from your problems...
Riding is much faster.
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