Linux-Misc Digest #413, Volume #25 Fri, 11 Aug 00 09:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: How to start the ftp? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Linux on AMD (Paul Milliot)
BIOS calls (Werner =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=FChnert?=)
Re: those damn ^M characters from win files... (Villy Kruse)
Re: Java ide (Kenny A. Chaffin)
how to configure modem,sound card in linux6.2 (uzman ali)
radius packet errors (danielk)
Re: Linux for Windows opnion requested (Tony Lawrence)
Re: PHP on RedHat 6.2 (Rudi Sluijtman)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Please Bare With Me(another question) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Couldn't open Netscape ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: What would cause disk thrashing while idle? (Andrew Purugganan)
Re: BIOS calls (Lew Pitcher)
Re: Quick questions : installing RPM's in X ("Michael")
Opinions on twm and fvwm? ("Chew GH")
Re: How to start the ftp? (Andrew Purugganan)
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: How to start the ftp?
Date: 11 Aug 2000 10:18:19 GMT
In comp.os.linux.help Alan Po <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I am using Mandrake Linux and I find that the ftp server is not
: automatically startup. How can I run a ftp server on my Linux? Please give
: me some idea.
1) install one
2) configure it
3) start it
4) test it
5) reconfigure it (repeat 3/4/5 until satisfied)
6) configure your machine to start it at bootup or on demand
: Furhtermore, I found that Mandrake Linux request to run many servers by
"Request to run"? Sorry, but that phrase is hard to interpret in this
context. Do you mean "asks if you want to install", during the mandrake
install procedure? If so, answer y or n and continue with the installation
of mandrake.
: manual such as Apache or Samba. How can I config the Linux so that these
: servers will run when startup?
As above. I think it's time you did some reading. You might start with
step 1. This means getting the appropriate rpm package off your cd, if
you didn't do it during the basic install.
Peter
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From: Paul Milliot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux on AMD
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 10:31:57 GMT
Hi,
Boddhisatva Troutwaxer wrote:
>> shook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >I am thinking of setting up Linux on an AMD machine. Did you
>> have any
>> >problem with the install or after the install?
>> >
>> >Shook
>>
>> The one issue you should be aware of if you are using AMD to save
>> money is that you cannot go cheap on the memory. Linux really
>> needs to have good, high quality memory.
>>
>> Also, if you have one of those motherboards that uses both kinds
>> of memory, be aware that the 72 pin implementation on some of
>> those motherboards is not very good. Return your 72 pin memory to
>> the store and get the good stuff.
>>
>> I also had terrible problems with overheating the first time I
>> tried an AMD, but that was because I had a ribbon cable caught
>> in the fan. ;)
Funny I've got exactly the same problem.
I think this is an AMD thing. :-)
>I've set up an AMD K-6/3 3DNow on an Epox mobo , with 2x64MB PC-100RAM.
>It's pretty nice. Yeah, you do need a good heatsink and a good ball
>bearing fan.
I run the Mandrake 7.1 distro on an AMD 350 Mhz with 96 MB PC-100RAM
without any kind of problem.
A dream.
Until next time,
Paul (from France).
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From: Werner =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=FChnert?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: BIOS calls
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 12:34:38 +0200
Hi,
Can anybody give me a pointer to a _complete_ list of BIOS functions
called by Linux ?
TIA, Werner Kuehnert
--
Werner Kuehnert Siemens AG Oesterreich PSE EZE PN DN 1
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: those damn ^M characters from win files...
Date: 11 Aug 2000 10:40:45 GMT
On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 12:15:22 +0200,
Tino Keitel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>"Kirk R. Wythers" wrote:
>>
>> Can anyone suggest a utility or better yet an option in an editor
>> (emacs, xemacs, vi, whatever...) that can search for and remove the
>> return characters (^M) from windows files? I'd appreciate it. Thanks,
>>
>> Kirk
>
>man dos2unix
>
>Tino
$ man dos2unix
No manual entry for dos2unix
Villy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenny A. Chaffin)
Subject: Re: Java ide
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 05:03:38 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Hello,
>
> Under windows I use Kawa and I like it a lot (Kawa, not windows ;) ). Is
> there a similair IDE available for Linux?
>
> thanks,
> Emiel.
>
>
> --
> "I have opinions of my own - strong opinions - but I don't always agree
> with them"
> -George Bush
>
Not exactly, but jbuilder and forte are available for linux...
KAC
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Custom Programming, Web Design, and Graphics
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From: uzman ali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: how to configure modem,sound card in linux6.2
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 11:29:51 GMT
Hello every one
I have installed recently Linux6.2 !st time on my PC.I dont know how to
install and configure my Zoltrix Cobra Modem nad Yamaha Sound Card,if any
1 could help me.
Thanxs
uzman ali
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From: danielk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: radius packet errors
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 13:42:35 +0200
Hi,
I'm running a radius deamon but keep getting the following errors:
Fri Aug 11 13:41:30 2000 [1]: Inconsistent packet length (hlen 62, len
80)
Fri Aug 11 13:41:33 2000 [1]: Inconsistent packet length (hlen 62, len
80)
Fri Aug 11 13:41:36 2000 [1]: Inconsistent packet length (hlen 62, len
80)
Anyone know something about this?
--
Daniel
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From: Tony Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux for Windows opnion requested
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 07:47:11 -0400
Johan Kullstam wrote:
>
> "Gerardo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I saw the Lin 4 Win for $20. Any opinions?
> >
> > Does it come complete including, Netscape, auto updates,
> > etc.... Is it just as good as the standard Macmillan Mandrake 7.1?
>
> since the window-linux has to live on MS's FAT filesystem, it will be
> slow and force the use of various kludges to get unix file permissions
> &c. the windows linux is for people who want to try before committing.
Win4lin does NOT live on a FAT filesystem. You install it
and Windows right on your e2fs fs. See
http://pcunix.com/Reviews/win4lin.html
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Subject: Re: PHP on RedHat 6.2
From: Rudi Sluijtman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 11:50:07 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I am trying to get PHP running but I am stopped at the configure step.
> I want to do the dynamic as a posed to the static install. The
> directions say to use the --with-apxs option but my system does not
> have it anywhere. I do have Pearl 5.0 loaded, What am I doing wrong.
apxs is part of the apache distribution. Did you intsall apache?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 12:12:50 +0100
blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> I'm the one who's defending copyrights, not the other way around.
> I AM ALL FOR COPYRIGHTS.
> It's those FSF GNU-GPL geeks that are disagreeing with copyrights.
God, he's a thickee... They defend the concept of copyright faaar more than
some other "free" licences. All they say is that if you release source code
under GPL, noone cas steal your code and use it in proprietory software
without your express permission, and if they modify it, they have to release
the later versions under the same license. (Only fair, don'tchathink?)
What IS you problem with that? The author has the right to do what the HELL
he likes with his own code, and that, to me, is the most reasonable license
out there for source code.
If someone DID want to release a proprietory program built around my code, I
could come to an alternative arrangement with them, using a different
license.
> Read the thread again.
No chance!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 12:28:39 +0100
blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> But if you say, write a piece of code in C. and commanded it in English,
> Irish, Welsh, German, French, Spanish, Portugese, Latin, Persian,
> Arabic, Hebrew, Korean, Chinese, Japanese, Zulu, Yuhoo, Yahoo, Googoo,
> Woo Wee. etc. Most still won't be able to understand the code. If
> they've no programming trainning. They might understand the command, but
> still not the actual codes.
And this has what to do with anything?
People who ARE trained and CAN program MIGHT be able to understand the code.
Anything that's human generated with the purpose of transfer of
understanding or knowledge is considered "speech".
Do you deny that? Because source code has two purposes. Compile into
computer executable code, and express the functions of the program in human
readable form...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 12:37:44 +0100
blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> So. You're hired hand for Debian. Or unofficial hired hand (or coder, if
> you prefer.) No?
It's rather traditional to be payed when someone hires you...
When did Debian pay him anything?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 12:39:41 +0100
blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> John Hasler wrote:
>>
>> blowfish writes:
>> > Anyway. You have sold your code for profit.
>>
>> For there to have been a sale there would have to have been a contract
>> which obligated me to deliver the code and my customer to pay me. None of
>> my Debian work has involved such a contract (some of my other work has).
>>
> Then, please enlighten me in how to make $25k for no reason.
He's already explained the VA Linux IPO!
Are you thick, or what?
> I don't mind to have that happen to me a few times a year. :-)
>> > Because you know the whole idea of GNU-GPL, FSF and profit takings are
>> > contradictory to one another.
>>
>> Wrong.
> Right!
No, wrong!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Please Bare With Me(another question)
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 12:49:11 +0100
DeAnn Iwan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> Your hardware is likely to be supported, even if it is
> not listed specifically. For the video card, you need to find out
> what chip set it uses, and then try the drivers for that chip set.
And if you use the command SuperProbe, that should report the chipset you're
using...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Couldn't open Netscape
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 13:01:28 +0100
ywk@SuSE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> Hi :inuxers
> I am running SuSE 6.4 with netscape 4.72. The problem is Netscape
> couldnot pop up on all my users' desktop. I have checked the settings,
> nothing wrong! Just SuSE keeps writing a lock file to .netscape
> directory that block the initialization of the browser, why?
> there is no problem on root
> anything i can do about it please?
When netscape starts, it creates the lock file to prevent more instances of
the browser from being loaded.
Normally, when you exit Netscape in the usual manner, this lock file gets
deleted as it shuts down, but if netscape crashed, the lock file sometimes
remains, which cocks up netscape the next time it loads.
Simply delete the lock file from the .netscape directory...
If you want to delete all occurances of it when no users are logged in and
using netscape, something like
rm `find /home -name .netscape/lock`
should clean up all your users .netscape directories at once...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Re: What would cause disk thrashing while idle?
Date: 11 Aug 2000 12:23:58 GMT
Kousik Nandy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
[ On 11 Aug 2000 02:13:25 GMT, Andrew Purugganan wrote:
[ > Suddenly you hear it firing up, that annoying noise the hard drive makes
[ > when it gets busy, the loadmeter shows green turning yellow and then red
[ > and stays that way while the thrashing builds up. My keyboard becomes
[ > useless, the thrashing continues, and the only way to get back to a
[ > usable state is to turn the thing off.
[ time you fire up netscape, or does this happen on certain time of a day
Not everytime, I just notice that nscape seems to be left open in my X
session when this happens, that's why it's a suspect
But then again maybe I just used the PC late at night that the cron-daily
updatedb/slocate job kicks off, which leads me to my next question: how
to script some of those cron jobs so they do NOT run when the PC is in
use by a carbon-based organism?
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Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Subject: Re: BIOS calls
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 12:31:36 GMT
On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 12:34:38 +0200, Werner =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=FChnert?=
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Can anybody give me a pointer to a _complete_ list of BIOS functions
>called by Linux ?
Sure.
There are no BIOS functions called by Linux
Lew Pitcher
Information Technology Consultant
Toronto Dominion Bank Financial Group
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)
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From: "Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Quick questions : installing RPM's in X
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 08:31:15 -0400
The suggestion you made makes it sound like all users of X will have
root access...or am I missing something? If it does give everyone root
priviledges in X, that is certainly not my intention...but I will
investigate your solution.
Since I don't want to get flamed, or misunderstood, let me tell you
where I am coming from...I have worked on all windoze systems, including
administering an NT server. I have experimented with SCO, and also with
the DEC Alpha processor systems, running NT.
I am not a Microsoft basher, but don't believe they write good code for
their programs. (having worked on their helpdesk for 2 years and seeing
all the 'undocumented glitches'). I look at operating systems from the
viewpoint of features, stability, and what could be added to it to
improve it.
That said...
In Win 2k, if you do something that requires an administrator
priviledge, you get prompted for the administrator password. You enter
it and continue.
I believe SCO has the same feature in the UnixWare gui.
I thought Redhat 6.2 would have that functionality in their gui (never
tried it in 5.2 ...did it all from the command line. ). People have
mentioned here that it is a security risk to do things as root in X . I
agree that yo should not login as root for the entire session, but just
like in the command line, suing in for a minute should be okay.
Why is it a security risk in the gui? Would it be difficult to program
in a popup box that would ask for the root password when required in the
gui? (One thing I am not is a programmer...know how to think like one,
but don't know the commands).
Any comments are welcomed.
Michael
Hammer wrote in message <8mun1u$shb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>In article <8mud95$osh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Thanks.
>>
>> By the way... I did mention that I could install the rpm's from a
>> command line in an xterm. Hmmm...reread my post and it might not
have
>> been clear, but that's what I meant in my 2nd paragraph.
>>
>> I don't mind using the command line....just figured that what I was
>> asking for should be included in X, or else it would seem kinda
>> pointless to have programs that install RPM's within X.
>
>
>I'm just a dumb rookie, but I do a 'setuid root gnorpm' to do it that
>way if I want to. That makes the X prog have the root permissions.
>
>Launching an X app as 'su' does not give that app root permissions.
>Never has, never will, as I understand it.
>
>If you're freaked out about setuid, as some are, try "Super"... it uses
>setuid in a safer manner.
>
>Anyway, turns out I've become used to using the command line rpm, so I
>don't even use gnorpm anymore. I do use setuid for other things
>though, it's convenient as hell, although a security risk if your not
>intelligent about it.
>
>-=hammer
>
>--
>MC
>"I've been trying to get as far away from myself as I can" - Bob Dylan
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
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From: "Chew GH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Opinions on twm and fvwm?
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 20:44:13 +0800
Hi,
I've been using twm for some time and I recently read two contradicting
views. I would expect twm, the no-frill window manager, to function faster
and use up less memory when compared with fvwm. A book on X windows agreed
with this view. However, the man pages of fvwm says that it is a rewrite
(correct me if I'm wrong) of twm and uses one-third the amount of memory twm
uses. Obviously added modules would slow down fvwm, but considering the
same bare basics configuration (menu that pops up when the background is
clicked + xterm window + login window), is the difference significant? I
haven't played around with fvwm enough to conclude. Would users of twm and
fvwm (also fvwm2) care to comment?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: How to start the ftp?
Date: 11 Aug 2000 12:27:12 GMT
Alan Po ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
[ I am using Mandrake Linux and I find that the ftp server is not
[ automatically startup. How can I run a ftp server on my Linux? Please give
[ me some idea.
[ Furhtermore, I found that Mandrake Linux request to run many servers by
[ manual such as Apache or Samba. How can I config the Linux so that these
[ servers will run when startup?
Try linuxconf
and it's in one of the menu options with the word "control", cant
remember the exact phrase but it lets you put a check mark on stuff you
want to start at bootup
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