Linux-Misc Digest #420, Volume #25 Sat, 12 Aug 00 01:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: Help Requested, Messing with inittab Cant get to correct init level (saan)
Re: STTY and ERASE (David Efflandt)
Re: Intel and Microsoft join Dell in Web threesome ("D. C. & M. V. Sessions")
Re: RTFM'ed DUX (Bob Martin)
disaster recovery questions. . . (Norvell Spearman)
Re: Help Requested, Messing with inittab Cant get to correct init level (saan)
Graphically Not Preforming (N/A)
Linux Please Detect My Modem. (N/A)
Distress Signal: The Linux Harddrive Takeover (N/A)
Partition Curse (i mean magic) Software (N/A)
Re: Graphically Not Preforming (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Re: Distress Signal: The Linux Harddrive Takeover (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Re: Partition Curse (i mean magic) Software ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Distress Signal: The Linux Harddrive Takeover ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux Please Detect My Modem. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: minicom - file lock (Paxx)
Re: Linux for Power Mac 7100/80 (MaryP)
Re: STTY and ERASE ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: saan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Help Requested, Messing with inittab Cant get to correct init level
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 18:47:42 -0700
Thank you very much for the replies.
However I am still stuck. I am able to get into single user mode and
mount the following: /, /proc /usr, /opt all with ext2 rw.
I could not find a vi, pico or ed as suggested by earlier poster. And I
dont know why. I cd to /usr and nothing is below it and I dont know
what happened to those files. Is there any tricks I can insert that
initdefault level without access to a full editor? just a thought.
BTW just to clarify things, I had a working X window logon and was
able to log on and do normal stuff. It is the part where I modified
the inittab that caused all the problems. Now only if i can get an
editor to modify that inittab :-)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: STTY and ERASE
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 01:59:01 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I work on both Solaris and Linux servers and I use VT100 as my terminal
>type to connect. Yet on linux stty erase defaults to ^? but on Solaris
>it defaults to ^H, what gives?
Being Unix I would think that the default for Solaris is ^? for erase, BUT
your .login or .profile might be setting erase to ^H for lowly Windows
users (my ISP did that). I fixed it to set erase ^? and TERM=vt100 if
TERM=linux and RedHat xterm worked fine with the ^H. Then I started using
Mandrake on my laptop and that uses ^? for erase in xterm (Konsole).
What is strange is that RedHat xterm automatically works with Mandrake and
vice versa even though erase is different on each. And either works
automatically with BSD. But Solaris does not seem to be able to
automatically recognize the erase character. This is easy to fix when
different TERM uses a specific erase. But the question is how to get
Solaris to recognized different erase for the same TERM (xterm) like Linux
and BSD do?
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David Efflandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
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From: "D. C. & M. V. Sessions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Intel and Microsoft join Dell in Web threesome
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 19:25:03 -0700
blowfish wrote:
>
> Intel and Microsoft join Dell in Web threesome
>
> Is the Dell dumping Linux now?
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/1/12509.html
OTOH, Linux servers were the only part of Dell's business
growing at double-digit rates according to the latest
earnings report.
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| e-mail address. Of course, there isn't REALLY a lumber cartel. |
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+----------- D. C. & M. V. Sessions <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ----------+
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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RTFM'ed DUX
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 02:27:28 +0000
"Skip Adams and Leslie Adams, M.H." wrote:
>
> First off, Thanks for all that responded to my post. UPDATE.. Well, first
> off Bill it looks like I have one com port and one lpt.. So I haven't gone
> into BIOS yet.. FWIW.. I get a "modem is busy" report when I try to get the
> modem to respond from KDE using the Kppp app. (luck of all luck.. I have no
> cu manual page(s)....... Bob..I have named the device ttyS0.. I have given
> the command to the modem of +++ATZ and just ATZ . I did go out on the net
> and get the longer init string but have not used it as of yet.
> I did discover the /proc/ dir and got a listing for ioports and interrupts.
> Someone did ask if I worked from the console or from X. Well, I start at the
> console then go to windoz and will work from both.. I would rather use a
> command line and rock and roll ..
> Okay, I am going to go back into Linux and look. I thought I saw that
> something was using IRQ 4.
> Question: is 03F8h (info from Win 95) the same as ioports regestry given by
> /proc/..
> without the "h". As a point of interest, the closest thing I have addressing
> 03Fx is 03F6-03F6 for ide0 (assuming that would be the HD)
>
> Still, the point here is to get on the net via Linux and this 33.6 ext.
>
> BTW.. Bill... When I run a 12 page report form SYS and Hardware Devices all
> I show is a COM 1 and an LPT 1... I have yanked all cards from the machine
> except for sound an video (which are hardwired on the board.
>
> Thanks for the help ya'll.
> Skip
I'd forget about kppp or any "GUI" thing until you get your hardware
strait, the command line is much easier to see what is really going on.
Check your BIOS first, you may have one of the ports disabled. Most of
the basic hardware such as com ports and printer ports will use defaults
for IRQ and I/O and can be set in the BIOS. "BUSY" is almost a sure
thiing for IRQ conflict.
That maybe the problem 03F8 is the default I/O for com1 ( which is what
ttyS0 would be using ) and if you don't see it I'd guess the kernel is
not able to find you serial port. Look in /var/log/messages , you should
see a statement about ttyS devices being found.
--
Bob Martin
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From: Norvell Spearman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: disaster recovery questions. . .
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 21:28:14 -0500
I'm running Linux Mandrake 7.1 and have an HP 8GB internal IDE tape
drive. I use the ide-scsi module for tape access (/dev/hdd <->
/dev/st0), which seems to work great.
My questions:
1) How do I make devices on a bootfloppy so ide-scsi will work from said
bootfloppy? Using DrakFloppy, I created a disk and told it to pre-load
ide-scsi, but the only devices on the floppy are /dev/hdb6 and /dev/fd0.
2) I'm shooting for a ``painless'' recovery plan, so what is the best
way to backup data (using only GNU tools that come with a common Linux
distribution)? I'm thinking something like `tar cvzpf /dev/st0
--exclude /proc /' after unmounting the cdrom, floppy, and windoze
partition.
3) Which programs do I need on the boot floppy? fdisk, mke2fs, mount,
umount, tar, gzip sound like good choices, but what else do I need?
4) Are these the steps to recovery I need to follow, or have I left out
something?
a) boot to floppy
b) create partitions with fdisk
c) recreate file systems with mke2fs
d) mount new file systems (e.g., /mnt/, /mnt/home, /mnt/tmp, etc.)
e) restore data from tape: cd /mnt; tar xzvpf /dev/st0
5) lilo and grub: If I want to use lilo, all I have to do next is run
`lilo /mnt/etc/lilo.conf' right? If I'm using grub, though, how do I
update the mbr?
Thanks for any help with these questions. If all this is in a HOWTO
which I missed, I apologize for the superfluous posting. . .
---Norvell Spearman
===========================
``Trouble is my business.''
---Philip Marlowe
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From: saan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Help Requested, Messing with inittab Cant get to correct init level
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 20:08:34 -0700
Here is what I have to do per the recommendations:
1. I rebooted and from the prompt LiLo boot: myconfig lilo init=/bin/sh
2. This got me to boot single user
3. issued #mount to check whats mounted
4. #mount / -o remount,rw
5. #mount /dev/hda3 /usr earlier i did not do this so i was not
able to
see the editors
6. edit the /etc/inittab
7. wait for good minute to flush the buffer to hardisk
8. reboot and it reboot to a nice xdm login prompt.
Thanks to all that assisted.
cid
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From: N/A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Graphically Not Preforming
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 03:29:51 GMT
i have an intel(r) graphics chipset and i am running Mandrake Linux 7.0
because linux cannot detect my card i have to use a 'Generic VGA
Compatible' which naturally isnt giving mehalf of what i can run graphic
wise. when going in to my '/etc/X11/XF86Config' file i can edit things to
fit my graphics card. however when rebooting i have errors and i can no
longer get into my x system or desktop which causes problems for me
because i am a newbie kinda and i dont know any commands to run from # to
go into anything. so how make linux recognize the full power of my
graphics. and i dont have the access of windows(another story)
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From: N/A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux Please Detect My Modem.
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 03:29:51 GMT
i have a rockwell modem and when following the instructions for it to
detect my modem in terminal mode nothing really happens, i use the command
minicom and it says command not found or 'using default' yet nothing
happens. when trying to connect to the internet i either get the
responce 'modem is locked' or 'modem not detected' what is the problem?
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From: N/A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Distress Signal: The Linux Harddrive Takeover
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 03:29:52 GMT
while installing linux i partitioned things and completly delelted all
access to windows 98 to the point where a backup CD cant even help.
because i have Mandrake Linux 7.0. and used the partition magic cd that
came with it while starting my computer i am given only the options to
boot a floppy (i dont have a backup windows floppy either) or run linux.
even with windows 98 installed in my computer i was not ablke to use it
because only floppy and linux are given as options. what can i do within
linux to either give me the access to boot into windows upon startup or un-
install linux or ANYTHING that will allow me to run windows 98 again?
please help.
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From: N/A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Partition Curse (i mean magic) Software
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 03:29:52 GMT
i need to make my computer stop giveing me only the option of booting
linux or my floppy cuz this prevents me from going into windows 98 even
with windows on my system. linux practically owns my hard drive. i no
longer have windoze 98 on my system but even after installing it i cannot
go into it. how can i delete my entire linux or partition from the
software, or any way at that matter. thanks.
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Subject: Re: Graphically Not Preforming
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 03:33:49 GMT
N/A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> i have an intel(r) graphics chipset and i am running Mandrake Linux 7.0
> because linux cannot detect my card i have to use a 'Generic VGA
> Compatible' which naturally isnt giving mehalf of what i can run graphic
> wise. when going in to my '/etc/X11/XF86Config' file i can edit things to
> fit my graphics card. however when rebooting i have errors and i can no
> longer get into my x system or desktop which causes problems for me
> because i am a newbie kinda and i dont know any commands to run from # to
> go into anything. so how make linux recognize the full power of my
> graphics. and i dont have the access of windows(another story)
>
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If that is a i810 chipset, then the following Red Hat errata maybe of
some assistance: https://www.redhat.com/support/docs/tips/i810.html
--
Prasanth Kumar
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Subject: Re: Distress Signal: The Linux Harddrive Takeover
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 03:37:33 GMT
N/A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> while installing linux i partitioned things and completly delelted all
> access to windows 98 to the point where a backup CD cant even help.
> because i have Mandrake Linux 7.0. and used the partition magic cd that
> came with it while starting my computer i am given only the options to
> boot a floppy (i dont have a backup windows floppy either) or run linux.
> even with windows 98 installed in my computer i was not ablke to use it
> because only floppy and linux are given as options. what can i do within
> linux to either give me the access to boot into windows upon startup or un-
> install linux or ANYTHING that will allow me to run windows 98 again?
> please help.
>
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Are you sure you actually deleted the Windows partition? At the boot
prompt, press tab and see if there is another boot option. You can
also get rid of Linux (atleast the bootloader) by typing 'lilo -u' as
root at the console. Then restart and it will no longer boot Linux.
--
Prasanth Kumar
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Partition Curse (i mean magic) Software
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 12 Aug 2000 04:01:35 GMT
to boot to windows, just go into your linux config and set lilo to boot to windows,
then if you want, you can
also set the default as windows...
no need to start all over
Philo
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, N/A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>i need to make my computer stop giveing me only the option of booting
>linux or my floppy cuz this prevents me from going into windows 98 even
>with windows on my system. linux practically owns my hard drive. i no
>longer have windoze 98 on my system but even after installing it i cannot
>go into it. how can i delete my entire linux or partition from the
>software, or any way at that matter. thanks.
>
>--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Distress Signal: The Linux Harddrive Takeover
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 12 Aug 2000 04:03:38 GMT
in your linux config, you can not only set lilo to give you windows as an option, you
can
also set it to boot windows as default
Philo
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, N/A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>while installing linux i partitioned things and completly delelted all
>access to windows 98 to the point where a backup CD cant even help.
>because i have Mandrake Linux 7.0. and used the partition magic cd that
>came with it while starting my computer i am given only the options to
>boot a floppy (i dont have a backup windows floppy either) or run linux.
>even with windows 98 installed in my computer i was not ablke to use it
>because only floppy and linux are given as options. what can i do within
>linux to either give me the access to boot into windows upon startup or un-
>install linux or ANYTHING that will allow me to run windows 98 again?
>please help.
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux Please Detect My Modem.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 12 Aug 2000 04:04:50 GMT
did you first go into the control panel and assign a com port to your modem?
Philo
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, N/A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>i have a rockwell modem and when following the instructions for it to
>detect my modem in terminal mode nothing really happens, i use the command
>minicom and it says command not found or 'using default' yet nothing
>happens. when trying to connect to the internet i either get the
>responce 'modem is locked' or 'modem not detected' what is the problem?
>
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From: Paxx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: minicom - file lock
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 04:11:23 GMT
In article <8mt3fu$ms2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Paxx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I recently upgraded(?) from RH 5.2 to RH 6.0. I've got most things
> sorted out, but I don't seem to be able to get minicom to work as a
> normal user. The minicom.users file seems to still be intact. I'm sure
> I'm missing something simple here, but can't think what it is. Someone
> want to jog my memory on what I need to tweak to make minicom run for
> someone other than root. Minicom report that it can't create a file
lock
> when I try to run it as non-root user.
Okay...I worked this out. Ran minicom as root, and saw path to Lock file
was /var/lock. So...as with pine and making /var/spool/mail/ chmod 1777,
I did the same thing to /var/lock, and lo and behold...minicom will now
run for me as non-root user. I had already made /dev/ttyS1 available to
non-root, so I knew that wasn't it.
Anyway, I hope this can help someone else out.
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MaryP)
Subject: Re: Linux for Power Mac 7100/80
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 23:42:10 -0600
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Can Linux be installed on a PowerMac 7100/80 with only 40,000K of
> memory?
In article <8n1j98$23h$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andre-John Mas
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> replied:
> A quick hunt shows that the only version of Linux supporting or
> running on this Mac is MkLinux.
See www.debian.com for info on their Mac ports.
Here is part of what they say about the Motorola/IBM PowerPC Linux:
> This port runs stable since Feb. 1998 on many of the Apple Macintosh
> 'PowerMac', CHRP and PReP computers.
> The boot-floppies are 'in work'. Debian/PowerPC will be official released
> with Debian 2.2 ('potato').
Mary P.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: STTY and ERASE
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 04:42:56 GMT
It could be that Solaris uses ^? (that would be good since then it would
be consistent). However none of my configs set it. I don't source any
files and the only one called is my .tcshrc. TCSH understands either
erase, but when you call something like rm -i filename, it asks for
confirmation, and that only accepts whatever is set by stty. This
version of solaris is just a standard install, so noone changed the
features. I also work on an Irix machine, but I don't know if that
setting was changed there (I am not an admin there). Both Solaris and
Irix I work with have ^H as the default erase character. Both linux and
freebsd have ^?. BSD's do have a way of setting this for the terminal so
that all users are effected, but I didn't completely understand it
(going to have to test it), linux as I get it will have to use stty in
init files (.tcshrc in my case).
Is there a way to call stty on bootup so that all connections use ^H by
default or do I always have to put it into startup files (like .bashrc
or .tcshrc).
I realize that the developers don't see a problem there, but I still
think Backspace should send Backspace.
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