Linux-Misc Digest #625, Volume #25 Wed, 30 Aug 00 18:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: can't reboot, init high CPU (Andreas Kahari)
Re: Newbie, Help, CLI Commands, (Andreas Kahari)
Re: CAUTION: I am under attack from an incompetent hacker probably in germany
(Black Dragon)
ncurses, /usr/share/terminfo v /usr/lib/terminfo (Andy Key)
dump win98 partition ("Volker Kalms")
Re: Netscape and video/x-ms-asf (Stewart Honsberger)
Re: Immediate*** ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Mouse pen (Gilles Kirouac)
Re: Immediate*** (Kevin E Cosgrove)
Re: Solaris x86 won't boot from LILO (Timothy J. Lee)
Re: Netscape Sucks, I need another option. (Paul Oliver)
Re: No kppp in Mandrake7.1?? (Andrew Purugganan)
associations ("Darren Welson")
LILO..I forgot how to... ("Darren Welson")
Re: LILO..I forgot how to... (Troutman)
Re: File colours ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Linux spontaneously changes time (M. Buchenrieder)
Re: tranfering boot/root disk to higher capacity format ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Netscape Sucks, I need another option. ("Yura")
Re: SAMBA problem .. (Jean-David Beyer-valinux)
Re: Modem connections - how to automatically check if disconnected? (Jean-David
Beyer-valinux)
Re: setuid ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Installing Mandrake over Caldera (Martin Racette)
Re: Newbie, Help, CLI Commands, ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
Re: sendmail problem ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
Re: what to choose ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
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Subject: Re: can't reboot, init high CPU
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Kahari)
Date: 30 Aug 2000 20:40:39 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jeremy C. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I had several (over fifty) defunct processes who don't have any parents
>(so I assume init). init was using up lots of CPU time.
>
>None of the defunct processes could be killed (-9). (Maybe this is
>normal.) Some of the defunct processes included: syslogd, kswapd, netscape
>(and others).
Don't ever kill any root or daemon processes that you did not
explicitly start. Of the three processes that you listed above, only
the netscape process is not such a process (the other ones are very
important system processes).
>
>And reboot, shutdown, halt, "kill -1 1", "kill 1", "kill -9 1" did not
>work. Note that the system was still usable. (Only a physical power switch
>reset worked to reboot though).
Eh, the 'init' process (always pid 1) happens to be the running
kernel.
>
>This problem has occured a few times.
>
It's probably due to a crashed netscape. Be sure to shut down netscape
properly before logging out.
>Linux version 2.2.13 (root@antelope) (gcc versi on 2.95.2 20000313 (Debian
>GNU/Linux)) #1 Sat May 27 16:22:13 PDT 2000
>
>I am not sure what init I am running. (It is from Debian Potato --
>included in sysvinit 2.78-4.)
>
>My log files don't seem to show anything about this.
>
>Does anyone have any ideas? Or know what is going on?
>
>(Now I see that my log file has
> Aug 7 13:52:00 antelope kernel: es1371: dma timed out??
>hundreds of times.)
>
I don't know anything about that sound card (apart from that it is a
sound card related thing).
/A
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Subject: Re: Newbie, Help, CLI Commands,
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Kahari)
Date: 30 Aug 2000 20:43:03 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Andrew N. McGuire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Eric Potter quoth:
[cut]
>~~ rm -rf directory
>
>Why the '-f'? The man page for rm states:
>
[cut]
Because most sane people have 'rm' aliased to 'rm -i' and the '-f'
optino takes away the effect of '-i'. This is nice when deleting huge
folders.
Another way to temporarly "unalias" a command is to type e.g. '\rm'.
/A
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Black Dragon)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: CAUTION: I am under attack from an incompetent hacker probably in germany
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 18:42:59 GMT
On Wed, 30 Aug 2000 15:18:46 GMT in comp.os.linux,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> `Person 7' said:
>On Mon, 5 Jun 2000 07:36:00 -0230, in comp.os.linux.admin,
> ("FellowTraveller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>
>>am using one of the NT PC's here to post this, as I find Outlook Express
>>best for news reading... and I do find that Netscape has not been as good
>
>Outlook express is crap at newsreading.
>You want free-agent
Pah ! Lookout Express, Nutscrape Messenger, and Forte Agent are all *SLRN*
'wannabes. :-)
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"Resist militant `normality' -- A mind is a terrible thing to erase."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andy Key)
Subject: ncurses, /usr/share/terminfo v /usr/lib/terminfo
Date: 30 Aug 100 18:47:31 GMT
It appears the various Linux distributions can seem to agree where to put
the terminfo directory. This makes programs compiled against ncurses
on one system not work 'out of the box' when moved to other systems, due to
them looking in the wrong place. I know at least one version of ncurses can
be compiled to look along multiple paths for the default terminfo directory.
So, a plea: Please can ncurses package authors make the default behaviour
under Linux to be to look in *both* /usr/share/terminfo and /usr/lib/terminfo.
(Yes, I know about $TERMINFO etc., but thats another unnecessary complication
to have to explain to receipients of program binarys).
Cheers
{{{ Andy Key
http://www.interalpha.net/customer/nyangau/
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From: "Volker Kalms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: dump win98 partition
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 15:17:53 +0200
Hi all,
since I have linux 6.2 and also win98 on my PC I would like to use linux
to do a full backup of the win98 partition.
How is it possible to do this and how can I restore the backup after
win98 is totaly messed up and the computer cries for a new installation ???
Since I am not working with linux for a long time it would be greate if
anyone
could give me a hint !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Many thanks in advance.
Volker
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Subject: Re: Netscape and video/x-ms-asf
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 19:12:09 GMT
On Wed, 30 Aug 2000 12:44:39 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>A beta version of Microsoft Media Player for Linux
>is available from Microsoft. I downloaded it and it
>plays video and I get sound - seems to work fine.
>My only problem is that I am not able to call it from
>Netscape. Cliff
Whereabouts on their site? I searched for "Media Player: and found a download
page where I could D/L for the various Microsoft platforms, but no mention
of Linux. When I searched for "linux", their page came up blank. ({chuckle}
Linux really is breaking Microsoft ;> ).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Immediate***
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 19:13:06 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I made an entry into /etc/rc.d/rc.local which makes the sytem hang in
> between bootup. I want to delete the entry, but I cannot since I
> cannot get into the system. I need immeediate help. This is a DHCP
> server and DNS server. I went into "linux rescue" mode but I cannot
> access the file there.
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
at lilo prompt just go in single user
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gilles Kirouac)
Crossposted-To: comp.graphics.misc
Subject: Mouse pen
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 19:41:34 GMT
I am looking for a Mouse Pen to do very rough sketches
in front of an audience, not for precise graphics drawings.
Many years ago, I saw ads for mouses in the form of a pen.
I found one today at
http://musicgraveyard.com/felcormouspe.html
It is a Fellowes Serial Mouse Pen with the following
specs:
Ifrared Technology allows total freedom of Movement
Natural Pen Shape
Left or right handed operation
cordless operation
Two button Mouse Pen
Microsoft, PC'95 plug and play compatible
Works on almost any surface and angle
Operates within 40 degrees and up to 1o feet away from reciever
Would you have any experience with such?
P.S. Would you copy your reply at my address, please.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin E Cosgrove)
Subject: Re: Immediate***
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 19:43:14 GMT
What [EMAIL PROTECTED] means is "linux single" at the LILO prompt.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I made an entry into /etc/rc.d/rc.local which makes the sytem hang in
> > between bootup. I want to delete the entry, but I cannot since I
> > cannot get into the system. I need immeediate help. This is a DHCP
> > server and DNS server. I went into "linux rescue" mode but I cannot
> > access the file there.
> >
> at lilo prompt just go in single user
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy J. Lee)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.solaris,alt.solaris.x86
Subject: Re: Solaris x86 won't boot from LILO
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (this is a valid address for a limited time)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 19:47:22 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Philip Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Tue, 29 Aug 2000 20:52:05 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>After installing Solaris 8 x86, I reconfigured LILO on Linux with
>>
>>other = /dev/hdb
>> label = solaris
>
>err.. isn't taht supposed to be
>
>other = /dev/hdb1
>
>or something like that?
After a bunch of fiddling, the following works:
other = /dev/hdb1
label = solaris
loader = /boot/chain.b
unsafe
The "loader = /boot/chain.b" is needed when booting from something
other than the first disk, and unsafe is needed to keep lilo from
complaining about the partition table.
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Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 14:54:47 -0500
From: Paul Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape Sucks, I need another option.
Ben Ritchie wrote:
>
> Didn't he say he wanted something that _wasn't_ slow and buggy and _can_
> display pages correctly? :-)
I know you're being sarcastic, but Mozilla's getting pretty stable, very
fast (faster than Netscape is anyway; especially at rendering pages with
many nested <TABLE>'s and onResize), and displays pages correctly because
it is the most standards-compliant browser yet. So, I believe Mozilla
would be a great choice for this guy. Or Opera
(http://www.opera.com/linux/).
Paul
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Re: No kppp in Mandrake7.1??
Date: 30 Aug 2000 20:02:43 GMT
John Hasler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
[ Andrew Purugganan writes:
[ > Can anybody help me out, did I miss something?
[ Yes. You selected 'server'. Why would you expect that to include
[ workstation stuff? I'm surprised that they included X at all.
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From: "Darren Welson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: associations
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 13:06:15 -0700
How do I associate an application with a particular file type, like a
certain editor with text files? I use rh62 and am using gnome in X.
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From: "Darren Welson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: LILO..I forgot how to...
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 13:02:34 -0700
I installed RH6.2 and made a boot floppy at install, as well as wrote lilo
to the MBR. When I boot up, I get "LI" and must use the boot floppy to
start. I think I had a hardware conflict causing this "LI" which has been
fixed.
I can't remember...What do I do to repair LILO so I can now boot from the
MBR like I am suppposed to? Do I need to change the /etc/lilo.conf file, or
at least make sure it points to the /dev/hda (MBR), or what must I do?
I have rerun LILO on several occasions, but still must boot from the floppy.
Darren
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Troutman)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: LILO..I forgot how to...
Date: 30 Aug 2000 16:44:08 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darren Welson) graced us with the following:
>I installed RH6.2 and made a boot floppy at install, as well as wrote
>lilo to the MBR. When I boot up, I get "LI" and must use the boot
>floppy to start. I think I had a hardware conflict causing this "LI"
>which has been fixed.
>
>I can't remember...What do I do to repair LILO so I can now boot from
>the MBR like I am suppposed to? Do I need to change the /etc/lilo.conf
>file, or at least make sure it points to the /dev/hda (MBR), or what
>must I do?
>
>I have rerun LILO on several occasions, but still must boot from the
>floppy.
>
>Darren
You must have a /boot partition below the 1024 cylinder. If it is a large
drive without that partition - it will probably not work correctly. I have
heard the new LILO fixes this bug. You could upgrade and re-run lilo
again.
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http://www.troutman.org
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: File colours
Date: 30 Aug 2000 20:56:36 GMT
Dux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Can someone please tell me what the file colours mean. What is green* I
Green means that the file is ecologically sound.
: think I know the others.
Seriously, have you looked in your .dir_colurs file? YOU'RE the one
that defines the colours, if you mean the colours that ls shows.
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: Linux spontaneously changes time
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 19:49:27 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Wong) writes:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, M. Buchenrieder wrote:
>>
[...]
>>It is. Your HW clock is most likely set to localtime - which is
>>not the default setting assumed by UN*X. Set it to GMT, then the
>>switch will not happen anymore.
>Thanks. Setting my HW clock to GMT seems to fix the problem. Still,
>Red Hat explicitly allows me to leave the HW clock at
>localtime.
So does SuSE. It's depending on your localtime settings ( this
would be /etc/localtime in SuSE) which should be a link to the
zoneinfo file containing the correct timezone definition,
usually somewhere in /usr/share/zoneinfo .
>Obviously, this is supposed to be a viable option, but it
>is not working right.
[...]
IIRC, it's possible that some programs do not use the information
in /etc/localtime but instead do query the BIOS clock via the "date"
command - which is why I do prefer using GMT/UTC on the BIOS clock
(not to mention the fact that this allows for automatic DST
correction, in case the zoneinfo file provides the needed information).
Michael
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: tranfering boot/root disk to higher capacity format
Date: 30 Aug 2000 21:12:39 GMT
It's been a while since I made a ramdisk, but ...
mrauscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: #copy all files from the original boot disk to the HD
: cp -r /mnt/floppy/* /tmp/olddisk
: #format the new disk
: fdformat /dev/fd0u1680
: #copy the kernel to the disk
: dd if=/tmp/olddisk/vmlinuz of=/dev/fd0 bs=1k
: #set the root device
: rdev /dev/fd0 /dev/fd0
: #set root R/W
: rdev -R /dev/fd0 0
: #set the RAM disk word
: rdev -r /dev/fd0 16819
: #copy the root fs
: dd if=/rmp/olddisk/initrd.gz of=/dev/fd0 bs=1k seek=435
What you have looks vaguely plausible, except that you don't seem to me
to have told the kernel where to look properly. The magic you are using
is not something I can make sense of, but it may be so. See
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/initrd.txt and
<ftp://elserv.ffm.fgan.de/pub/linux/loadlin-1.6/initrd-example.tgz>
for what really to do.
You want the kernel to boot the ramdisk image. AFAIR I always did that
by just putting a kernel on one diskette (or on the hard disk) and
compiling it with initrd inside and ramdisk stuff. I used lilo to
boot the kernel and I think I put the usual
mini fs on the diskette, with a /etc /boot and /dev, and in the
lilo.conf put initrd=/boot/initrd.gz. I tend to use e2fs for the FS,
but you can use anything that the kernel supports.
You might have to use root=/dev/ram to make the ramdisk your root fs.
Where did you get hold of the incantations above? I don't see anything
like them in the bootdisk howto.
Peter
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From: "Yura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape Sucks, I need another option.
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 21:16:40 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Paul Oliver
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ben Ritchie wrote:
>>
>> Didn't he say he wanted something that _wasn't_ slow and buggy and
>> _can_ display pages correctly? :-)
>
> I know you're being sarcastic, but Mozilla's getting pretty stable, very
> fast (faster than Netscape is anyway;
Are you for real?
It can not even display menus quickly, I'm talking about menus right below the title
of the
window.
They are so slow, they popdown so slow like if my Pentium2-333 would be a nasty
486/33mhz.
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From: Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SAMBA problem ..
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 17:13:06 -0400
Simon wrote:
> OpenLinux 2.4 Desktop....
>
> Having setup Samba I can connect to the 'public' and 'tmp' shares -
> read/write ok.
>
> Can't connect to users home directory, I can see it !!!
>
> Each user has a Public folder created with ownership assigned to the
> use.....
>
> 'Incorrect password or unknown user name for username:'
>
> Workstation is NT 4, encrypted password set to yes...
> Username and password for samba are set.
>
> Any idea why I can't connect
As I recall, when I set up SAMBA on this machine so my other Windows 95
machine could share printer on this machine, and also a few files, I
had problems because Windows always mapped the alphabetic characters I
typed in on the Windows box to lower case. For good security, it is
usually recommended that your password include a mix of upper and lower
case characters, digits, and special characters. I had to put my
password on the Samba machine in lower case so that it would match up
with what Windows sends.
I suppose that could be your problem, too.
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^^-^^ 4:46pm up 22 days, 15 min, 3 users, load average: 2.48, 2.24, 1.74
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From: Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Modem connections - how to automatically check if disconnected?
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 17:20:55 -0400
"David .." wrote:
> Martin Mallett wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > I am the proud owner of a humble 56k modem and live in a backwards country
> > where my ISP disconnects you every 2 hours. Question is, is there a way to
> > check to see if I'm online? At the moment, I crontab every 15 mins and try
> > to force a connection. This is OK and works but hardly subtle - can I only
> > force a connection when there isn't one already established?
> >
> > Also, how can I get my system to recognise a busy tone and redial as
> > necessary?
> >
> > I use redhat 6.1 and dial up using eznet at the moment. I have no worries
> > about changing dialup software (well...within reason :). Any ideas and/or
> > pointers in the right direction?
>
> If you want it to redial when disconnected then you can edit
> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ppp0 and use these settings.
>
> PERSIST=yes
> HOLDOFF=60
>
> Add them just below the "ONBOOT=" line. This will automatically redial
> if disconnected allowing 60 seconds between the disconnect and redial.
> Depending on the ISP you may be able to shorten the delay time.
>
> Hope this helps
This suggestion (above) is better than what yo seem to have in mind.
If you do want to test manually, an unreliable way is to examine
/var/lock/LCK..modem. If that file exists, you are presumably connected, and if
it is not there, you are not connected. I find that the lock file frequently
remains after the connection is taken down, at least when using the cute little
applet "modem lights" in Red Hat Linux.
A better test is to run something like this (from a shell script run by cron for
other purposes than yours):
# Check if modem is connected. If so, just quit and let things happen.
if (grep ppp0 /proc/net/route >> OUT_FILE_N 2>&1) ; then
echo date "Modem connection is up." >> OUT_FILE_N
exit 0
fi
This assumes your modem connection is ppp0; if not, adjust as required. This
technique is a bit more cumbersome than checking /var/lock/LCK..modem, but more
reliable.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: setuid
Date: 30 Aug 2000 21:23:01 GMT
Rasputin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <Peter T. Breuer> wrote:
:>Rasputin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>: Don't think that's right. Although suid scripts are supposedly a bad idea
:>: (as you can read the script to find badly constructed code that would
:>: allow you to run arbirary code), I don't think they're diallowed by the system.
:>
:>Then you would be completely wrong. See the Linux FAQ.
: Well you live and learn. How about a link to the FAQ?
Posted here every week or so. Comes in about 10 parts. Of course, you
can always go over to comp.answers and look at it there.
Peter
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From: Martin Racette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing Mandrake over Caldera
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 21:33:53 GMT
Ok guys,
I checked, and the "/home" directory is on another partition, but when
I'll install Mandrake, should I tell it to mount that partition as
"/home" or should I wait after the install is completed ?
BTW. I also put "/tmp" on it's own partition, should I mount it as
well or wait ?
Thank you in advance
Merci a l'avance
Martin
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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie, Help, CLI Commands,
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 16:46:36 -0500
On 30 Aug 2000, Andreas Kahari quoth:
~~ Date: 30 Aug 2000 20:43:03 +0100
~~ From: Andreas Kahari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
~~ Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc
~~ Subject: Re: Newbie, Help, CLI Commands,
~~
~~ In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
~~ Andrew N. McGuire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
~~ >On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Eric Potter quoth:
~~ [cut]
~~ >~~ rm -rf directory
~~ >
~~ >Why the '-f'? The man page for rm states:
~~ >
~~ [cut]
~~
~~ Because most sane people have 'rm' aliased to 'rm -i' and the '-f'
~~ optino takes away the effect of '-i'. This is nice when deleting huge
~~ folders.
True, but what I mean is that the first couple of times a newcomer
to UNIX/Linux has to do that, he should be weary. Unlike Windows,
there is no real way of undeleting files. Since the OP did ask
about deltree, I assumed he was coming from a DOS/Windows environment,
and may be accustomed to undeleting files. Given that, that is
why I questioned the use of '-f'. The first couple of times he
should not overwrite the '-i', as he could potentially destroy data
he did not mean to. I see nothing wrong with '-f', or pointing it
out, but for a newbie I think there should be an accompanying
disclaimer (IMO).
~~ Another way to temporarly "unalias" a command is to type e.g. '\rm'.
Yep, use it all the time (well maybe 10% actually).
Best Wishes,
anm
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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: sendmail problem
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 16:52:49 -0500
On Wed, 30 Aug 2000, Hello World quoth:
~~ Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 14:27:12 +0800
~~ From: Hello World <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
~~ Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc
~~ Subject: sendmail problem
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~~ how can i configure sendmail such that when a mail is sent to peter, a copy
~~ will be saved to peter's local mailbox and then forward another copy to
~~ another email address (say hotmail)?
Set up an alias in '/etc/mail/aliases'. The syntax is fairly simple
and there should already be entries in it (postmaster), to copy.
You can also specify a file as an alias, so mail is sent straight to
a file (that can be handy for catching spammers).
anm
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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: what to choose
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 17:04:23 -0500
On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Andr=E9 Solheim quoth:
~~ Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 12:49:15 +0200
~~ From: Andr=E9 Solheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
~~ Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc
~~ Subject: what to choose
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~~ In the near future i plan to make the change from Microsoft OS to Linux,=
but
~~ I am not quite sure what it is the best Linux distribution out there.
~~ I consider myself as very skilled when it comes to computers and compute=
r
~~ systems. (Currently holds the MCSE certification)
~~ I have recently looked at both Caldera Open Linux and Redhat 5.2, Redhat=
6.1
~~ and Redhat 6.2.
~~ I plan to use the system with "all the bells and whistles on", mail, web
~~ news, samba etc.
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~~ I also require a system that is highly configurable and one that I can u=
se
~~ to test out security features such as encryption, firewall etc.
This question has just been asked recently, and the answer remains the
same:
"There is no best Linux distribution!"
That being said, and despite the MCSE, any form of *nix can present a steep
learing curve at first. Almost every distribution comes with the "bells
and whistles" that you listed. I will say that RH and Caldera are consider=
ably
more newbie friendly, however I would not qualify either as the "best".
Ultimately, the best distribution is the one that YOU like best, since
they can all be downloaded for little or no cost, play around, make your
own informed decision. Each dist has there strengths and weaknesses, I
would spend days listing all those, so the best thing I can do is tell
you to read the Deja archives, use Google, and visit some of the dists'
web sites.
[ aside: Does this qualify as an FAQ yet? :-) ]
Best Regards,
anm
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