Linux-Misc Digest #422, Volume #25 Sat, 12 Aug 00 12:13:01 EDT
Contents:
Re: Killing bugging programs... ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Email through a web browser (Bert de Vries)
problems starting mysql ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux on AMD (J Bland)
Re: how to get a free linux conference ticket (Andrew Purugganan)
Problem: do_try_to_free_pages failed (Mark Hymers)
Re: fwd: SuSE Linux 7.0 released ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: What would cause disk thrashing while idle? (Andrew Purugganan)
CVS help needed ("Alex Ryltsov")
Looking for a utility! (will dresslar)
Re: please help: mount failed (Neil Zanella)
Re: Looking for a utility! (John Reiser)
Re: LILO malfunction (Robert Heller)
Re: Linux Please Detect My Modem. (Robert Heller)
problem with creating mailbox. ("sammi")
Re: Changing how netscape/box is ID'd (Praedor Tempus)
Re: HELLLLP cannot reboot !! (Rick Lim)
parport / kernel message problem (Gary Krupa)
Re: How to copy a diskette? (Robert Jones)
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Killing bugging programs...
Date: 12 Aug 2000 11:25:45 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Simon Lemieux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
:> I would like to know what to kill so my computer will almost never use any CPU
:> or HD when Idle... I know this is not recomended, but it's temporary, I will
:> then reboot and everything would be back...
: Kill crond. That'll stop all scheduled tasks until it's restarted.
: (You shouldn't need to reboot. Just restart the daemon afterwards)
What about renicing cron, or using nice inside the crontab.
afair there is a version of cron for laptops that will test first to
see if anyone is arround before launching stuff. Otherwise the best one
can do is use a line like "if load_avg > 0.5 then reschedule".
Peter
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From: Bert de Vries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Email through a web browser
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 11:31:25 GMT
Hi,
You might find your solution at www.ebizmail.com
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there a way to run a Linux box as an email server, and have
remote
> users use their Windows based web browser to access their email? The
email
> needs to live on the server, and the users can view and/or delete
their
> messages remotely. The key here is using just a Windows based web
browser,
> and not a typical mail client. And though I love PINE, in my
particular
> case, it will not work. Thanks.
>
> Scott
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: problems starting mysql
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 12:30:11 GMT
I have been trying to do this project that is in a linux
magazine and I am having great trouble. I cann't get PHP to configure
because it cannt find the headers. I have pointed it to
/usr/include/mysql where I see files with the .h (headers). What is
it looking for.
Second question.
I have uninstalled and reinstalled it many times. The problems are
1) when booting I now get a message that says "Starting mysqld daemon
with databases from /var/lib/mysql and that used to not be there.
2) I cannt "log in" to mysql because I am not authorized to even
though I am root.
Please help I want to do this project very much and I am having great
difficulty
Thank you for you help
John Miller
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J Bland)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux on AMD
Date: 12 Aug 2000 12:32:01 GMT
>> The kernel is optimised for it, everything else isn't.
>>
>> Frinky
>Oh Yeah!
>
>Are you using SuSE?
Yes. from p100s to Athlon700s to G3s. They mostly run the default packages.
Which are compiled for 386s and ppc.
>I am. I've been using SuSE since 5.x
>
>I'm posting from a SuSE 6.4 2.2.14 kernel, i586 with 3DNow activated.
>;-)
Well done. That extra math performance makes your mostly integer using
kernel so much faster. This is from a i586 2.2.16 kernel, with only things
in it I need. It makes little difference to anything.
2.2.14 has a serious security bug in it. This is why SuSE has released and
update to the k_default.rpm package with a 2.2.16 kernel. Keep up with the
security advisories.
>You CAN choose the kernel option from YaST2 during installation.
I know.
>Only sucky-crappy distros like RH, Debian, etc. , and so on you need to
>recompile for anything other than the generic stuff.
>
>Even soundcard, SMP, pentium, ata/dma a bunch of scsi, GForce video, etc
>runs right out of the box without any messing around.
RH, Debian etc do sound, SMP, pentium and other optimised kernels. The
entirety of Mandrake is pentium optimised. Stuff that's in the SuSE kernel is
available as patches elsewhere, and they are being used by other
distributers.
Yes. This is all the kernel. SuSE 6.4 'out the box' has optimised kernels.
Which makes a difference. But not much. *Everything else on the CDs* is not
optimised. They are i386 rpms. They will not have pentium, or mmx, or 3dnow
optimisations in them.
If you recompile from source then they will, but that's not SuSE 6.4, is it.
AT least it sort of is but then you're having to faff about in ways you're
detracting other distributions for. If you want that extra speed get
Mandrake, it's *all* optimised.
Frinky
--
John Bland MPhys(Hons) GradInstP Webmaster and Sys Admin.
http://ringtail.cmp.liv.ac.uk/ Condensed Matter Group
Email: j.bland at liv.ac.uk Liverpool University
"And it can suck a monkey through 30ft of garden hose!!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Re: how to get a free linux conference ticket
Date: 12 Aug 2000 12:45:10 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[ How can I get free admission to the linux conference next week in San Jose?
[ Thanks in advance.
Wear a "PRESS" badge ? ;-)
--
jazz
Registered linux user no. 164098 +--+--+--+ Litestep user no. 386
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Hymers)
Subject: Problem: do_try_to_free_pages failed
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 12:58:23 GMT
I have a 486 with 20Mb RAM using RH5.2 with kernel 2.2.16 acting as an
samba file server and IP masquerading server on my dial-up internet
connection. For the last two days, I have got error messages after
being on line for about 10-15 minutes saying:
VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for xxxxx
Where xxxxx could be kswapd, syslogd, httpd, nmbd, smbd etc...
Does anybody know what is going on?
Thanks
Mark
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: fwd: SuSE Linux 7.0 released
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.suse,comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 12:22:31 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] did eloquently scribble:
>> Beside. People can still install the games if they wanted to. Just
>> don't install them by default as dependency.
> They're now installed by default anyway, unless you choose the "Install
> everything" option.
s/now/not/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Re: What would cause disk thrashing while idle?
Date: 12 Aug 2000 13:06:01 GMT
Tony Lawrence ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
[ Andrew Purugganan wrote:
[ >
[ > Kousik Nandy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
[ > [ On 11 Aug 2000 02:13:25 GMT, Andrew Purugganan wrote:
[ >
[ Have 'em look to see if you are logged in and reschedule
[ themselves (with at) if you are?
being a home PC+casual linux user I am always logged on in 4 VCs (one
gui, 1 root, etc)
Is there a way (thru scripting) to determne if the box is REALLY busy
with someone at the controls?
--
jazz
Registered linux user no. 164098 +--+--+--+ Litestep user no. 386
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
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From: "Alex Ryltsov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CVS help needed
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 17:13:00 +0400
Hi,
We installed the cvs on our Linux server and it works ok there.
But when i installed the WinCVS client on the windows plaform i couldn't
connect to the Linux server in order to access the cvs.
I set the following parameters:
CVSROOT:
:pserver:alex@datanaut1:/usr/local/cvsroot
Authentification:
"passwd" file on the cvs server
So when i set them up the client said:
NEW CVSROOT: :pserver:alex@datanaut1:/usr/local/cvsroot (password
authentication)
Saved settings for D:\Work successfully...
Then i tried to logon to the server, i entered the password and got:
cvs login
(Logging in to alex@datanaut1)
cvs [login aborted]: recv() from server datanaut1: Connection reset by peer
*****CVS exited normally with code 1*****
Could anyone help me with this, pls?
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Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 08:34:49 -0500
From: will dresslar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Looking for a utility!
What utility can I use to search a file for all duplicate enrties? I
do not want to provide any input as I just want to see any and all
duplicate entries. I don't think grep can do this.
Thanks
Will
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From: Neil Zanella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: please help: mount failed
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 11:36:52 -0230
Hello,
After attempting several installations here is what I can conclude
about the "mount failed" installation problem:
I don't know what exactly is causing it but there must be an error
with the Red Hat 5.2 installation program because, cronologically:
(i) I did a workstation install and things went fine
(ii) I went back and did a custom install defining more partitions
than those defined by the workstation install and I got the
"mount failed" error
(iii) ...but after that I clicked on the Back button all the way back
to the installatin class menu and selected workstation
install instead of custom install. This had the strange effect of
preserving all my partitions and mount points as I made them but
not al packages I had selected were installed. But there was no
"mount failed" error after doing this.
Perhaps this error is fixed in later releases of RedHat (?).
The funniest thing is when I installed RH 5.2 with my FAT16 partition
instead of the FAT32 partition I never got a mount failed error and
did the same steps as for custom install.
Thanks,
Neil
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From: John Reiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Looking for a utility!
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 07:15:45 -0700
> What utility can I use to search a file for all duplicate enrties? I
> do not want to provide any input as I just want to see any and all
> duplicate entries. I don't think grep can do this.
/bin/sort ? Or perhaps /bin/sort | /usr/bin/uniq -c ?
[What is an "entry"?]
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO malfunction
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 14:32:49 GMT
Andres Soolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on 12 Aug 2000 00:12:18 GMT, wrote :
AS> Jeff Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
AS>
AS> > the computer boots and says "LI" instead of "LILO:" and you can't do
AS> > anything. I think you can take a distribution cd and fix it by doing an
AS> Apparently, your kernel is out of the reach for LILO. Since LILO uses
AS> BIOS to boot the kernel, it has several limitations for the location
AS> of the kernel: in most i386 machines, the kernel had to be within the
AS> first 1024 tracks (528MB) of the hard disk, in most latter machines the
AS> limi is at about 8GB.
AS>
AS> The usual way to fix it is to create a small partition in the beginning
AS> of the disk, mount it to /boot and put kernels always in it.
AS>
AS> Also, I've heard the newest LILOs can avoid it. I don't know how they
AS> do that but then again--I've not looked at them seriously. You might
AS> try them.
The newer LILO uses the newer BIOS calls that don't have the 1024
cylinder limit. Of course you need a new enough BIOS for this to work...
Creating a small (64-128meg) root (/) or a tiny (5meg or so) /boot file
system early (entirely below cylinder 1024) *always* works.
AS>
AS> --
AS> Andres Soolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
AS>
AS> Do nothing unless you must, and when you must act -- hesitate.
AS>
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Please Detect My Modem.
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 14:32:50 GMT
N/A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Sat, 12 Aug 2000 03:29:51 GMT, wrote :
N> i have a rockwell modem and when following the instructions for it to
N> detect my modem in terminal mode nothing really happens, i use the command
N> minicom and it says command not found or 'using default' yet nothing
N> happens. when trying to connect to the internet i either get the
N> responce 'modem is locked' or 'modem not detected' what is the problem?
This is a PCI modem? If so, Linux won't ever see it. Toss it and get
an *external* RS232 Serial modem.
N>
N> --
N> Posted via CNET Help.com
N> http://www.help.com/
N>
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From: "sammi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: problem with creating mailbox.
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 22:42:45 +0800
Hi, everyone. I am new to Linux. And now i am trying to create a user and
with a mail box for them. I was successfuly created a user but i got no idea
about how to create a mail account. Because i am don't have any linux and
unix backgroud, i hope if any one of you know that please tell me ok. Or you
have any website which teach this kind of information, please let me know.
Your help is appreciated.
My eamil is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From:
Sammi.
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From: Praedor Tempus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Changing how netscape/box is ID'd
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 08:50:21 -0600
David Rysdam wrote:
>
> Try www.junkbuster.org
>
> And Praedor Tempus Spoke:
> >Is there a method by which I can change the "User Agent" id
> >that my box provides (when surfing with Netscape) to sites?
[...]
Yeah, well...I was hoping for a means by editing a file
somewhere. I understand at least some of the advantage to
identifying one's box as a Mac, Doze, or linux system running
this or that browser, but I would like to hide or change this
information on occassion - preferably by editing some config
file or adding a file or SOMETHING. Is this not possible? Is
it built into the navigator binary?
praedor
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From: Rick Lim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELLLLP cannot reboot !!
Date: 12 Aug 2000 15:15:31 GMT
Dirk Reckmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Rick Lim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>I will not reboot, it get stuck at
:>
:>init: error in loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libpLiS.so: cannot
:>open shared object file: not such file or directory
:>Does anyone have a way to boot around this, so I can
:>fix it ?????
: Try at the LILO: prompt
: LILO: <your_linux_image> init=/bin/bash
: this should skip starting init and give you a root shell.
: Hope this helps!
: Dirk
got it going using the Redhat rescue method and I'm able
to mount the partions to look at them, but what do I do
to stop the init from looking for the shared library???
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The wealth of reality, cannot be seen from your locality.
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
From: Gary Krupa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Gary Krupa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: parport / kernel message problem
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 15:35:43 GMT
Right after I compiled the kernel and modules, and configured the
/etc/conf.modules file with parport, I saw the name of my printer, an Epson
Stylus Color 800, appear after parport1 during bootup after the modules
installed. Of course the printer was turned on at that point.
This is (and has been) my parport configuration:
alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
options parport_pc io=0x3bc,0x378 irq=5,7
Mysteriously, the printer's name no longer appears, even though I have the
printer online during bootup. I made no changes to conf.modules other than
to add a sound driver / module on irq 9. What I see now is:
parport1: PC-style at 0x378, irq 7 [SPP,ECP,ECPEPP,ECPPS2]
parport0: no IEEE-1284 device present.
parport1: Unspecified, Unknown vendor Unknown device
Parallel printer support has been compiled as a module.
The printer prints fine in linux, as well or better than it did before the
change in the bootup message.
What could account for the "unknown vendor Unknown device" message? I know
that the printer is IEEE-1284 compliant. Do I need to recompile the kernel,
even though it's highly unlikely that doing that will resolve the problem?
I'd be grateful for any assistance or suggestions anyone could offer.
Gary Krupa
Ventura, CA USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Robert Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to copy a diskette?
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 10:48:15 -0500
Dances With Crows wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 20:07:06 -0500, Robert Jones wrote:
> >Dances With Crows wrote:
> >> The bs= option there is for speed; 1.4M floppies have 18K/track. Using
> >> the default bs of 512 bytes takes almost 2.5 times longer. If it helps,
> >> think of dd as doing what they call a "sector copy" in DOS.
> >
> >Very enlightening. Only problem is, I tried copying my rescue image (which I
> >already have on my hard drive, along with some other images) using
> >[root@localhost rj]# dd if=/images/rescue.bin of=/dev/fd0H1440 bs=18k
> >[root@localhost rj]# dd if=/images/rescue.bin of=/dev/fd0H1440 bs=9216
> >[root@localhost rj]# dd if=/images/rescue.bin of=/dev/fd0H1440
> >[root@localhost rj]# dd if=/images/rescue.bin of=/dev/fd0H1440 bs=1440k
> >and the times were virtually identical for all four. (~49 secs from pressing
> >the return key until my prompt came back). Am I missing something, or is your
> >timing result based on something you once saw, perhaps running different
> >hardware or a different kernel? I'm serious!
>
> Different hardware. My laptop (P-150, 48M) sees a lot more floppy
> action than my desktop (K6-2 400, 96M) so one day I did this:
>
> **LAPTOP**
> time dd if=crud of=/dev/fd0
> real 1m39.262s
> time dd if=crud of=/dev/fd0 bs=18k
> real 0m48.524s
>
> **DESKTOP**
> time dd if=crud of=/dev/fd0
> real 0m48.517s
> time dd if=crud of=/dev/fd0 bs=18k
> real 0m48.428s
>
> YMMV, eh? (OK, it's not quite 2.5x longer, more like 2x. Oops.) The
> bs= part is obviously a very good thing for older, slower hardware!
Thanks for confirming my suspicions. One less mystery...
I've been lurking here long enough to know that what you and Mr. Heller said was
>not< incorrect BUT I've been telling time longer'n either of us have been
computing and I was reasonably confident in the validity of my observation as
well.
Best regards
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