Linux-Misc Digest #287, Volume #26 Sat, 11 Nov 00 19:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: SSH problems (Matthew L Creech)
Re: If I switch to Mandrake 7.2, will I take a hit? ("Mark")
Problems with bru 15.1 on DLT 4000 autoloader using mtx. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Path - Making It Permanent (John Hanson)
Installing Xfree86 4.0
Re: KDE vs GNOME: specific issues (Jim Richardson)
Trying to set up Samba w/ W98... (Andrew Purugganan)
Re: Oracle 8i on RH Linux 7.0 (Dances With Crows)
Re: backups via NFS ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: If I switch to Mandrake 7.2, will I take a hit? ("Garry Knight")
Re: pppd dies unexpectedly! ("Bas de Beer")
Unable to run Sawfish config as non-root (legend)
Re: Oracle 8i on RH Linux 7.0 ("Marco Shaw")
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From: Matthew L Creech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SSH problems
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 15:24:25 -0500
The SUID changes were not what caused it, because I set them all back to
exactly how they were (I kept a file of all programs originally setuid
before I started) and it still doesn't work. Most of those programs are
completely unneeded anyway, the only things I really need setuid are
things like ping, passwd, X, and a few others. SSH doesn't need setuid,
because the server is executed as root anyways by init (which is why it
isn't setuid by default), and the client only comes setuid because it
needs access in order to do RSA authentication - if you're not using
RSA, you can safely remove the bit. All the other programs on there
were stuff I wasn't using, like user info programs and such. And no, I
am not using the xterm that I crippled to try to run SSH. :) I don't
use it, that's exactly why I disabled it. Anyway I ran an strace and
found a whole lot of jack squat, it apparently validates my password
then the client receieves a 'connection closed' signal. I even tried
attaching strace to my already-running sshd pid, then connecting with
the client, then killing sshd. That didn't tell me anything either,
sshd did everything fine and then at the end it just receives an
INVALID_CONNECTION signal, with no other info. So that leads me to
believe that it is in fact a problem stemming from the login program or
some other program since SSHD itself didn't generate the error. Oh
well, thanks for your attempted help, let me know if you have any
creative ideas, otherwise I'm just gonna go through my log file and find
every file that was changed over the past couple of weeks and have a
look at it (that's a lot of files.) :)
Dustin Puryear wrote:
>
> On Fri, 10 Nov 2000 17:12:14 -0500, Matthew L Creech
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Dustin Puryear wrote:
> >>
> >> To check the permissions use ls with the -l option. In addition, the -a
> >> option will give you a listing of *all* files. Hopefully, you get the
> >
> >Hehe - based on the replies I received I take it this newsgroup gets
> >quite a few posts from not-so-familiar-with-linux people. :) Anyhoo,
> >permissions on /etc/passwd are fine (owner root, perm 0644), and
>
> I read Peter's reply before relying to this and I am just going to agree
> with his suggestion. You will need to compare with a working system to
> see exactly what is broken. Also, next time, before you change the SUID
> bit on everything you might want to double-check that the program indeed
> does not need SUID.
>
> Regards, Dustin
>
> --
> Dustin Puryear <$email = "dpuryear"."@usa.net";>
> Integrate Linux Solutions into Your Windows Network
> - http://www.prima-tech.com/integrate-linux
--
Matthew L. Creech
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From: "Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: If I switch to Mandrake 7.2, will I take a hit?
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 20:26:35 GMT
Interesting to hear all these people say 64 megs is not enough; I have 64
megs.
I have MDK 7.2 installed with Gnome and KDE.. switch back and forth between
them. It's not as fast as I'd like but, I would not say slower than
Winblows 98; I would say slower than older version, though. The only place
I've noticed a slow down is while booting and that might have something to
do with something new in my configuration.
Of course, as with any setup 128 is going to have a huge performance boost
from 64.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Problems with bru 15.1 on DLT 4000 autoloader using mtx.
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 21:02:57 GMT
I have a ADIC FastStore DLT4000 that I am trying to get
bru 15.1 to work on. I have tried their "method 2", which
means creating unmountcmd.sh and mountcmd.sh files. The
mountcmd.sh is supposed to eject the first tape. Using
mt -f /dev/st0 rewoffl, I had no luck ejecting the tape.
I have looked at two other packages: scsi-changer and mtxl.
Both allow me to load a tape just fine. I will put the output
from mtx in this post, since it seems to give more diagnostic
information.
# ./mtx -f /dev/sg0 status
Storage Changer /dev/sg0:1 Drives, 7 Slots ( 0 Import/Export )
Data Transfer Element 0:Empty
Storage Element 1:Full
Storage Element 2:Full
Storage Element 3:Full
Storage Element 4:Empty
Storage Element 5:Empty
Storage Element 6:Empty
Storage Element 7:Empty
# ./mtx -f /dev/sg0 load 1
This results in:
Storage Changer /dev/sg0:1 Drives, 7 Slots ( 0 Import/Export )
Data Transfer Element 0:Full (Storage Element 1 Loaded)
Storage Element 1:Empty
Storage Element 2:Full
Storage Element 3:Full
Storage Element 4:Empty
Storage Element 5:Empty
Storage Element 6:Empty
Storage Element 7:Empty
This is expected. Then, I want to load the "next" tape using
# ./mtx -f /dev/sg0 next
Unloading Data Transfer Element into Storage Element 1...mtx: Request
Sense: Long Report=yes
mtx: Request Sense: Valid Residual=no
mtx: Request Sense: Error Code=70 (Current)
mtx: Request Sense: Sense Key=Illegal Request
mtx: Request Sense: FileMark=no
mtx: Request Sense: EOM=no
mtx: Request Sense: ILI=no
mtx: Request Sense: Additional Sense Code = 3B
mtx: Request Sense: Additional Sense Qualifier = 90
mtx: Request Sense: BPV=no
mtx: Request Sense: Error in CDB=no
mtx: Request Sense: SKSV=no
mtx: MOVE MEDIUM from Element Address 82 to 1 Failed
Is there any reason for this to fail? Everything appears
to work fine, except that I can't unload a tape. If I manually
unload a tape, I can load the next one just fine.
I have essentially the same trouble with scsi-changer. I
am just trying to get bru to work with the autoloader so
it will stream from tape to tape.. but it looks like I
need to get either mtx or scsi-changer to correctly unmount
tapes.
Thanks,
Eric Christianson
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: John Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Path - Making It Permanent
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 21:13:53 GMT
On 11 Nov 2000 17:27:24 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh) jumped
on a soap box and uttered:
>>In <3a0c7aaa$0$19433$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "mpierce"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>>In what file do I put a path statement to make it globally permanent on startup
>>>instead of exporting it everytime (I think I can put it in .bash_profile
>>>but that would only apply to a user).
>>
>>Put it in .bashrc for each user.
>>You can also put it into /etc/bashrc although I am not sure this is read
>>always.
I believe this is read when you add a user. The /etc/bashrc file
configures the .bashrc file for the new user. I think this would be
the way to go and then just add it to the existing users .bashrc. I'm
not 100% certain on this.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Installing Xfree86 4.0
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 21:30:07 -0000
I got the winlinux 2000 and stuff from max linux mag. i installed it, runs
fine, but i cant install much of most things on the cd. i can get
staroffice install, but not xfree86, how can i install it an alternative
way? when i try to install it, it says that it can only be install from
local drive only, and so, i copy the thing to my HD, and try to install it
again, but it gives me the same error, i dont know why.
can anyone help me out?
sorry, no other informations about my linux can be giving, i m a newbie,
and dont flame if you dont like it.
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Richardson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,linux.redhat,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: KDE vs GNOME: specific issues
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 13:33:40 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 6 Nov 2000 12:40:51 GMT,
Donovan Rebbechi, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brought forth the following words...:
>On Mon, 06 Nov 2000 01:33:33 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>Well, KDevelop 1.3 (for KDE) just came out, so if you need an IDE to
>>work within that might be your best choice. GNOME has glade, but I
>>found it less confusing to just code the stuff from scratch myself.
>
>KDevelop is an IDE, which uses an automake/autoconf based build under the
>hood. Their default configure.in files are quite handy if you're going to be
>writing any KDE/QT based projects. (however, I prefer to steer clear of
>automake. I find the automake-Makefiles very messy)
>
>Glade on the other hand is a GUI builder, which generates XML GUIs. the
>idea is that you build the GUI by way of drag-and-drool and just implement
>the callbacks ("slots" in Qt-speak) by hand. The intriguing aspect of
>glade is that the GUIs can be built on-the-fly at runtime from the
>XML files. Only the callbacks need to be read at compile-time.
>
>This is very similar to the Qt designer package. However, it seems that
>Qt designer works by generating all the source code (and it appears that
>it forces you to derive just to implement the slots by hand, which is
>very annoying. In contrast with glade, which uses a seperate file
>callbacks.c for its "slots" that doesn't get overwritten on subsequent
>runs of glade)
>
>--
>Donovan
Also, there are ways to use glade with python, (and I think perl) because of
the modularity approach. The GUI is simply one module, it can call Python.
(At least as I understand it)
--
Jim Richardson
Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Trying to set up Samba w/ W98...
Date: 11 Nov 2000 13:31:01 GMT
I am not sure which protocols the Win98 should have so that Samba on my
Lin box can see and share with it. Is 'NetBEUI' necessary, it's the
closest thingto NetBIOS that I can see on W98. I also have TCP/IP listed
(all these appear in Control Panel/network)
thanks for any help.
--
jazz
Registered linux user no. 164098 +--+--+--+ Litestep user no. 386
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Oracle 8i on RH Linux 7.0
Date: 11 Nov 2000 22:32:02 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[inappropriate NGs trimmed]
On Sat, 11 Nov 2000 11:44:36 -0600, Doug Holtz wrote:
>Where can I get Oracle for Linux? Is there a free download version?
Go to http://technet.oracle.com/products/8i/ . You will have to
register with them, the download is pretty bloody huge (250+M) and there
are a number of restrictions. You can use the free download for
development/testing/fiddling around, but if you put it into production,
you have to pay for it. IIRC there's a limit on the number of
simultaneous connections to the database with the free download.
The install procedure is a royal pain in the arse, as you may have heard
from other sources. I posted a brief guide back around June or July,
but it was geared to SuSE users. RedHat users may have fewer problems,
since Oracle developed the thing for RedHat in the first place. Go to
your distro's website and search around for "Oracle"; they most likely
have a patch set for the installer. Apply that patch set and follow the
directions. Make sure that the environment variable ORA_NLS33 is set
correctly! It should point at $ORACLE_HOME/ocommon/nls/admin/data but
it took me 45 minutes of cursing and using strace to find out that the
installer was barfing because of that variable.
The Net8 Configuration Assistant crashed spectacularly every time I
tried to save the config file it was supposed to be creating. Sample
config files are in $ORACLE_HOME/network/admin/samples/ so just modify
those by hand with a text editor and put them in the appropriate places
instead of trying to use the Assistant. HTH, good luck....
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/ I hit a seg fault....
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:45:30 -0500
Subject: Re: backups via NFS
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 11/11/00
at 04:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jerry McBride) said:
>In article <3a0bf459$3$qnivfs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>--- snip ---
>>I'm having trouble with my main machine right now, darn it! Everything's
>>on hold until I can boot back in.
>>
>Ooopps... you run as root, all the time? I used to do that when I was
>first into linux... then after I rm'ed my root directory I figure it'd be
>best to start logging in as a user... :')
No, I only log in as root when I want to fool around; I fool around too
much!<g>
>[...]
>Hmmm... I don't have any idea how things are priced there in Germany. But
>here in the US, buying an additional harddrive would probably offer the
>BEST bang for the buck.
A guy with a shop around the corner seems to have some SCSI stuff
periodically at reduced prices. In general the HD prices seem comparable
to the USA.
It'd be faster than any of the other backup
>methods and if coupled with a "removable drive bay" it'd make for a GREAT
>way to swap in and out a number of different drives. I used to do just
>that, with scsi drives. Since that time, I've moved over to cdr as my
>back up media.
I have that on my machine at home. The next chance I get, I'll do a nice
backup of everything. While here I'm considering getting a burner but, as
you say, an extra HD, perhaps removable, is a nice, quick solution.
>>So, I guess in my case, backup should be pretty fast.
>>
>You bet!
>>I thought the answer would be 'dd' but I wanted to be sure.
>>
>There's other optiosn to... if you just need to backup a certain number
>of specific files.. you could do it with tar, zip, etc. You could use the
>current date as part of the filename, and keep the backups in/on your
>backup media.
I've been considering more 'brute force' -- packing _everything_. Maybe I
should fine-tune more. Linux seems to install things all over the place
though so I'm afraid of missing something if I cherrypick. (This is, of
course, a matter of my inexperience.)
My dream is, "Problem with system? Push a button and the latest backup is
restored." Or: "Just moved to Germany? Put together a computer, pop in a
<HD | tape | cd | ...> and your setup is restored (with tweaking, of
course!)."
>There's all kinds of options. I haven't explored them all either.... :')
>Cheers.
For kicks, and to get a backup for now, I'm going to try over the nfs
network with dd.
F.
>> We are Hugh...of Borg. Beverly will be assimilated. Hubba Hubba. <
Hugh is great! Would love for him to meet a nice Borguette!
F.
===========================================================
Felmon John Davis
Union College / Schenectady, NY
os/2 - ma kauft koi katz em sack
===========================================================
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From: "Garry Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: If I switch to Mandrake 7.2, will I take a hit?
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 23:14:25 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <8uj10h$1vpbh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "nemo"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I run an AMD K6-2 400 with 60MB RAM, and 4MB shared RAM. With so
> little resources, is it worth my while switching, as I've read that
> X-window app.s, and window managers can be resource hogs. Is my
> system's performnce likely to improve, suffer, or remain unchanged
> after a switch from Win98SE to MDK
> 7.2?
I'm running Mandrake 7.2 with KDE2 and X 4.01 on a Cyrix P200MMX, with
a 4 MB bog-standard graphics card, 80 MB RAM and an ATA66 hard drive
forced to run in ATA33 mode. I've had Konsole, Pan, KMail, Kppp and
Konqueror running concurrently at an acceptable speed with no problems.
I guess whether it's for you depends on what you're going to throw at
it.
--
Garry Knight
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Bas de Beer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.dial-up,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.ppp,linux.redhat.rpm
Subject: Re: pppd dies unexpectedly!
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 00:28:18 +0100
I have same trouble, after connecting pppd dies. Logfiles give me:
Nov 12 00:16:43 localhost pppd[1394]: pppd 2.3.11 started by root, uid 0
Nov 12 00:16:43 localhost pppd[1394]: ioctl(TIOCSETD): Invalid argument(22)
Nov 12 00:16:43 localhost pppd[1394]: Exit.
Anyone got a clou here?
BB
"Benjamin Autin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in bericht
news:8ujs2s$et2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Modem configured. Talking to my ISP through kppp. It goes through
> initialization, dialing, and before it can connect it dies on me giving me
> the message: "pppd daemon died unexpectedly" and the debug option doesn't
> give me any suggestions as to what I can do.
> As usual, any help would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> Ben
>
>
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From: legend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Unable to run Sawfish config as non-root
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 10:40:55 +1100
Hi all,
Under Mandrake 7.2 (and I believe it was the case for 7.1), as a user
you cannot run 'sawfish-ui' (the app that is run under control panel)
when you want to configure Sawfish.
If you run sawfish-ui you get:
error--> (error "can't call sawfish-client")et:
or 'sawfish-client' you get:
can't connect to display:
Upon doing a grep for all "sawfish" processes, I get this:
shanel 1842 1 0 10:31 ? 00:00:02 sawfish --sm-client-id
11c0a8431
But logging in as root you do not have any of these problems.. Is it a
priv problem with Mandrake?
Hope someone can help, cos Sawfish is very nice and I'd like to use it.
regards,
Shane.
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From: "Marco Shaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Oracle 8i on RH Linux 7.0
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 00:00:21 GMT
Yes:
1. otn.oracle.com where you can get a free account, and continue from there.
2. Buy the Oracle Press/Osborne book: Oracle 8i for Linux Starter Kit to get
the CD.
Marco
"Doug Holtz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:3a0d859e$0$99041$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Where can I get Oracle for Linux? Is there a free download version?
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