Linux-Misc Digest #357, Volume #26               Mon, 20 Nov 00 15:13:02 EST

Contents:
  Re: Screw KDE 2.0!! - Im going crazy trying to install it. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  information about modules vs. devices (David A. Rogers)
  Re: Undelete a file in Linux (Jason)
  Re: Set environment variable in bsh script and effect another program. ("Joe 
(mvjap3) Philbrook III")
  Re: cdrecord and multi-session ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  LILO boor menu - 2 boots for Linux ("Jeff Chandler")
  Re: file is not found - but I know it exists! (Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D8._S=F8rensen?=)
  Adobe Acrobat XKeysymDB (Chris Shepard)
  Re: Screw KDE 2.0!! - Im going crazy trying to install it. ("Thomas Petz")
  Re: Screw KDE 2.0!! - Im going crazy trying to install it. (bob_more)
  Re: SMP system with AMD micros (Cokey de Percin)
  Handy -> PC put through -> somewhere else (Ekkard Gerlach)
  Ok I tried the kdeconfig ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Where can I learn what "rpm" means? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Netscape 6 (Carter Brey)
  Re: Screw KDE 2.0!! - Im going crazy trying to install it. (Lenny Leblanc)
  Re: X-Windows trys to start and then crashes ("Jeff Susanj")
  Re: Which Linux to try? (Colin Watson)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.install,alt.linux
Subject: Re: Screw KDE 2.0!! - Im going crazy trying to install it.
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 18:00:24 GMT

Sorry guys I forgot to put in the >>'s (joelwebb)

>>did you use the kdeconfig rpm if --nodeps and --force flagged, it
>>overwrites the login manager painlessly and offers you both kde and
>>kde2. I had it running in thirty minutes.

I looked for kdeconfig. Where is that rpm?? There is no tool on the
machine right now labeled kdeconfig nor an rpm on www.rpmfind.net.

The logon screen it offers kde1 and kde2. The kde2 craps out completely
and comes back to the logon screen. KDE1 goes into the new KDE mode
with a grey screen and bombs out, shows a KDE error:

The application KNotify (knotify) crashed and caused the signal 11
(SIGSEGV)

then brings up Kandall's useful tips.

I think the $PATH statement might be one of the problems, but I am
sorry I don't know the syntax of exporting the path of KDE which is I
AM GUESSING
/usr/local/kde/bin

Guys????






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Before you buy.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David A. Rogers)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: information about modules vs. devices
Date: 20 Nov 2000 17:03:35 GMT

Assuming that a call is made for /dev/foo ex.(/dev/midi00).  Is there any
documentation on what module name will be requested (via request_module) if
any?

dar



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From: Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Undelete a file in Linux
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 12:32:38 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

when you run the undelete from mc, it asks you what device you want to look 
at.  The reason why you unmount the file system as soon as possible is 
because, lets say you trashed your mp3's in your home directory.  No big 
deal, you just fire up mc and head to the undelete function. But you screw 
up and manage to start editing a file in mc instead, mc writes out its 
cache file and boom, you could have just trashed Tom Jones best hits.  Its 
always a good practice to unmount the file system that you just deleted the 
file from as soon as you know you made a boo boo.  It just prevents the 
file from being overwritten and gives you a chance. 

If you are only a user, you need to get ahold of the admin real fast and 
see if this is something that he will even consider doing.  Unmounting home 
is never a happy thing during a production day. Tends to get BOFH's cranky 
and most will just say hope you had a backup, leave me be.   

I dont have any hard numbers on odds for recovery before and after 
mounting, but I would be willing to say that it would be VERY difficult to 
overwrite a sector on an unmounted disc, baring great big magnets and a few 
straight pins. 


-- 
Jason 
      www.cyborgworkshop.com
...and the geek shall inherit the earth...

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From: "Joe (mvjap3) Philbrook III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Set environment variable in bsh script and effect another program.
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 13:39:08 -0500
Reply-To: mvjap3 at work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Ok I'm not sure if this is what your looking for... But here goes.

If you mean you want to run a script that will set some environmental
variables <or any variable for that matter> then when that script
terminates and you return to the command prompt, you want those variables
to still equal what your script just set them to???

Then there is a workaround... lets say your script is named fix_env
then instead of calling it with

$ fix_env

try calling it with

$ . fix_env

the preceding dot causes the shell to execute the script with it's
current process id <doesn't spawn a child process> so when the script ends
it's process is still the current process and the variable values stay...
Of course you may still have to export them... 

Note this can be used to inside another script.

example parent script fragment:

echo "$The_variable"
. fix_env
echo "$The_variable"


If fix_env changes the value of The_variable then the two echo statements
will differ... of course when the parent script terminates... then the
value will revert to it's former value unless the parent script was
called with the . scriptname method too...


        ---   ___
        <O>   <->    Joe (theWordy) Philbrook
            ^
          \___/      < [EMAIL PROTECTED] >

On Sun, 19 Nov 2000, linux_db wrote:

> Hi,Sir,
> 
> How can i set environment variable in a bsh script
> and effect another program which is not the script's
> child process?
> 
> thanks.
> 
> Liao.
> 
> 
> 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: cdrecord and multi-session
Date: 20 Nov 2000 10:40:16 -0800

Thomas Ruedas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I know that this is quite a common problem, but what I read in the
> README.multi and on deja didn't help, so here goes:
> I try to make a multi-session CD-R with cdrecord 1.8.1 on under SuSE
> Linux 7.0. The images for each session were created with
> mkisofs -r /home/ruedas/CDROM/convec > /tmp/convec.img
> in the 1st session and e.g. with
> mkisofs -r -C 'cdrecord -msinfo dev=3D6,0' -M /dev/sr1
> /home/ruedas/CDROM/tex > /tmp/tex.img
> in the following. I controlled the integrity of the image by mounting
> them before writing. Then I invoked cdrecord as follows:
> cdrecord dev=3D6,0 -multi -v -speed=3D2 /tmp/sem98-images.img
> 
> It seems obvious to me that I did write all three sessions, because
> /tmp # cdrecord -toc dev=3D6,0
  ...<snip>...
> 
> but when mounting I only see the 4 directories I wrote in the 1st
   ...<snip>...

I wasn't sure of the sequence you used from your post.  Did you eject
the CD after each session?  Some CDRs (including mine) won't show the
new stuff until you've ejected and re-inserted the CD.

   --- My real email is [EMAIL PROTECTED], if you remove the
   --- "UhUh" and "Spam".  (One of these days I'll figure out how to
   --- spoof emacs gnus).

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From: "Jeff Chandler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LILO boor menu - 2 boots for Linux
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 13:29:23 -0000

Hello all,

I have a question, hopefully someone will be kind enough to answer.
Just bought Linux Mandrake 7.2 and installed onmy Cyrix PR233 MMX system and
in the LILO boot menu that comes up, there are 2 different  boot kernels
there.

1. vmlinux - normal graphic boot
2. vmlinux-nonfb - text boot

now from the 1st boot option (which is default after installatin) I cannot
get the Xwindows to come up after boot completes. Boot goes just fine and I
see all the boot messages but the video goes dead, monitor light goes amber
and never comes back after trying to go to Xwindows.
However, in option 2, everything is fine. What does the nonfb mean in this??
Could this be related to the age of my system and the hardware? I run S3
VirgeDX video card with 4 meg of memory. Darn it was great when I bought it
and put it together (so stop laughing!!)

Thanks in advance,
Jeff



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D8._S=F8rensen?=)
Subject: Re: file is not found - but I know it exists!
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 19:03:35 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The problem is solved. The "stinit" program needed the libc5
libraries, which were not installed. After installing these,
everything works perfect. 
Thank you all.

Erik.

--
Erik Ø. Sørensen  
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: Chris Shepard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Adobe Acrobat XKeysymDB
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 11:57:24 -0700


Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask this question.  If so,
please point me to the appropriate ng.

Does anyone out there have Adobe's free Acrobat Reader installed
as a Netscrape plug-in?  Adobe's installation script is pretty dumb.
It can't find my XkeysymDB file, even though I set up an ENV
variable for it.  It gives me all sorts of errors because I run
it as root.  It launches Netscrape and it hangs, no pointer input
except (fortunately) Window menu to Destroy it.

I am running:

linux 2.2.16 (Slackware 7.0)
libc.so.6 (2.1.2)
fvwm2 2.2.4
netscrape 4.7
acroread 4.0

Many TIAs.  :)

-- 
Chris Shepard
Bailey, Colorado
SCCA FP Class '83 RX-7
http://www.unixbox.com/~maverick

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From: "Thomas Petz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Screw KDE 2.0!! - Im going crazy trying to install it.
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 20:10:34 +0100

It looks like you have not deinstalled the KDE 1 packages completely before
you installed KDE 2. I had the
same problem some time ago, with the SIGSEGV effect.
You have two choices (I ´ll assume the intel-platform)
1.) Remove the KDE 1 completely (e.g. don´t forget  the QT-packages) and
install KDE 2 (the packages from
www.kde.org do work, I have a running RedHat 7 with these packages
installed).
or
2.) Do a complete new install of RedHat 7. But be sure not to install any
KDE 1 packages. With my RedHat 7
distribution, I can choose a Gnome-workstation installation or a completely
user defined installation. When using
the user defined way, you can exclude the gnome-packages you don´t want from
installation.

Note: When installing/deinstalling, you will see there are packages that
depend on the installation/deinstallation of other packages.
When installing, install the "lower" packages (e.g. libmng) first. RPM tells
you on what packages a package does
depend. When deinstalling. remove the "higher" packages first (e.g.
koffice). My experience is that not following
this rule can leave your system in a mess.

Regards,
Thomas

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:8vborh$mco$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Sorry guys I forgot to put in the >>'s (joelwebb)
>
> >>did you use the kdeconfig rpm if --nodeps and --force flagged, it
> >>overwrites the login manager painlessly and offers you both kde and
> >>kde2. I had it running in thirty minutes.
>
> I looked for kdeconfig. Where is that rpm?? There is no tool on the
> machine right now labeled kdeconfig nor an rpm on www.rpmfind.net.
>
> The logon screen it offers kde1 and kde2. The kde2 craps out completely
> and comes back to the logon screen. KDE1 goes into the new KDE mode
> with a grey screen and bombs out, shows a KDE error:
>
> The application KNotify (knotify) crashed and caused the signal 11
> (SIGSEGV)
>
> then brings up Kandall's useful tips.
>
> I think the $PATH statement might be one of the problems, but I am
> sorry I don't know the syntax of exporting the path of KDE which is I
> AM GUESSING
> /usr/local/kde/bin
>
> Guys????
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.



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Subject: Re: Screw KDE 2.0!! - Im going crazy trying to install it.
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.install,alt.linux
From: bob_more <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 14:15:28 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> did you use the kdeconfig rpm if --nodeps and --force flagged, it
> overwrites
> the login manager painlessly and offers you both kde and kde2. I had it
> running in thirty minutes.
>=20
> I looked for kdeconfig. Where is that rpm?? There is no tool on the
> machine right now labeled kdeconfig nor an rpm on www.rpmfind.net.
>=20
> The logon screen it offers kde1 and kde2. The kde2 craps out completely
> and comes back to the logon screen. KDE1 goes into the new KDE mode
> with a grey screen and bombs out, shows a KDE error:
>=20
> The application KNotify (knotify) crashed and caused the signal 11
> (SIGSEGV)
>=20
> then brings up Kandall's useful tips.
>=20
> I think the $PATH statement might be one of the problems, but I am
> sorry I don't know the syntax of exporting the path of KDE which is I
> AM GUESSING
> /usr/local/kde/bin
>=20
> Guys????
>=20
>=20
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

I got it off of one of the mirror sites of kde.org, at the root of the /p=
ub
directory. maybe I'm assuming too much in thinking all have it?=20


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From: Cokey de Percin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: SMP system with AMD micros
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 19:09:11 GMT

José Manuel Benítez Sánchez wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>         This is a request for information on SMP machines with AMD micros (K6
> II and up). As far as I knew, there were no motherboard designed to work
> two or more of these processors. However, a colleague of mine insists in
> that he's already read something on the web regarding one of these
> machines (Have a look at http://www.combatsim.com/htm/mar99/k7amd.htm).
> Has anybody further information about these machines? Could you point me
> to some URLs on the net about the subject?
>         Thanks in advance!
>         Greetings!
> 
>         José Manuel

There are none at this time AFAIK.  Tyan is supposed to have one 'real soon
now' (see link at www.2cpu.com) and AMD has demo'd one.  I suspect that it
will be sometime in the 1st quarter before they're readily available.  Note
that they will only be for the newer (Thunderbird?) chips, not for the older
K6-2 & K6-3.

Best

Cokey

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From: Ekkard Gerlach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.networking,de.alt.comm.isdn4linux,alt.os.linux.dial-up,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Handy -> PC put through -> somewhere else
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 20:02:18 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello, 

somebody knows how I can configure my PC (Linux) 
to put through a telephone call to another site ?
I have ISDN (two lines) with an ISDN-card and 
an analog adapter for old analog telephones.

I want to dial xxxxxxxxyyyyyyyyy
where xxxxxxxx is the number of my PC
and yyyyyyyy is the number the PC has to
put through. 

The aim is: calls from handy to special numbers
(like my home area with my PC) 
are very cheap, also ALL calls from PC to 
somewhere else. So I could save money.

Has somebody an idea how to realise? Are there 
Windows tools for this?

thx
Ekkard


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.install,alt.linux
Subject: Ok I tried the kdeconfig
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 19:30:19 GMT

I installed the kdeconfig and it said that that some of the files
conflict with kdebase. So I forced the istallation in and I still get
the same result described on my original posting.

Anybody Anybody....

Bueller.. Bueller...???


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Before you buy.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Where can I learn what "rpm" means?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 16:25:47 +0000

James Hutchins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> Trying to get into Linux but having a problem with the files I'm trying to
> download. They are "rpm" files and my real player application tries to run
> them, ruining my download. Thanks for any pointers...

That's netscape fucking up. ra and rm files are real player format.
RPM = Red Hat Package Manager file format.
Instead of just clicking on the link, right click and select "Save link as".

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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 14:43:07 -0500
From: Carter Brey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape 6

Hi--

I recently downloaded and unzipped all the necessary files for Netscape 6,

installed them, made the appropriate environmental variable entries in my

.bash_profile, and then tried to run the netscape binary. I keep getting

a segmentation fault. Has anyone else seen this? Any suggestions? This

happened both with the Netscape installer program when I let it handle

all the downloads, and when I did everything by hand.

Thanks.

--
Carter Brey ([EMAIL PROTECTED])




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From: Lenny Leblanc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.install,alt.linux
Subject: Re: Screw KDE 2.0!! - Im going crazy trying to install it.
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 19:51:05 GMT

export KDEDIR='/path/to/kde/';

leonard

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Sorry guys I forgot to put in the >>'s (joelwebb)
>
> >>did you use the kdeconfig rpm if --nodeps and --force flagged, it
> >>overwrites the login manager painlessly and offers you both kde and
> >>kde2. I had it running in thirty minutes.
>
> I looked for kdeconfig. Where is that rpm?? There is no tool on the
> machine right now labeled kdeconfig nor an rpm on www.rpmfind.net.
>
> The logon screen it offers kde1 and kde2. The kde2 craps out completely
> and comes back to the logon screen. KDE1 goes into the new KDE mode
> with a grey screen and bombs out, shows a KDE error:
>
> The application KNotify (knotify) crashed and caused the signal 11
> (SIGSEGV)
>
> then brings up Kandall's useful tips.
>
> I think the $PATH statement might be one of the problems, but I am
> sorry I don't know the syntax of exporting the path of KDE which is I
> AM GUESSING
> /usr/local/kde/bin
>
> Guys????
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.


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From: "Jeff Susanj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: X-Windows trys to start and then crashes
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 19:11:27 GMT

Is the font server running?  Check to see if xfs started OK on boot.

Jeff S.


mike wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I have at least a gigabyte of space left and 80megs of system ram
>and at least 120megs swap space. What is the relevance of
>the amount of disk space to the X-Windows crash?
>
>                                                Thanks
>                                                        Mike
>
>Lori Holder-Webb wrote:
>
>> How much space is available on your disk?
>>
>> mike wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >     I am running Redhat 6.1 on a 386 type machine a NexGen 586, I am
>> > told.
>> >     The error message I get is the following
>> > -FontTransocketUNIXConnect: can't connect" errno = 111
>> > failed to set default font 'unix/:-1'
>> > Fatal server error:
>> > could not open default font 'fixed'
>> > X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)
>> >
>> >                                                         Thanks
>> >                                                             Mike
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Which Linux to try?
Date: 20 Nov 2000 19:48:23 GMT

Martin Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>If you are new to linux Corel will be a good choice, because it is easy
>to install and administrate . If you have gained more experince you may
>want to switch to another distro, because Corel lacks many common linux
>tools , on my cd i didnt found even the editor emacs .

Bizarre. I can't find it in the corellinux-1.2 directory on their FTP
site either. You can always upgrade from Corel to Debian (2.2), though.

-- 
Colin Watson                                     [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"What a hairstyle, what a finish!" - Sydney Olympics boxing commentator

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