On Sun, 25 Apr 1999, Ford Prefect wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Dennis wrote:
>
> > SOME people (unlike yourself) need quality commercial products to run their
Generally speaking (my view is predicated on my experience with M$, SCO
and PROGRESS corporation) "quality commercial products" is an oxymoron.
I will admit that today's robber barons have a sense of humour. Calling
a bug fix an upgrade and then charging for it is rather droll. I've had
tech support contracts that were also simultaneously expensive and
useless - `oh, so you need us to develop a solution for your unique
problem...well we can accomodate you but there will be development fees.'
Nowadays I won't even evaluate something that comes without src.
> > businesses and they'd like to run LINUX. You only NEED source for
> > half-baked unsupported products.
Ah. Thanks for clearing that up. I've always suspected that Berkeley
Unix was `half-baked' - that would explain the remarkable uptime (as
compared with superior products like Windows NT). Besides, what right
minded sysadmin would want to recompile a kernel anyway. Why not
pay someone to do it? Or simply buy new hardware?
(A few months in hospital can save several hours wasted on doctor visits.)
> Hmm... Odd, I thought Apache was one of the highest ranked web server programs
> out there; but, since it comes with the source, I guess it could never replace
> something running on NT...
Steve - there is also Netscape...I suspect that their product has de-evolved.
How else could one explain the decision to release src? I mean, c'mon,
surely no one buys the idea that releasing src to scores of hackers -
who will doubtless modify and improve it - is a good business decision?
Sorry for leaping in like this - taking a break from a PROGRESS problem.
You see my maintenance contract expired ($8k US / year) so I must fix it
myself. Believe it or not PROGRESS only billed my company for 11 of 12
serial numbers a couple of years ago. We paid and then found out, once
they had realized their mistake, that we would have to pay severe penalties
to restore our good standing (and our tech suppt contract). My account
representative called this `clumsy account administration' and apologized
for the error. But insisted on getting his cash. We decided to move all
of our dbs to SQL (there is one PROGRESS db yet to be ported.) We tried
Oracle, then Sybase. We ended up with PostgreSQL. It behaves very well.
Of course, once I compile the binaries, I delete the src tree. Having
that thing around gives me cause to question the quality of my RDBMS. ;-)
Cheers,
Tom
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