Linux-Networking Digest #4, Volume #10 Tue, 26 Jan 99 06:13:47 EST
Contents:
Re: Total Beginners Internet Connection Question (Edwin Calimbo)
Re: RJ-45 network needs hub ? (John Smith)
Re: Do I need Samba ?? (Johnny Icon)
Re: Probleme mit Netwerk ("Gerald Werner")
Where to put stuff like dhcpd.X.tar.gz to install it (Jeffrey T Kowalczyk)
Win98 + Linux (samba) ("Patrick Batemen")
Re: TULIP CHIPSET: 10/100 Nic Anywhere? (Bill McCall)
Re: Why Does Linux Networking Suck So Badly ? (root)
Re: PPP Setup for Uswest.net Dial in (Clayton Haapala)
Re: Using ICQ via Squid proxy (RyanA)
Re: GTE, DSL and Linux (Eugene Koontz)
Re: GTE, DSL and Linux (Richard Steiner)
Re: Linux --> Company NT RAS - Can it be done? (Nickolay Kuzmin)
Re: Routing Question (NEWBIE) (root)
Re: Redhat vs. Slackware ("Eddie Tan")
Re: Connect without hub (James Knott)
Apache web page not accessible from outside (Hazim)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edwin Calimbo)
Subject: Re: Total Beginners Internet Connection Question
Date: 26 Jan 99 08:08:59 GMT
Wee Moose ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Ok, I am a total beginner, but I am going to set up a trial Linux network and
: may expand it to the rest of my lab. I am used to a token ring Novell network.
: I have the following to set up as the trial server:
: 1 IBM Netfinity 3500 server-brand new, has built in network, sound, cd, only
: one PII at this time.
: 2. 5 IBM and compatibles running W/95 all w10/100bt cards
: 3. 1 33k ISA internal modem
: I Currently have no hubs, this is because I am somewhat confused.
: Is there a way to put the modem on the server and have the server dial up the
: ISP at hourly intervals to exchange E-mail?
: Can I set the server to dial out only when someone wants to surf the web? How
: many users can use the dialup at a time?
: I have to share the line w/a fax machine, so that needs to be accessable at odd
: times during the day.
: Thanks for helping,
: Carl Bogardus, Technology Instructor/Coordinator
: Teachers' Page at http://members.aol.com/index.html
: Chaparral Middle School
: http://www.homeworkheaven.com/schools/chaparral
: Remove junkbloc from address to e-mail me.
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From: John Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RJ-45 network needs hub ?
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:48:29 -0600
You can use a hub and full duplex.. if you have a really good one :o)
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David 'Septimus' De Ridder wrote:
> Whereto with speedy words Stuart R. Fuller repli'd :
>
> >Drew Shelley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> >
> >On the other hand, using a hub, even for 2 computers has its advantages:
>
> On the other hand, using a cross-over cable allows you to use
> full-duplex mode, which isn't possible with a hub.
>
> Regards,
>
> +-----------------------------------------------------------------+
> David 'Septimus' De Ridder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> "Yesterday was the only easy day."
>
> +-----------------------------------------------------------------+
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Johnny Icon)
Subject: Re: Do I need Samba ??
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 03:24:35 GMT
On Thu, 21 Jan 1999 17:39:53 -0500, Edd Stanley
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I would like to know if it is necessary for me to install Samba on my
>Linux box in order to connect it with my Windows95 machine on an
>ethernet??
>
>I only need to have ftp, telnet, and http connections to the Linux box.
>I just wanted to know if this is possible without having to install
>Samba
>because I have to do all of my installations by diskette (I have no CD
>ROM
>drive.)
>
> Thanks!!
> Edd
>
>
No to do what you need you don't require samba
you can telnet, ftp and http with linux N.P
but if you want to try out SMB then just have a crack at
it, for a small network, it is pretty pointless
unless you have to get to a printer on a Win box
or wanna emulate NT PDC logins
but knowing its there is what makes linux so great
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From: "Gerald Werner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Probleme mit Netwerk
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 21:27:40 +0100
Hallo Lars,
Problem erstmal geloest.
In /etc/conf.modules -> options 3c590x options= >0 einstellen.
Warum weiss ich noch nicht, doch eine Netzwerkverbindung funzt nun.
Gruss
Gerald
Lars Bergmann schrieb in Nachricht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
>Hallo Gerald,
>
>mach mal ein search auf dejanews (nach "3C905 linux"). beeindruckende
>liste mit genau diesem Problem. Ich sitze auch schon das ganze
>Wochenende dran... ist wohl ein Treiber-Problem.
>
>Da muss man morgen gleich mal bei Suse anrufen :=0
>
>Ich hab's erst mal aufgegeben.
>
>Lars
>
>
>
>> ich habe Linux SuSE 6.0 installiert.
>> Das System laeuft auch.
>> Nun versuche ich, eine Netzwerkverbindung zu erreichen.
>> Ich bringe einfach keinen Ping auf einen anderen Rechner zustande.
>> Verwendet wurde, nach mehreren Versuchen, die absolute Standardvorgabe
von
>> SuSE.
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From: Jeffrey T Kowalczyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Where to put stuff like dhcpd.X.tar.gz to install it
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 15:29:55 -0500
I am trying to get my cablemodem working, found a new dhcpcd, 1.3.17, and
need to know how one properly installs gzipped tar archives. I downloaded
the .tar.gz to /tmp, could use some advice on the particulars of properly
installing. I'm about 2 hours new to linux.
- Where do I get some bearings on where t find these things in the standard
filesystem layout? I can see already that putting config or binary files in
the correct place is 95% of learning linux.
- "tar zxpvf dhcpcd-1.3.17.tar.gz" will create a nice directory tree, but
under the current directory. Where will I want to move the archive before
issuing this command?
- What do I have to do to install this archive's contents for use on the
next bootup?
- Is there a general place where stuff like this dhcpcd daemon is put into
RPM format?
please cc email [EMAIL PROTECTED] , I'm on SLOW access until I get the
cablemodem working...
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From: "Patrick Batemen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Remove the XX on each end)>
Subject: Win98 + Linux (samba)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 15:45:11 -0500
Someone, please tell me how to connect my win98 box and redhat box
together, they were both running win98 and I had no problem, but I switched
to linux on one computer. They both have Dlink DE220 network cards, are
connected with coax, My win98 box:
IP:192.168.0.1
subnet: 255.255.255.0
name is: switch
Please help. Tell me how to use this samba thing! it is version 1.9.15P8-2
and appears to only run in console, please tell me how to use this, exactly
what to do. I am driving myself nuts over this!!
Thankyou,
Trevor
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill McCall)
Subject: Re: TULIP CHIPSET: 10/100 Nic Anywhere?
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 07:31:35 GMT
Try the Samsung SC1200-Tx, it uses the Digital 21110 chip.
On Mon, 25 Jan 1999 11:01:33 -0500, "Will Lyster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Looking for a 10/100 NIC that uses the Tulip chipset.
>
>Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Thanks
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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Does Linux Networking Suck So Badly ?
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:24:50 -0800
Elvis Whoppo wrote:
> "The mouse has moved...
> ...Windows must restart before this setting takes effect"
>
> All my love,
> -Whoppo
>
> On Wed, 20 Jan 1999 03:33:44 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (j) wrote:
>
> >The sheer number of messages posted here - usually half going
> >unanswered - tells the tale ... Linux networking sucks.
> >
> >Now you can take your Winders, add in file-sharing in just a
> >couple of minutes, bring up your Winders workstations and
> >locate and link in within just another few minutes. Easy.
> >Quick. Relatively painless. Not the Linux way ...
> >
> >Now you may try to defend Linux by saying that it has more
> >"flexibility" - but quite frankly we could do with a lot
> >less "flexibility" and a lot more simplicity. I'll bet
> >that 95% of users just want to tie into a local NT server
> >or use Linux AS a file/print server for Winders PCs.
> >I think that "flexibility" is just an excuse - a euphamism
> >for "a bunch of really unsophisticated little utilities
> >written with no real plan in mind by people with a fetish
> >for cryptic poorly-documented command-line parameters and
> >well-hidden config files". As is, Linux is a user-UNfriendly
> >mirror of MSDOS - and that goes double for "connectivity" issues.
> >
> >Want cheap PC networking & connectivity ? One "L" word comes
> >to mind and it's NOT "Linux" - try "LanTastic" instead.
> >
> >Now Linux IS relatively compact and fast and DOES get past
> >some of the old buggaboos inherent to DOS-derived systems,
> >but Linux just isn't "ripe" yet. It needs DUN boxes and
> >"Network" panels which HELP you with things and show all
> >the pertinent options and conflicts right there.
> >
> >Someone could make a LOT of money if they could put together
> >a turn-key Linux-based file/print server package which could
> >autoconfigure most things and be really easy and helpful on
> >the rest. Something you take out of the box and 20 minutes
> >later you have a good working server. You can do that with
> >Winders, but not with Linux unless you apparently have put
> >in a tremendous number of obsessive hours.
> >
> >Now you thought I was just gonna flame ... nope. I've been
> >relatively polite and realistic here. There are MANY issues
> >to address, MANY refinements to be made before Linux becomes
> >a really good option for administrators of small/medium networks.
> >As much as I dislike Winders, it's a positive relief to boot
> >back into it after fooling around for hours in vain with Linux.
> >Preferring Winders to ANYTHING ... IMHO that's a pretty severe
> >indictment. Linux has been badly over-sold. If it weren't so
> >cheap it would be a rip-off ... a hobby OS masquerading as
> >the "real deal".
> >
The fact that you even mention "LANTastic" in this quote means you know
absolutely nothing about networking.
LANTastic is a broadcast-only NOS, and can kill network throughput in
the blink of any eye. Also, ever tried networking games over a
LANTastic network? If you want simple, stay with "winders". If you
want to learn, make the move to linux.
=================================================================================
Freedom is the commodity I crave.
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Crossposted-To: mn.online-service
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clayton Haapala)
Subject: Re: PPP Setup for Uswest.net Dial in
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 05:47:51 GMT
I've had some success! Here's an /etc/ppp/peers file that has worked for me,
though not as reliably as I'd hoped:
crtscts
idle 600
ipcp-accept-local
ipcp-accept-remote
ipcp-max-terminate 10
lcp-max-failure 20
lcp-max-terminate 10
debug
defaultroute
asyncmap 0
(I've left out the call to chat and baudrate lines....)
No need for CHAP or PAP here.
I have tried to leave out either the lcp lines or the ipcp lines, but
it doesn't seem to work for me then. I also believe it is fatal to
specify "bsdcomp 12" or to not have the bsd_comp and deflate modules
available when running pppd, as some specific kinds of compression
must be required. I'm just guessing, there.
Next bit of fun is the on-demand stuff, as I'm using pppd 2.3.5. :-)
I also have to figure out the static routes I'll need to make my
dedicated link work, but at least I control that part.
--
Clay Haapala "Woe to he who fears change more than disaster! For
[EMAIL PROTECTED] how can he then avoid disaster?" -- from "the Firebugs"
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:19:15 -0700
From: RyanA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Using ICQ via Squid proxy
Martin Heupel wrote:
> I need an example to configure my squid proxy server to use ICQ on a
> windows 98 client. Any ideas?
> Thanks
> Martin
I don't think squid works with ICQ....squid is only a http proxy. Read
the HOWTO's on IP masquerading and forwarding. It's easy to set up and
works just fine. I use it on my home network with a Win95 client and my
Linux box connected to my ISP.
Good Luck
Ryan
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From: Eugene Koontz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: GTE, DSL and Linux
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 00:28:31 -0800
Stephen Carville wrote:
Hi Steven,
It's a real disgrace that they are running you through this. I'm using
DSL through Pacbell (on linux of course :) , and they haven't given me
this kind of nonsense. Mind you, they don't go so far as to SUPPORT
linux, but at least they leave us alone to run what we want. Good luck
on your complaint; judging from the existence of my connectivity and
such resources as the ADSL HOWTO, there is no technical grounds
WHATSOEVER for their policy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Subject: Re: GTE, DSL and Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 03:32:13 -0600
Here in comp.os.linux.networking, Stephen Carville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
spake unto us, saying:
>Had anyone else had similar experiences with their Telco refusing to
>install DSL is you are running a forbidden system?
USWest gave me no problems at all. I did the hardware installation
myself, and when they asked me up front what I needed (and offered me
some miscellaenous software), I mentioned that I'd be using Linux and
they said that they'd just send me the generic package with no Windows
or Mac software.
Also, my ISP doesn't seem to care what people use (though being Solaris
bigots, they don't seem to have a high opinion of Linux, and in some
ways rightly so).
>Am I missing something about the technology or is this just Telco
>bullheadedness.
Methinks you've encountered the latter.
--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
OS/2 + Linux (Slackware+RedHat+SuSE) + FreeBSD + Solaris +
WinNT4 + Win95 + PC/GEOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
DOS=HIGH... I knew it was on something!
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From: Nickolay Kuzmin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux --> Company NT RAS - Can it be done?
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 12:15:25 +0600
Lawrence Harris wrote:
>
<<<.>>>
>
> We use a RAS server for dialup and a PPTP server for over the internet
> access. I have been trying to get linux to log into one or the other and have
> not yet succeeded. I am just now comiling ppp-2.3.5 to see if that solves my
> problems.
>
There shall be no problems dialing into NT RAS, unless you tag
'require MS-encrypted authentication'.
<<<.>>>
--
The next day is never so good as the day before.
Publis Syrus 42 BC, Maxim 815.
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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Routing Question (NEWBIE)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:16:54 -0800
John Smith wrote:
> I am trying to use my Redhat 5.2 box to route internet information. I
> have a strange need though. I want all computers (5) on 192.168.0.x to
> have direct internet access to all ports (HTTP, FTP, Games(2000-40000))
> so a proxy is out. The host computer has a 10base connection direct to
> the internet. (At Auburn University, AL) The computer is not behind a
> firewall.
>
> Is this possible, at all? With Linux, Unix NT or the like? Any input
> would be appreciated, as I am new to this.
This can be done (I believe) with ipfwadm. I'm using IP Masquerading
through ipfwadm to route www, and ftp requests on my internal
192.168.202.x network. So far, I haven't had any problems. For some info
on how to set it up, check out http://www.xos.nl/linux/ipfwadm/paper/ .
Unless I'm totally off base, and I may well be : -) you should be able to
masquerade any port you want.
Note: Signature stolen from some other poor schmuck
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Unix had menus and icons before M$DO$ even had a decent memory manager.
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From: "Eddie Tan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Redhat vs. Slackware
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 14:23:36 +0800
take slackware...
James Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>Iven Connary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> I'm looking to set up a firewall/NAT linux box for my network, and need
>> to pick a distribution.
>
>If it's doing firewall/NAT, are we talking about application level
>proxying, or just ipfwadm-level packet filtering? If the latter, then
>the distribution doesn't matter since only the kernel code is involved.
>
>--
>ACTUALLY reachable as @free-lunch.demon.(whitehouse)co.uk:james+usenet
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Knott)
Crossposted-To:
comp.dcom.lans.ethernet,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.win95
Subject: Re: Connect without hub
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 17:47:32 -0500
Reply-To: James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jerry Mendes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I may be wrong, but I believe 10BaseT and 10/100 cards need to see a "Link Beat"
>signal from a hub before they will work; therefore, a simple crossover cable
>won't work.
Please don't tell that to my two computers, currently connected via
crossover cable. They might stop talking! ;-)
--
E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
_________________________________________________________________________
The above opinions are my own and not those of ISM Corp., a subsidiary of
IBM Canada Ltd.
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From: Hazim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Apache web page not accessible from outside
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 18:22:27 -0500
Hi there.... i'm having a really dumb problem here....
My Apache server is up and running, except that... if i put in the
address 127.0.0.1 (local machine address) in netscape only will the page
launch. What about the dynamic ip address given to me by my ISP? For
example... when I connect to the Internet.. i'd get an IP which is like,
202.188.23.4. How can people reach my web server using that address?
I've set the bind address in the httpd.conf file to match the dynamic IP
each time a new PPP connection is made... and also after that.. i
restarted the apache server, using kill -HUP `cat /var/run/httpd.pid` .
What other settings must I change?
Thank you in advance.....
Hazim.
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