Linux-Networking Digest #223, Volume #10 Tue, 16 Feb 99 21:13:42 EST
Contents:
Re: NEED HELP WITH SHARED FOLDERS (Ed Szynaka)
Re: Machine name themes - what do you use? ("Robert Barnette")
Re: Machine name themes - what do you use? (Adam Thompson)
Re: 2 ip segments on one physical segment (Luca Filipozzi)
Re: 2 ip segments on one physical segment (Ed Szynaka)
FTP on masquerade (Michael Johnson)
Sharing floppy/zip/printer/internet on Linux machine with iMac (Craig Comerford)
DNS, 2zones, 1 works, other works sometimes.... (Arnold Rosenbloom)
Re: Machine name themes - what do you use? (Andrew Gabriel)
Re: FTP on masquerade (Luca Filipozzi)
Re: Clean Up lost+found (Clifford Kite)
Re: Please help! (Clifford Kite)
Re: pppd not setting up default route in routing table (Clifford Kite)
Another smart idea from Intel ("Ian Payne")
Re: Ethernet Cards : Configuring for 2 (Michael John Erskine)
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From: Ed Szynaka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NEED HELP WITH SHARED FOLDERS
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 20:02:20 -0500
Folders? I don't seem to remember computers being used as filing
cabinets.
Deny read access to the world. chmod 740 will get you write for the
owner read for the group and nothing for the rest.
JOEYDINE wrote:
>
> i'm using 5.1 ver of linux and i want to configure my shared folders...i
> assigned a folder to my accounting group and i do not want other group to see
> that folder..is that possible???? please help me...
>
> email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Robert Barnette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
vmsnet.networks.misc,microsoft.public.windowsnt.domain,comp.unix.solaris,comp.os.os2.networking.server,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.admin.networking,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.protocols.tcp-ip.domains
Subject: Re: Machine name themes - what do you use?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 14:23:38 GMT
Name themes...
You could go with some of these...
The Simpsons Characters.
The Little Rascals Characters.
The Crayola Colors (Burnt Umber???).
Biblical Heroes.
Mythological Characters.
The Planets.
Past Presidents.
Written Numbers (One, Two, Three) - Could correspond to IP's on small LAN.
Tropical Fishes.
Rocky and Bullwinkle Characters.
Rocks (granite, sandstone, etc.).
The Frat Bros. from Animal House.
The Elements.
Later,
Robert
Stuart Summerville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> Hi peoples,
>
> Just curious to know what themes you use for machine names on your
> local networks. I've heard of or used some of the following: animals,
> fruits, alcoholic beverages, artists, movie stars, & musicians. What
> about you? I'm sure there's some birarre ones being used out there....
>
> Stu.
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------
> Stuart Summerville
> Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ----------------------------------------------
>
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 14:17:51 +0000
From: Adam Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
vmsnet.networks.misc,microsoft.public.windowsnt.domain,comp.unix.solaris,comp.os.os2.networking.server,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.admin.networking,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.protocols.tcp-ip.domains
Subject: Re: Machine name themes - what do you use?
Personally, I use the names of charachters from Monty Python & The Holy Grail.
Robert Barnette wrote:
> Name themes...
>
> You could go with some of these...
>
> The Simpsons Characters.
> The Little Rascals Characters.
> The Crayola Colors (Burnt Umber???).
> Biblical Heroes.
> Mythological Characters.
> The Planets.
> Past Presidents.
> Written Numbers (One, Two, Three) - Could correspond to IP's on small LAN.
> Tropical Fishes.
> Rocky and Bullwinkle Characters.
> Rocks (granite, sandstone, etc.).
> The Frat Bros. from Animal House.
> The Elements.
>
> Later,
> Robert
>
> Stuart Summerville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > Hi peoples,
> >
> > Just curious to know what themes you use for machine names on your
> > local networks. I've heard of or used some of the following: animals,
> > fruits, alcoholic beverages, artists, movie stars, & musicians. What
> > about you? I'm sure there's some birarre ones being used out there....
> >
> > Stu.
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------
> > Stuart Summerville
> > Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > ----------------------------------------------
> >
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luca Filipozzi)
Subject: Re: 2 ip segments on one physical segment
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 17:21:32 -0800
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> There will also need to be extra processing done by the router to
> transfer the data from one logical net to the other.
> There is no real reason to have to network addresses per segment unless
> you run out of addresses and at that point you should probably create a
> new segment anyway.
>
Or expand the subnet. Lots of traffic but easily done if all the machines
get their ip address via dhcp. Change the settings, cause everything to
be rebooted and your done.
--
Luca Filipozzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: Ed Szynaka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2 ip segments on one physical segment
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 20:05:05 -0500
There will also need to be extra processing done by the router to
transfer the data from one logical net to the other.
There is no real reason to have to network addresses per segment unless
you run out of addresses and at that point you should probably create a
new segment anyway.
Walter Cardwell wrote:
>
> You can do this with a router that supports multiple IP addresses on
> each interface (Most Cisco routers do--they call it secondary
> addressing.) If your ethernet segment happens to run between two
> routers, both of them will have to support secondary addressing.
>
> Hubs don't pay any attention to IP addresses, so there should be no
> problem there.
>
> One downside is that your two IP networks still have to share bandwidth,
> since they are all using the same wire.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > One question came up with me:
> >
> > if I have 5 hosts on
> > 192.168.1.0/24
> > while another 5 hosts on
> > 192.168.2.0/24
> >
> > Can I connect these 10 hosts with one ethernet bus to one NIC to central
> > hubs or routers?
> >
> > I think I can but I'm not sure.
> >
> > Is so, what's the downside?
> >
> > Hongjun Ma (515)472-2633 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Graduate student at CS department,Maharishi University of Management
> > Fairfield, IA 52557
> >
> > -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
> > http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 20:56:11 -0500
From: Michael Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FTP on masquerade
Hello.
I have just installed RH 5.2 and have it set up as a server masquerading
for my roomate's windows machine.
Everything seems to work fine excepet that he can't FTP from any ports
other than 21.
He gets an error messsage like "Only host IP can use port command"?
Anyone have any suggestions?
Mike
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Craig Comerford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sharing floppy/zip/printer/internet on Linux machine with iMac
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:58:56 +1000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello all,
A quick question... I am fairly green to Linux/non-Linux
interconnectivity so please forgive my naivety in this regard.
(I have seen Linux/iMac cable modem etc on this newsgroup but my
question is a touch broader)
Has anyone setup (or know how viable it would be) to use a linux
box to
provide printer/floppy disk/zip disk/internet services for an
iMac?
The iMac has an ethernet port built in standard, though no floppy
drive
or (of course) parrallel port for standard (IBM type) printers.
Seeing
as though Linux will allow postscript type printing to
non-postscript
printers (I use a brother HJ-400 inkjet), perhaps the printer and
floppy
drive/zip drive/internet connection could be shared (reading ibm
format
disks, of course) with the iMac.
All devices and internet connection are currently installed and
working
fine on a Linux machine running Redhat 5.2.
I am mainly wanting to know if this can be done, or if anyone
thinks it
can't - I am not after instructions on how to do it. That I can
figure
out later :-)
Thanks in advance.
CraigC
***** Craig Comerford *****
Dial-in and Lab Support
Teaching and Learning Support Services
Queensland University of Technology
Brisbane Queensland Australia
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arnold Rosenbloom)
Subject: DNS, 2zones, 1 works, other works sometimes....
Date: 17 Feb 99 01:27:14 GMT
Just wondering if I could get some pointers for help on my setup...
I have DNS running on my system. My 2 domain names both are
at the same machine address (which also runs DNS for them :^).
One of the domains is available everywhere (ie responds to pings
telnets etc.) The other seems to be available at only some locations.
In other words, I can ping one of my domains from everywhere, the other
only from some places. Why would only one of the names be resolvable?
Thanks for your help in advance
Arnold
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Gabriel)
Crossposted-To:
vmsnet.networks.misc,microsoft.public.windowsnt.domain,comp.unix.solaris,comp.os.os2.networking.server,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.admin.networking,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.protocols.tcp-ip.domains
Subject: Re: Machine name themes - what do you use?
Date: 16 Feb 1999 23:39:37 GMT
We use fruit. Whilst there are loads of fruit, we have
a lot of machines. When someone asks for a new machine,
I say yes sure, when you've thought of a new fruit name
we havn't used. Sometimes, they never come back :-)
Another office is full of keen train spotters, and their
machines are named after trains. I would never have
drempt there were so many different trains mind you :-(
One office I delt with had Snowwhite as the fileserver
and clients were from the 7 dwaf names. That could be
a problem if you're a growing company but they were
shrinking so it was OK. Strange thing was when they
got down to just one machine left, it was one of the
dwafs...
In the early days of the X.500 directory, it was
traditional to name your directory after an endangered
species. I remember a number of occasions where
university computing departments spent some time trying
to persaude the registrar's office to let them have all
the staff/student info to load into their X.500 DSA's.
Having finally convinced them this was a serious
exercise, the registrar's office would then discover
the DSA was called 'Three toed sloath' or somesuch,
decide they'd made a mistake and it was just some post-
grads pissing around, and refuse to supply the data.
--
Andrew Gabriel
Consultant Software Engineer
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luca Filipozzi)
Subject: Re: FTP on masquerade
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 17:57:22 -0800
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
> Hello.
>
> I have just installed RH 5.2 and have it set up as a server masquerading
> for my roomate's windows machine.
> Everything seems to work fine excepet that he can't FTP from any ports
> other than 21.
> He gets an error messsage like "Only host IP can use port command"?
>
> Anyone have any suggestions?
>
> Mike
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
you need to use the ip_masq_ftp module or you can try putting his ftp
client in passive mode
--
Luca Filipozzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clifford Kite)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.hardware,ahn.tech.linux
Subject: Re: Clean Up lost+found
Date: 16 Feb 1999 08:33:49 -0600
Jayasuthan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hi,
: Lately I had a consider massive file corruption .. lucky that none
: critical file corrupted. I could restore from backup but before that I
: need some help. How can I clean up lost+found files.. < I don't want it
: >. Two thos corrupted files ... how can I remove went "rm" doesn't works. The
:corrupted file is in device format linux file under /dev/.
Here is an old post on this subject. I haven't had an occasion to use
the technique described and disclaim any responsibility for whatever
happens when you use it.
---
Subject: Re: Removing files from /lost+found
>
>These will be corrupt, immuable, device inodes. You can only get rid
>of them with a low-level filesystem editor (see previous posts on the
>topic) as chattr does not work on device inodes for non-existant
>devices.
The only way to really clear these is to boot up single user
mode with the disk unmounted (or mounted read-only if it's the
root filesystem). Make a list of the file (The #nnnn number is
the inode number, you can confirm this by doing ls -i) inodes
into a file. Edit the file so that it's a list of commands like
clri <inode-number>
With with <inode-number> replaced by the inode number of
the file, of course. You can do this by...
cd /lost+found ; ls -i | awk '{print $1}' | sed -e '1,$ s/^/clri /'
>script_file
Then run debugfs with the -w and -f option to clear the inodes.
When debugfs exits, run a full e2fsck. This should detect the now
unreferenced files from lost+found and remove them.
debugfs -w -f script_file
e2fsck -fvy /dev/...
I had a machine once that use to mangle the news spool once a
week (turned out to be memory problems). Anyway this proceedure
became second nature.
Oh yeah, almost forgot the disclaimer. What you are about to do
is serious black magic so anything you trash is your own
responsibly. :) Make sure to read up the man pages first.
: This problem cause under Kernel 2.2.0 ... hdparm -m8 is consider a
: dangerous option. Please watchout !
--
Clifford Kite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Not a guru. (tm)
/* Microsoft is a great marketing organization.
* It _has_ to be */
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clifford Kite)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Please help!
Date: 16 Feb 1999 08:20:40 -0600
jack wallen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: i've posted a couple of times without success. i'm having difficulty
: with my modem locking up on me. it usually happens during a disconnect.
: i'll run my disconnect script and the modem just locks up. so far the
: only solution i have found is powering down the computer. i always
: thought that one of the beauties of linux was that you could avoid that.
I would bet that all modems lockup occasionly - mine does, but not more
than 3-4 times a year. Its not an OS thing, its a hardware thing.
If yours is doing this more than once a month, with no power hiccups
associated with the hangup, you should consider getting a new modem.
You pay extra for an external modem but then you can just turn it off
and on without the need to powerdown the computer.
--
Clifford Kite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Not a guru. (tm)
/* Better is the enemy of good enough. */
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clifford Kite)
Subject: Re: pppd not setting up default route in routing table
Date: 16 Feb 1999 08:07:19 -0600
Ray Benjamin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: When I look at the routing table using 'route -nr', I see that a default
: route hasn't been set up. If I check the pppd process, I see that pppd was
: started with the defaultroute argument. My assumption is that the lack of a
: default route is causing my problem, but I don't know how to fix it. I've
You have an existing default route to the LAN, it's not necessary since
a network route will work quite well. Remove this default route and pppd,
with the defaultroute option, will create a default route through the
PPP interface. But even with this option pppd won't replace an existing
route.
I can't tell you what to change by using RH configuration scripts though.
--
Clifford Kite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Not a guru. (tm)
/* Speak softly and carry a +6 two-handed sword. */
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From: "Ian Payne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Another smart idea from Intel
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 14:57:07 GMT
Now there trying to get cable modem manufacturers to build "host based"
cable modems. As if winmodems didn't suck enough, now they want
winCABLEmodems.
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 15:05:55 +0000
From: Michael John Erskine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ethernet Cards : Configuring for 2
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Colin McQueen wrote:
> Hi
> I am a novice taking over the linux boxes in a school.
> We have slackware 2.0.35 on a P200 box
> We have 2 ethernet cards.
> 1 is a 3COM Fast Etherlink XL
> 2 is a RealTek RTL8029 PCI
>
> As far as I can tell the 3COM is configured with ifconfig as eth0
> The RealTek works when I boot to NT (dual boot machine) but is not
> showing up on the Linux side. I think it may need to be ifconfig'd
> using eth1 but does the kernel have to recognise it first ?
Hello Colin;
The kernel does have to see it first. You can check this in
/var/log/messages or /var/log/daemon.log. If it is seeing both cards
they will both be reported by the drivers during boot up. If it does
not see the RealTek you may have to open the box and get the
configuration information and recompile the kernel to support it. Once
it does see both cards you will need to ifconfig the second card and
give it a different address from the first card. I think it is
worthwhile to point out here that the second card will not be really
usefull unless you are going to build a firewall or make the Linux box
into a router. I mean I suppose you could use it for something but
unless you are heavily loaded on the first card, it's just a lot of
trouble in most cases.
One thing a second card is good for is to put an IPX interface on the
system. You might find that usefull if you are running Netware clients
on your network.
Good Day,
Michael
> How do I do that ? Can it be done without recompiling ?
>
> I am very much a novice so please don't assume I know anything :)
>
> I'd appreciate help.
>
> --
>
> Colin McQueen : Network Manager at The Romsey School
> Web : http://www.romseyschool.org.uk/
> http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/cmcqueen/
> Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Michael Erskine
Simply Computers! Systems Consulting, Systems Security, Networking
Urbanna, Virginia
(804)776-6662
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Colin McQueen wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>Hi
<BR>I am a novice taking over the linux boxes in a school.
<BR>We have slackware 2.0.35 on a P200 box
<BR>We have 2 ethernet cards.
<BR>1 is a 3COM Fast Etherlink XL
<BR>2 is a RealTek RTL8029 PCI
<P>As far as I can tell the 3COM is configured with ifconfig as eth0
<BR>The RealTek works when I boot to NT (dual boot machine) but is not
<BR>showing up on the Linux side. I think it may need to be ifconfig'd
<BR>using eth1 but does the kernel have to recognise it first ?</BLOCKQUOTE>
<FONT FACE="Arial,Helvetica"><FONT COLOR="#000099"><FONT SIZE=+1>Hello
Colin;</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial,Helvetica"><FONT COLOR="#000099"><FONT
SIZE=+1></FONT></FONT></FONT>
<P><FONT FACE="Arial,Helvetica"><FONT COLOR="#000099"><FONT SIZE=+1>The
kernel does have to see it first. You can check this in /var/log/messages
or /var/log/daemon.log. If it is seeing both cards they will both
be reported by the drivers during boot up. If it does not see the
RealTek you may have to open the box and get the configuration information
and recompile the kernel to support it. Once it does see both cards
you will need to ifconfig the second card and give it a different address
from the first card. I think it is worthwhile to point out
here that the second card will not be really usefull unless you are going
to build a firewall or make the Linux box into a router. I mean I
suppose you could use it for something but unless you are heavily loaded
on the first card, it's just a lot of trouble in most
cases.</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial,Helvetica"><FONT COLOR="#000099"><FONT
SIZE=+1></FONT></FONT></FONT>
<P><FONT FACE="Arial,Helvetica"><FONT COLOR="#000099"><FONT SIZE=+1>One
thing a second card is good for is to put an IPX interface on the system.
You might find that usefull if you are running Netware clients on your
network.</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial,Helvetica"><FONT COLOR="#000099"><FONT
SIZE=+1></FONT></FONT></FONT>
<P><FONT FACE="Arial,Helvetica"><FONT COLOR="#000099"><FONT SIZE=+1>Good
Day,</FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial,Helvetica"><FONT COLOR="#000099"><FONT
SIZE=+1></FONT></FONT></FONT>
<P><FONT FACE="Arial,Helvetica"><FONT COLOR="#000099"><FONT
SIZE=+1>Michael</FONT></FONT></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>
<P>How do I do that ? Can it be done without recompiling ?
<P>I am very much a novice so please don't assume I know anything :)
<P>I'd appreciate help.
<P>--
<P>Colin McQueen : Network Manager at The Romsey School
<BR>Web : <A
HREF="http://www.romseyschool.org.uk/">http://www.romseyschool.org.uk/</A>
<BR> <A
HREF="http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/cmcqueen/">http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/cmcqueen/</A>
<BR>Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]</BLOCKQUOTE>
<PRE>--
Michael Erskine
Simply Computers! Systems Consulting, Systems Security, Networking
Urbanna, Virginia
(804)776-6662</PRE>
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