Linux-Networking Digest #710, Volume #10 Fri, 2 Apr 99 00:13:54 EST
Contents:
Re: Newbie to Linux (garv)
Re: trying to route a home LAN to the Net (Hannu)
Re: Help me spend $2,000 on a new Linux-based computer ("David Lloyd-Jones")
Re: What is the best Linux to install? (jedi)
Re: RedHat Lousy Support ("D. C. Sessions")
Re: MS-LINUX ("Dan M. Johnson (LinuxBox1)(bagzman)")
MS-LINUX ("TURBO1010")
Re: Setting up *non-default* routes through ppp0 (Walter Hunt)
Re: Windoze 98 can see Linux...but.... ("jeff")
Re: MS-LINUX (Jody Walker)
Re: RedHat 5.2 internet server ("Terry Mathews")
Re: Network Card ("Klas Eliasson")
What ethernet driver? (Colin Doncaster)
News Readers ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: garv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie to Linux
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 17:17:56 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Whats a good place to visit to acquire information about configuring Linux on
> a PC? After the installation is done.
>
It might help if you mentioned distribution you installed
and where you want to go today.
What do you want to configure?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hannu)
Subject: Re: trying to route a home LAN to the Net
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 02:49:03 GMT
On 31 Mar 1999 08:41:48 +0100, Brian McCauley
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hannu) writes:
>
>> If I understand this correct, I don't need a route command at all,
>> the IP forwarding/masquerading will do all?
>
>That is correct, you do not need to touch the routing table on the
>Linux box that is acting as a gateway.
>
>You do need to specify the Linux box as the default gateway on all the
>other machines on the LAN. This is, in effect, issuing a route command
>on those boxes.
Success! That did it right away!
ipfwadm -F -a m -S 192.168.1.0/24 -D 0.0.0.0/0
and it started working fast and so far reliable.
After a little refining of the hosts files and named in the Linux box,
the Win box is actually faster on the Net than it was through it's own
dial-up (because the names get solved in the LAN).
There seems to be a confufion with the FTP packets coming back, but
I think I saw a fix on this news group already!
Thanks for your help!
Hannu
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From: "David Lloyd-Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Help me spend $2,000 on a new Linux-based computer
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 17:20:19 -0500
<d s f o x @ c o g s c i . u c s d . e d u (David Fox)> wrote >
> That's not correct. There are just a few million receptors in your
> eyes,
As against say 768X1024 (is it?) = 3/4ths of a meg pixels on the screen.
> but the resolution is highly concentrated in the center of
your
> field of vision. Eye motion creates the experience of a large area of
> high resolution.
Even if you didn't do-the-pigeon, your concentrated area sitting still would
be bored by a normal screen.
> But you're right about lots of big monitors being cool.
Here we agree.
FWIW, I was asked to be keynote speaker of the National Students Association
Annual Conference a few years ago, and I did it with 24 Carousel projectors,
six movie projectors and about five horsepower of backup sound, with a 50' x
150' screen wrapped around the audience. Nobody complained about being
assaulted, so I take that as being a first approximation of normal
information intake. :-)
-dlj.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jedi)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: What is the best Linux to install?
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 17:08:23 -0800
On 31 Mar 1999 23:16:38 GMT, bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Graham Daniell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>| RedHat - the boxed set - by far the easiest to install.
>
>Haven't tried Mandrake, have you?
Mandrake ~ Redhat. They say so on their homepage.
--
"I was not elected to watch my people suffer and die |||
while you discuss this a invasion in committe." / | \
In search of sane PPP docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com
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From: "D. C. Sessions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RedHat Lousy Support
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 16:34:40 -0700
Allen wrote:
>
> I just had my paid support treatment today after 36 hours waiting...
>
> Question:
> I have just installed a 2nd NIC on my RedHat 5.2. I added an entry in
> /etc/config.modules for this EtherExpress 16 ISA card (same as the 1st NIC)
> and rebooted the PC. It is now hung on bootup.
>
> How do I stop the hanging? (ie. be able to log in again without reinstalling
> RedHat).
So what are the IDs for the two cards? (IOW, have you told
the system which is eth1 and which is eth0?) Two identical
NICs is quite a bit trickier than two NICs of different species.
(Which is why all of my two-NIC systems have heterogenous NICs)
--
D. C. Sessions
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Dan M. Johnson (LinuxBox1)(bagzman)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.protocols.smb
Subject: Re: MS-LINUX
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 19:24:04 -0800
What the bloody?! Heh, tell Linus that I'm sticking with RedHat
-Dan-
TURBO1010 wrote:
> hought you might like an early peek at this. It'll be going out over
> the wire shortly.
>
> Microsoft Announces MS-Linux
>
> The flexible "grassroots" operating system, now with the quality and
> enterprise-level service and support customers expect from Microsoft
>
> REDMOND, Wash., April 1 /PRNewswire/ -- Microsoft Corp. today announced
> the forthcoming release of MS-Linux(R), a new version of the well-known
> Linux(R) operating system designed for the enterprise.
>
> "Prior to the development of MS-Linux, enterprise customers wouldn't
> dream of deploying mission-critical applications on an unsupported
> operating
> system," said Jim Allchin, senior vice president of Microsoft's personal
> and
> business systems group. "All that has now changed."
>
> Maximum compatibility and performance
>
> While other versions of Linux offer a variety of immature and largely
> incompatible windowing environments, MS-Linux includes an implementation
> of
> the familiar Microsoft(R) Windows(R) desktop, minimizing corporate
> training
> costs and allowing the hundreds of millions of Windows users worldwide
> to be
> productive right away.
>
> MS-Linux provides a complete implementation of the Win32(R) API,
> enabling many of the thousands of applications written for the Microsoft
> Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows NT(R), and Windows 2000 operating
> systems to
> run unchanged on MS-Linux. Microsoft will offer support for future
> releases
> of the Microsoft Office suite of productivity applications and the
> BackOffice family of server products running on MS-Linux. In addition,
> many
> existing MS-DOS(R) and SCO Unix programs will run on MS-Linux without
> modification. Benchmark tests performed by independent laboratories have
> shown that MS-Linux is the world's fastest Windows file server.
>
> A groundswell of support from industry
>
> A number of leading development tool vendors will announce support for
> MS-Linux, including Bristol Technology Inc., Compuware Corp., Cygnus
> Solutions, Fujitsu Microelectronics Inc., Intel Corp., Metrowerks Inc.,
> Rational Software Corp., Sybase Inc., and Tower Technology.
>
> "The new Linux distribution from Microsoft gives the operating system
> the credibility it needs to gain a foothold in organizations where it
> has
> never gone before," said Jon Hall, Executive Director of Linux
> International, a non-profit Linux advocacy organization. Microsoft will
> become a corporate member of Linux International, and will make a
> substantial donation of funds and equipment to the organization. "Linux
> International looks forward to working with Microsoft for the benefit of
> current and future Linux users," added Hall.
>
> According to VA Research President and CEO Larry Augustin, "VA Research
> is delighted that Microsoft is entering the fast-growing market for
> computers powered by Linux." VA Research has announced plans to bundle
> MS-Linux and selected Microsoft Office and BackOffice products with its
> powerful server, workstation, and laptop computers. VA Research has also
> agreed to make Microsoft its exclusive supplier of Linux-based operating
> systems going forward. "Having the Office and BackOffice suites running
> on
> computers from VA Research will give us a huge advantage in the
> marketplace," said Augustin.
>
> Microsoft has engaged well-known author and programmer Eric S. Raymond
> to advise the company on certain intellectual property issues related to
> Linux. Raymond's paper "The Cathedral of the Bizarre" was a key factor
> in
> Microsoft's decision to develop a Linux product. "While Microsoft will
> not
> immediately release the source code for its version of Linux, the
> company
> has promised to do so eventually," said Raymond. "That's good enough for
> me."
>
> "The Linux community and Microsoft are a great fit," says Linus
> Torvalds, creator of Linux. "After all, we both have the same goal,
> which is
> total world domination."
>
> Separately, Microsoft has announced the opening of a new recruiting
> center in Research Triangle Park, North Carolina. "Microsoft is always
> looking for talented individuals to join our team," said Mike Murray,
> Microsoft's vice president of human resources and administration. "We
> often
> recruit in communities that are expected to have significant numbers of
> folks looking for work in the near future."
>
> Pricing and availability
>
> Microsoft expects to release English and international versions of
> MS-Linux Version 3.1 for Intel- and RISC-based computers on or before
> April
> 1, 2000. Pricing has not been announced.
>
> About Microsoft
> Founded in 1975, Microsoft (Nasdaq: MSFT) is the worldwide leader in
> software for personal computers. The company offers a wide range of
> products
> and services, each designed with the mission of making it easier and
> more
> enjoyable to take advantage of people using personal computers every
> day.
>
> Microsoft, Windows, Windows NT, Win32, BackOffice, MS-Linux, and Linux
> are either registered trademarks or trademarks of Microsoft Corp. in the
> United States and/or other countries. Other product and company names
> herein
> may be trademarks of their respective owners.
> Happy Surfing,
------------------------------
From: "TURBO1010" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.protocols.smb
Subject: MS-LINUX
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 18:53:43 -0800
hought you might like an early peek at this. It'll be going out over
the wire shortly.
Microsoft Announces MS-Linux
The flexible "grassroots" operating system, now with the quality and
enterprise-level service and support customers expect from Microsoft
REDMOND, Wash., April 1 /PRNewswire/ -- Microsoft Corp. today announced
the forthcoming release of MS-Linux(R), a new version of the well-known
Linux(R) operating system designed for the enterprise.
"Prior to the development of MS-Linux, enterprise customers wouldn't
dream of deploying mission-critical applications on an unsupported
operating
system," said Jim Allchin, senior vice president of Microsoft's personal
and
business systems group. "All that has now changed."
Maximum compatibility and performance
While other versions of Linux offer a variety of immature and largely
incompatible windowing environments, MS-Linux includes an implementation
of
the familiar Microsoft(R) Windows(R) desktop, minimizing corporate
training
costs and allowing the hundreds of millions of Windows users worldwide
to be
productive right away.
MS-Linux provides a complete implementation of the Win32(R) API,
enabling many of the thousands of applications written for the Microsoft
Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows NT(R), and Windows 2000 operating
systems to
run unchanged on MS-Linux. Microsoft will offer support for future
releases
of the Microsoft Office suite of productivity applications and the
BackOffice family of server products running on MS-Linux. In addition,
many
existing MS-DOS(R) and SCO Unix programs will run on MS-Linux without
modification. Benchmark tests performed by independent laboratories have
shown that MS-Linux is the world's fastest Windows file server.
A groundswell of support from industry
A number of leading development tool vendors will announce support for
MS-Linux, including Bristol Technology Inc., Compuware Corp., Cygnus
Solutions, Fujitsu Microelectronics Inc., Intel Corp., Metrowerks Inc.,
Rational Software Corp., Sybase Inc., and Tower Technology.
"The new Linux distribution from Microsoft gives the operating system
the credibility it needs to gain a foothold in organizations where it
has
never gone before," said Jon Hall, Executive Director of Linux
International, a non-profit Linux advocacy organization. Microsoft will
become a corporate member of Linux International, and will make a
substantial donation of funds and equipment to the organization. "Linux
International looks forward to working with Microsoft for the benefit of
current and future Linux users," added Hall.
According to VA Research President and CEO Larry Augustin, "VA Research
is delighted that Microsoft is entering the fast-growing market for
computers powered by Linux." VA Research has announced plans to bundle
MS-Linux and selected Microsoft Office and BackOffice products with its
powerful server, workstation, and laptop computers. VA Research has also
agreed to make Microsoft its exclusive supplier of Linux-based operating
systems going forward. "Having the Office and BackOffice suites running
on
computers from VA Research will give us a huge advantage in the
marketplace," said Augustin.
Microsoft has engaged well-known author and programmer Eric S. Raymond
to advise the company on certain intellectual property issues related to
Linux. Raymond's paper "The Cathedral of the Bizarre" was a key factor
in
Microsoft's decision to develop a Linux product. "While Microsoft will
not
immediately release the source code for its version of Linux, the
company
has promised to do so eventually," said Raymond. "That's good enough for
me."
"The Linux community and Microsoft are a great fit," says Linus
Torvalds, creator of Linux. "After all, we both have the same goal,
which is
total world domination."
Separately, Microsoft has announced the opening of a new recruiting
center in Research Triangle Park, North Carolina. "Microsoft is always
looking for talented individuals to join our team," said Mike Murray,
Microsoft's vice president of human resources and administration. "We
often
recruit in communities that are expected to have significant numbers of
folks looking for work in the near future."
Pricing and availability
Microsoft expects to release English and international versions of
MS-Linux Version 3.1 for Intel- and RISC-based computers on or before
April
1, 2000. Pricing has not been announced.
About Microsoft
Founded in 1975, Microsoft (Nasdaq: MSFT) is the worldwide leader in
software for personal computers. The company offers a wide range of
products
and services, each designed with the mission of making it easier and
more
enjoyable to take advantage of people using personal computers every
day.
Microsoft, Windows, Windows NT, Win32, BackOffice, MS-Linux, and Linux
are either registered trademarks or trademarks of Microsoft Corp. in the
United States and/or other countries. Other product and company names
herein
may be trademarks of their respective owners.
Happy Surfing,
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Walter Hunt)
Subject: Re: Setting up *non-default* routes through ppp0
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 00:09:47 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Brian McCauley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clifford Kite) writes:
>
>> Walter Hunt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>>
>> : to access hosts through ppp0, but not exactly what. For my purposes, I'd be
>> : happy just to be able to route anything to 199.182.120.255 through ppp0.
>>
>> You might try
>>
>> /sbin/route add -net 199.182.120.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 dev ppp0
>>
>> in /etc/ppp/ip-up.
>
> Better still replace "ppp0" with $1, just in case it's not ppp0.
>
Well, as I said in the original post, I tried all those routing
combinations. As far as I can tell, the routing seems to be working, but
anything attempting to *use* the interface gets that weird "sendto: Operation
not permitted" error.
This is the part that confuses me. Before I added the cable modem access,
I never had *any* problems with the ppp interface, now I can't even do a ping.
--
Walter
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From: "jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windoze 98 can see Linux...but....
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 18:29:26 -0800
That's a good book. You should get it.
But in the mean time do a man on 'smb.conf'
good luck
Steve Rollinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Ok, another newbie question.
>
> Somehow, after installing Samba and stuffing around, I managed to get
> Windoze 98 to see my Linux (redhat 5.1) machine on my local network
> (only two machines so far through a 10Mb hub). I have no idea how I
> achieved this, somehow it just worked.
>
> There is something I still can't work out. The W98 box (which is called
> Damien :) sees two resources that I can connect to in the network
> neighborhood under the linux box. One is \\linuxbox\tmp and the other is
> \\linuxbox\a_username
>
> What is the file that these shares/resources get defined in on the linux
> box?
>
> I can see the files in the "tmp" share - but I suspect that this is
> because I have /tmp path defined in the smb.conf, however, the
> a_username share is asking for a password when I try to open it, and I
> did set up a linux user account for a_username with no password.
>
> (I think I'll order that Paul Sery book "Linux Network Toolkit"
> tomorrow.)
>
> Any clues?
>
> thanks
>
> Steve Rollinson
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 23:20:06 -0500
From: Jody Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.protocols.smb
Subject: Re: MS-LINUX
I see Bill is still trying to take over the world. Silly Silly Bill you
shouldn't mess with things you don't understand. If I want an OS that
crashes every five minutes then I will come to you.
TURBO1010 wrote:
> hought you might like an early peek at this. It'll be going out over
> the wire shortly.
>
> Microsoft Announces MS-Linux
>
> The flexible "grassroots" operating system, now with the quality and
> enterprise-level service and support customers expect from Microsoft
>
> REDMOND, Wash., April 1 /PRNewswire/ -- Microsoft Corp. today announced
> the forthcoming release of MS-Linux(R), a new version of the well-known
> Linux(R) operating system designed for the enterprise.
>
> "Prior to the development of MS-Linux, enterprise customers wouldn't
> dream of deploying mission-critical applications on an unsupported
> operating
> system," said Jim Allchin, senior vice president of Microsoft's personal
> and
> business systems group. "All that has now changed."
>
> Maximum compatibility and performance
>
> While other versions of Linux offer a variety of immature and largely
> incompatible windowing environments, MS-Linux includes an implementation
> of
> the familiar Microsoft(R) Windows(R) desktop, minimizing corporate
> training
> costs and allowing the hundreds of millions of Windows users worldwide
> to be
> productive right away.
>
> MS-Linux provides a complete implementation of the Win32(R) API,
> enabling many of the thousands of applications written for the Microsoft
> Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows NT(R), and Windows 2000 operating
> systems to
> run unchanged on MS-Linux. Microsoft will offer support for future
> releases
> of the Microsoft Office suite of productivity applications and the
> BackOffice family of server products running on MS-Linux. In addition,
> many
> existing MS-DOS(R) and SCO Unix programs will run on MS-Linux without
> modification. Benchmark tests performed by independent laboratories have
> shown that MS-Linux is the world's fastest Windows file server.
>
> A groundswell of support from industry
>
> A number of leading development tool vendors will announce support for
> MS-Linux, including Bristol Technology Inc., Compuware Corp., Cygnus
> Solutions, Fujitsu Microelectronics Inc., Intel Corp., Metrowerks Inc.,
> Rational Software Corp., Sybase Inc., and Tower Technology.
>
> "The new Linux distribution from Microsoft gives the operating system
> the credibility it needs to gain a foothold in organizations where it
> has
> never gone before," said Jon Hall, Executive Director of Linux
> International, a non-profit Linux advocacy organization. Microsoft will
> become a corporate member of Linux International, and will make a
> substantial donation of funds and equipment to the organization. "Linux
> International looks forward to working with Microsoft for the benefit of
> current and future Linux users," added Hall.
>
> According to VA Research President and CEO Larry Augustin, "VA Research
> is delighted that Microsoft is entering the fast-growing market for
> computers powered by Linux." VA Research has announced plans to bundle
> MS-Linux and selected Microsoft Office and BackOffice products with its
> powerful server, workstation, and laptop computers. VA Research has also
> agreed to make Microsoft its exclusive supplier of Linux-based operating
> systems going forward. "Having the Office and BackOffice suites running
> on
> computers from VA Research will give us a huge advantage in the
> marketplace," said Augustin.
>
> Microsoft has engaged well-known author and programmer Eric S. Raymond
> to advise the company on certain intellectual property issues related to
> Linux. Raymond's paper "The Cathedral of the Bizarre" was a key factor
> in
> Microsoft's decision to develop a Linux product. "While Microsoft will
> not
> immediately release the source code for its version of Linux, the
> company
> has promised to do so eventually," said Raymond. "That's good enough for
> me."
>
> "The Linux community and Microsoft are a great fit," says Linus
> Torvalds, creator of Linux. "After all, we both have the same goal,
> which is
> total world domination."
>
> Separately, Microsoft has announced the opening of a new recruiting
> center in Research Triangle Park, North Carolina. "Microsoft is always
> looking for talented individuals to join our team," said Mike Murray,
> Microsoft's vice president of human resources and administration. "We
> often
> recruit in communities that are expected to have significant numbers of
> folks looking for work in the near future."
>
> Pricing and availability
>
> Microsoft expects to release English and international versions of
> MS-Linux Version 3.1 for Intel- and RISC-based computers on or before
> April
> 1, 2000. Pricing has not been announced.
>
> About Microsoft
> Founded in 1975, Microsoft (Nasdaq: MSFT) is the worldwide leader in
> software for personal computers. The company offers a wide range of
> products
> and services, each designed with the mission of making it easier and
> more
> enjoyable to take advantage of people using personal computers every
> day.
>
> Microsoft, Windows, Windows NT, Win32, BackOffice, MS-Linux, and Linux
> are either registered trademarks or trademarks of Microsoft Corp. in the
> United States and/or other countries. Other product and company names
> herein
> may be trademarks of their respective owners.
> Happy Surfing,
------------------------------
From: "Terry Mathews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RedHat 5.2 internet server
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 22:01:38 -0500
Oh yeah, almost forgot. I've got this script that will keep my internet
connection alive that I want to run every 5 minutes. I tried running
crontab -e like the howto says, but it doesn't appear to work in RedHat 5.2
my config is stock, brand-new off the CDs. I get an error saying something
to the effect that vi isn't where it should be... If someone would shed some
light on this or tell me how to add a line to the cron file, it would be
appreciated.
Terry Mathews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7dun9h$lhj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I've been recently thrown into the task of running an internet server
> utilizing only 2 phone lines, 2 static IPs, 2 486/100s w/ 4 GB HDs in
each,
> 1 NIC card in each, and 2 56k modems. I am very new at Linux in general
and
> RedHat 5.2 specifically.
> I have a working RedHat server, with a working dialup connection using
> WVDial. However, it locks the terminal it is running on and won't let go
> unless you hit CTRL + C, which disconnects the modem. Is there a way to
make
> this let go of the terminal, or run as a hidden process?
> Second, I have a working web, proxy, and e-mail server. We are going to
> be adding virtual web servers. Is it worth adding virtual e-mail servers
> too, or is it too much trouble? I read the HOWTO, but it was a little over
> my head. Thanks.
> --
> ---
> Terry Mathews
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
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From: "Klas Eliasson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Network Card
Date: 1 Apr 99 15:40:23 GMT
Maby as a NE2000-compatible card....
//Klas, sweden
Marcus Meng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev i inl�gg
<7dkpng$b5p$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> Is it possible to get my Compex RL100TX Network card to work in Red Hat
> Linux 5.1?
> How do I do it?
> E-mail me the answer (If there is one). My address is
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
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From: Colin Doncaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: What ethernet driver?
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 04:26:23 GMT
I got the dhcdcp installed but my ethernet adapter isn't being
recognized. Anyone know what mod I should use for the D-Link DE-528CT?
Thanks, Colin.
--
Colin Doncaster
Animator and Technical Director
bEnT Animation
http://www.bentanimation.com
- Just Say No To NURBS -
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: News Readers
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 15:37:44 GMT
In article <7du58n$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"The Lone Scribe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ken Alta:
The email clients Outlook Express and Messenger (bundled with MSIE and
Netscape Communicator
respectively) allow term/phrase searches of subject/sender headings.
Web based:
Dejanews allows term/phrase searches of subject headings.
http://www.dejanews.com
Supernews/Remarq has the worst search function I've ever seen (presents
results in no order except newest first). It sucks and I never use it. You
can, of course, search for communities. http://www.supernews.com or
http://www.remarq.com .
Newsguy (Usenet news) requires member$hip. So, you can search just like
Dejanews. I use it more often than Deja News.
http://www.newsguy.com
But, that likely isn't what you are referring to.
What do mean, "off-line reader"? If you are referring to AOL software, I
NEVER use it, man. It's the worst one of all.
Ken Alta
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