Linux-Networking Digest #727, Volume #10 Sat, 3 Apr 99 03:13:48 EST
Contents:
Re: Best Free X Windows Server for Win95/98 Box on Samba/Linux Network? (John McKee)
Re: What is the best Linux to install? (Jon-o Addleman)
Re: Same irq on multiple ethernet card ("Amaury")
Re: MS-LINUX ("propsync")
Simple "listserver" using .forward? (Nanook)
Re: Machine name themes - what do you use? ("Sean W. Ellis")
Re: Newbie FTP Problem (Fenton Travers)
Re: DHCP and IP-Masquerade (Larry Benoit)
Re: What is the best Linux to install? (Danny Aldham)
Re: Help me spend $2,000 on a new Linux-based computer (Richard Stovall)
pppd probs (Qozmoe)
DHCP & Linux 2.2.4...? (Peter Woytiuk)
IBM auto 16/4 token-ring isa ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Hidden ethernet irqs and io addresses (Akira Yamanita)
Re: Web-Browser on Sparc-Linux (Michael Hirsch)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John McKee)
Subject: Re: Best Free X Windows Server for Win95/98 Box on Samba/Linux Network?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 05:48:07 GMT
Update:
It works just as well on Linux. Once I figured out how to get KDE as the desktop
displayed on NT,
it was almost like looking at Linux on the real machine. Works great the other way
too. Now I can
run Excel, Word, Access from the comfort of my Linux setup.
Great program, Great Price.
On Sat, 03 Apr 1999 02:18:04 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John McKee) wrote:
>Well, so far I've been able to use the product to view desktops on two NT machines.
>Now, I've got
>to shutdown one of the NT boxes, and bring up RH 5.1 to see if I can get access to NT
>from KDE and
>vice-versa. After that, I'll bring up the Win98 partition, and try it on that one.
>The one
>distracting thing I've noticed is that the mouse seems to leave little trails on the
>screen.
>Otherwise, a remarkable product - especially for FREE !!!
>
>
>On Fri, 02 Apr 1999 20:12:25 -0600, Eugene VonNiederhausern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
>>Timothy Litwiller wrote:
>>
>>> yes, please send an URL
>>>
>>> Eugene VonNiederhausern wrote:
>>>
>>> > Cyrus Mehta wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Hi,
>>> > >
>>> > > I am creating a dual Windows/Linux environment using Samba for file serving
>>> > > on a standard Ethernet network. I was wondering what kind of X server software
>>> > > for the Windows side I could use to run some X windows apps off of the LInux
>Box.
>>> > >
>>> > > Reliability is the most important factor, windows will crash often enough
>without
>>> > > the help of the X server.
>>> > >
>>> > > Any ideas?
>>> > >
>>> > > CKM
>>> >
>>> > Yesterday, I found the best X server/viewer for windows (and linux) that I have
>>> > seen yet and it is free (GNU Public License). It is called VNC from Olivetti and
>>> > Oracle research laboratory. You can connect from linux->windows, windows->linux,
>>> > linux->linux, windows->windows. It is a lot better than any of the other products
>>> > I have seen ot this kind. I don't have the URL (it is at work) you can email
>me or
>>> > post a reply and I will get it and reply.
>>
>>The URL is http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/ . Let me know what you think...
>
>John McKee
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
John McKee
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon-o Addleman)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: What is the best Linux to install?
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 20:58:07 GMT
Once upon a Thu, 01 Apr 1999 14:27:59 +0900, "Yim,SeongSoo"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I realy recommend to start with RedHat.
I still don't understand why redhat is supposed to be easier... I
found it so complicated! I couldn't find anything, or even
instructions for finding things. Debian was a snap to install, by
comparison... It REALLY doesn't make sense for Debian to have the
reputation for being for "experts". It certainly isn't MORE
challenging than Redhat.
That said, of course, anyone should use whatever they like, but so
many newbies are using Redhat and getting stuck by things that Debian
does so much more easily... hm..
--
Jon-o Addleman
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From: "Amaury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Same irq on multiple ethernet card
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 07:57:05 +0200
>-Can I or rather should I allot another irq to one of the cards and if so how?
It is a good idea to modify the settings of 1 card (like I did with mine)
The NICs must have come with a disk.
On this disk you will find (probably) DOS programs to change IRQ & IO etc.
+read the "multi ethernet mini howto"
Hope this helps
Amaury
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From: "propsync" <NOSPAM [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.protocols.smb
Subject: Re: MS-LINUX
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:24:04 -0500
This has got to be an april fools joke.
TURBO1010 wrote in message <7e1bgc$5hh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>hought you might like an early peek at this. It'll be going out over
>the wire shortly.
>
>
>
>Microsoft Announces MS-Linux
>
>
>The flexible "grassroots" operating system, now with the quality and
>enterprise-level service and support customers expect from Microsoft
>
>
>REDMOND, Wash., April 1 /PRNewswire/ -- Microsoft Corp. today announced
>the forthcoming release of MS-Linux(R), a new version of the well-known
>Linux(R) operating system designed for the enterprise.
>
>
>"Prior to the development of MS-Linux, enterprise customers wouldn't
>dream of deploying mission-critical applications on an unsupported
>operating
>system," said Jim Allchin, senior vice president of Microsoft's personal
>and
>business systems group. "All that has now changed."
>
>
>Maximum compatibility and performance
>
>
>While other versions of Linux offer a variety of immature and largely
>incompatible windowing environments, MS-Linux includes an implementation
>of
>the familiar Microsoft(R) Windows(R) desktop, minimizing corporate
>training
>costs and allowing the hundreds of millions of Windows users worldwide
>to be
>productive right away.
>
>
>MS-Linux provides a complete implementation of the Win32(R) API,
>enabling many of the thousands of applications written for the Microsoft
>Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows NT(R), and Windows 2000 operating
>systems to
>run unchanged on MS-Linux. Microsoft will offer support for future
>releases
>of the Microsoft Office suite of productivity applications and the
>BackOffice family of server products running on MS-Linux. In addition,
>many
>existing MS-DOS(R) and SCO Unix programs will run on MS-Linux without
>modification. Benchmark tests performed by independent laboratories have
>shown that MS-Linux is the world's fastest Windows file server.
>
>
>A groundswell of support from industry
>
>
>A number of leading development tool vendors will announce support for
>MS-Linux, including Bristol Technology Inc., Compuware Corp., Cygnus
>Solutions, Fujitsu Microelectronics Inc., Intel Corp., Metrowerks Inc.,
>Rational Software Corp., Sybase Inc., and Tower Technology.
>
>
>"The new Linux distribution from Microsoft gives the operating system
>the credibility it needs to gain a foothold in organizations where it
>has
>never gone before," said Jon Hall, Executive Director of Linux
>International, a non-profit Linux advocacy organization. Microsoft will
>become a corporate member of Linux International, and will make a
>substantial donation of funds and equipment to the organization. "Linux
>International looks forward to working with Microsoft for the benefit of
>current and future Linux users," added Hall.
>
>
>According to VA Research President and CEO Larry Augustin, "VA Research
>is delighted that Microsoft is entering the fast-growing market for
>computers powered by Linux." VA Research has announced plans to bundle
>MS-Linux and selected Microsoft Office and BackOffice products with its
>powerful server, workstation, and laptop computers. VA Research has also
>agreed to make Microsoft its exclusive supplier of Linux-based operating
>systems going forward. "Having the Office and BackOffice suites running
>on
>computers from VA Research will give us a huge advantage in the
>marketplace," said Augustin.
>
>
>Microsoft has engaged well-known author and programmer Eric S. Raymond
>to advise the company on certain intellectual property issues related to
>Linux. Raymond's paper "The Cathedral of the Bizarre" was a key factor
>in
>Microsoft's decision to develop a Linux product. "While Microsoft will
>not
>immediately release the source code for its version of Linux, the
>company
>has promised to do so eventually," said Raymond. "That's good enough for
>me."
>
>
>"The Linux community and Microsoft are a great fit," says Linus
>Torvalds, creator of Linux. "After all, we both have the same goal,
>which is
>total world domination."
>
>
>Separately, Microsoft has announced the opening of a new recruiting
>center in Research Triangle Park, North Carolina. "Microsoft is always
>looking for talented individuals to join our team," said Mike Murray,
>Microsoft's vice president of human resources and administration. "We
>often
>recruit in communities that are expected to have significant numbers of
>folks looking for work in the near future."
>
>
>Pricing and availability
>
>
>Microsoft expects to release English and international versions of
>MS-Linux Version 3.1 for Intel- and RISC-based computers on or before
>April
>1, 2000. Pricing has not been announced.
>
>
>About Microsoft
>Founded in 1975, Microsoft (Nasdaq: MSFT) is the worldwide leader in
>software for personal computers. The company offers a wide range of
>products
>and services, each designed with the mission of making it easier and
>more
>enjoyable to take advantage of people using personal computers every
>day.
>
>
>Microsoft, Windows, Windows NT, Win32, BackOffice, MS-Linux, and Linux
>are either registered trademarks or trademarks of Microsoft Corp. in the
>United States and/or other countries. Other product and company names
>herein
>may be trademarks of their respective owners.
> Happy Surfing,
>
>
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nanook)
Subject: Simple "listserver" using .forward?
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 07:03:35 GMT
I'm interested in setting up a simple email distribution that would serve
about 100 subscribers. I could manage this personally with elmaliases or
similar, but I would prefer that a select group of authorized individuals be
able to forward items to the list.
My thought was to create a dummy account for the list, and place subscriber
addresses in that account's .forward file. After setting up rules to restrict
incoming mail for the dummy account, authorized individuals could post new
items for distribution simply by sending mail into it.
My main objective is to ensure that all authorized individuals share a common
distribution list, to simplify list maintenance. This seems like a simple way
to do that.
Comments, suggestions?
TIA,
Nanook
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From: "Sean W. Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Machine name themes - what do you use?
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 16:56:14 -0600
I have a bank with many braches and so for each separate branch we had a
theme. One branch had a bat problem, so the machines were types of
bats: cavemyotis, graybat, vampirebat. Another branch had the parking
lot on the opposite side of the building from the lobby (mostly this
branch was for drive-through only business), so because of the walk --
shoes theme: addidas, nike, fila, reebok.
On the coast (fish): shark, clownfish, swordfish, flounder
Space mural on building across street (planets): mercury, venus, earth,
mars
Really skinny manager (weight loss/exercise): judo, tumbling, gymnastics
We had this for 16 branches ....worked great until one lady found out
her machine was hagfish.
--
Sean W. Ellis, CNE, ASE Office Systems Center
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (361) 575-6886
I am Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be approximated.
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From: Fenton Travers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Newbie FTP Problem
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 07:18:36 GMT
I have similar set up except with RH 5.1 and I needed to load the ip_masq_ftp
module. I think the module loader is called insmod and is found in /sbin so I
executed the following:
/sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.0.35-1/ipv4/ip_masq_ftp.o
you may need some variation on this tho. I 'm not sure if this is the source of
your problem
Keith Keller wrote:
> Stressed wrote:
> >
> > I have the typical Linux machine using IP masQ to connect my Windoze LAN to
> > the net via cable modem. By typical I mean I used the typical addressing
> > scheme (192.168.1.x) for the LAN and I use DHCP to get settings for my
> > gateway interface.
> >
> > I have RHL 5.2 and it runs wu FTP (wu-2.4.2-academ[BETA-18-VR13]).
> >
> > Whenever I try to connect to a remote (Internet) FTP site from a Windoze
> > machine, (going through the Linux masQ machine), I get the connection, but I
> > get the following error and I'm unable to see, send or recieve data:
> >
> > 230 User mojo7 logged in.
> > PWD
> > 257 "/home/@c/h/c/mojo7" is current directory.
> > SYST
> > 215 UNIX Type: L8
> > Host type (2): UNIX (standard)
> > PORT 192,168,1,2,4,47
> > 500 Illegal PORT Command
> > ! port cmd failed.
> > ! DoDirList failed 0
> >
> > Is this due to my masQing or to my FTP setup or both or what?
>
> Yes. :-) You need to also use the ip_masq_ftp
> option in the kernel to allow machines behind the
> masquerade ''gateway'' to FTP to the other side
> of the masquerade properly. I load it as a module
> in my startup files, though I suppose you could
> also compile the option directly into the kernel.
>
> -- Keith
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Larry Benoit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DHCP and IP-Masquerade
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 22:23:36 -0500
Yue Huang wrote:
> I used to run four Linux/Win95/NT/MAC boxes in a network using TCP/IP.
> One linux box has IP-Masquerade, is DNS and connected to the internet with PPP
> over a phone line. Everything worked well. Now I replaced the phone modem
> with a cable modem and connected to the internet with DHCPcd. The network
> does not work any more.
>
> If I do not start dhcpcd, networking is OK. Once dhcpcd starts, the IP and
> name of the linux box are changed. It can not access any other machine in
> the network, and other machines cannot connect it either.
>
> I setup another machine as DNS, but cannot solve the problem. Again, once
> dhcpcd starts, this machine is isolated from the network.
>
> How can I use the DHCP box as a gateway to the internet for the network?
> Please help.
>
> Thank you for any help.
>
> yue
You give very little information on your setup, but your DNS is not set correctly
-- it shouldn't be the
address of your Linux server, rather it is dynamically set by DHCP. You must
obtain the DNS address and then
set it for each of your PC clients. For details on how to do this see:
http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/mini/DHCP-3.html#ss3.3
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Danny Aldham)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: What is the best Linux to install?
Date: 2 Apr 1999 22:10:49 GMT
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Mike Graham ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: On Thu, 01 Apr 1999 14:27:59 +0900, Yim,SeongSoo wrote:
: >I realy recommend to start with RedHat.
: I agree with that. It seems the most 'mainstream'. I was just on their
: website and it appears that several big players (IBM, COMPAQ, etc.) have
: pumped in some capital to get in on the action. That's a very telling sign.
And I disagree. I have used RedHat since 2.1 , and Mandrake is better.
Mandrake _is_ RedHat, with the KDE installed. A nice desktop makes the
OS much friendlier to beginners. Get Mandrake if you can.
--
Danny Aldham Postino Dotcom E-mail for Business
www.postino.com Virtual Servers, Mail Lists, Web Databases, SQL & Perl
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From: Richard Stovall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Help me spend $2,000 on a new Linux-based computer
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 23:25:02 -0800
Christopher Michael Jones wrote:
> Eugene wrote:
>
> > Here is my dream machine:
> >
> > Celeron 366 overclocked to 550
>
> Why a celeron? A 350 MHz _real_ Pentium II is only ~$150.
Ummm..., I can't think of any other reason than the fact the oc'ed Celery blows
the doors off of the twice-as-expensive chip. But that's more than enough for
me. :-) (BTW, 550 seems to be infrequent at best. 300A --> 450 is very common,
however.)
> > Abit BH6 mobo
>
> Ugh, get a good mb. Check out Tyan, Intel has some good boards too.
And the problem with the Abit is...?
> > Optiquest V95 (19")
>
> Good, but you might think differently about the size. I find
> that the best thing about a monitor is its quality. A 17"
> flat square, hi-res, good color, monitor will probably give
> you a better experience than a low cost 19 incher.
Absolutely no disagreement here. The good news is that really great monitors can
be had for cheap these days. Go to comp.sys.sgi.marketplace and get yourself a
GDM20E21 for $400 - $500. Don't mess around with the older SGI monitors that
only have 13W3 connectors. To drive the older ones you will have to get a video
card that synchs on green and coming up with the requisite 13W3 cable could be
challenging in smaller cities. (And you're really expensive specialty video card
may not run under Linux.)
> > 12+ gig HD
>
> Good.
My only comment here is that smaller is better if it's faster. I'll take an UW
4GB SCSI disk (on a proper dual channel controller) over most of the IDE stuff
out there. Even better, go for an U2W solution. (80MB / sec!!!!!!!)
>
> > etc...
>
> There's probably some important stuff in that etc.
> For example, make sure to get a good modem, some
> modems don't work well / at all with linux.
>
Excellent advice. My only thoughts on modems are that name brand ones (USR,
etc.) tend to be rock solid, and that external beats internal any day of the
week. Unfortunately they're a little more expensive. Finally, on MS operating
systems winmodems are OK for some people, but you're shiny new dsp-less pcb is a
worthless piece of engineering when running Linux. They are in the same category
as the SBlive.
RS
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Qozmoe)
Subject: pppd probs
Date: 3 Apr 1999 07:30:13 GMT
hello. i'm using pppd in attempt to connect to my ISP and having no
success at all. i can connect to my provider by using minicom and
entering my username and password and then the ISP automatically
launches it's ppp program. however, if i try to shut down minicom
without resetting the modem and run pppd as suggested in the
ppp-howto, a connection is never made and the server hangs up after
a few seconds. if i try to run pppd automatically with
a command like:
pppd /dev/cua2 38400 connect 'chat -f /etc/ppp/script'
where /etc/ppp/script contains the following:
ABORT BUSY
ABORT 'NO CARRIER'
"" AT
OK ATDT3969891
ost:--ost: username
ord: password
the modem never picks up to dial. i don't know, i'm new to ppp
and linux in general so i could be overlooking something
obvious, but i can't find anything in the howto or faqs that refers
to this particular problem. anybody got any suggestions?
this sux,
qozmo
ps- i'd be glad to post a script of a particular process or output
if anybody thinks it would help, but for the time being i don't
know what would be helpful.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Woytiuk)
Subject: DHCP & Linux 2.2.4...?
Date: 3 Apr 1999 07:26:02 GMT
Hi,
I recently upgraded my kernel from 2.0.34 to 2.2.4, in the process my
'Net connection died a poor, miserable death. I'm running RHL v5.1 with
two ne2k-compatible network cards, one is set up using DHCP and is used
as the 'Net connection, and the other is hooked to a local network. Prior
to the upgrade, everything worked just peachy. Afterwards, during booting
when DHCP tries to set up the appropriate card it fails.
During the install of the new kernel I didn't add anything new, so I
assumed things would still work. The card doesn't even show up under
'ifconfig', but does in 'netcfg' under X - here it says the interface is
inactive. Any attempts to active it fail. Any hints as to what might be
wrong, I'm at a loss? Thanks in advance,
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: IBM auto 16/4 token-ring isa
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 02:21:47 GMT
I work on an all Ibm Campus running mostly Win95/98, I always wanted
to install Linux on my computer at work and I did just that, our
school is on an token-ring, with WinN, my question is it possible to
get my new Linux OS on this network and must I us Lanaid and if so
anybody know where I can find the Linux ver. of Lanaid I have been try
for quite sometime to get this to work, my NT Admin. is against this
happening and thinks it won't work can somebody Please Please point me
in the right direction. Ohh.. i have read the mini Howto on this and I
am running RedHat 5.2.
Thx in advance.........
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From: Akira Yamanita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hidden ethernet irqs and io addresses
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 00:22:57 GMT
Ray Eads wrote:
> Hi all. I have the specs for an ethernet card which I would like
> to use. These include possible io addresses and irqs. How do I
> discover which ones my card is actually using? Since the module
> can't automatically detect the card, it's asking for these values.
If you haven't touched any of the settings, it's probably the default.
Also, I'm going to assume that you have a software configurable
non-plug-and-play card? Try to locate the software for the card and
it'll be able to read the current settings off of the card as well as
let you change them.
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From: Michael Hirsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Web-Browser on Sparc-Linux
Date: 02 Apr 1999 23:28:16 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I'm looking for a Web-Browser that I can use on an Sparc Station 5 that is
Have you tried the file browsers for gnome and kde? They both
function as web browsers, too. Just type the URL in the are near the
menubar. They are actually pretty good, until they hit something they
can't handle like shtml.
--
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Emory University, Atlanta, GA 30322 FAX: (404) 727-5611
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mathcs.emory.edu/~hirsch/
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