Linux-Networking Digest #656, Volume #10         Sun, 28 Mar 99 07:13:37 EST

Contents:
  Re: Help me spend $2,000 on a new Linux-based computer (Richard Stovall)
  Apache Web server with dynamic IP ("Diego Terzano")
  root or not to root ("Ju")
  Win98 can't find Samba server (Chris Carter)
  Re: Complete PPP script.. need help. details (Andrzej Filip)
  X-server/client on remote doesn't work (Joshua Schwartz)
  Re: Routing (Web-Hotel Danmark)
  Re: Win98 can't find Samba server (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Ruberg)
  Re: HELP!! Final attempt at Samba installation (M. Buchenrieder)
  samba + migration win95 -> win98 ("Andreas K. H�ttel")
  Re: Routing (Web-Hotel Danmark)
  Help with inetd.conf (Desmond Coughlan)
  Re: IP Masquerading with Red Hat 5.2 (Carles Arjona)
  Re: ipfwadm Source to Any destination (Carles Arjona)
  Re: Can a regular user activate and deactivate dialup connection? (Carles Arjona)
  Networking core/kernel book ("Waugh!")
  Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment.... (Stuart Summerville)
  Intranet platform jpub - new version (Martin Farrent)
  Linux Quick and Dirty ("Phil Massyn")

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From: Richard Stovall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Help me spend $2,000 on a new Linux-based computer
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 00:55:36 -0800

Eugene wrote:

> Here is my dream machine:
>
> Celeron 366 overclocked to 550
> Abit BH6 mobo
> 128 Mb SDRAM (PC-100) (one piece)
> Nvidia TNT2 (when it comes out - should be soon!)
> Optiquest V95 (19")
> 12+ gig HD
> etc...
>
> anyone else thinks this is a nice system?
>
> --
> "Ein Folk, ein Reich, ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler
> "One World, one Web, one Program" - Microsoft's slogan
>

Not to drift from the topic, but can you really crank the 366 Celeron up
to 550?  I've got a 300A ->  450 "Celery", as it's lovingly called around
here, that has purred along smoothly from day 1.  I know the BH6 will do
the deed, but can the CPU handle it?  Just curious.

BTW, $2k will get you one hell of a system.  And go ahead and build it
yourself.  It's remarkably easy, even if you haven't done it before.  If
it's a first time thing for you it might take a day or two.  If you know
what you're doing you can have Linux screaming along in under a few
hours.  Also, heed the advice about the supported hardware list.  DO NOT
get a Creative SBLive if you want audio under Linux.  It's a great card
using Windows, but is totally useless with Linux.  And be very careful
about SCSI cards.  Most ethernet cards will work, but I recommend the
Netgear FA310TX (tulip driver).  It's PCI, fast, very cheap and well
supported now.  And also consider an overclocked Celeron 300A with the
venerable BH6.  It's a very inexpensive combination that, wtith a good CPU
fan, should give you great results.  (Necessary disclaimer:  You will void
your CPU warranty by doing this and it might not work at all.)  My
experience with doing this is that the MB and CPU typically work very
well.  Where you are most likely to have problems is with RAM.  Make sure
you buy PC 100 rated stuff that you can take back if it doesn't work.

Final thoughts about a new system.  Since you don't play games, the speed
of the processor shouldn't be your primary concern at this point.  Build
yourself a machine with really high quality components that has tons of
built in CPU upgradability.  (e.g. spend your cash on a killer 19" or 20"
monitor, a 16MB high bandwidth video card, 128MB RAM, and a U2W SCSI
controller running a Barracuda or Cheetah.  (You may want to put in an
extra case fan if you opt for one of the big, bad SCSI drives.  They are
literally very hot!)

Whatever you decide to do, have a blast.!

RS


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From: "Diego Terzano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Apache Web server with dynamic IP
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 04:25:40 -0500

Hi,
    I'm kind of new to Linux and I want to set up an http web server using a
dynamic IP with Apache. How is it done??
Can anyone refers me to a site or anyone that can provide me with the proper
information?

I'm using RedHat 5.2 with the kernel 2.2.4

Thanks




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From: "Ju" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: root or not to root
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 03:03:04 -0700

It seems I have no choice, I have to root around for my ppp connection.

My ISP, my university, seems fussy with logging on. As root, if I click on
"activate" in network config from the control panel, all the ppp scripts
work. Then I logout as root and in as user, sheeesh.
I could just su <username> but I don't know if that's a good thing to do?

If I try to run /etc/ppp/ppp-on, it cancels with a 7-bit error when either
root or user. Why one and not the other?

I know in win95 and manual logging on, the last thing one types in is 'ppp'
'F7' and voila, hooked up.

The last line in my chat script I send '' 'ppp'. It works, but not with
/etc/ppp/ppp-on. What's up?

Is there any scripting that works like ppp F7? or that can force the
connection and get rid of 7-bit error? Something like 'ppp>' or...

>>>>>>>thanks
Jullian



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From: Chris Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Win98 can't find Samba server
Date: 28 Mar 1999 10:31:56 GMT

If someone could be of any assistance I would be very appreciative. I am 
trying to run Samba 2.0.2 on Redhat 5.2 (called neptune) and connect my 
Win98 box (called Donkey) to it. I can ping each computer from the other 
one. I can connect to each computer use the NetBIOS name and using the IP 
address. The workgroup and domain names are the same on both computers. The 
only problem is that Network Neighborhood does not show the Linux box. Here 
are my configs:

Win98;
TCP/IP settings
Enable WINS resolution=192.168.1.5;
File and Printer Sharing - Browse Master=automatic;

# Samba config file created using SWAT
  # from Donkey (192.168.1.3)
  # Date: 1999/03/28 02:31:49

  # Global parameters
          workgroup = CARTER
          netbios name = NEPTUNE
          server string = Samba SMB Server
          interfaces = 192.168.1.3/255.255.255.0
          security = SHARE
          encrypt passwords = Yes
          log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m
          max log size = 50
          socket options = TCP_NODELAY
          os level = 60
          preferred master = Yes
          wins support = Yes
          guest account = smbuser
          hosts allow = 192.168.1.3

  [homes]
          comment = Home Directories
          read only = No
          browseable = No

  [printers]
          comment = All Printers
          path = /var/spool/samba
          print ok = Yes
          browseable = No

  [public]
          comment = Public
          path = /home/public
          read only = No
          guest ok = Yes

  [data]
          comment = Data
          path = /home/samba/data
          read only = No
          guest ok = Yes

If anyone has any suggestions as to why the Win98 box won't see Linux, I 
would be grateful to know. Thank you for your time.

Chris

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From: Andrzej Filip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Complete PPP script.. need help. details
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 18:28:00 +0100

0) some ppp implementation  does not like new line you sends
after seeing connect - change it to
CONNECT                 '\c'

1) add the following line at the end of your chat:
~    ''

it will make chat wait for the other site first ppp packet.

2) use minicom (or something similar) to connect to the
if the other site requires text login  procedure

Eriksson wrote:

> This is the script that is not working.. my log messages are at the end. My
> ISP uses PAP logins
>
> ****/etc/ppp/options ****
>
> debug
> /dev/cua1
> 115200
> modem
> crtscts
> lock
> connect /etc/ppp/net-connect
> name s-xxxxx                   // My login name
> asyncmap 0
> defaultroute
> :
> ****/etc/ppp/pap-secrets *****
> s-xxxxxx        ppp0           yyyyyyy     // yyyyy is my password
>
> **** /etc/ppp/net-connect *****
> # ! /bin/sh
> /usr/sbin/chat -v -t 60 -f /etc/ppp/net-chat
>
> **** /etc/ppp/net-chat ****
>
> TIMEOUT                 50
> ABORT                   '\nBUSY\r'
> ABORT                   '\nNO ANSWER\r'
> ABORT                   '\nRINGING\r\n\r\n\RINGING\r'
> ''                                \rAT&C1&D2Q0V1X4
> 'OK-+++\c-OK'        ATH0
> OK                            'ATDTxxxxxx'  //  my isps number
> CONNECT                 ''
>
> My /etc/resolv.conf
>
> nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
> nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx

--
"Andrzej (Andrew) A. Filip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://homestead.dejanews.com/user.anfi




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From: Joshua Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: X-server/client on remote doesn't work
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 11:49:12 +0200

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Hello to all,

O.K. I want to login to a remote computer that boots
and then sits waiting for something to do. Then from
my local computer I want to rsh to the remote and redirect
the DISPLAY variable to my local computer and run an application
on the remote computer and see the graphical interface on the
local. I used to do this all the time with Sun Sparc stations
but can't seem to get it to work with Linux/Xfree86.

I set the DISPLAY variable as follows on the remote
DISPLAY=192.0.0.3:0

Note that my network uses illegal internet IP addresses.
But I'm not connected to the outside world so I don't think
this should matter for now. 192.0.0.3 is my local computer.

when I try to run xedit I get an error message about not
being able to open the display and xedit exits. Can any one suggest a
way to get this to work. Perhaps I have to setup some permissions properly
or a network configuration. I can rsh succesfully and ping etc.

Thanks in advance,
Joshua Schwartz

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Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 13:03:25 +0200
From: Web-Hotel Danmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Routing

Curt wrote:

> Is forwarding on in /etc/sysconfig/network?
>
> FORWARD_IPV4="yes"

Yep!

Thanks for asking!

-Palle Nielsen



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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Ruberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Win98 can't find Samba server
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 13:05:18 +0200

Chris Carter wrote:

[snip]

>           interfaces = 192.168.1.3/255.255.255.0

[snip]

>           hosts allow = 192.168.1.3

If I am not terribly mistaken, you will have to change your "interfaces"
setting to the network (not the IP address) of the Linux running Samba.
The "interfaces" setting should be somewhat like 
     interfaces = 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0

If you change the "hosts allow" settings as well, to the same value,
i.e.
     hosts allow = 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0

Your present configuration seemed to deny contact from any IP but the
server itself.

I can't see why you should be using WINS resolution on the Win98,
however. You will most likely have fewer problems if you disable it.

In addition, you might want to consider adding
     netbios alias = neptune
to your config file. I do not know whether this is necessary, but it
doesn't hurt :-)

If you had included more info about your network, e.g. the IP addresses
of your computers and not only the names, it will be easier to find out
what's wrong.

Hope this helps anyway -

-- 
Bj�rn Ruberg / http://traktor.nlh.no/beorn

Remove the .no_spam for my email address

"The more you scream the less you hear"    * f i s h *

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: HELP!! Final attempt at Samba installation
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 10:40:21 GMT

John Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>Current "configuration" (using the word loosely!):
>
>Linux system;
>486/66, 16Mb, 4.3Gb, SVGA (Trident9000),3C503

Did yu setup your networking properly ? Is your 3C503 card
detected at startup ? What does "ifconfig" tell you ? 

>Debian linux- (works...doesn't do much without apps of course)

If you have Debian, you do have the apps right there at your hands.

>X-Windows-    (works...not sure what, if any, useful apps available)

See above. It's just a matter of what you installed.

>Samba         (doesn't seem to do anything...)

Samba per se doesn't do anything unless you setup your networking
correctly.

>
>smb.conf- Have edited, written, re-written, copied (examples from every 
>imagineable source), modified, and re-modified file countless times.
>No error messages, but no apparent ability to connect to Win 95 system.

[...]

You wouldn't perhaps want to tell us

- what your networking setup does look like,
- what "ifconfig" and "route -n" are telling you,
- what "dmesg" has to say about your NIC ?

Unless you can provide useful information, I'm tempted to assume that
you're just trolling.

Michael
-- 
Michael Buchenrieder * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.muc.de/~mibu
          Lumber Cartel Unit #456 (TINLC) & Official Netscum
    Note: If you want me to send you email, don't munge your address.

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From: "Andreas K. H�ttel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.networking.win95,linux.samba
Subject: samba + migration win95 -> win98
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 13:34:58 +0200

Hi everybody,

we are currently running a small network with a samba (2.0) server and
a few Windows _95_ workstations. The server stores roaming profiles for
all users and provides authentification (logon scripts, policy file,...)

Now, we are planning to add a Windows _98_ workstation.

Q1: Will Win95 and Win98 be able to work with the same user profiles,
policy file etc?
If not, what can I do?

Q2: In general, are there any problems using samba with Win98 clients
(compared to Win95 which works fine)?

Thanks in advance for any advice,
Andreas

PS. Please CC to my email address!

=====================================================================
Andreas K. Huettel          [EMAIL PROTECTED]
81627 Muenchen              [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Germany                     http://www.lrz.de/~huettel/
=====================================================================

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Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 13:37:45 +0200
From: Web-Hotel Danmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Routing



"M. Buchenrieder" wrote:

> Web-Hotel Danmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >Hi,
>
> >I've been trying to get my RedHat 5.2 to do some routing, and I believe
> >that I've done everything I need to, but it still don't work...
>
> [...]
>
> >ifconfig eth0 <THIS MACHINE's IP> netmask 255.255.255.240 broadcast <The
> >Internet Router's IP>
>
> [...]
>
> Please come back with a valid IP address. Otherwise, it's impossible
> to say what's going on. There's no valid reason for using obscurity
> with regards to system security (or lack thereof).

Hi Michael,

The IP of the Firewall (THIS MACHINE) is 195.97.150.186
The IP of the Router is 195.97.150.177


A simple configuration would be:

=======
eth0 - connected to a network
eth1 - connected to another network
eth2 - connected to a third network

whenever there is traffic on eth0 for IP 195.97.150.180 I want it to be routed
to eth1
whenever there is traffic on eth0 for IP 195.97.150.190 I want it to be routed
to eth1

whenever there is traffic on eth0 for IP 195.97.150.188 I want it to be routed
to eth2
whenever there is traffic on eth0 for IP 195.97.150.189 I want it to be routed
to eth2

whenever there is traffic on eth1 or eth2 for any other IP than I specified
above, I want it routed to eth0
======

Now the way I would do this (only theory, I've never done this before)...
would be:
I make a script like below, and when I execute it, it will work!

===============
#!/bin/sh
# Set Basics
/sbin/ifconfig eth0 195.97.150.186 netmask 255.255.255.240 broadcast
195.97.150.191
/sbin/ifconfig eth1 195.97.150.186 netmask 255.255.255.240 broadcast
195.97.150.191
/sbin/ifconfig eth2 195.97.150.186 netmask 255.255.255.240 broadcast
195.97.150.191

# Set Aliases
/sbin/ifconfig eth1:0 195.97.150.180 netmask 255.255.255.240 broadcast
195.97.150.191
/sbin/ifconfig eth1:1 195.97.150.190 netmask 255.255.255.240 broadcast
195.97.150.191
/sbin/ifconfig eth2:0 195.97.150.188 netmask 255.255.255.240 broadcast
195.97.150.191
/sbin/ifconfig eth2:1 195.97.150.189 netmask 255.255.255.240 broadcast
195.97.150.191

# Set Routes    (.177 is the default router to the world)
/sbin/route add -net 0.0.0.0 dev eth0
/sbin/route add -net default gw 195.97.150.177
/sbin/route add -host 195.97.150.180 dev eth1:0
/sbin/route add -host 195.97.150.190 dev eth1:1
/sbin/route add -host 195.97.150.188 dev eth2:0
/sbin/route add -host 195.97.150.189 dev eth2:1

# The End
==================================================

Now I believe it should work ?

Well nothing gets routed...

Then I ping 195.97.150.180 the traffic goes to eth0, when it should go to
eth1  (also if I ping it from the routing machine itself)

IPv4 IS enabled!


I'me lost!


-Palle Nielsen




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From: Desmond Coughlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help with inetd.conf
Date: 28 Mar 1999 13:40:52 +0200

I have a couple of questions about /etc/inetd.conf

First, in my /var/log/messages, I have constant :

Mar 28 13:35:06 lievre identd[7963]: from: 212.198.3.12 ( 212.198.3.12 ) for: 5729, 110
Mar 28 13:35:06 lievre identd[7963]: Successful lookup: 5729 , 110 : desmond.users 

I tried to comment this out of inetd.conf, but I can't find the
appropriate entry.  Could someone advise me ..?

Second, I also see in inetd.conf:

# Use this one instead if you want to snoop on telnet users (try to use this
# for ethical purposes, ok folks?) :
# telnet stream  tcp     nowait  root    /usr/sbin/tcpd  /usr/sbin/in.telnetsnoopd

Could someone explain more about this to me ..?  How do I activate it,
what does it do, and so on ..?

Thanks.

-- 
Desmond Coughlan                |Restez zen ... Linux peut le faire
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[www site under construction]
                                

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From: Carles Arjona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IP Masquerading with Red Hat 5.2
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 12:28:11 +0200

Raymond Doetjes wrote:
> 
> You should make a kernel and enable:
<snip>
> 
> After you've compiled the kernel, ...

NO. You don't need to compile the kernel for everything.

The pre-compiled kernel from RedHat 5.2 has support for IP Masquerading:

[root@localhost /]# cat /etc/redhat-release 
Red Hat Linux release 5.2 (Apollo)
[root@localhost /]# /sbin/modprobe -l ip_masq*
/lib/modules/preferred/ipv4/ip_masq_vdolive.o
/lib/modules/preferred/ipv4/ip_masq_raudio.o
/lib/modules/preferred/ipv4/ip_masq_quake.o
/lib/modules/preferred/ipv4/ip_masq_irc.o
/lib/modules/preferred/ipv4/ip_masq_ftp.o
/lib/modules/preferred/ipv4/ip_masq_cuseeme.o

> Darrell wrote:
> 
> > Can anyone give me some sort of direction on setting up IP Masquerading on
> > Red Hat 5.2?

<snip> Please, don't quote messages entirely.


#!/bin/sh
# masquerading    This shell script takes care of starting and stopping
#                 IP masquerading.
# by Carles Arjona

LOCALNET=192.168.1.0
NETMASK=255.255.255.0
case "$1" in
  start)
        echo "Starting IP Masquerading "
        # Uncomment the services you need.
        /sbin/modprobe ip_masq_ftp
        #/sbin/modprobe ip_masq_raudio
        #/sbin/modprobe ip_masq_irc
        /sbin/modprobe ip_masq_cuseeme
        #/sbin/modprobe ip_masq_vdolive
        /sbin/ipfwadm -F -p deny
        /sbin/ipfwadm -F -a m -S $LOCALNET/$NETMASK -D 0.0.0.0/0
        ;;
  stop)
        echo "Stoping IP Masquerading "
        /sbin/ipfwadm -F -d m -S $LOCALNET/$NETMASK -D 0.0.0.0/0
        # or even /sbin/ipfwadm -F -f

        for a in $( /sbin/modprobe -l ip_masq_* )
        # It was:
        # for a in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ipv4/ip_masq_*
        # but this didn't work on RedHat 5.2.
        do
                /sbin/modprobe -r `basename $a`
        done
        ;;
  *)
        echo "Usage: masquerading {start|stop}"
        exit 1
esac
exit 0

More info at:
  http://ipmasq.home.ml.org/  or  http://www.tor.shaw.wave.ca/~ambrose/
  http://www.xos.nl/linux/ipfwadm/paper/

Regards.

Carles Arjona    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-
Please, just remove the second NOSPAM for replies from newsgroups.
(Yes, NOSPAM is my real username)
[Don't send me e-mail copies of usenet postings, please]

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From: Carles Arjona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ipfwadm Source to Any destination
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 12:28:16 +0200

Kyle Bowerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Is there a way that I can do ipfwadm with a wild card ip address
> ie
> ipfwadm -A -a -P all -S10.30.19.40 -D any
> 
> This did not work.

man ipfwadm :

"  -D address[/mask] [port ...]
       Destination  specification  (optional).   See   the
       desciption  of  the -S (source) flag for a detailed
       description of  the  syntax,  default  values, ...

   -S address[/mask] [port ...]
       When  this   option   is   omitted,   the   default
       address/mask  0.0.0.0/0 (matching with any address)
       is used as source address. "

So you might try:
        /sbin/ipfwadm -A -a -P all -S10.30.19.40 -D 0.0.0.0/0
or just
        /sbin/ipfwadm -A -a -P all -S10.30.19.40

More info at http://www.xos.nl/linux/ipfwadm/paper/

Regards.

Carles Arjona    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-
Please, just remove the second NOSPAM for replies from newsgroups.
(Yes, NOSPAM is my real username)
[Don't send me e-mail copies of usenet postings, please]

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From: Carles Arjona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can a regular user activate and deactivate dialup connection?
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 12:28:23 +0200

Alex Dong Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Could anyone tell me if a regular user can activate/deactivate dialup
> connection? If so, could you tell me how or pointer to the solution?
> 

Eznet: http://www.hwaci.com/sw/eznet/

Regards.

Carles Arjona    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-
Please, just remove the second NOSPAM for replies from newsgroups.
(Yes, NOSPAM is my real username)
[Don't send me e-mail copies of usenet postings, please]

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From: "Waugh!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Networking core/kernel book
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 13:57:36 +0200

Hi there,

I'm looking for a description of the linux kernel, especially the
networking part. I can find books on linux kernel, on networking
protocols, applications, ... but I'd rather find a book which describes
the network interface in linux : device, sk_buff, sockets, etc.

I managed to look at source files but ahem if I could get a better idea
on the structure.

If you have any good book references or links to give me I would enjoy !

--Jean-Luc


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart Summerville)
Crossposted-To: 
microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc,microsoft.public.windowsnt.setup,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,micorosft.public.outlook
Subject: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment....
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 12:03:22 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,

With the need for home networks that have the server side need for
file storage/security, poermanent internet connections, flexible email
configurations, and other user required services, I'm looking at
setting up a Linux box at the server end. I want to know what
experiences you've had in achieving this, particularly when the
application and server software base has been windas. 

Most people I know setup their standalone pc at home, beef it up with
inet, backup, printing, scanning, email, & other accessories all in
the one box.  This is normally all standalone gear - ie. not specific
to NT server. When upgrading to several pcs in the house, using
client/server tools makes sense & NT Server (& other required apps)
does this adequately. For me, NT is not the way to go, as I would be
wanting to do all of the above from one (2 at most) boxes, for minimal
cost. I see Linux as the way to go, on both counts.

My biggest concern is the up/cross-grade path that one has to take in
doing so. Hosting of email clients, provision of inet access, & file
serving are all relatively cool (ie. Linux ain't missing out on too
much compared to NT). What about fax servers, groupware tools (ie.
sharing contacts, to-do lists, calendards, etc...), client/server
virus suites & other server-type services that might not be as
seamless in with a Linux box?

Even file access ain't all that straight forward when served from a
non-windas box. The differences in the way windas and Unix deal with
file permissions can cause problems with some windas apps (ok some DOS
ones, but they do work with NT server).

In the past, when working from NT servers, many of the things that
Exchange & NTS offer were taken for granted. Those environments that
relied on Unix for such services usually were quite minimal in these
areas, performance aside of course.

As mentioned above, I'm also looking to Unix to avoid cost. Given that
Linux comes bundled with most essential services out of the box is a
great start. Having to then go out & buy Exchange Server, on top of NT
Server would be a nightmare, & thats not including hardware
requirements.

What are your experiences when taking this approach? Does one have to
sacrifice many windas niceties in order to take advantage of Linux? &
please, no barking about how well Linux handles these services - I
know - I just want to know how well it compares to NT on the
usability/feature-wise scale.

Thanks for your thoughts,

Stu.
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Stuart Summerville
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Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 14:03:29 +0200
From: Martin Farrent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Intranet platform jpub - new version


"jpub"  (http://www.jpub.de) is an integrated application/publishing
framework for intranets. It's being developed under the GPL and is free,
open source software. Version 0.5 has just been released, including some
major enhancements for webmasters.

Jpub is based on its own specialized web server written in Java. It
includes 'on the fly' publishing, a unix-style permissioning/user
management system and a powerful API for extension applications.

The developing platform is mostly Linux, but the software has been
tested on NT, Solaris and SCO Unixware successfully. It will probably
also run on OS/2 machines. It should run on any flavour of unix.

The latest version includes an initial set of tools for webmasters and
extension developers as a first step towards our goal of making jpub as
intuitive for administrators as it already is for end users.

The project welcomes new participants and contributors.

Martin Farrent



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From: "Phil Massyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux Quick and Dirty
Date: 28 Mar 1999 12:06:56 GMT

Hi there all,

I haven't touched these pages for quite some time, and I feel a little bit
quilty about it.  But don't fear!  Some new ones will appear shortly.

For all the newbies out there, have a look at Linux Quick and Dirty. 
You'll find it at http://linux.useless.co.za  In LQ&D, I'll show you how to
setup your Linux box quickly and easily.

I would like to ask experts and others out there to submit their ideas and
comments to me to have the site updated.

Best regards

Phillip Massyn
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Webmaster, Webweaver, Administrator, 'baas van die plaas', owner of the
root password for
        www.useless.co.za



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