Linux-Networking Digest #659, Volume #10 Sun, 28 Mar 99 12:13:37 EST
Contents:
Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment.... ("ERiC")
Re: Limiting bandwidth to individual computers ("Alan J. Wylie")
Re: two computer network, 100% packet loss ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment.... (Chris Mauritz)
Very slow connection ("Ahmed Hasan")
Re: Help me spend $2,000 on a new Linux-based computer (Ewan Dunbar)
diald problems (Scott Gregg)
Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment.... ("Robert Moir [MVP]")
Re: Netgear FA310TX Cards and Redhat 5.2 ("Peter C. DuCharme")
Re: ttyS? ?? (Thomas Laus)
Re: 10BaseT > 100m, cable??? ("J. Clarke")
Expanding LANs (AJ Wilkes)
Re: Machine name themes - what do you use? (Amitai Schlair)
Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment.... (vaclav vyvoda)
Re: Modem problem (Andrew Comech)
Masquerading with games ..... Total Annihilation ("Marten")
Re: email server with web interface ("Leopold Toetsch")
Re: 3c515 NIC (Steven N. Hirsch)
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From: "ERiC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc,microsoft.public.windowsnt.setup,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment....
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 17:32:43 +0100
<Snipped by ERiC>
>I don't want to start a flame-war here, but what with the number of bugs
>NT has, and its sheer complexity, I think Linux would be a better choice.
>The last argument is *quite* arguable, and in my experience, neither of
>them are true. No one in any walk of life could have ther lives improved
>by NT, and you can quote me on that. Ever noticed the demand for people
>like yourself? That's because administrating NT is a *big* job, and more
>of a headache than any other system. Around here, I think, we tend to
>refrain from giving advice like this.
>
Agreed!!
I run both NT4 Server and Linux at home and anything important (DNS, SOCKS
etc) runs on a Linux box as I found it easier to do than with NT. Also price
and hardware required favour the Linux route. FYI I have both Linux and
Windows clients.
I also do not want a war about this though, its just my opinion...
ERiC
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From: "Alan J. Wylie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Limiting bandwidth to individual computers
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 17:37:40 +0100
Jake Hallon wrote:
>
> My linux box is using ip masquerading to share a cable modem with two
> other windows machines on the network all connected to a 10baseT hub.
> There are two NIC's in the linux machine one for a cable modem and
> one for the hub. I'm running redhat 5.2. My question is can I limit
> the amount of cable modem bandwidth a particular computer is allowed?
> I would like to limit one windows machine in particular. Any thoughts
> or ideas appreciated. Thanks!
This was announced recently on Freshmeat:
http://www.freshmeat.net/
IPAcct 0.7d
scav - March 11th 1999, 07:11 EST
IPacct 0.7d introduces a new policy mechanism that
provides per user IP statistics, that is, it just provides the
user's IP usage. This package adds per user ip accounting to
the kernel and contains programs to control and use
this accounting data. This version contains patches
for 2.2.x as well as 2.0.x (and older) series of kernels.
http://uk.eu.mirrors.freshmeat.net/news/1999/03/11/921154266.html
HTH
Alan.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: two computer network, 100% packet loss
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 12:00:33 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher ) wrote:
> Hello, I am trying to setup a mini network with two computers. I have
> read the instructions from NET-3 and ORA's TCP/IP but I still can't
> get the computers talking. I am using two DEC ethernet cards (DE200,
> and DE205) that appear to be working with out conflicts. They
> attached with thin net cable which is terminated at both ends.
>
> I used ifconfig on the first and set the address to eth0 to 172.16.1.3
> with netmask 255.255.0.0. The other computer is eth0 172.16.1.2.
>
> On the first machine route -n gives
> Dest Gateway Genmask Flags ... Iface
> 172.16.1.2 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH eth0
> 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U lo
>
> On the other:
> Dest Gateway Genmask Flags ... Iface
> 172.16.1.3 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH eth0
> 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U lo
>
> When I ping from either machine with
> ping 172.16.1.2 or ping 172.16.1.3
> I get the following message:
> PING 172.16.1.2 : 56 data bytes
>
> After ctrl-c
> --- 172.16.1.2 ping statistics ---
> 7 packets transmitted, 0 packets recieved, 100% packet loss
>
> Both machines give the same messages.
>
> Please give me some ideas as to what could be causing the problem.
> Thanks.
>
its not so much route thats interesting here its what ifconfig tells you
should look like
eth0 link encap:ethernet hwaddr:(hwadress of card)
inet addr:172.16.1.2 Bcast:172.16.255.255 mask 255.255.0.0
up broadcast running ......
if thats ok
ping each machine itself, first by adress then by name
if thats ok, rewire the two machines, check termination etc
last resort: try tcpdump to see which packets are coming and going
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From: Chris Mauritz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment....
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 16:34:24 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Alexander I. Butenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ANyway I greatly doubt that Linux will be easier to use than NT Server. I'm
> sure that NT Server will be a ideal use for a small home network, becaus
> eit's very easy to configure comparable to Linux and supports most network
> clients better.
Nonsense. Redhat is rather painless to setup. A novice could probably
have it up and running as a SOHO file server in under an hour since samba
comes turned on by default.
C
--
Christopher Mauritz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Ahmed Hasan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Very slow connection
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 19:08:24 +0300
Hello there,
I connect to the Internet through Linux but the connection is "very very
slow". It is much slower than the connection throw Windows95. Can you tell
me what is the problem? Can you help me make it faster?
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
From: Ewan Dunbar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help me spend $2,000 on a new Linux-based computer
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 10:26:12 -0500
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I've gotten the go-ahead from my better half (read: my wife) to spend
> around 2K on a new system. I'd like to hear _specific_ success and/or
> horror stories on systems and peripherals that have worked and not
> worked with Linux. My prequisites:
>
> 400mhz CPU
> 96mb RAM
> 8mb video card
> 19" monitor
> sound card, speakers
> 4GB hard drive
> CD-ROM
>
> Bonuses:
> DVD
^^^
Kinda pointless when there aren't any drivers. Perhaps at some point in
the future there will be -- but until then, you'd -- depending on
the type of drive -- either not be able use it or only use it as a recular
CD-ROM drive.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Gregg)
Subject: diald problems
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 16:49:30 GMT
I'm having some problems with diald and would appreciate some help.
Diald will dial and connect with no problems if the dialdc up command
is issued, but no other time.
For dial on depand operation:
If I issue he command dialdc queue after launching netscape and check
for messages diald has caught 1 impulse but does not act on it.
I'm using no rule other than
accept any 420 any.
any other suggestion...
Thanks in advance.
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From: "Robert Moir [MVP]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment....
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 17:45:14 +0100
Crossposted-To:
microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc,microsoft.public.windowsnt.setup,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
ERiC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7dlljq$6qg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]....
<snip>
>
>I run both NT4 Server and Linux at home and anything important (DNS, SOCKS
>etc) runs on a Linux box as I found it easier to do than with NT. Also
price
>and hardware required favour the Linux route. FYI I have both Linux and
>Windows clients.
>
>I also do not want a war about this though, its just my opinion...
>
>ERiC
And welcome to your opinion you certainly are.
Personally, I am in the NT camp, I find it easier to use than unix or any
varient thereof, but they are *both* excellant server platforms IMHO. I
would probably reccomend NT to someone who was asking for a box that was
easy to use and administer, because in my personal experiance NT has proven
to be so.
As for stability, well Linux is not the worlds most mature product, and its
doing very well considering how new it is, but I would hesitate before
betting the farm on it none the less. As for NT - well I see lots of people
commenting on how unstable it is, but I can honestly say that they must run
their servers in a different way from me because my NT servers are rock
solid and I am very confident in them. Considering the amount of people who
say NT gives them trouble I wonder what I am doing wrong!
But like I say, either choice is good for a home network. Its pretty much
down to which one the user prefers getting to grips with.
--
Robert Moir, Microsoft MVP,
Topic Leader, MSN Safe Computing forum for viruses
My Homepage - http://www.bitey.force9.co.uk
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From: "Peter C. DuCharme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netgear FA310TX Cards and Redhat 5.2
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 16:07:29 GMT
I have the same network card and RH5.2 and was able to get the card working
by following the instructions included on the included diskette. Look in the
file "A:\HELP\LINUX\LINUX.txt". I also had to create a "/etc/resolv.conf"
so that "dhcpcd" would get an ip address dynamically from Road Runner.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Laus)
Subject: Re: ttyS? ??
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 15:44:46 GMT
On Sat, 27 Mar 1999 19:23:53 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Laus) writes:
>
>[...]
>
>>Well I also had this problem getting my external modem to work. It
>>seems like the pulldown menu and book for SuSE Linux 6.0 uses these
>>device names for the serial port.
>
>SUSE is correct.
>
>>I had an old Unix book laying
>>around and it refered to the serial ports as 'cua0, cua1'.
>
>[...]
>
>This is , actually , incorrect/obsolete and will not work anymore
>as soon as you start using 2.2.* kernels .
>
>Michael
>
I am running Linux 2.2.3 and there is a reference to using the cua0 -
cua3 designations for outgoing serial ports for modems on page 397 of
the SuSE Linux 6.0 book
Tom
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Reply-To: "J. Clarke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "J. Clarke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.hardware,comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
Subject: Re: 10BaseT > 100m, cable???
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 11:13:36 -0500
The limit for Thin Ethernet is 185 meters per segment, for thick it's 500
per segment. Other network technologies (most of the no longer readily
available) can do more than that on coaxial cable.
A repeater (aka "hub" on 10baseT) costs a good deal less than Linux box with
two NICs in it.
On Category 5, 10base2 is good for at least 150 meters, on Level 6 and Level
7 it can go farther.
--
--
--John
Reply to jclarke at eye bee em dot net
Eugene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:PJjL2.8031$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> yeah, you need a repeater if you want the cable to be > 100m -- the signal
> gets too weak. Coaxial cable has a limit of 175m, you might want to give
> that a try.
> Another way would be to split the network into 2 segments and use a bridge
> to connect the two. I'm pretty sure Linux box can do that. Check
> www.linux.org/help
>
>
>
> Craig Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:7dhq7d$7l1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > "Rikard Bjurenb�ck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > I�m setting up an Ethernet 10BaseT (or maybe
> > > Fast Erthernet, 100Mbps) network
> > > in my neighbourhood. The only problem is
> > > the limitation of the 100m spec. My house
> > > is at the end of the street and some neighbours
> > > (whom are joining my network) are about 130-140 m
> > > away from my hub. Is it safe to use cat 5 or 6
> > > cable for this distance, or do they have to
> > > invest in a radio-LAN, some kind of fibersolution
> > > or anything else. Does anyone know a good and
> > > inexpensive solution for this problem?
> > >
> > > Please help me!
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > or
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > Rikard Bjurenb�ck
> > >
> > >
> >
> > I recommend:
> >
> > http://www.blackbox.com/
> >
> > They have a catalog that is full of anything you may need. All types of
> > repeaters and circuit protection devices. If you can afford it, the
best
> > media for a multiple building setup is fiber optic.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Craig Moore
> > Moore Computer Services
> >
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>
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From: AJ Wilkes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Expanding LANs
Date: 28 Mar 1999 16:25:41 GMT
I have a few questions regarding expanding a LAN that is nearing capacity.
If there's anyone with any (even basic) experience in this area, could you
drop me an email? It shouldn't take too much time.
Thanks,
AJ
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Amitai Schlair)
Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.protocols.tcp-ip.domains
Subject: Re: Machine name themes - what do you use?
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 11:18:38 -0500
Rahul Dhesi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Has anybody tried using names of UNIX commands as host names?
I use Unix signal names on my home LAN. The number of the signal is the
host part of the IP address:
1 IN PTR hup.amitai.org.
2 IN PTR int.amitai.org.
3 IN PTR quit.amitai.org.
and so forth.
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microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc,microsoft.public.windowsnt.setup,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (vaclav vyvoda)
Subject: Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment....
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 16:20:57 GMT
..and thank you for the typical MS PR BS..
On Alexander I. Butenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: ANyway I greatly doubt that Linux will be easier to use than NT Server. I'm
: sure that NT Server will be a ideal use for a small home network, becaus
: eit's very easy to configure comparable to Linux and supports most network
: clients better.
: --
: Best Regards,
: Alexander I. Butenko
: Microsoft Certified Professional
: Microsoft Developer Network Certified Member
: Rod Roark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
: news:7dl9ai$rkq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
: > Stuart Summerville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: > >...
: > >What are your experiences when taking this approach? Does one have to
: > >sacrifice many windas niceties in order to take advantage of Linux? &
: > >please, no barking about how well Linux handles these services - I
: > >know - I just want to know how well it compares to NT on the
: > >usability/feature-wise scale.
: >
: > Take a look at http://citv.unl.edu/linux/LinuxPresentation.html.
: > It's a bit old now, but has a lot of detail.
: >
: > -- Rod
: > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
: > Sunset Systems Preconfigured Linux Computers
: > http://www.sunsetsystems.com/ and Custom Software
: > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Comech)
Subject: Re: Modem problem
Date: 28 Mar 1999 12:00:28 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Andrew Comech wrote:
>In article <7dgtpu$l88$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, BDozer wrote:
>>Hi,
>>I have Diamond Supra 33.6i Voice Modem and I have problems getting it to
>>work under Linux. I installed it with the Isapnp tools and it responds to
>>commands like : echo "atdt666" > /dev/cua1" but for example Minicom doesn't
>>accept keyboard input although everything seem to be set up. Seyon accepts
>>keyboard input but there's no output in the terminal window. For example I
>>write atdt1111 and nothing appears on the screen but when I press Enter it
>>executes the command. What could be wrong?
>
>Hi, maybe you should enable echoing in modem (and also in Seygon??).
>You better see the list of AT commands for your modem, but I think ATE1
>means "echo on".
Kind of silly of me: you EITHER type ATE1 to your modem OR you execute
"echo on" in e.g. minicom (which in turn types ATE1 on your behalf).
In a chatscript you are certainly supposed to use the INIT string
which would leave your modem with "echo on".
>
Hi, I received another follow-up, I believe it was supposed to go to BDozer:
<begin quote>
Hi,
Some random suggestions:
1.) Try using "dip -t" in terminal mode instead of your copy trick. It
works better.
2.) You might just have echo off. Try sending ATE1 and see if it
echoes your keystrokes then.
3.) If it takes a very long time to work, like fifteen seconds, you
have your IRQ set wrong. You can fix it with setserial. "man
setserial" gives a list of standard IRQ's that give a good idea of which
ones to guess first.
Hope this helps! I would have posted to the group but I don't know how
to fake my return address to foil the spammers!
Rob
<end quote>
Well, let me try to fake Rob's email address:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cheese,
Andrew
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From: "Marten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Masquerading with games ..... Total Annihilation
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 18:35:16 +1100
As a newbie I have had a fairly trouble free time setting up a linux dialup
router for my home LAN. I have used masquerading with no restrictions for
the moment to see if all my favorite stuff works. To my horror I am now
suffering from TA withdrawals :(.
Has anyone had luck getting TA to play over a masqueraded setup ?
I am running Red Hat 5.2 with 2.0.36 kernal
- DHCP
- Squid proxy
- DNS caching proxy
Thanks
Marten
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From: "Leopold Toetsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: email server with web interface
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 17:16:13 +0200
Knut Hansen wrote in message <7dlbg4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I'm looking for an email server software that does the same
>with Linux that Ipswitch imail does with Windows NT:
Don't know what imail do.
>- serve mail for multiple domains on one machine
> (so we can have one pop account [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
>a different one [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>- administer domains, pop accounts and aliases via the web
>Is there something like that out there, maybe as an extension to
>sendmail or exim?
Webmin + sendmail should to the job, as I read on their website
http://www.webmin.com/webmin/
But I didn't test it yet.
leo
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steven N. Hirsch)
Subject: Re: 3c515 NIC
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 16:11:32 GMT
On Fri, 19 Mar 1999 10:45:08 +0100, Unival Computers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm trying to install a 3c515 on a Compaq Presario
>CDS 633 with SuSe 5.3 and I'm using the 3c515.o
>driver who came with SuSe (is version 0.99).
>
>This is the actually NIC's configuration:
> IRQ: 10
> I/O: 0x200
> DMA: 3
>
>(of course i've tryed many other valid configurations starting
>from the automatic one).
>
>But the system seems to not recognize my card
>here some more information:
>
(snip)
The 3C515 is an ISA PNP device and, as such, has no "actual"
configuration of its own. You probably should be using the isapnp
package to set the card up at boot, then load the driver as a kernel
module after that's been accomplished. I used a 515 here for the past
year with no problems at all.
Steve
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