Linux-Networking Digest #5, Volume #11 Sat, 1 May 99 11:13:33 EDT
Contents:
samba and Win98 ("Arquimedes Dennis")
Re: Machine name themes - what do you use? (J.D. Baldwin)
Re: linux as terminal server ("Pat Crean")
video card special request ("Gunther Huygens")
Re: Creating Subnets (Rob van der Putten)
Re: ppp *server* trouble (Rob van der Putten)
Re: "Direct Cable Connection" (Rob van der Putten)
Re: Dialup PPP Server Problem (Clifford Kite)
Re: Dynamic PPP hostname changes ! (Clifford Kite)
Re: 2 nic cards help!!! (Rob van der Putten)
Re: ifconfig errors... (Clifford Kite)
Re: ppp *server* trouble (Clifford Kite)
Re: Ping : Network not reachable (Norman Elliott)
printer sharing ? (Philippe L�)
Re: ipchains help please (Mac)
Re: What Would Be A Very Capable... ("A Hilton")
Re: Linux as fileserver (Kwan Lowe)
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From: "Arquimedes Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: samba and Win98
Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 04:00:14 -0700
Help...
I recently ungraded my win95 to win98(or loose98) and i can no longer login
to samba. The network password dialog box comes up, i enter the password i
have always used and get a password incorrect.
The system was working correclty in win95.
any ideas???
ARQ.
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vmsnet.networks.misc,microsoft.public.windowsnt.domain,comp.unix.solaris,comp.os.os2.networking.server,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.admin.networking,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J.D. Baldwin)
Subject: Re: Machine name themes - what do you use?
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:18:28 GMT
In article <7g52ng$nfn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Thomas Sippel - Dau
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Regular names have the advantage in being short and easy to decode
> for the initiated, but there are several problems:
One problem you forgot: in a multi-use server environment, it's
bloody well impossible to remember which application(s) went with
which machine. Did that Sybase app run on rt56usaz? Or was it
rt58usax? Even if you see the machines every day, it's easy to
mistype or misremember a character. Pretty soon you're rebooting
qw34sft4 when you *told* the users of qw43sfr4 to expect an outage.
Putting an application code in the naming scheme doesn't help in such
environments, because multiple applications share machines, and apps
are always coming and going, while the underlying server pretty much
remains the same.
I agree that "funny" names can be taken too far, to the point of
unprofessional and perhaps even offensive. (I liked the "problems
with toytown" story.)
I am a big advocate of letting sysadmins name the machines whatever
they like, perhaps within naming schemes. All "sandbox" machines, for
example, might be named after sea creatures. octopus, manatee,
nautilus. (That last is my former workstation, because it fits the
name scheme and is also a naval *and* SF reference.)
It's pretty hard to log in to "homer" mistakenly, when you were
thinking about the fact that you have work to do on "marge." And it's
easy, once you've been there for a week or so, to remember that it's
the sea creatures that are sandbox machines, the Simpsons characters
that are Oracle servers, US states for file servers, etc., etc.
I have seen a lot of "mechanical" naming schemes, and while they make
a kind of sense on paper, I haven't seen one yet that even had a
positive benefit for the enterprise, much less one that was actually
worth the trouble to implement.
I think the "compromise" your organization reached in assigning names
mechanically, along with a human-friendly name, was the worst of both
worlds. Now, in addition to everything else, you have a coordination
problem with keeping the names aligned. Also, the chance of
miscommunication. "The MOTD said that q69y5tz was going to be out
of service today. I don't have to worry about that -- my application
runs on xerxes." Of course, this user is about to learn the danger
of aliases.
You want proof that it's easier to keep track of "friendly" machine
names? Take this quiz (no fair looking back in the post):
1. Which machine got rebooted by mistake?
a. qw43sft4
b. rt43usaz
c. qw34sft4
d. rt56usaz
2. Which machine is a 'sandbox' machine where I work?
a. vader
b. luthor
c. nautilus
d. camaro
I rest my case.
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From: "Pat Crean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux as terminal server
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:00:00 -0400
Any particular reason you can't just invoke telnet circserver from inittab?
Ray Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Thanks for the reply! I could do that but it's not what I really want.
> The deal is, we're a newspaper and have a number of dumb terminals. They
> all end up in a term server. We have several departments, circulation,
> advertising, etc. and what I want is when someone in circulation hits
> the return key it telnets to the circulation server. The easy way would
> seem to be to just teach them to type telnet circserver but you have no
> idea
> how I would be punished for that with our users.
> -Ray
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write:
> |I'm trying to replace a terminal server with a Linux box with a
> |multi-port card. What I'm trying to find, is how can you set it up so
> |that when they hit the return key on a particulat port they get a login
> |prompt on a specific server.
> | -Ray
> |--
> |Ray Patterson ... mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> |http://w3.trib.com/~ray
>
> Can you grab the login name with mgetty and
> then call the server, passing the login name? See
> http://www.slug.org.au/etherboot/doc/html/sshterminal.html for something
> I did that might give you some ideas.
> --
> Ray Patterson ... mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://w3.trib.com/~ray
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From: "Gunther Huygens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: video card special request
Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 10:46:04 +0200
Which of the existing videocard
is able to have PC2TV and:
1) provides images for monitor and PC on the same time
2) Provides possibility to have different windows/outputs on monitor and TV
at the same time
give all the products you know that perform 1)
give all the products you know that perform 2)
Preferably not too expensive. (Linux supported => X )
(I know am asking too much but already have spent hours surfing and haven't
find something that can
help me with this)
I probably will be 0/c cele to 100FSB
What is the difference between Quantum EX en CR?
which HDD good to o/c Quantum, Seagate, IBM ?
Greetings from Flanders
Gunther
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From: Rob van der Putten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Creating Subnets
Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 14:52:16 +0200
Hi there
On Sat, 1 May 1999, Darth Vader wrote:
> I have a cable modem, and would like to give other workstations access
> to the internet through one DHCP cable modem...... How do I go about
> assigning the other PC's IP numbers, do I just make them up????
If you have the cable compagny assigning a whole range of numbers rather
then just one ip nr, you can use any number in this range.
This however, is probably not the case.
The best thing to do is probably to install a small lan with its own nic
in your linux box. Install bind and squid and ip masquerading.
Assign private net nrs to your lan.
Regards,
Rob
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From: Rob van der Putten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ppp *server* trouble
Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 14:54:09 +0200
Hi there
On Sat, 1 May 1999, Erik Myllymaki wrote:
> but
> I can't connect to the internet from the mac.
Of course you can't.
Install ip masquerading.
Regards,
Rob
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From: Rob van der Putten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "Direct Cable Connection"
Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 14:48:02 +0200
Hi there
On Sat, 1 May 1999, Direnzy wrote:
> Does linux have a direct cable connection like win95 (Lpt1 to Lpt1)?
> I haven't seen any docs on it so I'm guessing that type of networking
> is unavailiable. L8R.
You guessed wrong. There are lots of networking features wich Linux has
and M$ doesn't. Have a look at PPP and PLIP.
Regards,
Rob
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From: kite@NoSpam.%inetport.com (Clifford Kite)
Subject: Re: Dialup PPP Server Problem
Date: 1 May 1999 07:16:52 -0500
Adam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
<snip>
: 10. The Linux server is on the same subnet as the IP addresses
: assigned to the dial in user.
According to the /etc/ppp/options.ttyS0 file you are assigning the
dial-in the IP address 192.168.140.12 and the Linux box the IP address
192.168.140.3 which are IPs for a reserved network. How then does the
linux box access the internet? In the absence of NAT or firewalling
the ethernet LAN to which the Linux box is attached and which provides
internet access must use a block of public (non-reserved) IP addresses.
For proxyarp to work the dial-in must also be assigned an IP address
from this block of IP addresses.
: 11. I have checked IP_Forwarding and it appears to be working because
: I can ping the Linux server, and any other computer on the network
: with the Linux server... just nothing beyond the local network (ie.
: can't reach the internet). All machines on the local network
: (including the server) CAN see the internet.
: 12. The logs have no errors listed
: 13. I had some confusion about setting defaultroute in my
: /ppp/options. I am assuming defaultroute is a setting used on the
: client side and not the server side. Anyway, I've tried it with and
: without defaultroute in the options file and it made no difference.
Yes, a Linux box dialing in would need the defaultroute option but
proxyarp is correct for a box that must provide access to machines on
the LAN and beyond to the dial-in. Either proxyarp, or gated or routed
running on that box.
: To sum it all up...
: Everything works exactly as it should... except... I can't see
: anything beyond the server's local network.
: I'm now wondering if it has something to do with a default gateway
: setting for the ppp dial in user. I've not seen anything listed in
: the HOWTO's about setting an options like this.
If the IP address for the Linux box and dial-in box belong to the
same LAN, with a gateway somewhere on the LAN, then it should work
with proxyarp. Whatever the dial-in boxes send through the wire will
get correctly routed and the responses correctly routed back through
the wire to the dial-in boxes. The Linux box itself also needs a default
route to the LAN gateway machine.
: Also, I'm wondering if I need to somehow bind the ppp connections to
: the ethernet connection the server uses.
The "binding" is done by using the Linux box's ethernet LAN IP for it's
side of the PPP connection and providing the dial-in with an IP address
belonging to the same LAN.
--
Clifford Kite <kite@inet%port.com> Not a guru. (tm)
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From: kite@NoSpam.%inetport.com (Clifford Kite)
Subject: Re: Dynamic PPP hostname changes !
Date: 1 May 1999 08:27:29 -0500
Neil Benson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I have redhat 5.2 and im able to form a ppp connection to my ISP with no
: problems. My ISP has dynamic IP allocation. And here is where the
: problem starts...
: My host name is localhost, when ive conencted to my ISP my hostname
: alters to some string of random letters. so I got from nbenson@localhost
: to nbenson@P4fsdhJuis !!
: This is A) annouying and B) screws up my gnome session managment.
: Does anyone the reason behind this ? My /stc/hosts only conatins the
: 127.0.0.1 entry for the local loop; i dont know what ip my isp will give
: me.
It sounds like pppd is configured to use the localhost IP as the IP for
the ISP on your side of the PPP connection. I'd suspect RH of configuring
pppd this way, and some ISPs will allow you specify an IP to use for it
on your side.
Does "route -n" during the PPP connection show 127.0.0.1 as a host on
the PPP interface? Then there should be a pppd option <127.0.0.1:> or
<localhost:> or similar. Replace it with <192.168.0.1:> which asks the
ISP to allow you to use 192.168.0.1 for it's address on your side of
the connection. Assuming that this IP doesn't belong to a machine on
a local private network to which your box is attached.
--
Clifford Kite <kite@inet%port.com> Not a guru. (tm)
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From: Rob van der Putten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2 nic cards help!!!
Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 15:00:10 +0200
Hi there
On Sat, 1 May 1999, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Which file are you reffering to Rob. Is it /etc/conf.modules or Append in
> lilo.conf and did you have to give any options for irqs.
It is in fact /etc/modules.
/etc/conf.modules takes care of dependencies.
On a RH box you probably need to set an option in /etc/conf.modules.
Regards,
Rob
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From: kite@NoSpam.%inetport.com (Clifford Kite)
Subject: Re: ifconfig errors...
Date: 1 May 1999 07:51:10 -0500
Sandeep Singh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I am also getting a LOT of errors as shown by ifconfig. Although the
: networking set-up
: seems to be working fine (as far as I can see). Can anybody tell me what
: is going on
: here? This is for a 3Com 905 card on RedHat 5.2 with kernel 2.2.5.
I'd guess you didn't read linux/Documentation/Changes to find out what
programs need upgrading.
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Clifford Kite <kite@inet%port.com> Not a guru. (tm)
/* Those who can't write, write manuals. */
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From: kite@NoSpam.%inetport.com (Clifford Kite)
Subject: Re: ppp *server* trouble
Date: 1 May 1999 07:46:29 -0500
Erik Myllymaki ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I can connect via modem from the macintosh to KAISER and establish
: a ppp connection (I can connect to the web server running on KAISER), but
: I can't connect to the internet from the mac. I can't even ping PINGU. I
: can connect to the Internet from KAISER just fine.
Do you have IP forwarding compiled into KAISER? Are you using proxyarp
as a pppd option?
--
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From: Norman Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Ping : Network not reachable
Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 15:12:16 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MicroNg wrote:
>
> Norman Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > MicroNg wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I have problem setting up my TCPIP network, I have ne200 ethernet card,
> > > and try to setting up the network, cause I'm not connected to other
> > > computer,
> > > so it is alone.
> >
> > This may seem a daft question but why put a network card in
> > if you
> > only have one PC?
> >
> > If you mean you have another PC and are going to connect to
> > it then
> > please say what OS that PC is running.
>
> what OS that PC is running don't matter, as far as it is TCPIP.
>
> In office, I use it to connect to win95, but at home, I only use it alone,
> however,
> occasionally, I will connect to another PC using BNC cable.
>
> Also, pls note that I know TCPIP well and have programmed with both the BSD
> and
> WIN socket on linux and winsock on win95 and talked to each other (of
> course using
> C/C+)
>
> I'm trying to explore the apache web server on single PC, so I have to
> create a loop-back interface, or connected to myself. In office, with have
> many PC, I have succesfuuly setup up and running the thing (Perl/CGI) and I
> took back the
> stuff to test in home.
> & I have typed ifconfig, netstat etc, all give positive response, except
> zero packet
> received and send on TCP & UDP stream.
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~``
> for eg
> ping 191.1.1.4
>
> it give :
> sendto : network unreacheable
>
> for your info, my subnet mask = 255.255.0.0 ( my office use this class )
>
> conf.modules
> ============
> alias eth0 ne
> options ne io=0x300 irq=11
>
> hostname
> ========
> linuxserver
>
> hosts
> =====
> 127.0.0.1 linuxserver.powersb.po.my localhost
> 191.1.1.4 linuxserver.powersb.po.my
>
> networks
> ========
> loopback 127.0.0.0
> powersb.po.my 191.1.1.0
>
> Thank for any help,
>
> pls reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as well
>
> Rgds
>
> Ng
>
> NO UCE
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> >
Ok, I am no expert and have jumped thru many hoops
to get my system anywhere near what I would like.
Still I seen to think that the loopback device is
a dummy device and suspect that your hosts file
may need to be as below. Otherwise I think your
system will believe localhost is just an alias
for your network card.
127.0.0.1 localhost
191.1.1.4 linuxserver.powersb.po.my
hope this helps,
norm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philippe L�)
Subject: printer sharing ?
Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 14:18:57 GMT
I have a linux box connected to my network and I want to use it as a
printer server for 3 printer connected to the 3 parallele ports I have
on this machine.
The machine that are going to print are windows machine, unfortunatly
I the printers I have are only supproted in windows, so how can I pipe
the printing files to the linuw box parallele port.
Thanks you
you can email your answer at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Mac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ipchains help please
Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 14:27:02 GMT
You have to change the syntax you're using. It doesn't map one to one.
For example, whenever you use the keyword deny or reject, you have to
capitalize it for ipchains.
And ipchains switched the order of arguments. For example, your second
ipfwadm command below would look like this:
ipchains -A foward -s 192.168.1.1/32 -d 0.0.0.0/0
Note that parameters that used to be upper case are now lower case.
Try looking at the man pages, you'll see these differences...
Anjan Sen wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have a system that is Red Hat 5.2, with the kernel newly upgraded to
> 2.2.7. I have a small private network with 192.168.*.* addreses, and this
> Linux box that acts as a gateway. It's on dialup and has a static ip
> address.
>
> Prior to the upgrade I was using ipfwadm to masquerade my private
> addresses like this, and it worked pretty well
>
> ipfwadm -F -p deny
> ipfwadm -F -a m -S 192.168.1.1/32 -D 0.0.0.0/0
>
> Now, after the upgrade I attempted to get ipchains running in a very
> simple manner. I thought I'd start off by using Rusty's Three-Line guide
> To Masquerading found at www.rustcorp.com. My problem is that although I
> have the correct version of ipchains - 1.3.8 - even when i cut and
> paste the lines from my web browser, I get syntax errors from ipchains.
> For example
>
> root@sealion /usr/src/linux
> > echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
> root@sealion /usr/src/linux
> > ipchains -P forward -j DENY
> ipchains: -P requires a chain and a policy
> Try `ipchains -h' or 'ipchains --help' for more information.
> root@sealion /usr/src/linux
> > ipchains -A forward -i ppp0 -j MASQ
> ipchains: No chain by that name
> root@seYalion /usr/src/linux
> > ipchains --version
> ipchains 1.3.8, 27-Oct-1998
>
> This must be me doing something daft, but I can't see what. I have
> compiled the necessary support into my kernel
>
> root@sealion /usr/src/linux
> > grep CONFIG_IP_FIREWALL .config
> CONFIG_IP_FIREWALL=y
> root@sealion /usr/src/linux
> > grep CONFIG_FIREWALL .config
> CONFIG_FIREWALL=y
>
> and ifconfig shows me this
>
> ifconfig
> eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:A0:24:7E:BB:87
> inet addr:192.168.1.2 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
> UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
> RX packets:2097 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> TX packets:1757 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> collisions:4 txqueuelen:100
> Interrupt:10 Base address:0x300
>
> lo Link encap:Local Loopback
> inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
> UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3924 Metric:1
> RX packets:194 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> TX packets:194 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
>
> ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol
> inet addr:158.152.160.123 P-t-P:158.152.1.222
> Mask:255.255.255.255
> UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
> RX packets:116 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> TX packets:96 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> collisions:0 txqueuelen:10
>
> Please can someone help me? I've searched everywhere but haven't found an
> answer.
>
> Thanks.
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From: "A Hilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What Would Be A Very Capable...
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:18:43 -0500
Thanks Jim. I'm getting it now and I'll play with it later today.
- A Hilton
Jim Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Sun, 25 Apr 1999 08:42:15 -0500,
> A Hilton, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> brought forth the following words...:
>
> >Yes, 16550 UART and it's an internal modem. Spent a little time tweaking
the
> >modem and system and it works fine now. Great speeds for the 4 computers
> >running thru it now. By the way, does anyone know of some packages out
> >there for monitoring the PPP link ? I'd like to know connection speed,
> >throughput, errors, etc. Kind of like Windows RAS Monitor.
> >
> >
>
> look for iptraf. Latest version is somewhere around 1.4 or so.
>
> - A Hilton
> >
> >
> >
> >Vidar Andresen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> In article <7frbfv$ij7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >> "A Hilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >Running what you want (just a dialup 56K instead of the cable modem)
as I
> >> >type from a 386dx/40 8MB RAM, 200MB HDD, D-Link ISA NIC machine as the
> >> >gateway. It was my first Linux install too. Modem is kind of slow as
> >> >compared when I had it running from NT Server/Proxy Server 2.0 before
but
> >I
> >> >think I just need to tweak a few things to get the speed back up...if
I
> >can
> >> >just find where to do that now! <g>
> >>
> >> Fast (16550 or above) Uart on the 386? If not it could limit the
> >> speed on an _external_ modem to 9600.
> >>
> >> If that is the problem, an I/O card with fast serial ports could work.
> >>
> >> (I have not tried V90 or K56 on linux, so..)
> >>
> >> Mvh Vidar Andresen
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Jim Richardson
> www.eskimo.com/~warlock
> All hail Eris
> "Linux, where do you want to go tomorrow?"
>
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From: Kwan Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux as fileserver
Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 11:11:24 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rien Broekstra wrote:
>
> Could someone give a lineout of the possibilities to use Linux as a
> fileserver for Win95 workstations.
>
A few choices:
Run SAMBA -- best option, since the Windows clients can use this
natively. It's running for me without any problems. However, my
network is tiny (8 clients) so I have not stressed it out.
Mars-NWE -- a netware emulator with the Caldera (??) distribution. I
have not used this personally besides a one-time install to see if it
would work (it does, but I had a little difficulty getting my standard
DOS based clients to see it).
NFS -- I use this between Linux machines but have not configured Windows
to view these.
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