Linux-Networking Digest #36, Volume #11 Tue, 4 May 99 08:14:11 EDT
Contents:
Direct Cable PPP connection between Linux and Win95 ("Bono")
DSL questions (Christopher Segot)
Re: DNS hosting (xcitor)
Re: gigabit ethernet ("Curt")
PIII ID and IP masquerading ("Gary R. Skuse, Ph.D.")
Re: HELP: Cannot ping between Win98 box and Redhat 5.1 server. ("Lloyd Keen")
Setting a 3c509 NIC to 10baseT ("Christopher A. Suleske")
Re: IP masquerading - blocking remote telnet ("mindspring")
Re: Minicom is sloooooooowwww (Oliver Saal - 376143)
Re: Samba and Win '98 ("Colonel Panic�")
Re: Creating Subnets (Dustin Puryear)
Re: Help lan newbie make W98 <==> Linux (Dustin Puryear)
Re: Problems with Netscape insisting on a network connection (Phill Edwards)
Where to find docs about DMZ? (Mark Lo)
Which NIC is good for Linux and Win98? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
smb status (John Hornblow)
Re: HELP - 3c589/Thinkpad 770X and ethernet random behavior... (David Hinds)
Re: ATM on FreeBSD or Linux ("Curt")
Re: Squid Setup ("Chris Olson")
Re: NT Logon with Linux username ("dpc")
IP Masquerade + X problem ("Roberto Gonz�lez")
IP Masquerade + X problem ("Roberto Gonz�lez")
Re: Linux < -- > Windows NT network (Luca Filipozzi)
Re: viewing Linux Xserver Xfree86 on NT ? (Robin Jackson)
Re: Routing by source IP (Bernd Eckenfels)
Re: Slightly Off-Topic: Ethernet vs. Token Ring (Bill Long)
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From: "Bono" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Direct Cable PPP connection between Linux and Win95
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 19:08:25 +0900
I have been trying to connect my Win95 notebook and Linux box through direct
serial cable called nullmodem.
Getty connection was successful, so I could login linux from win95 box.
However, pppd don't work.
I can login from Win95 side using Dialup Network because I installed a modem
emulator for nullmodem cable. The emulator works well and the nullmodem ppp
connection between win95 machines was successful. Moreover I could access
internet through the same nullmodem cable by way of an another win95 box
which is running Wingate server.
But, for linux box, I can't see ppp signal characters "}}}}}}}}}" when I
start pppd after login from win95. It just stop and I get error message
"There is no response from modem. Please check whether the modem is properly
connected" when I press F7 and wait.
I'm using RedHat 5.2, kernel 2.0.36.
9 pin female sockets are used for both machines.
agetty don't work.
mgetty works partially. I can see login message but It stops after I enter
passsword.
getty works well.
pppd ???????????????
What's wrong?
Please help me, I spent nearly two weeks to solve this problem.
mingu
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Segot)
Subject: DSL questions
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 01:33:17 GMT
I am thinking about getting ADSL as it has just become available in my
area. I am looking for recommendations or hints as to what hardware to
get or how to install and setup my connection .
~Chris
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (xcitor)
Subject: Re: DNS hosting
Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 19:44:03 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 03 May 1999 23:31:59 GMT,
Darren Greer wrote
from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>All depends on what you consider a decent price. And it also depends
>on how much control you want. Many places will charge like $50 a
>month for just html support, and then charge you extra for cgi-bin
>access, ftp/telnet access, etc etc.
According to the original post, he was looking for DNS hosting info. I
dunno where html, cgi-bin, etc entered into the picture. Anyhoo, I
understand that eskimo north has a serivce that will meet poster's
requirements... http://www.eskimo.com
>On Mon, 3 May 1999 19:16:04 -0400, Tom Jaeger
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>-->Does anyone know a place that will map a domain to a static ip for a
>-->reasonable price.
--
A priest advised Voltaire on his death bed to renounce the devil.
Replied Voltaire, "This is no time to make new enemies."
7:32pm up 23:46, 1 user, load average: 0.27, 0.12, 0.10
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Reply-To: "Curt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Curt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: gigabit ethernet
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 05:22:24 -0500
Take a look at:
http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/misc/100mbs.html
has gigabit info too.
Lance Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello!
>
> Doe's anyone know if there is support for gigabit ethernet on linux
> x86 platform?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lance Miller
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From: "Gary R. Skuse, Ph.D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PIII ID and IP masquerading
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 06:25:22 -0400
I am about to add a PIII box to my home network and wonder if the
embedded ID that has caused all the controversy lately will be passed
through my Linux IP masquerading firewall to the rest of the world.
Does anyone know?
-Gary
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From: "Lloyd Keen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP: Cannot ping between Win98 box and Redhat 5.1 server.
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 01:12:52 +1000
I had a similar problem with my 3com card. The card was actually in PNP mode
and Linux didnt seem to like it so I disabled the PNP abililty and manually
configured the IO and IRQ, rebooted linux and was pinging the 98 machine
straight away.
Dennis L. Droba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
s.net...
> I'am new to Linux and trying to network between my Win98 PC and my Linux
PC.
> My Win 98 box has a PCI Fast Ethernet DCI 21143 card, and my Linux box a
> 3COM 3C509B-TPO card. I am able to ping to each card on both PCs but I
> can't ping between computers.
>
> What have I done wrong???
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> ---Dennis Droba
>
>
>
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From: "Christopher A. Suleske" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Setting a 3c509 NIC to 10baseT
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:16:43 GMT
Setting up a 3com Etherlink III ISA card, detects the IRQ and IO
correctly, but the module loading indicates it is using the BNC port.
Went to Donald Becker's site... entered "xcvr=4" in the eth0 module
options under the kernel configurator (in linuxconf), no luck, tried
"xcvr=0" also, which is supposed to indicate the default (usually
10baseT). The module doesn't balk when loading, just loads in as BNC.
Chris
--
Tip: To reply to me by e-mail,
replace the "XXXX" in my reply-to address with "JJMA".
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From: "mindspring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IP masquerading - blocking remote telnet
Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 22:06:17 -0400
just dont start the telnet service in your services. If you have RH... run
setup and select services.
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From: Oliver Saal - 376143 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,apana.lists.os.linux.ppp,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Minicom is sloooooooowwww
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 11:34:42 +0200
"Zbigniew M. Strzempa" wrote:
> > Ok, my minicom is sooo slow. I type in a command it takes a few seconds to
> > respond. It is so slow connecting to my server that I time out before I can
> > type in my username and password. Any idea what is going on? Thanks.
>
> i'd try to figure out the speed settings between comm and modem device,
> which means speed settings of serial port.
>
> cheers
> max
I had the same problem .... I fixed it by changing my IRQ settings. Basically,
my internal modem creates a COM port which was conflicting with the address of
another port. All I had to do was simply change the conflicting port address and
*PRESTO* faster response from modem.
--
==============================================================
Oliver Saal Dept. of Computer Science
Tel:+27-21-6502670 University of Cape Town
http://www.cs.uct.ac.za/~osaal University-based web page
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From: "Colonel Panic�" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Samba and Win '98
Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 22:00:54 -0400
i must agree...encryption of samba passwd is one more bolt on the door...
Earl W. Harlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
I have setup a Samba server and I have all of my Windows '95 machines
logging into it just fine. I can see both the server and the workgroup in
Network Neighborhood. If I want to log into the Samba server, I double
click on the server and the resulting dialog box recognizes the user
properly (from the Microsoft Client logon) and asks for the users password.
Once supplied, it logs on correctly.
My problem is on the few Win '98 machines we have. The process is the same.
I can see both the workgroup and the Samba server in Network Neighborhood.
When I try to open the Samba server, it provides the same dialog box asking
for the password, but in Win '98, it sees the machine as IPC$ instead of the
user's logon name. Needless to say, I cannot supply the users name anywhere
and the password for the user does not work, of course.
Can anybody tell me what I need to change in Win '98 (registry or what) so
that it will supply the proper logon information to the Samba server?
thanks
Earl Harlow
Weather Modification, Inc.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dustin Puryear)
Subject: Re: Creating Subnets
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 11:30:23 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 01 May 1999 00:32:19 GMT, Darth Vader wrote:
>I have a cable modem, and would like to give other workstations access
>to the internet through one DHCP cable modem...... How do I go about
>assigning the other PC's IP numbers, do I just make them up???? Any
Use a DHCP server to assign the client machines an address. I just did
this for all our windows clients in the office and it works *great*.
--
Dustin Puryear
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dustin Puryear)
Subject: Re: Help lan newbie make W98 <==> Linux
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 11:32:30 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 30 Apr 1999 20:54:56 -0400, Ken Stadden wrote:
>Any pointers to Windows-Linux networking faq for newbies would be
>appreciated. Or direct advice.
>
>Here's my situation. I've had a no-brainer LAN at home connecting 2 or 3
>W95/98 systems for years. I recently got Red Hat Linux & XWindows up on one
>box, but don't know how to make Windows talk TCP/IP. After lots of reading
>and some experimenting, I'm asking for help.
Add the TCP/IP protocol to your network configuration.
>
>What's this post about the hosts.sam file in my Windows directory? Shall I
>put my Linux IP and domain info in there?
>From what I hear, windows more or less follows Berkely style
configuration for it's ip networking. Copy the hosts.sam to hosts and
fill it out just as if it were /etc/hosts.
--
Dustin Puryear
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Phill Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Problems with Netscape insisting on a network connection
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 20:35:15 +1000
I've sussed this one out. After lots of fiddling and preference changing
I realised it was being caused by something to do with mail. Eventually
I tracked it down to the default setting of "Check my mail every 10 mins".
Find it under Edit Preferences->Mail & Groups->Mail Server->More Options.
That easy! But it took a real long time to sort out.
Regards,
-- Phill --
Phill Edwards wrote:
> With both Netscape 4.51 and 4.07 I find that if I have entries in the mail
> server or news server fields in Edit->Preferences a dial-up gets initiated
> by diald when starting Netscape. Then Netscape freezes up until the dial-up
> has been initiated. If the modem is turned off it stays frozen and the only
> way to close Netscape is to kill it.
>
> I have of course made sure that the start and home pages are not "external"
> so that's not the problem.
>
> I've tried installing bind and dns cacheing but that just initiates a
> dial-up as soon as named starts in the init scripts which is even worse.
>
> Someone has suggested that I make my SMTP server be localhost rather than my
> ISP's SMTP server. Could this be the problem? What will I do about setting
> the news server?
>
> Surely there's an easy way to stop this? Is it a general problem that people
> have had with Netscape or is it just me?
> TIA,
> -- Phill --
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From: Mark Lo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Where to find docs about DMZ?
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 10:52:26 +0800
Hi,
Which HOWTO or any documents describe DMZ detailly?
Thanks,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Which NIC is good for Linux and Win98?
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 02:41:52 GMT
Can anybody suggest a good (but inexpensive) 10/100 base PCI ethernet Card
that is supported by both Linux and Windows 98 OS?
Thanks
Brian
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hornblow)
Subject: smb status
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 07:55:13 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
type: smb status:
smbd (pid 384) is running....
nmbd is stopped
is this why I cant see my linux server from my windoze workstation?
if so how do I start nmbd?
thanks
john
=====================================================
John Hornblow
homepage http://homepage.ihug.co.nz/~johnhb/
gliding page http://www.soar.co.nz/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Hinds)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: HELP - 3c589/Thinkpad 770X and ethernet random behavior...
Date: 3 May 1999 22:31:20 GMT
Sunil P. Khatri ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I am running 2.0.36, pcmcia version 3.0.9, on a Thinkpad 770X
: with a 3c589 network card.
:
: When I insert the network card, I sometimes get a good ethernet
: connection (about 50% of the time) and the rest of the time, the
: ethernet initialization does not get done.
Is the 50% completely random?
Does "cardctl eject ; cardctl insert" or "cardctl reset" help?
Check your system log for error messages. Check "ps xf" to see if
the network script is hung up somewhere.
: So I ran the ethernet initialization manually, using the following
: sequence of commands.
:
: ifconfig eth0 24.7.91.103 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
: route add -net 24.7.91.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 eth0
: route add default gw 24.7.91.1 eth0
:
: Again, about 50% of the times, when I do a "netstat -r", the
: netstat command seems to hang and does not mention the default
: route. Whenever I get a good ethernet connection, the netstat
: command mentions a default route
Try "netstat -rn". "netstat -r" may try to resolve addresses using
your nameservers, which will likely hang if the network connection is
acting up.
: I used to get "kernel: i82365: infinite loop in interrupt handler"
: messages in my /var/log/messages, perhaps these are related to the
: problem..
I don't know.
-- Dave Hinds
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Reply-To: "Curt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Curt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: ATM on FreeBSD or Linux
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 05:11:52 -0500
Take a look at http://lrcwww.epfl.ch/linux-atm/
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:7gm48s$h2f$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a Alcatel ADSL 1000 modem which talks to the PC via a
> 25mbps ATM connection. I would like to get the ADSL to work under
> Linux or FreeBSD (so that I can telecommute using VPN).
>
> Does 25mbps ATM card from Fore (ForeRunnerLe 25) or ENI
> work under FreeBSD?
>
> If so, what are the efforts required?
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Thanks.
>
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From: "Chris Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Squid Setup
Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 19:57:32 -0700
Check out: http://squid.nlanr.net/Squid/FAQ/FAQ.html
Chris Blaszczyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Sorry for this question. I am new at Linux and am getting the following
> error after running /usr/local/squid/bin/squid -z
> FATAL: Failed to make swap directory /usr/local/squid/cache/00: (13)
> Permission denied
>
> I am logged in as root. Any information would be appreciated.
>
>
>
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From: "dpc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: NT Logon with Linux username
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 02:21:43 -0400
I'm a newbie so please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that Samba
would be able to do this quite easily. I recall seeing a setting in
/etc/smb.conf which allowed the Linux box to be the Primary Domain
Controller? - I'm not sure if that's what you want though. In any case, I
believe Samba _can_ accept Windows logins and a share can be set up (already
part of smb.conf by default, I believe) such that their home directory would
be mounted.
dpc
alphaomega wrote in message <7glls0$5pn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hi All....
>
>At the University we have many Windows NT 4.0 Workstation and we would like
>to make it to validate username and password using Linux RedHat 5.2 as
>account manager, and each time that the user logon in the NT Workstation,
it
>would mount it's home directory stored in the Linux Box. I know that in
order
>to setup this, NFS and NIS is involved, but I couldn't make it....
>
>Does anyone know another way to do this?
>
>Thanks
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From: "Roberto Gonz�lez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: IP Masquerade + X problem
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 13:17:14 +0200
Hi
I have a Linux server and i would like to use it for give Internet
access for other users in my work group. I use IP masquerade and it
works fine except that when i try to use the X window system, the
display hangs and i cannot work anymore on it.
I read that IP Masquerade could cause some problems to X. Does it mean
that i must use other procedures, different of IP Masq, tha give the
Internet access? I cannot leave using X window because i use many
graphic application.
I appreciate some suggestions about this problem.
Thanks
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From: "Roberto Gonz�lez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: IP Masquerade + X problem
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 13:18:01 +0200
Hi
I have a Linux server and i would like to use it for give Internet
access for other users in my work group. I use IP masquerade and it
works fine except that when i try to use the X window system, the
display hangs and i cannot work anymore on it.
The X windows leave to work since i compile the kernel with IP masq
activated.
I read that IP Masquerade could cause some problems to X. Does it mean
that i must use other procedures, different of IP Masq, tha give the
Internet access? I cannot leave using X window because i use many
graphic application.
I appreciate some suggestions about this problem.
Thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luca Filipozzi)
Subject: Re: Linux < -- > Windows NT network
Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 19:21:07 -0700
In article <7glinf$cqp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
> I have a 3-port + 1 uplink port Asante NetExtender hub.
Hub basics: an uplink port has an internal cross-over. This allows you to
use a standard 10BaseT cable to connect this hub's uplink port to the
normal port of another hub or switch. In this way, you only have to have
one cable hanging around... the straight through kind. Otherwise, if you
have both on hand (straight through and cross-over) and you don't do a
good job of labelling, you always waste time figuring out whether you
have the right cable.
> Which port should
> I connect the 10BaseT cable to?
>From computer to hub: to the normal ports with a "normal" straight-thu
cable.
> If I connect it to any of the three normal
> hub ports, they light up,
Which is good. Leave it in the normal port.
> but if I connect it to the uplink port, the
> light doesn't light up.
Which is good. Don't plug your computer into the uplink port.
> When I try to do: route add -net 192.168.0.0
> ...it says:
> SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable
This means that your interface (eth0 or whatever) doesn't have an ip
address in the 192.168.0.0 network. Please post the output of the
following commands:
# ifconfig
# route -n
This will help us to diagnose.
> ...but when I do: route add -net 192.168.0.2 (the ip for the NT box)
> ... it says:
> SIOCADDRT: Invalid argument
You can't do this. You're trying to make use a host address (192.168.0.2)
as a network address (192.168.0.0).
> How can I set up the approptiate routing?
> NOTE: This is my Kernel IP routing table:
You should type
# route add -net 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0
Note that the mask argument is important here since you have chosen
192.168.0 as your network. All bits 0 (integer 0) or all bits 1 (integer
255) are special values in terms of networking numbers. All bits 0 is
usually the network address while all bits one is usually netmask.
Therefore, I recommend you use 192.168.1.0 as your subnet rather than
192.168.0.0.
Please post the output with hostname resolution disabled. From this
routing table, we can't see what pc404hp's ip address is. You can do this
by typing:
# route -n
> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface
> pc404hp * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 1 1 eth0
> 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 1 1 lo
> default pc404hp 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 1 0 eth0
--
Luca Filipozzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robin Jackson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: viewing Linux Xserver Xfree86 on NT ?
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 13:04:16 +0100
In article <65vX2.3927$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Larry Brasfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am just refining Michael's tips a little.
>His advice is essentially correct. In
>fact, it applies for use of X in general.
>
>Michael P. Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:B6uX2.1201$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> 1. Start your xserver on the pc. You may need to configure it to run in
>> "Single window mode", or whatever.
>
>The MiX server (MicroImages X server as
>referred to below) comes as a set of .exe's
>for the Windows platform. The icon that is
>installed launches TNTSTART.exe which
>starts both the server itself, XS.exe, and a
>window manager TWM.exe. (I don't know
>how the window manager runs on the server
>instead of the client as is usual with X, but
>it doesn't matter here.)
>
>To use (one of) the Linux window managers,
>(KDE in my case), just be sure XS.exe has
>been started first on the Windows machine,
>the one whose net name is "pcaddress" here.
>
>For your Mac, I'm sure there is a similar split
>of responsibility among executable images,
>but they will be named differently, of course.
>
>> 2. Telnet into your linux box, login as your userid
>
>I don't think the MiX server enforces any kind
>of access privilege based on userid. You can
>also start this from the Linux console if you do
>not have telnet on your Mac.
>
>> 3. set your DISPLAY variable: "export DISPLAY=pcaddress:0.0"
>
>That's the bash or ksh invocation. Under csh or
>tcsh you would "setenv DISPLAY pcaddress:0.0".
>
>> 4. run your .xinit or /etc/X11/xinit verify these file locs first I
>> can't remember where they live.
>
>It is sufficient to start the window manager
>at this point. For example, I do "startkde".
>
>If this was too detailed an explanation, I
>apologize. It is easy to gloss over some
>non-obvious details.
Hi
Your detail is fine, HOWEVER....
I followed the exact details as above and then type startx it STILL starts
up on my laptop not the remote X machine.
Is there something I am missing?
Robin'
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From: Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Routing by source IP
Date: 4 May 1999 03:48:21 GMT
Gabriele Bartolini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there any program to do that?
> D'you know if it ss in project for future versions of kernel? or maybe
> for new distributions?
The 2.2 kernel can do it. You need to get the ip_route2 tools to manage the
routing policy tables. See the Documentation dir in the kernel source for
the tools you need and the way it works.
Greetings
Bernd
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From: Bill Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Slightly Off-Topic: Ethernet vs. Token Ring
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 08:00:22 GMT
Monte
In my experience, i have found the ethernet cards to be not only more
reliable but more forgiving.
the token ring cards my company uses are 3com (velocity isa, pci
various versions) which supposedly are right up there with the "best" as
far as quality and speed. however, they run about 200-300 bucks a pop.
not only are they a major pain in the keister to install(we normally
have to boot them to dos then disable the plugNpray functionality) but
they will lock up the computer if you lose your network connection. I
cant tell you how many times i have seen the blue screen of death
because our network staff doesnt have one of the servers set up
correctly. from time to time, just one pc or one server crashing or even
hanging will bring down the entire network. granted, our network admins
are no brain children and the network is WAY screwed up, but still.
the ethernet cards i buy for my home network are little el cheapos.
30-100 bucks a pop. i have used a number of them and have NEVER had a
problem installing one. additionally, if you pull out your network
cable, you can just plug it back in and voila. you have your connection
back. also 100MBps is considerably faster than the 16Mbps you get with
token ring.(though except for the later models, your computer's bus
speed is only 16Mbps too)
now, part of this stems from the actual architecture of how the token
ring and the ethernet pass data back and forth. Still tho, I have worked
a lot with both of them, and the ethernet will be my choice, hands down,
if i ever need to set up a large network. i have never had an ethernet
card go bad and have been using them for about 3 years now.(granted,
that means i've only seen about 10 of them operating, but 10 out of 10
is a better percentage than you get out of most other computer periphs
these days)
it sounds to me like your IT lady, nice as she is, is a bit biased.
However, I'll be the last person to say she doesnt know what she's
talking about. she obviously has her reasons for choosing the way she
does. but in my experience, the ethernet is much much more reliable
than the token rings.(i suppose i should qualify that to avoid flames:
my 3com, linksys, etherexpress, and etherexpress pro ethernet cards are
considerably more reliable than the 3com tokenlink velocity isa and pci
cards. heheheheh..just kiddin folks)
so thats my .02
bill
Monte Milanuk wrote:
>
> I realize that this is a little off-topic here, but hold the
> flamethrowers, guys!!
>
> I work for a state public power district, which uses almost exclusively
> tokenring networking. The standard PC card for the laptops is a Madge
> SmartCard. I asked the local IT admin (great lady; let me download RH
> 6.0 etc. at night to my laptop) why we use token ring vs ethernet, and
> her answer was that token ring was much more reliable, saying that at
> her previous job, if the weather had been rainy as it had here for the
> past few days, she would have been replacing ethernet connections left
> and right. Granted I have basically no experience w/ networking, but I
> _am_ a equipment maintenance tech. for the substation distribution
> equipment, and this sounds more like a case of bad install than
> ethernets fault. How 'bout the input of some networking gurus who work
> with this stuff on a daily basis?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Monte Milanuk
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