Linux-Networking Digest #277, Volume #11 Tue, 25 May 99 09:14:06 EDT
Contents:
Re: What ports does SSH use? ("Jan Johansson")
Re: What ports does SSH use? ("Jan Johansson")
Want people to be able to ftp-connect. (razoon)
Re: Two samba installed... Suse ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
NFS with Redhat 6 server and clients (Jon Paterson)
Re: ppp and 'winmodem' ("Jan Johansson")
NIS/ypbind problem? (Asher Miller)
NIS/ypbind problem? (Asher Miller)
Re: Call me clueless... (Greg Franks)
Re: tcpdump: Socket type not supported ("F.P. Groeneveld")
Re: tcpdump: Socket type not supported (Leon Harris)
Re: Call me clueless... (Greg Franks)
Re: DSL questions (Michael Powe)
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From: "Jan Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What ports does SSH use?
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 13:23:58 +0200
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From: "Jan Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What ports does SSH use?
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 13:24:12 +0200
ONLY 22 even
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (razoon)
Subject: Want people to be able to ftp-connect.
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 12:31:38 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I want people to be able to ftp to my linuxbox.
Next follows my ipchains-rules.
In this state they are not able to make an ftp-connection to my
linuxbox.
My question: What should i change in the rules so people can make an
ftp-connection to download from the home/ftp/pub directory,
and be able to upload to the /home/ftp/upload directory.
hosts.deny:
ALL:ALL
hosts:allow
in.ftpd: 192.168.0.1, 192.168.0.3
in.telnetd: 192.168.0.1, 192.168.0.3
ALL: 127.0.0.1, 192.168.0.1, 192.168.0.3
192.168..0.3 is my linuxserver
192.168.0.1 is a windoze client where i work on.
Inetd.conf everything commented out except ftp and telnet.
....These are my ipcains-rules
.
#!/bin/sh
#Dit script bevat alle firewallrules
#let op: hanteer bij het aanroepen van externe commando's altijd het
volledige
#pad ernaar toe (de ippp-daemon kent geen paden)
IC="/sbin/ipchains"
ANYWHERE="0/0"
EXT="eth0"
LOCALINT="eth1"
#vul bij localnet het complete subnet op met het netmask in
decimaalvorm
LOCALNET="192.168.0.0/24"
SMTP_SERVER="smtp.multiweb.nl"
NEWS_SERVER="news.multiweb.nl"
NEWS_SERVER_2="news.soundblaster.com"
POP_SERVER="pop3.multiweb.nl"
GAMEBOX_SERVER="pop.gamebox.net"
FNMAIL_SERVER="mail.fnmail.com"
NS1="195.114.251.18"
#NS2="idem voor dns-server2"
LOOPBACK_INTERFACE="lo"
LOOPBACK="127.0.0.0/8"
MULTICAST="240.0.0.0/3"
BROADCAST_0="0.0.0.0"
BROADCAST_1="255.255.255.255"
PRIVPORTS="0:1023"
UNPRIVPORTS="1024:65535"
RESTRICTED_PORTS="2049"
RESTRICTED_OPENWINDOWS="2000"
RESTRICTED_XWINDOWS="1022:1023"
SOCKS="1080"
TRACE_SOURCE="32769:65535"
TRACE_DEST="33434:33523"
UNREAL_PORTS="7775:7777"
ICI="/sbin/ipchains -A input -i $EXT"
ICO="/sbin/ipchains -A output -i $EXT"
ICF="/sbin/ipchains -A forward -i $EXT"
#eerst flushen van alle eventueel bestaande (-F) rules, chains (-X)
#en het resetten van de counters (-Z)
$IC -F
$IC -Z input
$IC -Z output
$IC -Z forward
#zet eerst alles open, dit vanwege de tijd die nodig is om dit script
te
#doorlopen
#$IC -P input ACCEPT
#$IC -P output ACCEPT
#$IC -P forward ACCEPT
# enable forwarding
echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
# disable spoofing
#echo " ... Setting up IP spoofing protection ..."
#echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/rp_filter
# disable pingflood
echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all
#echo 3 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echoreply_rate
# Maak de weg vrij voor masqueraded pakketten ( voor de pc's in het
LAN )
$ICF -j MASQ -s $LOCALNET
# Sta alles vanuit het LAN naar de buitenwereld toe
$IC -A input -i $LOCALINT -s $LOCALNET -j ACCEPT
$IC -A output -i $LOCALINT -d $LOCALNET -j ACCEPT
#ophalen IP-adres van externe-interface
#let op: dit script wordt door ip-up aangeroepen en kent geen path,
vandaar dat
#de ifconfig,grep en cut-commands met volledige paden worden genoemd
IPADD=`/sbin/ifconfig eth0 | /bin/grep -i 'inet addr' | /usr/bin/cut
-f 2 -d: | /usr/bin/cut -f 1 -d' '`
echo "IP address van externe-interface: $IPADD" >> /var/log/messages
echo $IPADD
#ICMP
$ICI -p icmp -s $ANYWHERE 0 -d $IPADD -j ACCEPT
$ICI -p icmp -s $ANYWHERE 3 -d $IPADD -j ACCEPT
$ICI -p icmp -s $ANYWHERE 4 -d $IPADD -j ACCEPT
$ICI -p icmp -s $ANYWHERE 11 -d $IPADD -j ACCEPT
$ICI -p icmp -s $ANYWHERE 12 -d $IPADD -j ACCEPT
$ICO -p icmp -d $ANYWHERE -s $IPADD 3 -j ACCEPT
$ICO -p icmp -d $ANYWHERE -s $IPADD 4 -j ACCEPT
$ICO -p icmp -d $ANYWHERE -s $IPADD 8 -j ACCEPT
$ICO -p icmp -d $ANYWHERE -s $IPADD 12 -j ACCEPT
# do not forget to protect yourself from mistakes
# loopback, unlimited traffic
$IC -A input -i $LOOPBACK_INTERFACE -j ACCEPT
$IC -A output -i $LOOPBACK_INTERFACE -j ACCEPT
# TCP unprived ports
$ICI -p tcp -y -d $IPADD $RESTRICTED_PORTS -l -j DENY
$ICI -p tcp -y -d $IPADD $RESTRICTED_OPENWINDOWS -l -j DENY
$ICI -p tcp -y -d $IPADD $RESTRICTED_XWINDOWS -l -j DENY
$ICI -p tcp -y -s $ANYWHERE -d $IPADD $SOCKS -j DENY
# UDP unprivedports
$ICI -p udp -d $IPADD $RESTRICTED_PORTS -l -j DENY
#UDP traceroute
$ICI -p udp -s $ANYWHERE $TRACE_SOURCE -d $IPADD $TRACE_DEST -l -j
DENY
# DNS client
$ICI -p udp -s $NS1 53 -d $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -j ACCEPT
$ICO -p udp -s $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -d $NS1 53 -j ACCEPT
$ICI -p tcp ! -y -s $NS1 53 -d $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -j ACCEPT
$ICO -p tcp -s $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -d $NS1 53 -j ACCEPT
#$ICI -p udp -s $NS2 53 -d $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -j ACCEPT
#$ICO -p udp -s $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -d $NS2 53 -j ACCEPT
#$ICI -p tcp ! -y -s $NS2 53 -d $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -j ACCEPT
#$ICO -p tcp -s $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -d $NS2 53 -j ACCEPT
#http-client
$ICI -p tcp ! -y -s $ANYWHERE 80 -d $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -j ACCEPT
$ICO -p tcp -s $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -d $ANYWHERE 80 -j ACCEPT
#https-client
#$ICI -p tcp ! -y -s $ANYWHERE 443 -d $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -j ACCEPT
#$ICO -p tcp -s $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -d $ANYWHERE 443 -j ACCEPT
# ntp time client
#$ICI -p tcp -s clock.psu.edu 37 -d $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -j ACCEPT
#$ICO -p tcp -s $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -d clock.psu.edu 37 -j ACCEPT
#telnet client
$ICI -p tcp ! -y -s $ANYWHERE 23 -d $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -j ACCEPT
$ICO -p tcp -s $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -d $ANYWHERE 23 -j ACCEPT
#news server
$ICI -p tcp ! -y -s $NEWS_SERVER 119 -d $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -j ACCEPT
$ICO -p tcp -s $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -d $NEWS_SERVER 119 -j ACCEPT
#news server 2
$ICI -p tcp ! -y -s $NEWS_SERVER_2 119 -d $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -j
ACCEPT
$ICO -p tcp -s $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -d $NEWS_SERVER_2 119 -j ACCEPT
#$ICI -p tcp ! -y -s $NEWS_SERVER_NLNET 119 -d $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -j
ACCEPT
#$ICO -p tcp -s $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -d $NEWS_SERVER_NLNET 119 -j
ACCEPT
#finger client
#$ICI -p tcp ! -y -s $ANYWHERE 79 -d $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -j ACCEPT
#$ICO -p tcp -s $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -d $ANYWHERE 79 -j ACCEPT
#AUTH client
#$ICI -p tcp ! -y -s $ANYWHERE 113 -d $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -j ACCEPT
#$ICO -p tcp -s $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -d $ANYWHERE 113 -j ACCEPT
#AUTH server (reject!)
#$ICI -p tcp -s $ANYWHERE -d $IPADD 113 -j REJECT
# SMTP client
$ICI -p tcp ! -y -s $ANYWHERE 25 -d $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -j ACCEPT
$ICO -p tcp -s $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -d $ANYWHERE 25 -j ACCEPT
# SMTP server, haal commentaar weg indien deze machine doorlopend aan
het net
# verbonden is en als smtp-server moet gaan fungeren.
#$ICI -p tcp -s $ANYWHERE $UNPRIVPORTS -d $IPADD 25 -j ACCEPT
#$ICO -p tcp ! -y -s $IPADD 25 -d $ANYWHERE $UNPRIVPORTS -j ACCEPT
# POP3 clients
$ICI -p tcp ! -y -s $POP_SERVER 110 -d $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -j ACCEPT
$ICO -p tcp -s $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -d $POP_SERVER 110 -j ACCEPT
$ICI -p tcp ! -y -s $GAMEBOX_SERVER 110 -d $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -j
ACCEPT
$ICO -p tcp -s $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -d $GAMEBOX_SERVER 110 -j ACCEPT
$ICI -p tcp ! -y -s $FNMAIL_SERVER 110 -d $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -j
ACCEPT
$ICO -p tcp -s $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -d $FNMAIL_SERVER 110 -j ACCEPT
# ICQ client
$ICI -p tcp ! -y -s $ANYWHERE 2000:4000 -d $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -j
ACCEPT
$ICO -p tcp -s $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -d $ANYWHERE 2000:4000 -j ACCEPT
$ICI -p udp -s $ANYWHERE 4000 -d $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -j ACCEPT
$ICO -p udp -s $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -d $ANYWHERE 4000 -j ACCEPT
# FTP client
$ICI -p tcp ! -y -s $ANYWHERE 21 -d $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -j ACCEPT
$ICO -p tcp -s $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -d $ANYWHERE 21 -j ACCEPT
$ICI -p tcp -s $ANYWHERE 20 -d $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -j ACCEPT
$ICO -p tcp ! -y -s $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -d $ANYWHERE 20 -j ACCEPT
$ICI -p tcp ! -y -s $ANYWHERE $UNPRIVPORTS -d $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -j
ACCEPT
$ICO -p tcp -s $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -d $ANYWHERE $UNPRIVPORTS -j ACCEPT
# WHOIS client
#$ICI -p tcp ! -y -s $ANYWHERE 43 -d $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -j ACCEPT
#$ICO -p tcp -s $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -d $ANYWHERE 43 -j ACCEPT
# UNREAL
#$ICI -p tcp ! -y -s $ANYWHERE $UNPRIVPORTS -d $IPADD $UNREAL_PORTS -j
ACCEPT
#$ICO -p tcp -s $IPADD $UNREAL_PORTS -d $ANYWHERE $UNPRIVPORTS -j
ACCEPT
# geen mogelijkheden om doubleclick.net aan te kiezen
$IC -A output -d 199.95.207.0/24 -j REJECT
$IC -A output -d 199.95.208.0/24 -j REJECT
# enable logging voor geweigerde pakketten
$ICI -p tcp -d $IPADD -l -j DENY
$ICI -p udp -d $IPADD $PRIVPORTS -l -j DENY
$ICI -p udp -d $IPADD $UNPRIVPORTS -l -j DENY
$ICI -p icmp -s $ANYWHERE 5 -d $IPADD -l -j DENY
$ICI -p icmp -s $ANYWHERE 13:18 -d $IPADD -l -j DENY
# Sluit af met een default policy om alle niet genoemde services af te
sluiten
$IC -P input DENY
$IC -P output DENY
$IC -P forward DENY
#end of script
## Reset firewall-rules
# echo "Setting firewall-rules to match dynamic IP-address" >>
#/var/log/messages
# ./etc/ppp/firewall-rules
# echo "Done setting firewall" >> /var/log/messages
## Get internet-clock
# rdate -p -s clock.psu.edu >> /var/log/messages
## reset hardwareclock with internetclock
# /sbin/clock >> /var/log/messages
## dump result in /var/log/messages
# date >> /var/log/messages
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Two samba installed... Suse
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 12:37:26 GMT
Thanks a lot.
I did assume uninstalling the samba package with YaST would the same,
but it did not...
rpm really got read of all files.
Thanks,
Philippe
On Mon, 24 May 1999 13:59:08 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joachim
Zobel) wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>I've got Suse Linux. Samba was installed. I've downloaded the new
>>samba version and have installed it normally with ./configure and
>>'make install'.
>>It has installed it into /usr/local/samba. Correct
>>
>>But Suse did install it into /usr/var/samba and also in /usr/bin
>>directly...
>>
>>uninstalling samba thanks to Suse installation (YaST) did not remove
>>the previous version.
>
>Suse (at least 5.2 or higher) is rpm based. So you could try rpm for
>uninstalling. There should also be lists of all files in a package
>somwhere in your suse distribution. (maybe /var/adm/packages).
>
>Hth,
>Joachim
>
> --
>"I read the news today oh boy" - The Beatles - A Day In The Life
>
>Althoug this message has a valid From header, replies
>to [EMAIL PROTECTED] where user = nc-zobeljo
>are preferred.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Paterson)
Subject: NFS with Redhat 6 server and clients
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 12:05:34 +0100
I am having a frustrating problem with a Redhat 6 server that was
previously a redhat 5.2 server rebuilt.
I have a Linux client (redhat 6.0 also) that is trying to connect to the
server and is always getting the "permission denied" message.
There is nothing wrong with the exports file, I have even deleted it and
done the configuration through Linuxconf, and the same error exists.
I think that it may have something to do with Knfsd, but am not sure
where to look.
can anyone help or point me in the right direction?
regards,
Jon Paterson
(remove the _nospam to reply via e-mail)
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From: "Jan Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ppp and 'winmodem'
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 09:48:46 +0200
Jackj wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>> To repeat: YOU CAN'T USE WINMODEMS WITH LINUX.
>
>or NT or anything other than w95/98.
Wrong, some Winmodems (one USR and a cpl of LUCENTS) now have WinNT drivers.
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From: Asher Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: NIS/ypbind problem?
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 00:58:05 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Running SuSE 6.1. Trying to set up NIS. Getting the following error:
YPBINDPROC_DOMAIN: Domain not bound
No such map... Reason: Can't bind to server which serves this
domain.
I've set everything up: yp.conf, hosts, the yp/domain.net directory with
the maps, etc. I'm running ypbind. But I'm still running into problems.
I'm running SuSE 6.1, 2.2.5 kernel, with libc-99.4.14-0. No glibc. Also:
there's no /usr/sbin/portmap, but I'm not sure if I need it or not; YaST
seems to think that RPC and portmap are already installed as part of
generic networking package.
Many questions.... thanks in advance.
--Asher
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From: Asher Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: NIS/ypbind problem?
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 00:58:51 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Running SuSE 6.1. Trying to set up NIS. Getting the following error:
YPBINDPROC_DOMAIN: Domain not bound
No such map... Reason: Can't bind to server which serves this
domain.
I've set everything up: yp.conf, hosts, the yp/domain.net directory with
the maps, etc. I'm running ypbind. But I'm still running into problems.
I'm running SuSE 6.1, 2.2.5 kernel, with libc-99.4.14-0. No glibc. Also:
there's no /usr/sbin/portmap, but I'm not sure if I need it or not; YaST
seems to think that RPC and portmap are already installed as part of
generic networking package.
Many questions.... thanks in advance.
--Asher
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From: Greg Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Call me clueless...
Date: 25 May 1999 12:44:38 GMT
>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Lines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Tim> Where did you get your 172.20 addresses from? As I recall,
Tim> these are not private addresses. That's OK if you have real,
Tim> registered addresses in what you are calling your private
Tim> network. Most of us don't.
172.20 is a private network. See:
http://www.ns.itd.umich.edu/groups/UMnet-Routing/UAssignedPrivateIP.html
----
Private IP Network Numbers
Private IP network numbers are IP networks that have been designated
as networks which institutions can use internally. For more
information, see RFC 1918, "Address Allocation for Private Internets".
Table 1: Private IP Address Space
Class Starting Ending Number CIDR Representation
Number
A 10.0.0.0 10.255.255.255 10/8
B 172.16.0.0 172.31.255.255 172.16/12
C 192.168.0.0 192.168.255.255 192.168/16
--
__@ Greg Franks, (613) 520-5726 <| _~@ __O
_`\<,_ Systems Engineering, Carleton University, |O\ -^\<;^\<,
(*)/ (*) Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K1S 5B6. (*)--(*)%---/(*)
"Where do you want to go today?" Outside.
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From: "F.P. Groeneveld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: tcpdump: Socket type not supported
Date: 25 May 1999 12:50:04 GMT
Leon Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Hi.
: tcpdump doesn't work on ip numbers, it runs on iterfaces.
: try
: tcpdump -i eth0 (or whatever the interface is and see how you go)
: cheers,
: leon
: Quoll Technology
I'll try this when I get home. I thought I copied the example I gave,
directly from the man page, though.
Cheers,
Derk
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From: Leon Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: tcpdump: Socket type not supported
Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 03:53:49 +0800
Hi.
tcpdump doesn't work on ip numbers, it runs on iterfaces.
try
tcpdump -i eth0 (or whatever the interface is and see how you go)
cheers,
leon
Quoll Technology
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From: Greg Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Call me clueless...
Date: 25 May 1999 12:45:45 GMT
>>>>> "Greg" == Greg Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Greg> I am trying to use a RH 5.2 box as a firewall with three
Greg> ethernet cards... There are three subnets, one connected to
Greg> the big bad internet (call it eth0, 123.123.123.23, its
Greg> connected to 123.123.123.22 at the isp), one connected to a
Greg> public local net with external IP address (say eth1
Greg> 123.123.124.1) and one connected to a private local net
Greg> (eth2 172.20.201.1). The firewall can ping to hosts on each
Greg> of the three subnets, and vice versa. However, I cannot get
Greg> hosts on the private net to ping hosts on the public local
Greg> net (ie. 172.20.201.10 -> 123.123.124.5), nor vice versa
Greg> (couldn't test the big bad internet because the ISP hasn't
Greg> connected the wire in yet :-( ).
Greg> In /etc/sysconfig/network on the firewall machine.
Greg> FORWARD_IPV4=true GATEWAY=123.123.123.22 GATEWAYDEV=eth0
Greg> Clearly, I am missing something, but I can't figure out
Greg> what. Perhaps it's because I have three cards installed on
Greg> the machine and that's a touch beyond the standard RH
Greg> install scripts (I guess I should have stuck with
Greg> slakware...)
Greg> Signed... ...perplexed.
Here's what route -n says...
% /sbin/route -n
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface
216.58.91.168 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.252 U 0 0 2 eth0
216.58.91.172 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.252 U 0 0 1 eth1
172.20.201.1 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 1 eth1
127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 4 lo
0.0.0.0 216.58.91.169 0.0.0.0 UG 1 0 1 eth0
%
The ISP has assigned the block 168-175 which I have subnetted into
168-171 (ISP side of firewall) and 172-175 (Public local net side of
firewall). 216.58.91.174 (the public machine on the inside of the
firewall) can ping the firewall, but not beyond.
My guess is that IP forwarding is not enabled in the kernel (Redhat
5.2 `custom' install). Is there a way to tell one way or the other?
2.0.35 can handle subnetting of class C networks n'est pas?
Or, maybe I have done something totally clueless.
signed...
...frustrated
--
__@ Greg Franks, (613) 520-5726 <| _~@ __O
_`\<,_ Systems Engineering, Carleton University, |O\ -^\<;^\<,
(*)/ (*) Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K1S 5B6. (*)--(*)%---/(*)
"Where do you want to go today?" Outside.
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DSL questions
Date: 24 May 1999 23:29:32 -0700
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>>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen Carville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Stephen> Chris wrote:
>> On Sat, 08 May 1999 14:03:03 GMT, bryan
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in comp.os.linux.networking:
>> >: > first dsl customer and guinea pig. i'm paying 200.00 a
>> month for the >: > service and 12.00 a month for leasing the
>> modem. at 768k up and down, >: > thats amazingly cheap. thats
>> half of a t1 at less than 1/5 of the
>> >: Wow! 200/month! I'm 2x that spped on my cable modem at
>> 40/month!
>> >but cable modems (the topology) can die quickly when there's
>> lots of >shared use. its like one huge collision domain (sort
>> of). whereas >adsl is more like a switched network. more
>> users on the net don't >-have- to take the whole thing down.
>> That's still a high price. I'm paying $53 (Canadian, tax
>> included) per month for ADSL, with no modem surcharge. The
>> $100 installation fee was even refunded after I had been
>> on-line for a year. The company only guarantees 1Mb speed, but
>> I'm close enough to the switch to get 2.6Mb.
Stephen> I am not convinced that DSL is really such a good deal.
Stephen> Bryan's rate is just about right for the US market. I
Stephen> pay about $95 per month for 368K in both directions and
Stephen> this is one of the cheaper rates available.
Well, I just signed up for DSL here & it's $40/mo for the 256k
bracket. Which is fine with me. $205 for the modem/netcard +
throwing the switch to turn on the service. $80/mo for 768k.
My question is, doesn't the cable modem tie you to the cable company's
provider? With DSL, I get to go with my choice of the major local
providers -- all of them provide DSL connectivity.
mp
- --
Michael Powe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Portland, Oregon USA http://www.trollope.org
"There are certain rights that a woman loses when she becomes a
wife." -- Farrah Fawcett
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