Linux-Networking Digest #512, Volume #11 Sat, 12 Jun 99 15:13:42 EDT
Contents:
Re: dns setup? ("Andrey Smirnov")
Re: Telnet again (teeth)
Re: How do I get Linux to use the Proxy (MS Proxy dial-out) on an NT server?
("Andrey Smirnov")
Re: samba's running ok - but what is SWAT ? (Alfred)
Re: timeout on telnet login (Lee Allen)
Re: dns question ("Michael Faurot")
Re: Linux & Cybercafe (David Knight)
Re: Samba and my HP500 ("David Eno")
Re: IP Adresses (Jim)
Re: ISO VT320 emulator with key-bindings for Oracle Forms (Peter da Silva)
PPP connection speed (D. Michael Basinger)
Re: ADSL not talking to my box.. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Setting up two ethernet cards -Please help (frank)
Re: ISO VT320 emulator with key-bindings for Oracle Forms (Peter da Silva)
Re: 3 nic cards in one Linux server (Bob G)
Re: SOHO fast eithernet kit and linux (Greg Fruth)
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From: "Andrey Smirnov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: dns setup?
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 11:34:28 -0700
Hello,
Check this site out:
http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/DNS-HOWTO.html
Good luck!
Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7jq698$aih$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Im trying to setup a dns server on my linux box redhat 6.0 for educational
> reasons. But am habing some problems I was wondering if someone could
send
> me there config file named.boot and other relevant files just so i can see
> how its setup and works. I would appreciate it. Thanks
>
> Burton
>
>
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Crossposted-To: force9.tech.linux
Subject: Re: Telnet again
From: teeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 11 Jun 1999 12:28:52 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic) writes:
<snip>
>
> Why? su only asks for the user´s password, so if I manage to login as a user
> (knowing this user´s password) who is su-to-root-authorized, I´ve already won.
> No need to additionally crack root, or is there?
yup, there is, to su root you need the root password...
t
--
money is a sign of poverty
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From: "Andrey Smirnov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I get Linux to use the Proxy (MS Proxy dial-out) on an NT server?
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 11:28:09 -0700
Hello,
For Netscape & FTP, just use your browser's manual proxy settings:
1) Open Netscape.
2) Go to Edit--> Preferences --> Advanced --> Proxy.
3) Choose 'Manual proxy configuration' --> View --> Enter your MS-Proxy
server's IP address for http and ftp proxy, including port 80 (default for
MSP).
As far as using any other programs, it's limited to what MS supports and you
have to configure your Linux box to use 'transparent proxy'.
Check out this site:
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q177/1/53.ASP
Good luck!
Sneek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have an NT Server running MS Proxy which dials out when one of the
> Workstations access the internet. How do I get Linux to recognize it?
> Or so Netscape/IRC/FTP will work? Is third party software is coming to
> mind? If so what do I get?
>
> Thanx for any response.
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From: Alfred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: samba's running ok - but what is SWAT ?
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 18:27:53 GMT
Bob wrote:
>
> got smb running fine...
> was curious...
Congratulation - you can forget swat.
(swat is a configuration tool for smb, based on http, using the swat
daemon on port 901. After activation swat in /etc/inetd and
/etc/services you can use it whit http://yourhostname:901 - DO NOT TRY
IT NOW - first make a backup of your running configuration! You meight
loose it)
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MfG, Alfred
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lee Allen)
Subject: Re: timeout on telnet login
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 18:41:33 GMT
That file exists on my system, but the man page doesn't.
Can you provide any additional information?
-Lee Allen
On 11 Jun 1999 16:55:17 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Yung) wrote:
>Lee Allen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>: This is probably a really dumb question.
>
>: I attempt to login to a Linux system via telnet. The login prompt
>: appears on my screen. I don't answer it. After a minute, it gives up
>: and disconnects me.
>
>: Now clearly some program thinks it is supposed to timeout after 1
>: minute. Which program is timing out? login, I guess. How is the
>: program told the timeout parameter? I can't find anything in the man
>: pages for login or telnetd.
>
>: My goal is to eliminate the timeout for telnet logins, ideally, for
>: specific classes of devices. Specifically, our Network Stations, cuz
>: once the login prompt disappears, it's a pain to get it back.
>
>: Thanks.
>
>See "/etc/login.defs" and "man login.defs".
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From: "Michael Faurot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: dns question
Date: 12 Jun 1999 15:54:45 GMT
David Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I am have bind 8something running on my RH5.2 computer. Very soon it
: is going to be used as a gateway to the internet, and I was wondering
: if I have to list the dns address of my isp on my windows clients?
: Can I just put the ip address of my dns server/gateway on my private
: network in the dns information area in windows? Can or will my dns
: forward internet requests to my isp? These questions are from a newbie
: so talk slowly and use small words.
Read the DNS HOWTO which will explain how to setup your Linux computer
as a caching DNS server, which your Win32 clients can connect to.
http://metalab.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/DNS-HOWTO.html
--
==============================================================================
Michael | mfaurot | I'm dressing up in an ill-fitting IVY-LEAGUE SUIT!!
Faurot | atww.org | Too late...
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From: David Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Linux & Cybercafe
Date: 11 Jun 1999 15:36:47 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Moritz Moeller-Herrmann) writes:
> On 10 Jun 1999 14:46:08 GMT, David L. Bilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >What about looking into a smaller, easier to secure browser? Who said that
> >it _has_ to be Netscape?
>
> Well, iexplore.exe won't cut it. Opera hasn't been releases. KFM lacks support
> for java(script) and lynx lacks almost everything. Anything I forgot for
> browsing?
KFM isn't an option as its also file manager, see any problems arising with
respect to starting programs? Although this could be got around by setting
correct permissions
Oh and you forgot about using emacs as a web browser :-)
> I think write protecting (mount readonly)the whole filesystem apart from the
> ~/.netscape/cache directory would protect you from most attacks. Set the shell
> to some script starting Netscape if not running. Disable everything. Give
> permissions to do zilch. Can't be that hard. Maybe not even the cache and use
> a local proxy?
Stopping the settings being saved may stop it being permanent, but will
netscape allow the settings to be changed just for that session, keeping the
changes in memory?
David
--
The superior man understands what is right;
the inferior man understands what will sell.
-- Confucius
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From: "David Eno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.samba
Subject: Re: Samba and my HP500
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 19:14:30 GMT
I eventually went back to Red Hat 5.2. For this particular box, I only need
to share the printer and some files. Everything works.
If you (or anyone) finds a solution, please let us know.
Dave E.
Peter V Amerl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7jrlv5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Ditto, same problem here...
> I've tried many things...
>
> Desperately,
> Peter
>
> David Eno wrote:
> >
> > I've connected an HP500 DeskJet to a Red Hat 6.0 machine that's on our
NT
> > network. I can't share the printer with NT Workstation or Win 98
> > workstations. I can add the printer to the workstations and everything
> > looks like it works. When I try to print a test page (or any other
page) it
> > acts like it prints OK, but nothing comes out of the printer. The
printer
> > works fine from the Linux machine.
> >
> > The settings in smb.conf look reasonable. Is there anything I have to
do,
> > other than set the printer up on Linux, to get Samba to share it? I can
> > share files just fine using Samba.
> >
> > Thanks for your help.
> > --
> > Dave E.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim)
Subject: Re: IP Adresses
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 03:28:39 GMT
I have several extras.
I'll sell them for $5.00 each. How many do you need?
On Thu, 10 Jun 1999 14:17:17 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hello i'm running Suse Linux 6.0
>
>I need to setup a dns server (no problem)
>
>My problem is i don't know how i can add more ip addresses !
>I've only the base ip Adress of my server.
>
>Can anyone help me ?
>
>Ciao,
>Joe
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
Acutally, if you want to know more about making up some addresses,
you need to read the rfc1918 document.
I'd suggest that you use 192.168.1.1 thru 192.168.1.X as a lot of
documentation use those numbers for their private internet addresses.
jim
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter da Silva)
Crossposted-To: comp.databases.oracle.misc,comp.sys.dec,comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Subject: Re: ISO VT320 emulator with key-bindings for Oracle Forms
Date: 12 Jun 1999 17:58:48 GMT
In article <Rfa83.209$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
T.E.Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.networking Peter da Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> But at the end I had the only VT100 emulator I could find at the time that
>> was usable with BOTH RSX-11 and VMS versions of EDT and TPU, even if it
>> wasn't always as pretty as a real vt100. And it ran on UNIX.
>can we download this and play with it?
I'll see if I can (a) dig up a copy of it, and (b) get it released.
--
In hoc signo hack, Peter da Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
`-_-' Ar rug tú barróg ar do mhactíre inniu?
'U` "Be vewy vewy quiet...I'm hunting Jedi." -- Darth Fudd
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (D. Michael Basinger)
Subject: PPP connection speed
Date: 11 Jun 1999 19:01:50 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is there anyway to find out what speed you are REALLY connecting at with
ppp?
Thanks for any info,
Mike
--
D. Michael Basinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Carl Vinson Institute of Government Computer Support Specialist IV
(706) 542-6212 Fax: (706) 542-6239
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ADSL not talking to my box..
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 17:14:58 GMT
Jerry,
Curious. I have some more questions:
o When you are in the 192.168.1.4 state, what does route table look
like, ie. what does "netstat -rn" show? In particular, what is your
default gateway?
o Do you have any files under /etc/dhcpc? If so, what are they dated and
their contents, particularly the info file.
o What version of dhcpcd are you using?
You can also try "dhcpcd -k" (as root!) and then "./dhcpcd" when you are
in the directory where your updated dhcpcd is. Then, look at the above
stuff and "ifconfig".
Further, you can play around with the -i and -I options for dhcpcd ("man
dhcpcd") and -d debug option. -d is particularly informative.
Jim
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jerry L Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dang H. Nguyen wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 12 Jun 1999 01:27:01 -0500, Jerry L Kreps
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >I decided to go ADSL on my phone service to get a faster Internet
access. My ISP gave me a Cicso
> > >675 router programmed as a DHCP Server. It is connected to the
phone jack on the wall and to the
> > >Fast EtherLink XL 10/100B TX NIC in my box. The DNS search is
navix.net, and two nameservers:
> > >207.91.5.20 and 207.91.5.252. My box is JLkreps.At.Home with an IP
of 127.0.0.2 and I am running
> > >SuSE 6.1 with the kernel upgraded to 2.2.7.
> > >
> > >SuSE supplies a configuration program called YaST, which is has
menu options to set up the Name
> > >Server, HostName, Base Configuration and DHCP CLient. When the
box is booted the DHCP Client
> > >gets an IP address, always 192.168.1.4, from the Cisco DCHP Server
and sets up a routing table.
> > >The only problem is the routing table is not any good, I can't see
the internet. My next thing is
> > >to download the lastest version of DCHPCP and compile it into my
system. I've spent thirty hours
> > >playing with ifconfig, route, netstat and the like, trying to
create something that would let
> > >Netscape walk the web via my ADSL.
> > >
> > >The SuSE YaST program leaves the TCP/IP config files in the
following condition...
> > >This info represents all that YaST leaves me with. I can always
ping the NIC. The bad news is
> > >that navix.net and it's numbers are always left out of the mix.
The DHCP Client ALWAYS pulls the
> > >192.168.1.4 number and gives it to the NIC. I don't know why SuSE
leaves navix.net out of the
> > >picture when I gave it the name server info during the YaST setup.
> >
> > do you know why the cisco dsl modem is giving your nic a
non-routable
> > lan only ip?
>
> Thanks for replying, Dang!
> Good question... no. I am currently running on my Win95 side through
the ADSL, so I know the NIC work and
> the Cisco 675 works.
>
> > 192.168.x.x are reserve for use in a local area network and will not
> > be routed on the internet.
>
> True, but on my Win95 I am connected to the Internet and the winiipcf
program shows:
> DNS Server: navix.net
> 207.91.5.20
> 207.91.5.20
>
> IP Address 192.168.200.2 <--- always this, even after cold boot.
> Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0
> Default gateway 192.168.200.1
> DHCP Server 192.168.200.1
>
> Does this seem to suggest that the Cisco router is setup as a bridge?
>
> I've tried these numbers on the SuSE side by doing an ifconfig eth0
down, and then using iconfig to bring eth0
> back up with these numbers. And, in the YaST setup of SuSE I can put
an IP address on the NIC, and it will
> stay. Either way, it makes no difference - no connections ("unable to
reach the network"). When I strip the
> IP address off of the NIC, deactivate it and to a cold reboot, the
192.168.1.4 address always appears.
>
> > does the dsl modem acts as a masquerading server?
>
> The booklet says "The Cisco 675 router is an ADSL modem used for home
connectivity to an ADSL service provider
> over an ADSL/ATM physical layer.... The Cicso 675 router operates usng
the Cisco Broadban Operating System
> (CBOS)."
> The CBOS can be setup as either a bridge or a router. IF it were
setup by the ISP as a bridge then it can
> operate in the RFC1483 mode or the PPP/BCP mode, but not both. "
>
> I don't know which way it is set up because I don't have the special
cable that connects my serial port to the
> Cisco Manager port. And, since I wasn't given the cable to connect to
the Management port of the Cisco, I
> would guess that the IPS put a password on the CBOS to prevent the
user from changing the Cisco's
> configuration.
>
> The manual says the following: "When the Cisco 675 operates in the
bridge mode, it behaves like a wire
> connecting a local PC directly to a service provider's network.
Because bridges operates at a MAC layer only,
> applications requiring IP communication, such as Telnet, TFTP, RADIUS,
Syslog, Ping and the web interface, are
> not available unless a management VC is configured."
>
> The setup is splitterliess, with EZ-DSL Microfilters at each phone.
The ISP provided the crossover cable
> because I am a single PC with an Ehternet NIC, and not connected to an
Ethernet hub, i.e., I don't have a
> small network on my side of the router.
>
> > check ifconfig to see if the ip address is assigned correctly.
>
> What would be the 'correct' setting, a class C IP address? It has
never shown that, as I've relayed above.
>
> After booting, warm or cold, ifconfig always shows the NIC as having
an IP address of 192.168.1.4 with a
> netwmask of 255.255.255.0 and a broadcast of 192.168.1.255.
>
> > From what I've deal with ADSL, you actually need to get a real ip
> > address for it to work, not one of them lan only ones. the dsl modem
> > acts more as a bridge than a router.
>
> I don't think that possibility would be allowed by the ISP.
>
> >
> > let me get this straight, you assigned your nic 127.0.0.2 but the
dhcp
> > server assigns your nic 192.168.1.4. which is the correct ip?
>
> No, I assigned my localhost, named JLKreps.At.Home, the IP address of
127.0.0.2. But, if I assign IPADDR = ""
> with YaST (SuSE's config tool) and run SuSEconfig, which deactiveate
the eth0 device, removing any IP address
> from it's setup, then do a cold boot, the DHCP Client software fetches
an IP adress from the router (I am
> assuming) and ifconfig shows the eth0 device as the Cyclone 3c905B
10/100BTX with the 192.168.1.4 stuff.
>
> In deparation, however, I have assigned the NIC my localhost IP
address. I've also stuck the 207.91.5.20
> address in the NIC, but it doesn't allow any connections. I generally
use Lynx to see if I can connect to the
> Internet after I've entered a configuration. It usually says it can't
find the Internet.
> When I have the following setup:
>
> 127.0.0.1 localhost, loopback
> 0.0.0.0 default
> 127.0.0.2 JLKreps.At.Home
> 192.168.1.4 eth0 (ifconif shows the 3c905B Cyclone having that
address)
> 255.255.255.0 netmask for NIC
> 192.166.1.255 broadcast for NIC
>
> then lynx responds "looking up Yahoo.com" when I ask it to to to that
website. The Cisco "LAN" and "WAN
> activity lights blink back and forth for a long while but nothing
happens. When I fire up KDE and run Netscap
> and click on the home page button netscape display the 'looking for
..." message and appears inactive while
> the Cisco LAN and WAN lights blink back and forth for a long while,
then only occasionally. Netscape appears
> to be waiting or is hung. I have to kill it to close it.
>
> > what I would do is make the adsl line works on another OS before
> > trying to fix Linux. Get a windows box and see if you can get it
> > online.
>
> It's working now on my Win05 side as I am writing this msg. See the
Winiipcf info above.
> Jerry
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From: frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Setting up two ethernet cards -Please help
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 19:04:39 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello, I am still trying to get two Intel etherexpress cards working on my
> machine. I am running RH5.2. I now have the following in my conf.modules:
>
> alias eth0 eexpress
> options io=0x300,0x310 irq=5,9
> alias eth1 eexpress
>
> Now when I run ifconfig on eth0 the following is EXACTLY what I get for output:
>
> Link encap: Ethernet HWaddr 00:AA:00:DC:00:85
> inet addr: 0.0.0.0 Bcast: 0.0.0.0 Mask: 0.0.0.0
> BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
> RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> collisions:0
> Interrupt:5 Base address: 0x300
>
> and when I run ifconfig on eth1 I simply get uknown interface. Now
> obviously something is wrong with this.(the inet addr, Bcast, and Mask
> should not all be 0's for starters.) I don't know what else to do. I have
> set up things in /etc/sysconfig/network, /etc/networks, /etc/hosts. There
> is obviously something I am missing. Any help would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> The most frustrating thing about this is that eth0 was working until I
> started trying to get eth1 to work :)
>
> Thanks agian,
> Seth Norris
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Not sure if I can help much, but it seems you could do a manual loading of the
eth1 card.
Just type ifconfig eth1 xx.xx.xx.xx up
Then if you do a ifconfig -a it should show all nics in the system with
info.
Now I have COL, but it is close to RH.
I put the following in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1
DEVICE=eth1
IPADDR=192.168.22.22 (whatever your number is)
NETMASK=255.255.255.0
NETWORK=192.168.22.0 (assuming class C network)
BROADCAST=192.168.22.255
GATEWAY= x.x.x.x (if you have or need one)
ONBOOT=yes
You can make a separate one for eth0 too. Worked for me. Good Luck
Frank
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter da Silva)
Crossposted-To: comp.databases.oracle.misc,comp.sys.dec,comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Subject: Re: ISO VT320 emulator with key-bindings for Oracle Forms
Date: 12 Jun 1999 18:12:32 GMT
In article <7jr6lr$4f1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Frank da Cruz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>But again: in general, there is no API in UNIX to get the keycode of a
>keyboard event.
Assuming that's what you want, no. However there is an API in UNIX to
get a string of one or more characters that represent a keystroke, and
for non-pathological cases that's all you need.
After all, we ARE talking about a terminal emulator. Yes, you can get
escape sequences garbled over communication lines that don't maintain
time information. But there's two cases we need to consider here:
1. The terminal emulator is "close" to the keyboard.
Here, time information is preserved, the emulator can reliably
distinguish keystrokes. This is the case of a PC or a UNIX program
running on a console or in an X terminal.
2. The terminal emulator is far from the keyboard.
Here, it isn't. But remember that the other side of the terminal
emulator is also generating escape sequences that are subject to
the same problem... so a PC-based terminal emulator would have
the same trouble getting ITS escape sequences reliably recognised,
since it would have to run close to the keyboard and far from the
application.
The only case I can think of where there's a problem is if the input
escape sequence (from the keyboard to the emulator) is less reliably
recognised then the output one (from the emulator to the application),
or if the emulator is running on a significantly overloaded computer.
If you need to distinguish codes (like shift-alt-F7 versus alt-F7) that
the OS doesn't provide a hook for, then you have a problem, but this,
like the heavily overloaded computer, is a pretty pathological case.
After all, international PC keyboards give you bigger problems than this.
I haven't figured out how to generate a seperate "~" on some spanish
keyboards, for example.
--
In hoc signo hack, Peter da Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
`-_-' Ar rug tú barróg ar do mhactíre inniu?
'U` "Be vewy vewy quiet...I'm hunting Jedi." -- Darth Fudd
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From: Bob G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 3 nic cards in one Linux server
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 19:07:07 GMT
Josh Owens wrote:
>
> I am trying to set up all my networking stuff correctly here. I have an
> ISA 3com 3c509b set up as my first card, with the ip addy of 10.0.0.2.
> This handles all my adsl connections for my network, everything is
> working fine here. I also just bought two Netgear 310's and want to run
> them as full duplex.
I just went through this exact scenario. One oddity I ran into is that
the 3C509 module insisted on being loaded LAST. In my /etc/conf.modules:
alias eth0 tulip
alias eth1 tulip
alias eth2 3c509
I fought with getting it to load between the two tulips (as eth1) before
I 'discovered' the solution. I may just replace that 3C509 with another
Netgear FA310TX since they're only about $30 now.
> [...]
> I am trying to run those full duplex to increase the ammount of bandwith
> that the server has. I have a netgear 8 port hub 10baseT. I am hoping
> that the server will then be running at 20Mbit... is that correct?
Unfortunately, no. If you're using a HUB, it will NOT be able to use
full-duplex mode. Full-duplex requires a switched port - a MAC-MAC link,
taking advantage of the fact that no collisions will occur on such a
link. The send and receive pairs of the cable are essentially dedicated
between the two devices. If you're going to have more than two devices
(a hub in other words), you MUST have collision detection working to
communicate.
If you only have a handful of devices, you could work up a poor-man's
switch using a NIC in the server *per client machine* and using a
crossover cable. The FA310TX will do full-duplex at 100Mbps (assuming
you've got 100Mbps capabilities in the clients). You'll need to route or
bridge between multiple clients however. It believe the new kernel has
features to enhance exactly this sort of capability (anyone in the know
care to comment?) IPX-based games will insist on bridging to work I
expect, unless they'll work with routed traffic.
The good news is that switch prices are dropping VERY quickly. You can
get a 5 port 10/100 switch for about $140 some places. I'm seriously
thinking about getting one. Short of that, you might find a cheap
100Mbps hub and at least get 100 out of it, though half-duplex only
(still not bad with a handful of systems). Most 100Mbps hubs I've seen
are nearly $100 though.
> I will include my current ifconfig here, without the second netgear card
> installed. Maybe I will have to do a kernel compile?
You'll want masq etc. enabled.
I personally went with a D-Link fast ethernet starter kit ($90) with two
DFE-530TX cards for the Windows client boxen, and a 4 port 100Mbps hub.
This way, I get 100Mbps half-duplex on the internal network, with 10Mbps
(half-duplex) to my cable modem via the 3c509. The cable modem (or dsl
link) will be the bottleneck. The second FA310TX is a 'dmz' network for
testing and future expansion. I just wound up with an old HP Apollo 715
running HP-UX :)
Good luck!
- Bob
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Greg Fruth)
Subject: Re: SOHO fast eithernet kit and linux
Date: 11 Jun 1999 18:09:51 GMT
In article <7jpvr0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Jim & Toni Dibb"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> There was a reply that the latest version of the tulip driver will work for
> the NDC SOHOware cards, but I've had no luck. I just downloaded the new
> driver and tried it with no luck. Others have had problems as well
Check the Device List Properties in the Windows Control Panel to see what
info it might have on the card's chipset. The Windows device list will
sometimes (unintentionally) list useful details which the documentation
doesn't. Physically looking at the chips on the board may also help.
The SOHOware card I have is based on a Macronix (MXIC or MXIX) chipset which
is compatible with the DEC tulip...
http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/tulip.html
It wouldn't surprise me if the board's manufacturer changed to a different
chipset without changing the board's model number. Physically looking at
the chips on the board may also help.
> Other comments made by another user warned against hub speed, the setup I
> bought came with 10/100 cards, and a 10Mbps hub. The 100 Mbps hub raised
> the price of the kit by almost 80%. I didn't think it was worth it on my
> little 2 node network.
Probably true; the issue is that all your devices need to be able to agree
on a speed or handle both speeds. I got burned because the SOHOware kit I
got came with autoswitching 10Mbps/100Mbps cards (good), but a 100Mbps hub
which only did 100Mbps. That's all OK, but my DSL "modem" link to the Net
only understands 10Mbps, so the hub couldn't talk to the DSL! D'oh! I had
to get a 10Mbps hub and use the 100Mbps hub as a doorstop. An autoswitching
10/100 hub would also have worked (I think), but would have been more
expensive.
--
Gregory Fruth ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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