Linux-Networking Digest #620, Volume #11         Tue, 22 Jun 99 10:13:35 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Linux ==> Braodcast PPP Status ? (James Carlson)
  Network and Linux Newbie ("A. de Vos")
  Re: Modem Sharing (John and Lucy Hayward-Warburton)
  Network lockup problem (Mark Erbaugh)
  Re: Here's My Networking Problems (Hans Marcus Krüger)
  Re: Samba and windows have got me baffeled ???? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  install cardbus NIC (Scott Chiang)
  real IP forwarding & masquarading (root)
  Re: Modem Sharing ("Colin McKinnon")
  Samba and Win98 (Brian Witowski)
  Re: SuSE Linux 6.1 & PPPIOCGUNIT Operation not permitted (Nick Kew)
  Re: Setting up Linux to share PPP connection... (Andreas Krogh)
  Re: Using MS VPN Clients Behind IP Masquerade (Andreas Krogh)
  Re: PAP: Password Authentication Protocol (coffee)
  Re: Linux router:  STATIC IP ADDRESS (?) (Andrzej Filip)
  Re: Win98 Machine Connected Via Modem, Linux Needs Connection..help!!!! ("pg")
  newbie need help: network drops ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Pppd problem (Clifford Kite)
  Re: ppp problems (Clifford Kite)

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From: James Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.protocols.ppp
Subject: Re: Linux ==> Braodcast PPP Status ?
Date: 22 Jun 1999 07:19:58 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh) writes:
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Malware 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> >Add the commands doing this to /etc/ppp/ip-up and /etc/ppp/ip-down. The
> >ip-up Script does get the line speed too (see "man pppd"), so it should
> 
> Which speed? I suspect that it is given the computer to modem speed,
> rather than the modem to modem speed.

It's just the serial port speed (from the pppd global variable
"baud_rate").

You can catch the modem's initial handshake speed via chat and then
pick it up in the ip-up script, though.  This is done using the "-r"
option on chat to set up a "report" file, and then using the "REPORT
CONNECT" keywords in the chat script to tell chat that any string
beginning with the word "CONNECT" should be copied to the file.

This is just the raw connect string.  You'll have to configure the
modem properly to report DCE rather than DTE rate, and do some light
parsing on the contents of the file.

You should probably also note that initial connect rate probably isn't
as interesting as it might seem.  Modems are able to renegotiate rates
up and down during the life of the call, and many popular brands will
always report the highest possible speed and then immediately
negotiate downward to more usable speeds.  If you're using this
connect speed to estimate transfer time and so forth, it's probably
not useful.  If you're looking for gross V.8 failures (failing to get
V.42 or V.42bis, or ending up in some other strange mode), then this
will be useful.

-- 
James Carlson, Software Architect                   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
IronBridge Networks / 55 Hayden Avenue   71.246W   Vox:  +1 781 372 8132
Lexington MA  02421-7996 / USA           42.423N   Fax:  +1 781 372 8090
"PPP Design and Debugging" --- http://people.ne.mediaone.net/carlson/ppp

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From: "A. de Vos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Network and Linux Newbie
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:40:22 +0200

BACKGROUND:
I have a Pentium with RedHat 5 linux installed, a 3Com network card
The network is a NT network with a NT Server and my computer has Windows 98
and also a 3Com ethernet network card.

I have assigned IP adres 169.254.0.51 to the Linux server and am able to
ping to this IP from my Windows 98 server. Yesterday I was able by using
Samba to access the Linux machine using Windows File Explorer.

PROBLEM:
Now I have setup Apache server and am able to browse the Linux machine. But
now I cannot acces the linux using Samba. I read in the newsgroup the
Workgroup names etc should be the same, but this does not help.

I want to send files to the Linux (to install Perl). I cannot access the
Linux with Samba/File Explorer and cannot access using FTP (blocking call).
What should I do???? I have seen many FAQ but none explains things easy
enough and there is no FAQ about setting up FTP server. HELP!!!


Arne de Vos




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From: John and Lucy Hayward-Warburton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,tw.bbs.comp.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Modem Sharing
Date: 22 Jun 1999 10:43:59 GMT

Gilford Wimbley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>NT machines clients.   Is it possible to install a modem in the linux
>>server and allow the clients to access the internet?
>>Becky
> Yes.  I did this for a while.  The hassle is how do tell the linux
> machine to connect to the internet?  If your NT users don't mind

Look at the masqdialler package; a server that sits on the Linux
machine responds to incoming requests (usually on port 222) from
clients that are on the other machines (loads of clients available,
including Windows and Java), then makes and supervises the requested
connection. Lusers may connect and disconnect, with
administrator-designated privileges.

http://cpwright.com/mserver

has some information. It works reliably here, with my ISDN link (the
program's writer is very amenable to working with you if you have to
customise anything yourself).

JHW


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Erbaugh)
Subject: Network lockup problem
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:40:28 GMT

Hi,

Please help a Linux newbie.

I have two machines networked together using some old NE2000 ethernet
cards. The server is set up to dual boot, using Windows NT OS loader,
either Windows NT Server 4 (SP 3) or Red Hat Linux 5.2. The
workstation runs Windows NT Workstation 4 (SP 3).

The workstation has been running Windows NT Workstation flawlessly
since January, 1999. It hardly ever acts up, and even when an errant
program (I am a programmer) causes problems, I can always use the
Windows NT task manager to shut down the affected process(es) and I
don't have to reboot. There have been times when I've left the
workstation running for several days with no problems.

Enter Linux: I added the server and connected the two machines using
the NE2000 cards. The Linux install is pretty much straight out of the
box, I have not recompiled the kernel. I've set up SAMBA so that I can
use Linux as a file server. I also have Interbase 4 server running on
Linux. Both the file server and Interbase seem to work fine from the
workstation.

However, after a random time interval; sometimes just a few minutes,
sometimes many hours, the WORKSTATION will lock up tight. The keyboard
and mouse are dead, the workstation does not respond to network PINGs.
I have to do a hardware reset to recover. The lockup only occurs when
the server is running Linux. It doesn't matter what the Linux box is
doing. I can have the lockup occur when it is just sitting at the
login prompt (In reality, I guess some processes are running, because
it does show up in the workstation's network neighborhood). I haven't
found anything repeatable about the lockups other than that they will
always occur if I wait long enough.

When the workstation locks up, the Linux machine is still running fine
and I can log on or do anything else with it. Shutting down the Linux
box does not unlock the workstation.

The lockup does not occur if the server is running Windows NT Server
or if the server is not powered on.

I don't know much about Linux so I would appreciate any suggestion.
Perhaps there are some diagnostic tools that I can run (the only thing
I've tried was ping - When the workstation is not locked up, I can
ping the workstation from the server and vice versa. Once it locks up,
it stop responding to pings).

Other than the lockup the workstation works well and can access the
file server and interbase server on the server. I can also telnet from
the workstation into the server with no problem.

Any ideas? I really like Linux as the server.

Mark

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From: Hans Marcus Krüger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Here's My Networking Problems
Date: 22 Jun 1999 11:26:32 GMT

raid0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


It also may happend, that your computer says that your Network-card ist
workinh properly, even if it isn't (I used to have that kind of troubles
with Win95 and cheat Network-Cards, specially Realtek 8029). So if it
still doesn't work try to install you network card again. Delete the
entry in the System-entry (control panel) or delete it's key oin the
registry (with RegEdit.exe) To do so You will have to find it. It should
be somewhere in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\PCI . Look at all keys listed
there and delete the one of your Network-card. Reboot your system and
don't let windows install it's default drivers. Use the one provided with
your network card. 

Good Luck

Hans M Krüger
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


>Have you selected the correct transport protocal. Linux uses TCP/IP and
>Windows 98 uses IPX. Also you probably need to assign your linux box
>some kind of dns number.
>
>
>
>On Tue, 08 Jun 1999, Arthur R Peale wrote:
>>I've got two computers: a K62, and a 386 I'm trying to net together,
>>just for giggles.  The K62 has Win98/Linux dual-boot, and the 386 is
>>just
>>Linux (running like a champ!!!)
>>
>>The problem stems from the Windows side not seeing the 386.  I can't
>>even 'ping' it.  This, of course, is no problem for the Linux side of
>>the K62.
>>
>>I ask you this now, knowledgeable ones.  What am I doing wrong?  I've
>>successfully done this before, on other machines (actually the K62 in
>>Linux to another in Win98) and belive I have done this the same way. 
>>Could someone let me know, step by step what to do, so I can go over
>>something I may have missed?
>>
>>TIA,
>>Arthur R Peale
>>-- 
>>____________________________________________
>>        Northeast USA Computer Show Schedule
>>      Computer Shows All Over The Northeast!
>>                    mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>    http://www.vermontel.com/~vengnce/shows/
>>____________________________________________

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Samba and windows have got me baffeled ????
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:36:05 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (peter) wrote:
> This is strange... I followed everything in the how-to's and also on
> some other web sites that I was told to visit
>
> http://www.eunuchs.org/linux/samba/
>
> and
>
> http://us1.samba.org/samba/samba.html
>
> Samba and windows 98 are still giving me problems.  I think the
> problems might be on the Win98 side.
>
> The machines could: ping each other, windows could telnet to the linux
> machine (but I could not log in as root)
>
> The linux machine could see the windows, when I type :
>
> smbconfig -L localhost

??????????????vat is tis???
how can the linuxmachine SEE the windows?

>
> Windows networking could not see linux or even itself !!!
>

doesn't matter first, can you connect networkdrive ?
drive e (or any other) to \\linuxmachine\share?
> the smb.conf is more or less stock, when I made a any changes it would
> stop working.
>
> I'm thinking it has something to do with the "guest" line in the
> smb.conf, or the encrypted password in win 98 ???
>
> What do you think ?
>
> BUT I don't see the reason I have no networking at all on the windows
> machine...I'm using TCP/IP, should I add something else ???

you DID add client for microsoft network, did you?
>
> Also, could someone please post their smb.conf, that might help
>
> Thanks,
>
> peter
>


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From: Scott Chiang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: install cardbus NIC
Date: 17 Jun 1999 06:33:27 GMT

hi,

  I follow the Installation instructions for the Modules 
version to install AmbiCom 10/100 Fast Ethernet CardBus 
PC Card (DEC tulip Chip). The Installation instructions 
as follows:

1. Verify that the source code for your current kernel 
   version is installed. 
2. If you don't have a /usr/include/linux/version.h file, 
   do cd /usr/src/linux; make include/linux/version.h 
3. Copy the driver source code to a source directory. I 
   usually use usr/src/modules/tulip.c. 
4. Compile the file using the compile-command at the 
   bottom of the tulip.c source file. 
5. As 'root', load the module using "insmod tulip.o". 
   You should first test this by hand in single-user 
   mode. If it works as expected you should add the 
   insmod command to /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 or 
   /etc/rc.d/rc.local. 

The version of driver source code is V0.91, and the 
linux system is RedHat 6.0 + kernel 2.2.5 + 
pcmcia-cs-3.0.9.

It seem easily from step 1 to step 4, but when I do 
"insmod tulip_cb.o" command in step 5, the system 
respones me the following message:

unresolved symbol unregister_driver
unresolved symbol register_driver

I don't know what happen and how should I to do?
Does anyone can tell me the following steps I 
should to do? Thanks!

Regards,

p.s pls mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

scott/NDC
6/17/1999

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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: real IP forwarding & masquarading
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 15:02:10 +0300

Hi everybody:

    I have a server running  Linux 6.0 RedHat and five Windows clients.
I'm connected to the ISP using PPP, my LAN is ethernet based. Presently
the clients access the internet using IP Masquerading.
    My ISP allocated an extra IP address for me, and I want to asociate
it to one of my Windows clients. I want to use that client for software
not supported by IP Masquerading (e.g. NetMeeting).

Can anyone tell me whats the best way to do this?
If I assign that new address to the Windows host, I'll have on the same
phisical ethernet LAN computers with different class IP addresses:
the Masqueraded clients: 192.168.29.x
the non Masqueraded host: 193.230.192.y.
and this seems very odd to me.

thanks
Miki R.


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From: "Colin McKinnon" <colin at wew dot co dot uk>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,tw.bbs.comp.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Modem Sharing
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:13:30 +0100

Becky wrote in message <7klu2h$jfh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hi all,
>
>I am a newbie of Linux. I am setting up a server using SuSE with windows
>NT machines clients.   Is it possible to install a modem in the linux
>server and allow the clients to access the internet?
>If yes, what package can i use?
>Thx ...
>
>Becky
Sounds like you don't really want to share the modem - you want to share
internet access - not quite the same thing. You need to setup your linux box
as a router. Read the man pages for ppp and ipfwadm. Also have a look at the
Howtos.

For initiating the connection you can setup demand dialling for ppp, or have
a look at the masqdialler package (for which there are java and Win95
clients). Or just use the command line.

HTH


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From: Brian Witowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Samba and Win98
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 07:59:04 -0400

Greetings,

Occassionally I get 'Fatal Errors' or other blue-screen crashes on my
Win98 box when attempting to open a file directly off my Linux server.
It seems like the only way to do this reliably is to drag it across to
my
Win98 box then open it locally.  Does anybody have any idea why
this happens?  In every other way, the network functions perfectly.


Thanks,
Brian


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nick Kew)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: SuSE Linux 6.1 & PPPIOCGUNIT Operation not permitted
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:07:35 +0000

> Why do you insist on getting assigned the address 192.237.75.1 while the
> peer does offer you 193.237.75.1? Looks like a typo within the config

"does offer you"?  From the lines you posted one might reasonably
infer the opposite.

-- 
Nick Kew

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From: Andreas Krogh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Setting up Linux to share PPP connection...
Date: 22 Jun 1999 06:01:00 +0200

Ken J Braatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I would like to setup my Linux box to route traffic from my PPP
> connection to my ISP to other boxes on my home network. I've made a few
> attempts using what documentation I've been able to find but have been
> unsuccessful. I have no problems connecting the Linux box to my ISP
> (Netcom) and have no problems connecting my other WinTel boxes to the
> Linux box. They just won't route.
> 
> Here's what I have running:
> 
> Mandrake 6.0 (2.2.9-27 kernel) - Full installation with nothing special
> configured.
> PPP connection to Netcom that is issued a dynamic IP and router address.
> 
> Ethernet IP address of 192.168.100.1
> 
> The wintel boxes are all on the same subnet (192.168.100) with a default
> gateway set to 192.168.100.1.
> 
> What I would ultimately like to do is setup a script that, if possible,
> would, automatically open the PPP connection if it isn't already up and
> then close it after a period of inactivity. For now I''d just be happy
> getting it to route period though.
> 
> Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks

Enable ip_firewalls and ip_masquerading in the linux-kernel and
recompile(if you know how to do that).
Now that you have your kernel in order, you need the "ipchains" tool
to manipulate the firewalling-chains in the kernel(masquerading and
all that). Read the ipchains howto at:
http://www.rustcorp.com/linux/ipchains/HOWTO.html

--
Andreas Joseph Krogh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: Andreas Krogh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Using MS VPN Clients Behind IP Masquerade
Date: 22 Jun 1999 05:51:30 +0200

"Steve Spar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have a Linux box dialed in to the Interent, running IP Masquerade which I
> use to allow multiple MS (98/NT) boxes to be on the Internet at once.
> 
> I want to use the MS boxes with the MS PTPTP to connec tto a VPN over the
> Net.
> 
> Can anybody tell me how to do this?

I run linux-2.0.37 with pptp-masq to masquerade a VPN server(NT-4.0)
and it works like a charm:-). I have never tried it the other way
around - masquerading clients, but according to the doc's this is what
you do:

First: you need Windows NT and _not_ windows9x to run VPN-clients
through a firewall because win9x can't forward ip traffic then chech
the "enable ip-forwarding" chechbox in Network Neighbourhood.

Second: download the 2.0.37 kernel and compile it with pptp
masquerading enabled _and_ pptp callerID! You must enable pptp
callerID for the kernel to tell the clients apart. After compiling
your newly configured kernel, reboot - and voala(hopefully) you're
rocking!

Email me if you encounter any problems or just to tell me about your
success/failiure...

--
Andreas Joseph Krogh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: coffee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: PAP: Password Authentication Protocol
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 07:29:21 -0400

>Yes. You do not know how to help him. You cannot even be bothered to
>tell him where he should goto find one of those howtos or faqs. 
>I have written one of those howtos. And you advise me on how I should act 
>in helping others.

Ok. If you had written the howto why didnt you tell him. You
can sit down and write the best howtos and such but if they
dont know where they are then its no help. I didnt see
anywhere in your post that you mentioned your howto. The
only thing that you did do successfully in your post was to
rip him up for asking a question.


-- 
        coffee at indy dot net * ICQ 1614986

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From: Andrzej Filip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.security.firewalls
Subject: Re: Linux router:  STATIC IP ADDRESS (?)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:39:40 +0200

Robert Gloria wrote:

> I have a white box with 3 ether interfaces running the Linux Router Project
> floppy.
>
> eth0:  class B subnet, with the presence of a Cisco router (Internet).
> eth1:  class A subnet
> eth2:  class A subnet
>
> I can get the class A subnets to route through the class B subnet only with
> the following (I guess it's because RIP is not enabled on the Cisco router):
>
>     ipfwadm -F -a accept -m -W eth0 -S 10.0.0.240/8 -D 0/0
>
> The IP address of eth0 masquerades outbound class A (eth1) IP addresses.
>
> Is there a way to map static outside IP addresses (class B) on a one-to-one
> basis to inside class A subnet IP addresses ?  I want to give inbound
> clients (telnet) access to the class A subnets.

1) You can make linux and NT to use more than one IP address on single
IP interface

2) than you may use arp proxy on linux to route some B class addresses to
hosts in A sub nets
see "man arp" for details

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From: "pg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Win98 Machine Connected Via Modem, Linux Needs Connection..help!!!!
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 12:38:42 GMT


Ken Cormack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Another option to investigate (if you care to spend the money) is the
> new Windows 98 "Second Edition", that was just released on June 10th.
> Kind of like OSR2 was to Windows 95, the "Second Edition" version of
> 98 is supposed to add some new features to 98.  One of them is
> peer-to-peer modem-sharing like WinGate, I would think, but I dont
> know all of the particulars since I havent played with "Second
> Edition" yet.  I would ask around first, to see if anyone could give
> you more specific info about its abilities and limitations.
>
> I saw it retailing for $79 U.S. for the upgrade version, and $179 U.S.
> for the "no previous version of Windows required" version.  I'm sure
> those were full list prices, and you could probably do better at the
> discounters.

===============================

Win98SE contains the former NAT1000 from NEVOD.  It is now known as
"Internet connection sharing" (ICS) .  It lets you share your Internet
connection with the rest of your network.  You can either use 2 Ethernet
cards, or one Ethernet card and one modem ( modem being your connection to
the Internet)

pg



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: newbie need help: network drops
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 12:05:05 GMT

Hi

I have a problem here with network connection.

I am using a Compaq NetFlex on a Compaq computer. Configured as tlan in
the /etc/conf.modules

it's connected to my workplace LAN okay until some processes are run,
eg calling external website, etc. Couldn't find a trend what caused the
network drop. if I don't execute any command, the network will remain
up. When I execute a string of commands, the link will go down.

Please help!

I am using redhat 5.2. Thanks.


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From: kite@NoSpam.%inetport.com (Clifford Kite)
Subject: Re: Pppd problem
Date: 22 Jun 1999 09:00:04 -0500

Adrian Mink ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

:         I'm trying to set up pppd to do demand dialing, and keep running
: into the message that version 2.2.0 of the kernel driver does not support
: demand dialing. I have upgraded to the latest ppp deamon (2.3.8-1), and I
: still get the same message. I am running Redhat 5.1, Kernel 2.0.36. What am
: I missing? I am fairly new to linux, so I am usually missing something.

Dunno how RH packages work to upgrade the PPP kernel support but that's
what's missing.

Starting from a ppp source package you just follow the installation
instructions, including the "make kernel" step that installs the new
kernel support in the kernel source tree as well as the step in which
you actually make the kernel.

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From: kite@NoSpam.%inetport.com (Clifford Kite)
Subject: Re: ppp problems
Date: 22 Jun 1999 08:53:40 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

: the IP address I'm pinging is that of the ppp server, is it posible that
: the server has gotten confused and doesn't know how to route IP packets
: back to me? I can see the modem transmitting while I'm pinging it just
: never receives anything back. I tried to get tcpdump to listen to the
: ppp0 interface but it complained that it didn't know how to listen to
: it.

It doesn't seem likely that an ISP would be broken to the extent that
they were unable to route things to you.  But that's only my opinion.

Try upgrading tcpdump, early versions won't work for PPP interfaces and
newer kernels.

You can add the pppd option  kdebug 7  and get hex dumps of everything,
a last resort kind of thing.

I'd a least take a look at the serial port configuration and make sure
it's correct.  But that kind of problem usually shows up in the PPP
link negotiations and there was no sign of such a problem in them.


--
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