Linux-Networking Digest #657, Volume #11 Thu, 24 Jun 99 21:13:51 EDT
Contents:
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft Retest
News (Jason O'Rourke)
Re: Apache not serving web pages (Benjamin John)
Re: alternatives to ip masquerade?? ("TURBO1010")
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft Retest
News (Belgarion)
Re: Linux - Cable modem configuration (V O'Donnell)
IP Masq/DNS ("Mike Engelhart")
NFS remote install problems (Jim Smith)
Re: Any comments on this eth card "trick"
Re: tulip_cb ("Curt")
Re: triggering pppd through external phone call (John Thompson)
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (Chris Costello)
Re: PPP - Please no ppp how-to's (Rod Smith)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason O'Rourke)
Crossposted-To:
omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft
Retest News
Date: 24 Jun 1999 16:23:27 -0700
Terry Carmen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>While it's very easy to bash NT and come up with amazing statistics
>supporting either operating system, I should mention that NT is very
>stable if you do a proper install on certified hardware and don't load
>it up with a bunch of crap.
What the heck is certified hardware? Is a HP Kayak workstation certified?
I gave up trying to reinstall NT as a dual boot option. By the time I
installed SP3, it would panic on bootup. And I didn't even get to the
point where I'd load it up with crap. So it's back to freebsd - I reboot
when we have a power failure. And my web services have been running
nonstop in the background while I run all sorts of crap (starting with
netscape).
>Modifying the kernel under Linux requires a recompile. Modifying core
>NT components requires nothing more than leaving a DLL where the OS
>can find it.
Of course you need to recompile. But it isn't that hard. And when
installing software, it's pretty rare that you need to reboot afterwards,
or have to shutdown every other process during the install.
--
Jason O'Rourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.jor.com
'96 BMW r850R
last dive: June 13th, Pescadero Wash Rocks (Carmel), 46 mins at 64ft max
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From: Benjamin John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Apache not serving web pages
Date: 24 Jun 1999 15:47:42 PDT
if you installed apache, thats all you need for serving webpages
http://localhost
should bring up your page
which by default on RH 6.0 i think is in /home/httpd/html
offcourse you have a lotta reading to to.
editing your httpd.conf
and reading docs at http://apache.org
Lord Byron wrote:
> I recently tried to set up an old computer as a web server, using Linux and
> Apache. It has limited hard drive space (1 gig), and I don't plan on using
> it for anything besides the web serving, so I don't want a full-blown
> installation of Linux (Mandrake 6 is what I use). I tried installing it
> with just the base stuff and apache, but that didn't work. httpd is
> running, but I'm not able to access the documents from any computer. Can
> someone tell me the minimum stuff I need to install to get apache running.
> Thanks.
> --
> Byron
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From: "TURBO1010" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: alternatives to ip masquerade??
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:41:54 -0700
My ICQ works fine, everything works fine, don't know about Netmeeting
though, haven't tried it. Maybe I got my computer setup wrong or something,
but ICQ works without modifying anything.
Andrey Smirnov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7ku2vi$qtv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> There are some fixes for ip_masq to make icq and netmeeting work, search
> Linux sites.
>
>
> William Hubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have an rh 5.2 machine and a windows 98 machine. I have an ADSL
> > connection to the internet with a static ip address. I am interested in
> > setting things up so that both machines have full access to the
internet.
> >
> > I have been using ip masquerade on the linux machine, and it sortof
works.
> > There are things that I want to do on the windows box (netmeeting and
icq
> > for example) which will not work correctly when it is going through the
> > linux machine running masquerade.
> >
> > Are there ways to set up ip masquerade to handle these programs? Or,
are
> > there alternatives to ip masquerade that will allow both machines to
have
> > access to the internet?
> >
> > I don't get a chance to read newsgroups often, so please send responses
to
> > me via email as well as posting them.
> >
> > Any help would be appreciated.
> >
> > William
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Belgarion)
Crossposted-To:
omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft
Retest News
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 24 Jun 1999 16:56:11 PST
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Terry Carmen wrote:
>On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 11:01:31 +0000, yan seiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>I changed from NT server to Linux server 6 months ago. I achieved 99.8%
>>uptime in the last 6 months; the one time the system was unavailable
>>(for 3 hours - I was out of town) was due to the fact that I screwed up
>>the hosts file. This on a budget of $0 and a total time of maybe 40
>>hours.
>>
>>The NT installation prior to that would crash regularly. I took to
>>rebooting it every weekend, and sometimes it would not come up. (I
>>blame most of this on R&RAS, which is the worst POS I've ever seen in a
>>production environment. I've seen alpha stuff that is more stable and
>>better documented.)
>
>While it's very easy to bash NT and come up with amazing statistics
>supporting either operating system, I should mention that NT is very
>stable if you do a proper install on certified hardware and don't load
>it up with a bunch of crap.
Certified hardware? Bah. I like my off-brand motherboards that
work just fine with linux.
And if I want 8 gigs of userspace programs, why can I have it?
Under NT, that requires that I slap a few more 128MB sticks in the
machine so that it can handle the overbloated registry that has to be
in memory 100% of the time.
>If you take NT certified hardware, install NT, the web server of your
>choice and a recent service pack, then log off and walk away from the
>console, it will run quite nicely for a very long time.
Anyone can do this with any operating system and garner the
same results. Big fscking deal. I could run a webserver under MacOS
under your conditions and get the same results.
>The biggest reason NT has less uptime is mostly because people can't
>resist installing all sorts of new software that may or may not leak
>resources, and may or may not replace core OS components with versions
>that are either incompatible or buggy.
Because of the registry, and because of all those little DLL's
(which i'm getting to) that each and every program insists on having a
different version of, because everytime you install a new Microsoft
program it has to overwrite all the system-centric ones with new
versions fit to run it's programs properly.
At least I know that my programs (worst case) are going to work
with 1 of 2 versions of libc, and have a high chance of being modified
to work with any new revisions of said libraries.
Oh yeah, and my registry editor can be "vi", "emacs", "jed",
"fte"... Well, you get the idea.
>Modifying the kernel under Linux requires a recompile. Modifying core
>NT components requires nothing more than leaving a DLL where the OS
>can find it.
This is a *GOOD* thing. Not to mention, are you familiar with
kernel modules? They work just like your little dll's, but you actually
have to tell the kernel to USE them, something even you have to admit
is more secure.
(yeah, i've had a lot of caffiene and i'm being a condescending
dickhead. so what)
Either way. no version of windows can achieve an uptime of 50
days. Unless this has been fixed VERY recently, Microsoft themselves
admits this.
My server has been up for 45 days, with load averages in teh
2.5 range (P200/64MB SDRAM serves XDMCP for 3 machines :). My *desktop*
machine has been up for 34 days now.
NT has it's uses. It's great for people who need what NT
(or any NOS) offers but don't want to spend the time to learn what's
powering it. It's also good for the hobbyist who wants a clean,
integrated interface, for something like a desktop, and also wants to
run some daemons in the background.
It never has been, and never WILL be, something that people can
rely on. I still have yet to find an NT admin who, in RL (where people
tend to be a lot more honest IMO), tells me that he trusts his servers
to stay up without constant attention.
--
Erik Hollensbe/AKA Belgarion
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
remove "admin" and "127.0.0.1" to reply via email
"I'm sick of limiting myself, to meet your definition..." - Incubus, "Redefine"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (V O'Donnell)
Subject: Re: Linux - Cable modem configuration
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 20:30:46 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> I had the exact same setup, also with Comcast @home. My only solution was
> to disable DHCP on the Linux box altogether and use the settings that it
> would have obtained from the DHCP server. Remember that you can't choose
> your own hostname with this setup since it seems to key the hostname and
> the IP address together. I notice that all of the IP addresses you listed
> were non-routable addresses. Remember that at least one interface (the
> outside one) needs to have the valid IP address that @Home grants you
> (normallay via DHCP).
Used your suggestion as to DHCP disabling. Worked like a charm. @home
insisted that it be enabled. Thanks very much.
> My motorola box was mis-provisioned and would only support two IP
> addresses. It took me several phone calls to
> @Home support to get them to re-provision the modem.
Mine was screwed up too.
> Lastly, remember that @Home's annoying AUP forbids running servers of any
> kind on your cable modem. Just a warning.
Forgive me for asking something I shoukd already know, but what is
"AUP"? I'm assuming this means a setup with 2 PC's using a linux box
with IP masquerading to access the internet is a no-no, right?
Vince
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Remove the "XXX's" to reply directly
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From: "Mike Engelhart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: IP Masq/DNS
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 23:09:57 GMT
I have a simple question which I can't find the yes or no answer to for what
I'm thinking about doing. I have an ADSL modem and 5 static IP addresses.
I recently ran out of IP addresses and SWB wants to charge me $200 a month o
to get 20 more IP's which I don't want to pay for. Anyway, if I set up a
machine to do IP Masquerading on one of my real IP's and put a DNS master on
another real IP, and then put the rest of the machines on the private
network, can I set up DNS so that anyone can transparently go to say
"www.mycompany.com" or "www2.mycompany.com" which would be running on
private IP's behind the firewall? Is this difficult to do?
Thanks for any advice,
Mike
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From: Jim Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: NFS remote install problems
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 00:05:17 GMT
Hello there,
I'm having trouble installing Linux via remote install.
Consider the following:
===============
Server 1 Linux 2.0.29 up and running with a mounted CD-ROM
Server 2 Installation in progress
Problem:
======
>From Server 2, I'm trying to install Linux via Remote Install, ie from
CD-ROM mounted on Server 1. On Server 1, exports file seems to be set up
correctly and so does deamons mountd and nfsd. When trying to install I
get the following error message :
nfs_fhget: getattr error = 13
nfs_read_super: get root inode failed
mount: wrong fs type or bad superblock on
server1:/cdrom/slackware/slakware
Can someone please help.
Thanks in advance.
Jim.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Any comments on this eth card "trick"
Date: 25 Jun 1999 00:31:23 GMT
Well, I do remember when I was running a 486/133 and overclocked it to 160
... I used the keylock as an overclock switch since there was only 1 jumper
different between the 2 bus speeds...
Ironclaw
mcgyer\ wrote:
> I have 3 systems networked (win95, learning linux as I type)
>
> A long time ago (during my doom/duke/quake games) (duke rules) I
> startedsoldering connections
> onto the NIC cards (ne2000's in this case) where the LED's tie in and
> started using the LED's
> on the front of the case to "monitor" my network traffic.....(red and
> yellow LED for Net, green for HD)
>
> Sounds kinda hokey, but I have found it a quick way to keep track of the
> traffic on my small net,
> and has aided in troubleshooting at times (bad connection/cables).
>
> On my linux box I have 2 cards (gonna go cable modem next month) and I
> was able to patch into the
> useless 88 mz display for my LED's, works really well :)
>
> Another "trick" I do is now that the TURBO button is useless I've wired
> it as an on/off switch for the PC speaker.....
>
> Any comments on these "tips/tricks"?
>
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Reply-To: "Curt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Curt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: tulip_cb
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 19:02:28 -0500
Running RH5.2 kernel 2.0.36-7, on a Toshiba 2505CDS.
I downloaded the latest tulip.c from becker's site. I think. It seems to be
v.91 4/14/99
Compiled it with pcmcia-cs-3.0.5.
I get an SIOCADDRT: Invalid argument from cardmgr
ifconfig shows no TX or RX traffic, 4 errors and 12 carrier errors
If I do a 'cardctl reset' the card will go into a loop where it constantly
tries the various
modes 10baseT, 100baseTx, 10baset-FD...
The system will often lockup after this.
Tried the same thing with pcmcia-cs-3.0.12, with the same results.
Anything else I should try?
Trever Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Curt wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone know if the tulip_cb.o module is available yet for 2.0.36 ?
> > If I upgrade to 2.2.X, is it a part of the pcmcia package?
> >
> > Thanks
>
> If you have a new enough version of the tulip.c in the kernel, you just
> copy it to the right directory and name it tulip_cb.c.
>
> If you don't have a new enough version, go to the url in the tulip.c you
> have and download the beta/devel version.
>
> Trever
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: triggering pppd through external phone call
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 18:22:19 -0600
Bob Glover wrote:
>
> [SNIP]
> >This should tell you all. If you run by anyone who knows how to have get
> >the dial-in via external call, tell me!
> [SNIP]
>
> In a previous post, someone said they wanted to be able to call in on a
> voice line, enter a numeric password (touch-tone), and hang up. The server
> would then dial back if the correct password had been entered.
>
> To do this you'll need a modem with a DTMF decoder. Unless I'm mistaken
> (and I could be) a voice modem will do this. You also need some kind of
> software that sits on the modem waiting for a call (not mgetty unless I'm
> mistaken again). This hypothetical software would answer the phone after so
> many rings and wait for the numeric password somehow. After verifying the
> password, it would have to release the modem and exec diald, pppd, or
> something to allow/start a ppp connection.
>
> You should search for topics mentioning voice modem applications for Linux.
> You may get some nibbles that way. And if you are successful, I would be
> mildly curious to know what worked.
Why not just set up a cron job to dial out for you? If you
want to make an impromptu connection, I suppose you could
dial in and start a terminal session, do a "at now + 5
minutes dial_out_using_this_script" type of thing, then hang
up and let it go to work.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Chris Costello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark?
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.misc
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 00:28:43 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Terry Carmen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> While it's very easy to bash NT and come up with amazing statistics
> supporting either operating system, I should mention that NT is very
> stable if you do a proper install on certified hardware and don't load
> it up with a bunch of crap.
On certified hardware? Why do I need to get new certified
hardware instead of running FreeBSD on a high end Alpha or x86
box with pretty much generic (except of course the SCSI and
network interface cards) parts?
> If you take NT certified hardware, install NT, the web server of your
> choice and a recent service pack, then log off and walk away from the
> console, it will run quite nicely for a very long time.
Buy $2000 computer.
Install NT.
Reboot.
Resume install.
Reboot.
Start new install.
Configure networking.
Download 80 MB service pack.
Reboot.
Reboot.
Log off.
Eliminate steps 3, 4 and 6 if you're skilled or lucky.
As opposed to
Buy $700-$1000 computer.
Install FreeBSD (takes 15 minutes for me (of course I
memorized the config program)!)
Reboot.
Setup network services and user accounts.
Config and compile custom kernel.
Reboot.
If on a recent -STABLE install, this will last you a couple
years before you should really update (unless an important 'HEADS
UP' comes along, which is kinda rare).
> The biggest reason NT has less uptime is mostly because people can't
> resist installing all sorts of new software that may or may not leak
Like the security fixes for IIS...
> resources, and may or may not replace core OS components with versions
> that are either incompatible or buggy.
Like service packs...
> Modifying the kernel under Linux requires a recompile. Modifying core
> NT components requires nothing more than leaving a DLL where the OS
> can find it.
Oh no! Compiling puts such a heavy load on a system and the
20 seconds downtime you get when you reboot for the new kernel
can cost you BILLIONS!
> Terry
> "It's much easier to develop software using actual technology, instead of just
>made-up stuff."
--
Chris Costello
Don't hit the keys so hard, it hurts.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: PPP - Please no ppp how-to's
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 00:19:32 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> Living in North Carolina, I attended the Linux Expo in Raligh a few
> weeks ago! I tried 5.0 several years ago, bought books, etc! But,
> for the life of me was unable to set up my internet account! At the
> Linux Expo all different kinds of promises came out of Red Hat that I
> would find it "easy" to set-up my server! Well, three weeks, 2 hours
> per day later I find I can't get it going! Where is the documentation
> from Red Hat that they promised on this (ppp) in Linuxconf?
You might want to look into X-ISP (http://users.hol.gr/~dbouras/). It's a
GUI front-end to the various PPP scripts, daemons, etc. It's not
difficult to configure, *BUT* you *MUST* read its documentation. "Out of
the box," it's set up in such a way that only root can run it. You only
need to change permissions on a few files to get it working as an ordinary
user, but if you don't pay enough attention to the documentation, you may
miss that. You'll also (probably) need to set up an /etc/ppp/pap-secrets
file with your ISP username and password. For instance, mine looks like
this (with a different password than I really use, of course):
# Secrets for authentication using PAP
# client server secret IP addresses
rodsmith * password
This file should have permissions -rw------- (600) and ownership by root,
to keep prying eyes from being able to read your ISP login password. If
your ISP uses CHAP rather than PAP for authentication, you'll need a
chap-secrets file instead (the format is the same).
--
Rod Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.channel1.com/users/rodsmith
NOTE: Remove the "uce" word from my address to mail me
Author of _Special Edition Using WordPerfect for Linux_, from Que;
see http://www.channel1.com/users/rodsmith/books.html
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