Linux-Networking Digest #720, Volume #11         Tue, 29 Jun 99 16:13:50 EDT

Contents:
  Change IP addy (Ari Vaisanen)
  Re: Winsock Redirection Protocol ("Bob Glover")
  Re: PPP over Ethernet SW (Bill Unruh)
  Re: Q: Getting the server time (Bob)
  Re: PPP over Ethernet SW (Sven Hazejager)
  localhost does not load in apache (Micahel)
  Re: IP Aliasing Slackware Problem (Thomas Zajic)
  Re: PPP over Ethernet SW (Lew Pitcher)
  Re: Linux - Win networking ("Bob Glover")
  Re: PPP over Ethernet SW (Lew Pitcher)
  Re: Authentification on Windows NT with ISDN (Marten Weber)
  Re: Banner after print job. ("LAU, ELIAS MOISES")
  Re: PPP connection problem, Really need help. ("Gene Heskett")
  Home networking for Linux ("Verheijen")
  Re: MODEM NOT WORKING ("O'Loughlin")
  Re: Why not C++ (Greg Comeau)
  Re: Netscape has detected a /root/.netscape/lock file???? ("r.tolga")
  Re: Telnet Linux->Windows question (Ian Northeast)
  Re: Can't Telnet (Lew Pitcher)

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From: Ari Vaisanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Change IP addy
Date: 29 Jun 1999 18:31:15 GMT

I just want to make this question clear for me. 

How do i change ip address on eth0 (without restarting).

TIA

Cheers

/Ari


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From: "Bob Glover" <app1rtg_at_air.ups.com>
Subject: Re: Winsock Redirection Protocol
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:43:08 +0100

Yes, transparent proxy support is part Linux.  I think it works by
forwarding the selected ports/protocols to other ports (on the same box I
suppose) where a proxy server is listening.  Then the proxy server does its
thing.




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: comp.protocols.ppp,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: PPP over Ethernet SW
Date: 29 Jun 1999 18:35:49 GMT

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jun Tappu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


>I am looking for PPP over Ethernet software --both client and sever --
>to run on FreeBSD or Linux. Could anyone give a pointer to where it 
>would be avialable. Thanks

I think you are confused. ppp is for installing a IP link over a phone
line. For ethernet, you just use the standard networking that comes with
all of those operating systems.
(Note that ppp for phone line support also comes with all those
distributions.)

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From: Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Q: Getting the server time
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 22:36:45 +0800



how about as root netdate time-A.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov (maybe specify
multiple servers for comparison)


On Thu, 24 Jun 1999, Mark Bramwell wrote:

> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 16:19:12 -0400
> From: Mark Bramwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.networking
> Subject: Re: Q: Getting the server time
> 
> rdate -s host.name.edu
> 
> Jon Finanger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:7ktn9q$69d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > They need to run the ntp service (xntpd) ... I just usually use
> > Is there any command to retrieve the time?
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 


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From: Sven Hazejager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.protocols.ppp,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: PPP over Ethernet SW
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 20:38:16 +0200

Perhaps he's referring to ppp-over-tcp, aka tunneling? man ppp will do the
trick.

Regards,

Sven

Bill Unruh wrote:

> I think you are confused. ppp is for installing a IP link over a phone
> line. For ethernet, you just use the standard networking that comes with
> all of those operating systems.
> (Note that ppp for phone line support also comes with all those
> distributions.)


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Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:36:51 +0000
From: Micahel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: localhost does not load in apache

I am running RedHat 5.2 on a standalone machine.
When I enter http://localhost in the Netscape browser I get DNS errors.

It seems there is something wrong with my host name, as Linux halts for
about 60 secs during boot up when starting sendmail. The sendmail error
log indicates problems with the hostname.

The computer is set up as standard:
127.0.0.1 localhosts

I have also used the RedHat config tool to set it to localhost.
Any ideas?Do I need to set the domain to localdomain?

Thanks
Michael


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Subject: Re: IP Aliasing Slackware Problem
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 18:41:21 GMT

On Wed, 23 Jun 1999 01:39:58 +1000, Cameron Burley wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have a problem with Ip Aliasing and Slackware 4.0. I have not been
> able to find a ip_alias module (ip_alias.o). I have added ip alias
> support to the kernel and re-compiled my kernel, yet the only changes
> that have been made are an alias of:
> netalias-2 - ip_alias
> anybody have any ideas on why i can't find this module? i'm using kernel
> 2.2.6

You _did_ "make modules && make modules_install" after "make bzImage",
didn't you? Any chance that you added it directly into the kernel instead
of compiling it as a module (answered "Y" instead of "M")?

Thomas
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Crossposted-To: comp.protocols.ppp,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: PPP over Ethernet SW
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 18:52:12 GMT

There were some questions recently (in the last couple of months) about
PPP-over-ethernet in the comp.dcom.lans.ethernet newsgroup. Judging from
the responses in that ng, there *is* something that does PPP-over-ethernet.

Heavens knows why.


On Tue, 29 Jun 1999 20:38:16 +0200, Sven Hazejager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Perhaps he's referring to ppp-over-tcp, aka tunneling? man ppp will do the
>trick.
>
>Regards,
>
>Sven
>
>Bill Unruh wrote:
>
>> I think you are confused. ppp is for installing a IP link over a phone
>> line. For ethernet, you just use the standard networking that comes with
>> all of those operating systems.
>> (Note that ppp for phone line support also comes with all those
>> distributions.)
>


Lew Pitcher
System Consultant, Integration Solutions Architecture
Toronto Dominion Bank

([EMAIL PROTECTED])


(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)

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From: "Bob Glover" <app1rtg_at_air.ups.com>
Subject: Re: Linux - Win networking
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:34:27 +0100

[snip]
># cat rc.firewall
>#!/bin/sh
>/sbin/depmod -a
>/sbin/modprobe ip_masq_ftp
>echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
>ipchains -M -S 7200 10 60
>ipchains -P forward DENY
>ipchains -A forward -s 192.168.0.0/24 -j MASQ
>
>Any obvious problems with the above?

Ping data is carried by ICMP packets (not TCP or UDP packets).  So you must
specifically allow ICMP packets to pass through the firewall.  I can't
remember the syntax for sure but I think it's something like:

ipchains -A forward -p icmp -j MASQ

Try 'man ipchains'.  I think that's where I saw it.

Also, a word of warning:

You should have all your services commented out in inetd.conf.  Odds are you
don't need any of them.  And personnaly I have the following firewall rule
(among others).

ipchains -A input -i ppp* -s0/0 -j DENY

This drops all packets comming from the internet unless they were
masqueraded.  Masqueraded packets will bypass this rule and not be affected.

Good luck and don't fear the Penguin.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Crossposted-To: comp.protocols.ppp,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: PPP over Ethernet SW
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 18:55:15 GMT

On Tue, 29 Jun 1999 18:52:12 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher) wrote:

>There were some questions recently (in the last couple of months) about
>PPP-over-ethernet in the comp.dcom.lans.ethernet newsgroup. Judging from
>the responses in that ng, there *is* something that does PPP-over-ethernet.

Normally, I hate replying to myself, but I'll make an exception in this case

>From http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-carrel-info-pppoe-02.txt

        RFC 2516: 

        Title:      Method for Transmitting PPP Over Ethernet (PPPoE)
        Author(s):  L. Mamakos, K. Lidl, J. Evarts, D. Carrel,
                    D. Simone, R. Wheeler
        Status:     Informational
        Date:       February 1999
        Mailbox:    [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
                    [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
                    [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
        Pages:      17
        Characters: 32537
        Updates/Obsoletes/See Also: None  
        I-D Tag:    draft-carrel-info-pppoe-02.txt

        URL:        ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2516.txt


The Point-to-Point Protocol (PPP) provides a standard method for
transporting multi-protocol datagrams over point-to-point links.  This
document describes how to build PPP sessions and encapsulate PPP
packets over Ethernet.

>Heavens knows why.
>
>
>On Tue, 29 Jun 1999 20:38:16 +0200, Sven Hazejager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Perhaps he's referring to ppp-over-tcp, aka tunneling? man ppp will do the
>>trick.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Sven
>>
>>Bill Unruh wrote:
>>
>>> I think you are confused. ppp is for installing a IP link over a phone
>>> line. For ethernet, you just use the standard networking that comes with
>>> all of those operating systems.
>>> (Note that ppp for phone line support also comes with all those
>>> distributions.)
>>
>
>
>Lew Pitcher
>System Consultant, Integration Solutions Architecture
>Toronto Dominion Bank
>
>([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
>
>(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)


Lew Pitcher
System Consultant, Integration Solutions Architecture
Toronto Dominion Bank

([EMAIL PROTECTED])


(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)

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From: Marten Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Authentification on Windows NT with ISDN
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 20:52:04 +0200



Malware schrieb:

> Hi Marten,
>
> you wrote:...
> Try following:
> - check your login and password
> - recompile ipppd with Microsoft-CHAP support enabled and setup
> /etc/ppp/protocols.chap. Remove options like "-chap" from your
> configuration.
>
> > Why doesn't the authentification over PAP work ??
>
> Does look a bit like the server is configured to accept PAP but does not
> find the password database or similiar.
>
> Malware

No I've checked my password and now I have these messages:

un 29 20:36:38 386 ipppd[565]: sent [0][LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1524> <magic
0x
48ad8c23>]
Jun 29 20:36:38 386 ipppd[565]: rcvd [0][LCP ConfReq id=0x0 <auth chap msoft>
<m
agic 0x6480> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Jun 29 20:36:38 386 ipppd[565]: sent [0][LCP ConfRej id=0x0 <auth chap msoft>
<p
comp> <accomp>]
Jun 29 20:36:38 386 ipppd[565]: rcvd [0][LCP ConfAck id=0x1 <mru 1524> <magic
0x
48ad8c23>]
Jun 29 20:36:38 386 ipppd[565]: rcvd [0][LCP TermReq id=0x1 00 00 02 dc]
Jun 29 20:36:38 386 ipppd[565]: sent [0][LCP TermAck id=0x1]
Jun 29 20:36:39 386 kernel: isdn: HiSax,ch0 cause: E0210
Jun 29 20:36:39 386 kernel: ippp1: remote hangup
Jun 29 20:36:39 386 kernel: ippp1: Chargesum is 0

Why is there no authentification with pap no more?? I really only changed my
Username .Strange or ??

Marten


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From: "LAU, ELIAS MOISES" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Banner after print job.
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:27:19 -0600

Tozz wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> When I print something to my HP LaserJet 4000 TN, I get a banner page after
> each print job when I send a print job to my linux box.
> 
> If I print to the printer on my NT Terminal server, everything works fine,
> so it's linux who adds the banner.
> 
> I tred some things in the PRINTCAP file, like :sh: etc, etc.. but they
> didn't wokr
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Rudy Broersma

Hello,

>From "man lpr"

[snip]

     -h      Suppress the printing of the burst page.

[snip]

I guess that's the flag you're looking for (i.e. lpr -h your_file).

Hope this helps.

Elias

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Date: 29 Jun 99 14:21:37 -0500
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PPP connection problem, Really need help.

Unrot13 this;
Reply to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Gene Heskett sends Greetings to Johann ;

All this html makes it hard to read your message, very hard.  Please use
*only* text mode when posting to a newsgroup.

> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> <HTML>
> &nbsp;
> <BR>&nbsp;
> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE><I></I>&nbsp;
> <BR><I>Other problem is my ISP uses proxy. So I have to manually set
> proxy in the</I>
> <BR><I>Netscape. But whenever I typed in the proxy , Netscape will
> tell me "unknown</I>
> <BR><I>host name" and refuse to accept it. What's the matter?</I>
> <BR>&nbsp;</BLOCKQUOTE>
> Make sure the internet connection is active, while configuring
> proxies.</HTML>

Is it case sensitive?  And do  you have all the other proxy info
entered?

And, once you get it going, go get a more recent version of netscape as
the first order of business.  Its up to 4.61 now.

Cheers, Gene
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From: "Verheijen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.networking.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.tcp-ip,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking,de.comp.os.unix.networking,fr.network.divers,memphis.networking,microsoft.public.win98.networking,redhat.networkin
Subject: Home networking for Linux
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 20:31:11 +0200

Hi,

I want to buy two network cards to connect my home computers.
I think 10Mb will be fast enough.
What is a cheap and 100% supported card for Linux?

Thanks in advance.

Wouter Verheijen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: "O'Loughlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MODEM NOT WORKING
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 20:02:46 +0100

Ah any new modem that is PCI is 99% chance a win modem's which need to use
the system processor in there opperation . Only windows has support for this
at the mo!

Note to all but _External_ modem's!


Anand C R (Oracle Apps Consultant) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7lat9i$p06$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> From: Anand C R (Oracle Apps Consultant) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: MODEM NOT WORKING
> Date: Tuesday, June 29, 1999 12:46 PM
>
>     I have a Zoom/FaxModem 56k-pci (model 2925) but for some strange
reason
> it doesn't work. I heard that some Winmodems don't work with linux. I paid
a
> high price for this, would be very disappointed to hear that it won't work
> with my Linux .........
>
> Any help is greatly appreciated........
>
> Thanks
> Anand
>
>
>
>
>
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Greg Comeau)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.lang.c++
Subject: Re: Why not C++
Date: 29 Jun 1999 14:56:15 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <7l4020$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Jackson) writes:
>Nathan Myers wrote:
>|> it's slower than (e.g.) C are just spreading FUD.
>
>well, yes and no.  Narrowly speaking, yes, give or
>take secondary points, such as:
>  - it gives you more ways to speed things up
>  - exception handling can impact the calls a little
>  - the tighter types can help the optimizer a little
>  - templates and STL can really help some apps

Ok'ish.

>but in some broader sense, there is an increased
>risk with C++, as compared to C, that someone not
>sufficiently skilled in the art will end up with
>slower code, not realizing that the extra features
>they are using do have a cost (virtual calls, lots
>of nickle and dime mallocs, ...)

Sometimes, yes.

>Then again, C has an increased risk, compared with
>C++, that someone will end up with a slower app
>because the lack of explicit support for certain
>patterns and techniques led them to doing something
>in some inappropriate homebrew fashion.

Usually I find folks making the point above to be biased and
never mentioned the counters like this.  Good for you.

>But my primary point here is that C++ is complex,
>like a Boeing 747 cockpit.  I've seen some large
>scale project pain, when developers tried too hard
>to use all that nice new "object oriented" stuff
>that was suppost to make life wonderful.  The pain
>certainly included "too slow", though a bigger
>problem was "difficult to maintain and adapt".

Ok, so I should infer from this that Boeing 747 pilots should
use every cockpit "button" on every flight just because the
buttons are there?  Granted, ok, maybe a Boing 747 cockpit
can be similified in some way, but what would you say about
such a pilot who did what I just inferred?  Now, what
do you want to say about the developers?

>Put it this way -- if I could actually try ten
>different teams of professional but not superstar
>programmers, using different languages to implement
>a real world (multi-year, requirements changing
>for the life of the project, ...) app, right
>now I'd bet that Python team (a delightful language
>that I just learning) would produce the fastest
>working app (because they'd have time to get the
>architecture and algorithms 'right'), and the C++
>team would produce one of the slower apps, with
>a few key loops going fast, but bogged down in a
>slew of other confusions.

You are really going out on a limb here.  "Programming"
is about concepts, techniques, understanding problems, etc.
Although I agree the different perspective of each respective
should not be discarded, you seem to be saying that changing
the language is going to make a genious out of an idiot,
and that's nuts.

Ok, maybe I'm missing your point.  Why would Python make the
architecture and algorithms  right'er?

- Greg
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From: "r.tolga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape has detected a /root/.netscape/lock file????
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 04:37:10 +0300

Ricker wrote:
> 
> Mandrake 6.0 - Netscape Communicator ver 4.6 - Anybody know what this is
> all about  .  If I right click any file in /root/nsmail Dir. it locks up
> machine, have to do hard reset.  I can delete the nsmail Dir. but
> Netscape puts it right back.  Everyting seems to work fine, just a extra
> click when I start Netscape.  Help please!!!
> 
> Thanks,

When you shutdown x without correctly closing Netscape,
it creates a [ .lock ] file. Just delete this file before
reopening 
netscape, and it should be OK.

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From: Ian Northeast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Telnet Linux->Windows question
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 20:49:06 +0100

Jeremy Page wrote:
> 
> When telneting from Red Hat 5.2 Linux into a Windows machine the
> keystrokes are misinterpreted and show up as garbage on the remote
> machine.
> 
> e.g typing "dir" gives "ddiirr^M" and other crap.
> 
> But I didnt ask for local echo, and the remote Windows machine reads my
> input as ddiirr^M anyway (so giving bad command error). Telneting using
> another Windows PC shows no problem.
> 
> Any pointers to sloving this?

As another respondent has asked, what telnetd software are you running
on Windows? I am using UWIN-NT and I do not have this problem (there are
a couple of little glitches but it's generally OK). 

Regards, Ian

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Subject: Re: Can't Telnet
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:41:59 GMT

On Tue, 29 Jun 1999 14:32:43 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>I have a Windows 98 box networked with a Linux box.  The Linux box is
>going to be a router for dial up access for about 8 computers.  My
>windows machine's gateway is the IP of the linux box.  I can telnet from
>the linux box to itself but i cant telnet to the windows box from linux,
>but i can ping.  Same thing happens from the windows to the linux.  Ay
>suggestions??  BTW IP of linux = 10.8.80.6 mask = 255.255.0.0  windows
>IP=10.8.80.7 mask = 255.255.0.0

IIRC, Windows98 doesn't come with a telnet server. Thus, the telnet client
on Linux doesn't have anyone to talk to on Windows98


>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Share what you know. Learn what you don't.


Lew Pitcher
System Consultant, Integration Solutions Architecture
Toronto Dominion Bank

([EMAIL PROTECTED])


(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)

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