Linux-Networking Digest #766, Volume #11 Fri, 2 Jul 99 23:13:50 EDT
Contents:
Re: telnet problems - no login shell (Charles)
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? ("Gene Heskett")
Re: zmodem with cu ("Gene Heskett")
Re: Linux-to-Linux and IP Masq ("Scotty Perkins")
Re: Problems running PPP scripts.... (Bill Unruh)
Re: ***Why can't dial out on my PPP server? (Bill Unruh)
Re: Linux as a real firewall ("GC")
Re: Smbmount problem. (Adrian Hands)
Re: PCI DSL modem = ATM??? (Greg Leblanc)
Re: Win-2-Linux-2-Net problem (much detail furnished) (Regit Young)
Trouble with DNS and Routing (root)
OK - I GIVE UP! - can't give users ftp access!!!!???? (Bob)
Re: Very big problem with RCP (Brian Vicente)
Re: aol under linux? (Nicholas E Couchman)
Re: need idiots guide to email (Ed Power)
Re: Trouble with DNS and Routing (n3gzw)
Re: Telnet problems (Brian Vicente)
Re: Linux VPN that is Compatable with Micro$oft? ("John Hardin")
linux as router to self - colo setup (Rich Roth)
Re: Switched IPs, now X doesn't work... HELP!!! ("Ricky J. Sethi")
Re: Why not C++ (Kaz Kylheku)
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From: Charles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: telnet problems - no login shell
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 00:30:46 GMT
Hi Torsten,
Removing my server's address from the list of Nameservers worked for me.
FTP and Telnet are working great!
Charles
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Date: 02 Jul 99 19:41:12 -0500
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark?
Unrot13 this;
Reply to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Gene Heskett sends Greetings to Geoff Winans;
GW> Csaba Raduly wrote:
>> Geoff Winans wrote:
>> ============== >8 ===============
>> > I have a technical problem--what kind of Oil do I use on my
>> > Deisel powered NIC? :)
>>
>> Snake oil, of course :-)
>> Csaba
>> --
>> Csaba Raduly, Software Developer (OS/2), Sophos Anti-Virus
>> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sophos.com/ US
>> Support +1 888 SOPHOS 9 UK Support +44 1235 559933 Life
>> is complex, with real and imaginary parts. <Space for hire>
GW> I just upgraded. My NIC now runs on a Nuclear generator. I'm
GW> having over-heating problems. Can anyone transport a cooling
GW> tower/plant to my place? I think I need a new case :)
Yeah, several inches of lead. Then, what do you do with the waste when
its time to 're-fuel' that puppy?
:-)
Cheers, Gene
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|Buddha + 4 gig WDC drive, 525 meg tape
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Date: 02 Jul 99 19:47:40 -0500
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: zmodem with cu
Unrot13 this;
Reply to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Gene Heskett sends Greetings to larry ;
I'd think you'd have to set it up as a shell script line, just as if you
were doing it by hand from a shell.
Do you have the zmodem docs? Since the algorythm(sp) is copyright Chuck
Foresburg at Omen Technology, and the sources can be freely downloaded
from there, or could be the last time I looked, I think I'd start there.
The docs that come with the archive are sparse but concise.
> I am using Expect scripts and cu to access (propriatary) systems
> remotely. Some systems offer zmodem transfers that I can acess using
> minicom. I would like to use expect and cu to complete these zmodem
> transfers but I'm unsure how to use zmodem with cu. Minicom's
> interface is to combersome for me to use with expect.
Cheers, Gene
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Ch. Eng. @ WDTV-5 |A2091,GuruRom,1g Seagate,CDROM,Multiface III
|Buddha + 4 gig WDC drive, 525 meg tape
|Stylus Pro, EnPrint, Picasso-II, 17" vga
RC5-Moo! 690kkeys/sec isn't much, but it all helps
email gene underscore heskett at iolinc dot net
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From: "Scotty Perkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux-to-Linux and IP Masq
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 15:19:20 -0700
Got it! Thanks!
scotty
Scotty Perkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7lj2n1$abh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Here's an easy for you, hopefully:
>
> I have a RH 5.2 box that has IP Masq configured to masquerade any device
on
> my private subnet (192.168.x.x) as the modem when I dial up to my ISP. I
> have three computers on my little network using this setup without any
> issues, a WinNT/Win98 dual-boot box, a Win95 laptop, and a Mac.
>
> However, I added RH 6.0 to the dual-boot box, and when I boot into it, I
> cannot get any packets, even though I configured the network/subnet
> mask/gateway the same as on the other OS configurations. I also used an IP
> one up from the Windows configuration (.6 versus .5) just so there would
not
> be a hostname-versus-IP conflict when I boot to a different hostname in
> Linux as in NT/98.
>
> Is there something trivial about RH 6.0 or Linux-to-Linux connectivity
> through IP Masq that I need to worry about?
>
> Any suggestions are appreciated.
>
> scotty
>
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: Problems running PPP scripts....
Date: 3 Jul 1999 00:58:51 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cheesewizz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
]Here's my problem: I use a script 'ppp-on,' which connects just fine if
]the root user executes it, but if I execute that same script as a normal
]user, the script fails with these messages:
]Jul 2 00:57:34 blah pppd[296]: pppd 2.3.5 started by bob, uid 500
]Jul 2 00:57:35 blah pppd[296]: Connect script failed
Look in /var/log/messages to see why the connect script failed.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: ***Why can't dial out on my PPP server?
Date: 3 Jul 1999 01:00:49 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> guanghe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>I use Redhat 6.0 to setup a PPP server and want it can call back,
>now the PPP server is fine to waiting for call in,but when I dial
>out,it report:
>'Can't open /dev/ttyS2,the resource is busy'.
>I use getty_ps,and set /etc/inittab so:
>s2:345:respawn:/sbin/uugetty -D /etc/conf.getty.ttyS2 F115200 vt100
I do not know how uugetty works, but apparently it is blocking the port.
Get mgetty and use it instead. It will not block the port. If you use
pppd with the lock option (eg in /etc/ppp/options) mgetty and pppd will
live together very happily.
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From: "GC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux as a real firewall
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 02:22:17 GMT
Thank you all for your input!
-GC
GC wrote in message ...
>Re-building our company's WAN and allowing internet access from one point
to
>all. I have a 4 pc network and @home network here which uses Linux and
>ipfwadm to protect the pc's at the house, and it works fine.I want to use
>the same for my business. I have about 500 users total scattered around.
Use
>is not heavy except e-mail, and about 50 people who may do research, etc.
>Any reason NOT to use Linux for this? I have been a big booster of Linux
>since 1.0.x kernel, but have never deployed it at work for fear that "you
>get what you pay for" will catch up with me. But I can't stand giving money
>to Microsoft. The alternative is something like Eagle on NT.
>
>Any Linux firewall horror stories? Any great successes?
>
>I have also tried and like the linux Router Project stuff...any comments on
>that?
>
>-George C
>
>
>
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From: Adrian Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Smbmount problem.
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 21:17:15 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
root wrote:
>
> Habib wrote:
>
> > I use Red Hat 5.2, and have just upgraded from the 2.0.37 kernel, to
> > the 2.2.9 kernel. Ever since I have upgraded my smbmount does not
> > work. An error is given saying:
> >
> > mount error: Invalid argument.
> > Please look at smbmount's man page for possible reasons.
> >
> > The command I type is smbmount //wincomp/c /mnt/localdir -c
> > mylinuxservername
> > This is the command that I have always been using. I have tried
> > upgrading samba to various versions, and right now I am using
> > samba-2.0.4b-19990519. I am also sure that the smb filesystem is
> > compiled into my kernel since I recopmiled my kernel a 2nd time just to
> > make sure. Any help that is given will be appreciated.
>
> this is the format i use:
>
> smbmount //cs197312-b/music1 lovelace -c 'mount /mnt/music1'
>
> -c is a command. i'm not sure why you would use your server name as an
> argument.
At some point the syntax must've changed because I used to do this:
$ smbmount "//$machine_name/c" $mount_point -I $host -U "$username" -P
"$password"
then I had to change to this:
$ smbmount "//$machine_name/c" "$password" -I $host -c "mount
$mount_point"
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From: Greg Leblanc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PCI DSL modem = ATM???
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 00:09:36 GMT
I know that here is US West land, DSL is ATM, they just have consumer
grade ATM routers/switches. I'm not sure, but I know that it is
possible to use other technologies to get DSL over phone wires. Later,
Greg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Scott Marlowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, I was just installing my PCI internal DSL modem under Winders for
> testing first, and Windows thought it was an ATM modem. It uses
RFC1483
> as a driver standard, and after looking up RFC1483 and seeing it
banied
> about on several sites about ATM, I'm beginning to wonder if the ATM
on
> linux project might be some help. It really seems to be maturing, and
> if the internal PCI DSL cards could be made to work with the ATM
suite,
> we'd be in like flynn.
>
> If anyone has any pointers before I break out gcc and start tying to
> hack up something that works, let me know.
>
>
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From: Regit Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,aus.computers.linux,comp.protocols.smb,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.ppp
Subject: Re: Win-2-Linux-2-Net problem (much detail furnished)
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 09:15:21 +0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Try this:
ipchains -P forward DENY
ipchains -A forward -s 192.168.0.0/24 -d 0.0.0.0/0 -j MASQ
> # ipchains -P DENY
> # ipchains -A forward -s ppp0 -j MASQ
And try not to set a defaultroute for LinuxBox prior to ppp connection
... not sure how you end up with this routing table ...
> -route
> Kernel IP routing table
> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref
> Use Iface
> 204.52.135.145 * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0
> 0 ppp0
> 192.168.0.1 * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0
> 0 eth0
> 192.168.0.0 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.0 UG 0 0
> 0 eth0
> 192.168.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0
> 0 eth0
> 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0
> 0 lo
> default 204.52.135.145 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0
> 0 ppp0
> default 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0
> 0 eth0
>
How about some output/setting from Win98 (ie. dns setting, gateway ...),
try a trace from the Win98 instead ...
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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.ppp,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Trouble with DNS and Routing
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 21:41:46 -0400
I am a newbie to networking. I have a small 2 PC home LAN which I was
successful in setting up. My Linux box (Red Hat 5.2 ) is set up as my
DNS server. My other machine is a Win 98 box.
I am trying to use my Linux machine as my gateway to the outside world,
through a dial up (PPP) connection to my ISP. Is there a way to give my
Win machine access to the internet by having it routed through the linux
box? I have tried adding my ISP's DNS address as a forwarding option
in my named.config file and it did not work. I am able to ping both
machines locally, but I can not ping anything outside my local network
from my Windows machine.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
David
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: OK - I GIVE UP! - can't give users ftp access!!!!????
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 02:07:40 GMT
thought I had this nailed when I finally got anon access...
but guess not - running mandrake 6 (rh6) beroftpd;
my ftp user's home is /home/ftp and is 0777;
my ftphosts has "allow 192.168.1.*"
my ftpusers has root, and various admin logins; BUT NO
users (that are supposed to use ftp)
I have an ftpgroups which has a test entry, and have not touched.
I have checked & re-checked ftpaccess, and can find NO security
entries for this file.
in fact, found NO man pages for /etc/ftp*.
(except for ftpaccess - which as I said doesn't seem to address
security)
SO - anon can login, no problem.
real users get bad passwd.
is there an ftppasswd file or something that i'm missing?
how exactly DOES ftp authenticate users?
does it use passwd?
my passwd file doesn't even have des encrypted passwords -
just "x"'s....
where ARE the passwords really stored??!!!
ok - enuf rambling - any help?
tia - Bob
________________________________________________
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A 32 bit upgrade to 16 bit extensions for an 8 bit operating system
designed to run on a 4 bit processor by a 2 bit company that
doesn't like 1 bit of competition.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Vicente)
Subject: Re: Very big problem with RCP
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 01:58:23 GMT
You have to have a '.rhosts' file in your home directory on the
machine you are trying to connect to.
ex.
machine_from_where root
machnie2 my_username
"Graham Holt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>You have the same users on all machines. Are the uid and gid s the same on
>all machines for all users.
>Graham
>Giacomo Pasinetti wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>>I have 3 different server in 3 different subnetworks connected by
>>routers.
>>The hosts file is ok.
>>I have the /etc/hosts.equiv file with :
>>SERVER USERNAME
>>
>>I have the same user on all servers.
>>File and directory permission are ok ; but I can do rcp: It says
>>permission denied.
>>HElp !!!!! :-((
>>
>>Giacomo.
>>
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From: Nicholas E Couchman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: aol under linux?
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 02:24:42 GMT
If you can establish a PPP connection to AOL, you should be able to do some
searching (hacking?) and find out the name and/or IP address of the mail
server. The server should either be POP/2/3, or IMAP. Netscape supports
both(all) of these protocols, and so do many more Unix/Linux mail checkers.
This should allow you to check email. You can then find out the gateway or
proxy server in AOL and use that under the Linux setup or the web browser setup.
--Nick
LikeFUN024 wrote:
> i've heard of some people getting aol to work under linux and i'm trying to
> find a page that might explain it to me in detail. any information would be
> greatly appreciated. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Ed Power <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: need idiots guide to email
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 22:24:29 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RAYG wrote:
>
> I have been assigned the task of setting up email for about 4k people. I
> have been told I can do it anyway that I want, BUT I must use linux. Are
> there any websites or books that anyone can recommend that might help me do
> this. I need to be able to give them the hardware requirements fairly soon.
> The project itself has to be completed by August. I am not new to unix but I
> am by no means a pro. I am pretty much a newbie to linux since I have not
> used it for some time (since version 2 more or less).
>
> Roughly, I need to know how to setup up email on a linux box(es), and what
> client software can be used to access the email. While I have used pine I
> would prefer to somehow be able to use Outlook express or similar product as
> the client software. We have a fairly large network and all the clients are
> w95, w98, or NT, and some users will be accessing their email via the web.
> Is it possible to use a GUI and or web browser interface. If it is where can
> I find out how to do it. I need to become an email pro real quick. Any
> recommended reference information would be appreciated big time.
I would recommend using netscape to access the mail. It works nicely
with Linux. It installs with a nice gui interface which can read most
mail types. I installed it under linux without problems. Just get the
necessary versions for Windows 95/98/NT etc.
You can use the program IPOPD to set up the POP3 mail server. FTP into
sunsite.unc.edu. There are tons of programs there for mail routing,
mail delivery and mail reading.
I hope this helps.
--
Ed Power
Proprietor
Computer Headaches
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web: http://www.ComputerHeadaches.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (n3gzw)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.ppp,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Trouble with DNS and Routing
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 02:34:13 GMT
You are going to have to recompile the kernel to include ipmasq. Then
throw a few command at it to allow the other machines to pass thru and
then you shouldn't have any problems
On Fri, 02 Jul 1999 21:41:46 -0400, root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>I am a newbie to networking. I have a small 2 PC home LAN which I was
>successful in setting up. My Linux box (Red Hat 5.2 ) is set up as my
>DNS server. My other machine is a Win 98 box.
>
>I am trying to use my Linux machine as my gateway to the outside world,
>through a dial up (PPP) connection to my ISP. Is there a way to give my
>Win machine access to the internet by having it routed through the linux
>box? I have tried adding my ISP's DNS address as a forwarding option
>in my named.config file and it did not work. I am able to ping both
>machines locally, but I can not ping anything outside my local network
>from my Windows machine.
>
>Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>
>David
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Vicente)
Subject: Re: Telnet problems
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 01:56:11 GMT
You can edit /etc/hosts.allow to add your machine you are connecting
from.ex:
ALL:<your ip coming from here>
Or if you don't security add
ALL:ALL
Bill Pitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> gave us the interesting posting of:
>> I have the same EXACT problem as Hugh. I tried editting the securetty
>> file and still doesn';t work.
>Have you tried adding entries for the IP addresses of the other host(s)
>into /etc/hosts? Usually it likes to reverse resolve the IP's before it
>will let you in. securetty only controls the login for root, it wouldn't
>stop you from getting a login prompt.
>-Bill
>--
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From: "John Hardin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux VPN that is Compatable with Micro$oft?
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 19:29:54 -0700
Bob wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Mike Gorsuch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Hey fellas, maybe you guys can give me a few pointers. Our company
has a
>>high speed connection to the internet and would like to set up a VPN
>>system so users can access network info from anywhere in the world.
>>Since our clients are Windows 98 based, we will need a compatible
>>solution. I'm asking you for a software suit available to Linux
that will
>>be compatible with Windows, and it must be STABLE and SECURE... any
>>suggestions?
>
>well - 1st things 1st - microsoft didn't come up with vpn - they only
>gave it a different name.
>
>vpn IS microsofts' version of *nix's pptp.
Erm,
"VPN" is a generic term. PPTP is a specific VPN protocol that MS
codesigned and are supplying as the default VPN for their operating
systems.
There is native-Linux PPTP and IPsec software. Visit my VPN Masq home
page for URLs:
ftp://ftp.rubyriver.com/pub/jhardin/masquerade/ip_masq_vpn.html
If you want to support J. Random Windows User without causing them too
much hassle, you'll probably want to set up a PPTP server using
PoPToP. If you want the greatest security and don't mind a little more
administrative overhead, take a look at FreeS/WAN for implementing
IPsec. Unfortunately I can't recommend a Windows IPsec client, as I
don't know what's available by itself (i.e. without also buying the
vendor's IPsec server package).
--
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From: Rich Roth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: linux as router to self - colo setup
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 23:01:33 -0400
I've got a linux box (RHS 6.0) just installed in colocation facility and
we can't get the routing proper.
The colo admins said they are routing our secondary block to our main IP
address. Which means our box has to act as
a router with the IP block behind it EXCEPT they are all on the same
machine
The IP block is: (slightly adjusted):
212.175.123.96/27
with the main IP as: 212.42.211.118 with gateway as 212.42.211.1
The linux box route table shows:
# route -n
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags
Metric Ref Use Iface
212.42.211.118 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH
0 0 0 eth0
212.175.123.96 212.42.211.118 255.255.255.224 UG 0
0 0 eth0
212.175.123.96 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.224 U
0 0 0 eth0
212.42.211.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U
0 0 0 eth0
127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0
U 0 0 0 lo
0.0.0.0 212.42.211.1 0.0.0.0
UG 0 0 0 eth0
What we tried to do, was to route the IP block as a network to our own
main IP address as it's gateway.
We can get to the Main UP just fine, and we defined one of the secondary
ones using iconfig to eth0:1 to give:
eth0:1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:A0:CC:26:34:F6
inet addr:212.175.123.97 Bcast:212.175.123.127
Mask:255.255.255.224
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
Interrupt:10 Base address:0xd000
But we can't get to it -- any ideas welcome.
(BTW, if you want a challege there is an NT box next to our linux box
that is doing this fine (different but similer set of IP addresses
but since NT is so visual we can't make sense out of the routing table.)
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From: "Ricky J. Sethi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Switched IPs, now X doesn't work... HELP!!!
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 19:52:28 -0700
Hi Nathan,
I think you've got it set with the hostname instead of the IP. You could
put an entry in your own /etc/hosts associating the new IP with your
hostname. Otherwise, if you have access to the DNS records, tell em to
change the A record to point copper.natethelen.com to your new IP instead of
the old one. Also, to explicitly tell it to use your IP instead of the
hostname.
Good luck,
Rick.
Nathanial P Thelen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I know that the subject looks like I am a moron, I was just hoping to
> get some attention.
>
> I am running RedHat 5 and had to move it to a new IP. I went through
> everything I can think of and got everything switched over (including
> Internic because I am serving a few domains) so that it all works
> correctly except for one thing: X. Now when I start up X I get the
> following error:
>
> _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
> _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
> xrdb: Connection refused
> xrdb: Can't open display 'copper.natethelen.com:1'
> _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
> _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
> _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
> _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
> _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
> _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
> xsetroot: unable to open display 'copper.natethelen.com:1'
> _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
> _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
> _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
> _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
> _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
> _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
> _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
> _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
> _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
> _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
> xterm Xt error: Can't open display: copper.natethelen.com:1
> _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
> _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
> kcontrol: cannot connect to X server copper.natethelen.com:1
> _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
> _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
> _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
> _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
> _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
> _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
>
> and so on...
>
> Since really the only thing that has changed is the IP, I have
> searched through everything I know of related to X and looked for an
> entry with the old IP in it. Does anyone have any suggestions?
>
> Nate
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaz Kylheku)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Why not C++
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 02:40:23 GMT
On Sat, 03 Jul 1999 03:30:49 +0300, Timo Tossavainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Nathan Myers wrote:
>>
>> Timo Tossavainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >Your Lisp-bashing has gone a bit too far.
>>
>> I have not bashed Lisp. I have not seen any bashing of Lisp here.
>>
>> The subject is C++, and I have posted correcting falsehoods
>> written about C++. It happens that Lisp doesn't meet my needs,
>> but it doesn't seem to have been meant to. That's OK.
>
>Well, I'll explain that comment:
>
>Johan> some would say static typing is a burden.
>
>Nathan> Many people are either unwilling or unable to assume the burden
>of
>Nathan> rigorous engineering. In fact, they are overwhelmingly in the
>majority.
>
>I read between the lines that you don't think that rigorous engineering
>can be done with dynamic typing. If I misterpreted, I apologize.
I read it as saying that it's easier to let the computer take care of
the tedium of verifying that an object that is intented to represent some
type is not misinterpreted as some other type. Users of statically
typed langauges are unwilling to sacrifice execution speed for
convenience, so they undertake the relatively small burden of ensuring
that everything is declared properly and made subject to correct
operations. This burden is small compared to ensuring correctness ``by
hand'' in a typeless language like BCPL or assembly.
But typeless languages should not be confused with dynamically typed languages.
Users of Lisp or Smalltalk do not want either burden, and pay for that with
cycles.
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