Linux-Networking Digest #313, Volume #12 Sat, 21 Aug 99 10:14:10 EDT
Contents:
Re: PPP and default route (W.G. Unruh)
Please help me setup this network ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: failing network connection ("Bjorn Comhaire")
TA or internal modem? ("Renji Panicker")
Re: Win98 / Linux hardware ("W.A. Scheer")
Linux Cookbook Project Officially begins! ("W.A. Scheer")
Re: pppd dies for some connections (Clifford Kite)
Re: PAP authentication error (Clifford Kite)
Re: Win98 / Linux hardware ("kozmos")
Re: PPP and default route ("kozmos")
PCMCIA/DHCP help ! ("Ruben")
Ericsson HiS modem (Repost) ("Anonymous")
ethernet switch ("Gary R. Skuse, Ph.D.")
Re: Telnet problems (Yury Donskoy)
Re: pppd in 'setuid-root' mode (Clifford Kite)
ethernet switch ("Gary R. Skuse, Ph.D.")
ethernet switch ("Gary R. Skuse, Ph.D.")
Re: Samba--Who am I? (Rob Clark)
network printers (Roland Schatz)
Re: PAP authentication error (Rob Clark)
How do you setup an IMAP server on Linux ... (Jerry Abramson)
Re: what does MS dial up networking do that PPP doesn't ? (Cameron L. Spitzer)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (W.G. Unruh)
Subject: Re: PPP and default route
Date: 21 Aug 99 11:53:20 GMT
"Richard Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>I'm stuck! First I've read the PPP howto, the ISP connect howto, he
>IP-masquerade howto, the route man pages, etc.. Yes I've RTFM'd. According
>to the PPP howto when my modem connects (through minicom just now) it enters
>PPP mode after I log in. My ISP uses dynamic IP addresses. The problem is
>the howto states that ppp0 should become my default route. I show no
a) You must give pppd the option
defaultroute
put that word into /etc/ppp/options.
b>) You must not have any default routes set up before your connect to pppd.
route -n
will show a line starting with 0.0.0.0 if there is a default route set up.
If there is, do
route del default
before starting up ppppd
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Please help me setup this network
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 11:45:45 GMT
Hi, I'm looking to set up my homenetwork. I have three computers, one
is going to act as a server running RH 6.0 and has two NIC's. The other
two will run Linux/Win98/Win95. Can anyone help me out as to how I
would go about doing this or recommend a good website? Thanks! - Chris
--
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From: "Bjorn Comhaire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: be.comp.os.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: failing network connection
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 14:13:37 +0200
Luc De Cock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Bjorn Comhaire wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a pentium running redhat 5.2 and win95, with a 3com 3c509 network
> > card.
> >
> > For some reason currently not known to me (off course) the box won't
connect
> > to my LAN. I've reinstalled the 5.2 but the same thing occured again.
Here
> > are some facts:
> >
> > UTP connection
> > i/o=0x300 ==> no conflicts
> > irq=10 ==> no conflicts
> > ping myself: OK
> > ping another computer on the network: eth0 timeout !!
> > The office hub does NOT show a connection with the box !!
> >
> > When I restart win95, everything works fine again.
> >
> > I guess the card is working fine but for some reason won't interact with
the
> > outside world when configured in linux.
> >
> > Any tips or other help would be very much appreciated.
> > Bj�rn
>
> The 3COM 3C509 card is normally configured to detect the media
automaticly.
> This
> will confuse the 3c509 driver from Becker that it will choose the wrong
media.
> Try putting the card on a fix media type, eg UTP or BNC but NOT
autodetect.
>
> Luc.
>
Thanks Luc, this seems a very plausible suggestion since the connection
worked previously when we still had the coax network.
So, OK... how do do I go about changing the media type ? I can't seem to
find any switches on the card (or am I overlooking something)...
Bjorn ?
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From: "Renji Panicker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: TA or internal modem?
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 18:01:57 +0530
Hi,
Could someone tell me what is the advantages and disadvantages of Terminal
Adaptors and Internal Modems, or direct me to a site where I can get this
comparision info? I am trying to decide between the two for company and
would appreciate any help I can get.. I am using Linux as my dial up client,
and as dialin server...
Thanks,
-/renji
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From: "W.A. Scheer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Win98 / Linux hardware
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 23:26:42 -0700
My experience has been good with Intel, IBM and Adaptec PCI cards.
I generally try to avoid ISA cards like the plague with Linux - I always
seem to have bad luck. Although I like the above mentioned brands ...
probably any PCI cards on the RedHat compatibility list should be fine. I
have a friend who uses SMC stuff and is fairly happy with them. Any reason
why you are stuck on RHL 5.2? I'll be happy to send you a RHL 6.0 CD if you
are looking for a upgrade! Just email me directly with address, etc.
W.A. Scheer
Timothy Muir wrote in message <7pl5gm$h0b$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I have a Celeron 400 dual booting with Windows 98 and Redhat Linux 5.2 and
a
>486 DX4 100 which I want to network together.
>
>In the 486 I have a 3Com network card, (it has one coax and one rj45 ?
>connection in the back of it)
>I am looking for recommendations on the best network card to use. (should I
>ditch the 3com card and get another one ?)
>
>
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From: "W.A. Scheer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Linux Cookbook Project Officially begins!
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 23:41:44 -0700
This project is tasked with creating high-quality, newbie-friendly
documentation centered on specific distributions of Linux (Presently RedHat
and Caldera) and towards accomplishing specific tasks with minimal theory
and hassle. The editorial standards will decidely anti-command-line wherever
possible and applicable in order to address the widest possible audience.
The following documentation is currently planned or in the production
process:
1) RedHat Linux 6.0 Installation Cookbook
2) Caldera OpenLinux 2.2 Installation Cookbook
3) Windows / Samba Basics Cookbook for RedHat 6.0
4) Windows / Samba Basics Cookbook for Caldera OpenLinux 2.2
Other cookbooks will include more advanced Samba configurations, netatalk,
basic sendmail config for SOHO users & Apache server basics.
Posting to a web site will begin in the next few weeks.
I need the following:
1) Volunteers to edit, test and/or review copy.
2) Subject matter experts who will answer queries in a timely manner
3) Writers to take on projects
Please respond directly via email if interested.
Thanks,
W.A. Scheer
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From: kite@NoSpam.%inetport.com (Clifford Kite)
Subject: Re: pppd dies for some connections
Date: 21 Aug 1999 07:17:30 -0500
Sean Harding ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Aug 20 22:00:27 eris pppd[623]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0xc5 <asyncmap 0xa0000> <auth
:chap MD5> <magic 0x1bb64741> <pcomp> <accomp>]
: Aug 20 22:00:27 eris pppd[623]: sent [LCP ConfRej id=0xc5 <auth chap MD5>]
: Aug 20 22:00:27 eris pppd[623]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
: Aug 20 22:00:27 eris pppd[623]: Modem hangup
: Aug 20 22:00:27 eris pppd[623]: Connection terminated.
: Aug 20 22:00:27 eris pppd[623]: Connect time 0.1 minutes.
: Aug 20 22:00:27 eris pppd[623]: Exit.
: I played with /etc/ppp/chap-secrets a little, but I didn't spend a whole
: lot of time on it because I wasn't sure I was travelling down the right
: path.
It's the right path. You need a line like this in chap-secrets:
<your.peer.account.name> * <the.secret>
and the pppd option name <your.peer.account.name> in /etc/ppp/options.
With the obvious substitutions.
--
Clifford Kite <kite@inet%port.com> Not a guru. (tm)
/* For every credibility gap, there is a gullibility fill.
-- R. Clopton */
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From: kite@NoSpam.%inetport.com (Clifford Kite)
Subject: Re: PAP authentication error
Date: 21 Aug 1999 07:40:33 -0500
Greg W. Moore ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I'm a bit of a newbie when it comes to Linux (red hat 6) and I'm having
: problems when it comes to connecting to my isp (best.com) via ISDN with
: an external 3Com impactIQ on com1 I keep getting: "pppd[2212]: PAP
: authentication failed"
[edited]
: Aug 18 17:51:17 gregm pppd[2212]: PAP authentication failed
: Aug 18 17:52:10 gregm pppd[2212]: Terminating on signal 2.
: Aug 18 17:52:10 gregm pppd[2212]: Connection terminated.
: Aug 18 17:52:10 gregm pppd[2212]: Connect time 1.0 minutes.
: Aug 18 17:52:10 gregm pppd[2212]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
: Aug 18 17:52:10 gregm pppd[2212]: Exit.
: ===============================
: ppp-on
: #!/bin/sh
: #
: TELEPHONE=16509640240 # The telephone number for the connection
: ACCOUNT=gregm # The account name for logon (as in 'George Burns')
: PASSWORD=XXXXXXXXX # The password for this account (and 'Gracie Allen')
: LOCAL_IP=0.0.0.0 # Local IP address if known. Dynamic = 0.0.0.0
: REMOTE_IP=0.0.0.0 # Remote IP address if desired. Normally 0.0.0.0
: NETMASK=255.255.255.0 # The proper netmask if needed
: export TELEPHONE ACCOUNT PASSWORD
: DIALER_SCRIPT=/etc/ppp/ppp-on-dialer
: #
: exec /usr/sbin/pppd debug lock modem crtscts /dev/ttyS0 115200 \
: asyncmap 20A0000 escape FF kdebug 0 $LOCAL_IP:$REMOTE_IP \
: papcrypt noipdefault defaultroute connect $DIALER_SCRIPT
Add the option user $ACCOUNT to the ones above.
Two suggestions: Remove the "escape FF" which is rarely needed and can
cause troble with some ISPs, and change 20a0000 to 200a0000, this is
a distribution PPP configuration error. Not related to the PAP
authentication problem though.
: ===============================
: pap-secrets
: # Secrets for authentication using PAP
: # client server secret IP addresses
: gregm ppp0 XXXXXXX
Use a * instead of ppp0 in the above line.
: ===============================
: ppp-on-dialer
: #!/bin/sh
: #
: # This is part 2 of the ppp-on script. It will perform the connection
: # protocol for the desired connection.
: #
: exec chat -v \
: TIMEOUT 3 \
: ABORT '\nBUSY\r' \
: ABORT '\nNO ANSWER\r' \
: ABORT '\nRINGING\r\n\r\nRINGING\r' \
: '' \rAT \
: 'OK-+++\c-OK' ATH0 \
: TIMEOUT 30 \
: OK ATD$TELEPHONE \
: CONNECT '' \
: ogin:--ogin: $ACCOUNT \
: assword: $PASSWORD
Change the last three lines to
CONNECT '\d\c'
# ogin:--ogin: $ACCOUNT \
# assword: $PASSWORD
Please note that the new CONNECT line no longer has an escape (\) at the
end of it.
The \rAT in the chat argument list above should be '\rAT', yet another
distribution bug, but not related to the PAP problem.
--
Clifford Kite <kite@inet%port.com> Not a guru. (tm)
/* Those who can't write, write manuals. */
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From: "kozmos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Win98 / Linux hardware
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 12:34:52 +0200
Pozdrav.
The best thing you do is to have exactly the same network cards in all
computers (in your case 3COM).
Za domovino,
Roman
Timothy Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7pl5gm$h0b$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have a Celeron 400 dual booting with Windows 98 and Redhat Linux 5.2 and
a
> 486 DX4 100 which I want to network together.
>
> In the 486 I have a 3Com network card, (it has one coax and one rj45 ?
> connection in the back of it)
> I am looking for recommendations on the best network card to use. (should
I
> ditch the 3com card and get another one ?)
>
>
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From: "kozmos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PPP and default route
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 12:32:18 +0200
Pozdrav.
Try to add a line
defaultroute
to yout /etc/ppp/options
Maybe it will help....
Za domovino,
Roman
Richard Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:LEov3.1192$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm stuck! First I've read the PPP howto, the ISP connect howto, he
> IP-masquerade howto, the route man pages, etc.. Yes I've RTFM'd.
According
> to the PPP howto when my modem connects (through minicom just now) it
enters
> PPP mode after I log in. My ISP uses dynamic IP addresses. The problem
is
> the howto states that ppp0 should become my default route. I show no
> default route either before or after I make the PPP connection. route -n
> shows one ppp0 route which is the server's IP address. ifconfig shows
both
> the server address and my dhcp assigned address. The problem is I do not
> show my IP address as a default route. My box is on a small home network
> and I do have a gateway defined between my normal network and the box I'm
> connecting from. I have two nic cards in my server. My plan is to setup
> the second box/network as a firewall once I get connected. IP forwarding
is
> enabled on both boxes (RedHat 5.2 kernel 2.0.36) IP masquerading is
enabled
> on both boxes and seems to work (all packets from my main network show up
as
> coming from the firewall side of the server). I cannot find anyplace
where
> I'm setting a default route and I don't know how to set one up ppp0 can
> replace it.(if I'm reading the howto correctly).
> Any advise will be greatly appreciated. I know this is not cool but if
you
> can please reply both to me directly and the group. My new server scrolls
> this group off in about 24 hours and I may never see your reply too the
> group. Richard
>
>
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From: "Ruben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: PCMCIA/DHCP help !
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 09:08:34 -0400
Hi there fellas,
I got my PCMCIA card running, it even do the DHCP routine.
It gets its IP
address and everything. Now the problem is that none of the
communication
programs (ping,ftp,telnet,lynx,netscape and so forth) seems to
realize that it
already has a internet connection, therefore giving me errors
such as:
connection refused , unknown remote host , and several other.
I(since using
BugHat 6 )have got the linuxconf and network tools, but these
are really
prodigal. They're just a waste of time. I even tried to
configure'em manually
/etc/hosts
/etc/host.conf
This effort's been futile. Since for some reason RH just
overwrite'em each
time I reboot. I went to LDP web site and found some
information about DHCP
and PCMCIA but I'm not able to connect still.
Help is appreciated,
Ruben
"Is it hot in here or it's just me?" -An Overclocked CPU
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From: "Anonymous" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: jaring.os.linux
Subject: Ericsson HiS modem (Repost)
Date: 21 Aug 1999 12:47:13 GMT
Hello,
Anyone have using Ericsson HiS (home-internet-solution) Modem with Linux ?
I'm having a problem connecting HiS modem with my Linux (RH5.2),
I created a chat script for this, as follow :
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"" \n
> login mylogin
pass: mypasscode
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I got above info through window-95 terminal program talk with the HiS
modem.
The Linux settings is 115200bps, ffowcontrol = crtrts, data bit 8, 1 stop
bit and none parity.
However, I can connected using Win95 and the chat is proven work since I
succesful
simulate the modem by connecting the linux to my win95 PC running
"hyper-terminal" to
simulate( Ie I type in >, ogin:. word: .. etc)
The /var/log/ppp files just list that chat-script fail. (howver it success
if I "simulate" it with win95 as above)
Note: my chat-script and ppp connection proven work with "normal" standard
modem dial-up to ISP.
Any clue ?
Thank,
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
:< [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:< [EMAIL PROTECTED]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From: "Gary R. Skuse, Ph.D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ethernet switch
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 09:05:37 -0400
This week I replaced the 10mbps hub in my network with a 10/100mbps
switch and did't get the performance increase I expected. Traffic
appears to be "bursty". For example I lose packets (10-25%) when I ping
across the network and ftp transfers are jerky. Has anyone experienced
this?
FYI, my network consists of two linux boxes, one doing ip masquerading
whilst attached to my ISP via modem, and several windows boxes. The
performance I see is consistant regardless of which boxes are
communicating. Can anyone suggest a way to eliminate the observed
latencies?
-Gary
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 08:48:14 -0400
From: Yury Donskoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Telnet problems
How do I do that?
Marshall wrote:
> Could it be a "port" issue ?. That is: find out if you have a block on that
> port.
>
> Yury Donskoy wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >Hi there,
> >
> >I'm having a weird problem with telnet which appears to have recently
> >started, I believe after I went from RH 5.2 to Mandrake 6.0. The
> >problem is this: telneting from a Win'98 box to my Linux server displays
> >the 'issue.net' file, and then dies. I don't even get a 'Login:'
> >prompt. But, if I telnet from the Linux box to itself using the box's
> >own IP address, everything works correctly. Now, this network of mine,
> >everything else works. Samba, FTP, etc. It all works, except for
> >telnet. Does anyone have any suggestionss? hosts.allow is set
> >correctly, and so is hosts.
> >
> >Thanks.
> >Yury.
> >
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From: kite@NoSpam.%inetport.com (Clifford Kite)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: pppd in 'setuid-root' mode
Date: 21 Aug 1999 08:07:21 -0500
John Hasler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: None of the above. From the SETUP file in ppp-2.3.8:
: The recommended way to set up to dial an ISP is for the system
: administrator to create a file under /etc/ppp/peers, named for the ISP
: that you will be dialling. For example, suppose the file is called
Duh. What goes good with crow? You're right, this dial-up configuration
does not require user read/write permissions for the device file. My
only (weak) excuse is that this feature is unadvertised in the pppd
documentation. As you point out it also has the advantage over demand
that more than one dial-out connection can be configured.
Thanks for the new insight!
--
Clifford Kite <kite@inet%port.com> Not a guru. (tm)
/* Microsoft is a great marketing organization.
* It _has_ to be */
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From: "Gary R. Skuse, Ph.D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ethernet switch
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 08:59:47 -0400
This week I replaced the 10mbps hub in my network with a 10/100mbps
switch and did't get the performance increase I expected. Traffic
appears to be "bursty". For example I lose packets (10-25%) when I ping
across the network and ftp transfers are jerky. Has anyone experienced
this?
FYI, my network consists of two linux boxes, one doing ip masquerading
whilst attached to my ISP via modem, and several windows boxes. The
performance I see is consistant regardless of which boxes are
communicating. Can anyone suggest a way to eliminate the observed
latencies?
-Gary
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Gary R. Skuse, Ph.D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ethernet switch
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 09:00:30 -0400
This week I replaced the 10mbps hub in my network with a 10/100mbps
switch and did't get the performance increase I expected. Traffic
appears to be "bursty". For example I lose packets (10-25%) when I ping
across the network and ftp transfers are jerky. Has anyone experienced
this?
FYI, my network consists of two linux boxes, one doing ip masquerading
whilst attached to my ISP via modem, and several windows boxes. The
performance I see is consistant regardless of which boxes are
communicating. Can anyone suggest a way to eliminate the observed
latencies?
-Gary
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Samba--Who am I?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Clark)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 13:27:40 GMT
In article <7pla6l$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Hiawatha Bray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Thanks for all the help in getting Samba to work. I still have more
>questions, though.
>
>I'm signed onto the Linux box with the same user name I assigned to the
>Windows computer. Can I sign onto Samba using the same Windows computer but
>a different username, such as root? If so, how is this done? Thanks.
Yes, but Windows will fight you at every turn. I don't have a Windows
machine handy, but if you open up a DOS session you can use NET USE. It
has options to specify the username and password, IIRC.
Try NET HELP USE | MORE for details...
Rob Clark, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.o2.net/~Gromitkc/winmodem.html
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From: Roland Schatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: network printers
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 14:58:12 +0200
Hi
I want to change my Novell file- and printserver into a linux server
with samba. For file shares everything works fine, but I have no idea
how to connect to printers that are directly connected to the network.
Does anyone know how to do this?
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Subject: Re: PAP authentication error
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Clark)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 13:38:31 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Greg W. Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>I'm a bit of a newbie when it comes to Linux (red hat 6) and I'm having
>problems when it comes to connecting to my isp (best.com) via ISDN with
>an external 3Com impactIQ on com1 I keep getting: "pppd[2212]: PAP
>authentication failed"
>
>I wonder if any one can point me in the right direction. I've read web
>pages, howto documents and other docs until the words blur together. I
>kinda feel so close but yet so far from successfully connecting. I've
>tried kppp and don't have any better success.
...
>pap-secrets
>
># Secrets for authentication using PAP
># client server secret IP addresses
> gregm ppp0 XXXXXXX
Change the "ppp0" to "*"... this is the name of the server, not the
interface. I presume you don't care about the name of the server :)
>Aug 18 17:52:11 gregm modprobe: can't locate module char-major-45
>Aug 18 17:52:42 gregm last message repeated 82 times
Something to do with isdn(?) Sorry, no help here :(
Rob Clark, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html
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From: Jerry Abramson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How do you setup an IMAP server on Linux ...
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 09:38:58 -0400
Can I get server-held folders?
Is there a howto or FAQ?
--
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_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ Jerold A. Abramson
_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Lucent Technologies
_/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ Marlboro, MA
_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ (508) 468-2109
_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Subject: Re: what does MS dial up networking do that PPP doesn't ?
Date: 20 Aug 1999 16:41:47 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Teonanacatl wrote:
>Cameron,
>
>One thing that the DUN (Dial Up Networking) adapter does default to is
>PAP user authentication. You don't have to explicitly invoke it, but
>you can explicitly invoke other types of user authentication when using
>the DUN adapter.
>
>It is unwise to persist in the belief that there is somehow "more" in
>the DUN connection sequence than in what is possible or available in
>Linux.
I didn't mean to imply that more is *unavailable*.
I've written some rather complex chat sequences.
It's just that MS-DUN does things *automatically* that
Linux chat+pppd need to be *told* to do, and I am
trying to discover exactly what those things might be.
>I would remind you that there was an internet and PPP
>connectivity long before Win95 even existed.
ISTR that PPP began replacing SLIP in about 1993.
I also seem to recall discussing the differences between
MS-DUN and the reference PPP implementation with engineers
at a certain well-known manufacturer of terminal concentrators
(now called Remote Access Controllers) in about 1996,
and how they had to add elaborate code to handle both kinds
transparently. The engineers were frustrated at the
marketing department's unwillingness to let them support
the reference PPP implementation if it meant a day's
delay in shipping. Only MS-DUN was mandatory in the product.
It seems Microsoft has Total Control of certain companies that
appear to be independent of them, if you get my drift.
>
>Now, it is vital to know what type of user authentication is used at the
>service where you wish to connect.
ISTM I'm not getting as far as user authentication. My PPPd
gives up after sending six config requests. Config requests come
before auth, don't they?
> At most ISPs one would expect them
>to know.
This is not an ISP, it's a corporate data center. I work at one
division and I'm tasked with connecting to an intranet at another,
and the VPN is not in place yet.
>More importantly that all the above, however, is the fact that you CAN
>go into the control panel of windoz, networking, and see EXACTLY what
>the configuration settings are. You can then go to your DUN icon, right
>click it to get to it's properties as well. Therefore, if there are
>scripts in use, or other types of authentication, YOU can know without
>the benefit of the idiots at the service.
I did that. There are no scripts. MS-DUN is doing *something*
on its own.
Unfortunately, my work PC has an internal modem, so I can't hook up
a serial port sniffer, or I'd do the world a favor here and
reverse engineer MS-DUN. Just surprised nobody else has done it.
Cameron
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