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Jim Roland, RHCE (RedHat Certified Engineer)
Owner, Roland Internet Services
"The four surefire rules for success: Show up, Pay attention, Ask
questions, Don't quit."
--Rob Gilbert, PH.D.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jim Roland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: do i need any programming skills to compile my own kernel?
> On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Jim Roland wrote:
>
> > > One thing i dont understand is why people dont "express" the need to
define an
> > > "EXTRAVERSTION" in the Topdir Makefile, when the option was not there
just
> > > about everyone was screeming for it, now we have that wonderfull
option very
> > > few people advise the use of it. Or thats the way it seems.
> >
> > The drawback of using ExtraVersion is that a new set of modules have to
be
> > created. If you are dealing with module code and a new kernel, then
IMHO
> > it's a good idea. I will admit that people are little bit lazy when it
> > comes to ExtraVersion, myself included (although I have used it on
> > occaision). For a newbie, I didn't even want to cover it just yet.
>
> Nope i dont think i agree, i belive if one defines;
> CONFIG_MODVERSIONS
> One can use modules from another kernel version.
> Or at least that is what i use.
>
> > > Another note here, if i may.
> > > I was taught that when one makes and installs a new kernel do it by
hand, IE,
> > > dont use the make install option "unless you KNOW" your new kernel is
ok,
> > > simply add a new entry to /etc/lilo.conf and rerun lilo, this way one
keeps his
> > > old kernel intact and ready to fall back on if ones new kernel fails.
> >
> > As long as you install once, the old kernel is kept (just renamed), and
> > one could "cp" the vmlinuz.old to vmlinuz and rerun their boot loader
> > (lilo -C /mnt/etc/lilo.conf assuming the / partition is mounted in /mnt)
> > and reboot. I've never had any problems with compiling and creating to
> > HD, besides I'm using slackware 3.1 on a box (originally kernel v1.2)
and
> > it works fine.
>
> O yes, i agree with you, as long as you install once, but, when one
installs
> the new kernel and it does not boot, you are "up the creek without a
paddle".
> That is why i expess the need to ether make a new entery in /etc/lilo.conf
> adding the new kernel and leaving the old one bootable, or, the use of
> 'make zdisk'.
If you create the rescue and boot disks (a MUST for any linux installation,
including RedHat) you can recover from the problem very easily. I'm signing
off of this part of the thread...I don't want to confuse any newbies with a
Tomato/Tomatoe discussion. That's the beauty of Linux, increased control
and 10 different ways to do the same thing. :)
> >
> > > The way i found to be safest when i was a newbie was 'make zdisk'
allowing one
> > > to boot from floppy keeping the origanal kernel intacht without even
using lilo.
> > > Once the new kernel on floppy has proved itself 'make zlilo' is a good
option.
> > >
> > > Come to think of it when i was a newbie there were not many other make
options
> > > to choose from. ;-)
> >
> > Those were the days... :-P
>
> Well i dont think i would like it if there wern' all those noce options
anymore.
>
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > Jim Roland, RHCE (RedHat Certified Engineer)
> > > > Owner, Roland Internet Services
> > > > "The four surefire rules for success: Show up, Pay attention,
Ask
> > > > questions, Don't quit."
> > > > --Rob Gilbert, PH.D.
> > > >
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> > >
> > > --
> > > Regards Richard
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > http://people.zeelandnet.nl/pa3gcu/
> > >
> >
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