On Wednesday 23 October 2002 16:31, Paul Krause wrote: > 4 for and 1 against. You really slammed it. Can I inquire as to why you > like suse? Sorry but being pro Suse was not the intended meaning. In fact that is the very inverse of intent.
For Suse The best set of programs Against Suse The most screwed up configuration program possible. As I said when I got my first Suse distribution back in the 5.3 days "It is a very good European distribution - - - and it should stay in Europe." Major point to this is I could not then configure ppp correctly. Well I acquired Suse 8.1 and guess what I still can not configure the modem correctly. Also it seems that they left kppp out and used some of their weird setup programs again. Another point setting up my scanner on Suse is so complicated that the whole linux club gave up in total complete flustration. By comarsion settion it up on RH is a 2 minute command line exercise if you know what you are doing; I do not. For Mandrake 7 I like it but the versions I had were 2 distributions behind times. I got them free at our linux club to test. It seems like a very nice distribution but at the time I thought RH was headed in the right direction - that was when RH came out with 7.2. It looks loke this is where I am heades unless RH strightens itself out. Since none of the distributions bring anything major program improvements to the part at this time this decision will probable be at least a year into the future meaning after the 2.5 core, KDE 3.1 etc. Why do I trash RH 8.0 so much? Well it is because of my expectations. I expected 8.0 to simply correct the bad parts of RH 7.3 which I think is approaching a very decent distribution. I did not expect RH to go bonkers and trash KDE. In general I like the KDE GUI on which I utilize what I feel is the best selection of KDE and the Gnome programs. By correct I mean the following. Correct the printer problems. When the printer works it it works great in B&W but not color. It is a color HP Deskjet. But! If for some reason you have a bad print file it will spit out reams of paper and is impossible to reset from the GUI. You must go to command line and remember the correct commands. There is a major set up problems with my HP 6100 scanners. Not a clue what the problem all I know is it is a scanner recognition problem. The scanner is an HP 6100. RH says it is an HP 2464 or some such. There is setup problems with XCDRoast. I have this one working. As for the people who like RH I am willing to bet that they also like the Gnome GUI. On this I am willing to make a guess that the real problem is the licensing agreement KDE uses and the fact that American industry is so fed up with MS and their licensing agreements that RH is removing all vestages of commercialization from RH as fast as possible. That being said I find it strange that RH used Mozelle which is 95% Netscape which is owned now by AOL. I know about the change in licensing for Mozelle but there are probable a number of court cases there if push comes to shove. What I suspect the situation there is that the equivalent browser, email, et in Gnome are not up to Mozelle level yet. If that is true then one should suspect that when they are at that level Mozelle will depart. I note this in particular because Netscape in my MS box has a nasty habit of reporting in to Net Central Command (now part of AOL). Point is I utterly hate programs that utilizes large amounts of band width to down load a bunch of commercial crap and which one has the suspicion that is being used as a Trojan Horse to scan and report which programs are legally on a computer. How does this interlate with RH 8.0? Well I think it is all related by attitudes on licensing agreements and that that attitude is what the real problem with RH 8.0 distribution really is. Thanks Frank - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-newbie" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.linux-learn.org/faqs
