NO ENGINEERING certificate is required in the US to design routers or associated devices or for that matter any form of internet equipment.
Frank On Tuesday 24 February 2004 01:13 pm, John T. Williams wrote: > What if someone hacks belkin's web server and puts an browser exploit on > the page which causes the computer to be infected with a virus maybe > [EMAIL PROTECTED] DOSing belkin and sco? > > > This is a clear ethics violation by the rules taught in my Computer > Professionalism class. The Engineers who designed and built it should be > required to re-qualify for their engineering certification, making > special point to re-read the ethics qualifications. If I designed a > elevator that sometimes took you to the floor I wanted rather then the > one you wanted, I'd still be in jail. > > On Tue, 2004-02-24 at 09:57, Frank Roberts - SOTL wrote: > > Hi All > > > > You are certainly correct but you need to take that thought a bit futher. > > > > What if this is not the ONLY method of extraneous control that is built > > into the product? > > > > What is hackers find out how to control your routers by this method. > > > > What if you use such products and this causes a loss of control of a > > critical systen? > > > > What if this irresponsibility causes major loss? > > > > Frank > > > > On Tuesday 24 February 2004 08:54 am, Rei Shinozuka wrote: > > > that is a *horrifying* story. i'll certainly join you in boycotting > > > belkin products while they maintain such a heinous policy and > > > unapologetic tone. the mind boggles when you consider that the maker > > > of a NIC chip could do something similar, or a video card maker could > > > paint pop-up ads right into the frame buffer, a keyboard maker could > > > make the keyboard change "http:..." strings to other URLs. > > > > > > i think the ghastliest line was that "The router would grab a random > > > HTTP connection every eight hours and redirect it to Belkin's (push) > > > advertised web page." you would really begin to suspect your devices > > > were consipiring against you--and in this case, you'd be right!! > > > > > > the following page has more info, including belkin's weak response: > > > http://www.marco.org/content/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=36 > > > > > > just do a google search on "boycott belkin" > > > > > > thanks for sharing, frank > > > > > > -rei > > > > > > ----- Forwarded message from Frank Roberts - SOTL > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ----- > > > > > > Hi All > > > > > > For a week or so now I have been starting up my laptop in the office > > > and receiving a immediate pop-up spam add. > > > > > > Havinf all filters turned on including security, popups and cookies I > > > was going nuts trying to figure out how I had became infected with a > > > url transfer spam program in my Linux box. > > > > > > Thanks to a posting on another list I was able to ascertain that what > > > is happening is that a router company has initiated an add campain of > > > popups through their routers. > > > The URL that always appears is: > > > http://filter.belkin.com/setup.asp?SN=BEL13KK0&RP=21456&IP=192.168.0.2&; > > >FV=2 .00.04 > > > > > > which is a Belkin Router add. > > > > > > The following story explains the situation: > > > http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/11/07/1740205&tid=153 > > > > > > My solution to this issue is to post notices on all know BB that if you > > > buy Belkin products expects spam from Belkin. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Frank > > > - > > > > > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > > > - > > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-newbie" > > in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > > Please read the FAQ at http://www.linux-learn.org/faqs - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-newbie" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.linux-learn.org/faqs
