I can't remember when this has happened to me in the last 3 years that I have used linux, so I am a little embarassed to ask this question, so you fellow vets out there, don't flame my rear-end! :) It seems that something has occured to this box to make it so that when a user executes the "su" binary to login as root, and gives the correct password, su returns a error message that the password is incorrect, yet all attempts to login to root from a login screen are successful, so the correctness of the password is not an issue...has anyone had this same problem before and if so, let me know, because until I can figure out why "pam is not finding the password", a couple of my users won't have su access. ThanX guys... Woody Computer Technician Security Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 mQGiBDXjMXgRBADZIhpCT0/bgCd9X9DjZ9xfTdWTaA8FLaXVUaGjYH9l0DBqUAPH 3uA+i1LZQ9BwXYKvb95KWZwWUZlIdEs9NGvsVARRPr3TSYjlT6gCeWecRhhW6rPa Xc1aDmXfkuYmNntVjDyODJyDL4rLtBTQRMQZbOIIFZZG5WnXO8/BAyVyEwCg/+0D gAJv5KCjl46ZOsGlGjWtetcD/1c4+JT/d1ai3AtR+ba651xMqHbuxziObkh5DEd4 vpWCZtTPRJ/0/ZZJram9oeSbBXDKUmdhEjt7bTVjoehBu4iyYs3ujt5lHoWs1pF5 o+yL044H7ENVB9yLXYOuz+10O8Szx+vgRZ9BGhga6vwN9SkMfnPXtvP72ihFcQi3 XwzVBACsBQRmPqoa0bVWOhbTDUZPtKOcR0N6tzdDEx/RkXD+AIP8kjOGT4c1xBR/ /2YtRr0UE6E8gqCG0FC2X3ydsoiVOXJ+J7/ayrprEiJOyzznMCIUoaoooG7FYFGh ECw9t66/aKHsaBVvY5X8Fi+kleKBUqqf1MMt/NxET4bIYgc4CbQnUHJpbmNlIEN0 cmwgPHByaW5jZWN0cmxAcm9ja2V0bWFpbC5jb20+iQBLBBARAgALBQI14zF4BAsD AQIACgkQM6/H2FiCUeLxOQCdFXkQv8NQ2TSfl6O7CmDr/8z5e+AAoPmQ/cFjzVi3 SJg6hY//yg+LvISguQIaBDXjNR8QCDMHMKqc+9owThYgvkRTgaPtcKXZ03l99tKl OpXPkOEwIG39pE3szc6RHKMo9Lf3cLV800j73Zz+vKGOfSkzI+tKlq8x/hMjk1Q8 kh2u7G7rq56edaV6pPJ7LrNYshWimV0v+GVYv1zjunZa4BUgAn1cWKphW1pi8rpE OetMePKmQGS14gjf+R464g9ziT3utPhrxJiMn075RMpaniChy9hTN0F2CkIgtFEg nOTp4OAE9tE7ZqXSDfeEGDLiLopbC86i4hyCcm6qCIPqkSwObWlOe387eGafyRYY ChfBLlVN7YckMowld4uKj7QYMwFQ1Xiim3wTuiB7gwJTz0Uiog3isy41deFPJwAC Aggw+OOfkiSVaq/NOr/LazKOc6mkBPThvTb9KR1zIh5lupMM3g04e8d80Y+aMuba Z1O6Bt5oqP6I2wU24aSBVYnc0bAvvaLCKC+r950bRXvVjPGqPQQoXVDsSMjIGzZm 4O6WFRHzBdY/PNCaylQL+8XGuPt6pK+2SgqwHl5yrOK9lN6t/OyiCfQrkOVPA1R+ fI9v70zbY4LvBMB4WMDJ2bk7uQTr/GmzoVWV9hLKXH1DbHzWrTJlTN8OC5FLfQEC tmNIkbadRUdjRhZ+YtmWgrqEa6aHpUUD04KGm3PIZh3/JgPtzG/lA8RY1pGnzewq 4H4hQiG9ImvcZ3ZxJfHYO32QWwtOh/TbuYkAPwMFGDXjNR8zr8fYWIJR4hECTE8A n249s7c1tZeg/mYjmnh4KuuTHrKrAJsHefJCaSmUHseZctAR6yY47I+euA== =8EWi -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
