I don't have anything to connect the memory issue (if it IS an issue) to
my ppp connection problem, except the fact that they *may* have cleared
up once I rebooted.

The box described is a 486.  It runs little besides some basic services
(FTP, sometimes httpd, junkbuster proxy and netatalk server being the
big ones).  Connected to it via Ethernet is another Linux client and a
Mac client.  I've not made many mods beyond the RH 5.0 install.  2.0.34
kernel.

There was nothing in /var/log/* about the memory problem.  Also, the
dropped connections show nothing I didn't already know.  For instance, a
hangup says "hangup (SIGHUP)".  Well, this is exactly what a normal
hangup looks like, so that's not very helpful.

I HAVE noticed, however the following message occasionally: 

Unsupported protocol (0xd) received

This message doesn't necessarily correlate to any issues I'm having,
however.

Attached find the asked-for stats.

My main question is: Why the "memory exhausted" message from "who"?  I'm
perfectly willing to accept that either my phone line or ISP sucks to
explain the rest.

Ray Olszewski wrote:
> 
> Yes, it does need an explanation. But do realize that what you're describing
> now is very different from your original, general question.
> 
> Look at your log files (probably /var/log/messages and /var/log/debug, but
> the exact names are somewhat installation specific) and see what they report
> about the "memory exhausted" problem. Post those messages, along with a
> basic description of your system -- what distribution and version of Linux,
> how much physical memory, how much swap space -- and the output of "ps -ax",
> "free", "uptime", and "df".
> 
> Also post the log entries from one of the failed ISP connections that
> occurred about the time you encountered the "memory exhausted" message. I
> assume this is a modem connection using pppd - if it's something more
> exotic, mention that too.
> 
> When you had the problem, were you running X, and if so, were you running
> any substantial X app (such as Netscape or Gimp)? And can you remember
> EXACTLY what the message was (a plain "memory exhausted" isn't complete -
> there would at least have been an indication of the process reporting the
> error)?
> 
> If you want to have better info if the problem occurs again, run "top" on
> one virtual terminal or in an xterm, then see what it is reporting about
> memory when the problem occurs (you'll need it running since if you can't
> run "who", you probably won't be able to run "free" either). If you do this
> and want help interpreting what you see, send ALL the info that appears on
> the first 5 lines of the "top" display.
> 
> Without those basic facts, any attempt to troubleshoot your problem is
> limited to wild guesses. But in any case, cache and buffer memory *isn't*
> the cause.
> 
> At 02:37 PM 6/12/99 -0700, David Rysdam wrote:
> >HOWEVER, there's still something amiss.  Or at least there was the other
> >day.  Let me explain:
> >
> >I've been having on and off problems with my ISP.  Things like not being
> >able to connect, dropped connections, slow tranfers over supposedly fast
> >connections, etc.  On Wed it was being particularly slow all of a sudden
> >and I thought to myself "What if someone hacked into my server and is
> >tranferring files or something?".  So as part of my checking around I
> >tried to do a "who" on the server--and I got a "memory exhausted"
> >message.  I had an uptime of about 50 days until then and was down to 2
> >MB.  I don't know what the cache and buffer values were.  I messed with
> >this a bit and then decided to reboot.  No ISP problems since (although
> >that could easily be coincidence).  Now I'm back down to ~2 MB but "who"
> >works correctly.
> >
> >In any case the "memory exhausted" message needs an explanation.
> [prior messages deleted]
> ------------------------------------"Never tell me the odds!"---
> Ray Olszewski                                        -- Han Solo
> Palo Alto, CA  94303-3603                       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ----------------------------------------------------------------

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  PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND
    1  ?  S    0:03 init [3] 
    2  ?  SW   0:00 (kflushd)
    3  ?  SW<  0:00 (kswapd)
   48  ?  S    0:08 /sbin/kerneld 
  207  ?  S    0:36 syslogd 
  216  ?  S    0:00 klogd 
  238  ?  S    0:00 crond 
  249  ?  S    0:00 inetd 
  296  ?  S    0:00 atalkd 
  319   1 S    0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty1 
  320   2 S    0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty2 
  321   3 S    0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty3 
  322   4 S    0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty4 
  323   5 S    0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty5 
  325  ?  S    0:00 update (bdflush) 
  326   6 S    0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty6 
  367  ?  S    0:00 papd 
  376  ?  S    0:03 afpd -g nobody -c 5 -n linux.home.net 
10546  ?  S    0:00 in.telnetd 
12842  S0 S    0:00 /usr/sbin/pppd login debug lock modem crtscts /dev/ttyS0 115
13709  ?  S    0:00 in.rlogind 
13897  ?  S    0:00 in.rlogind 
13910  p1 S    0:00 su 
13911  p1 S    0:00 bash 
13941  p1 R    0:00 ps ax 
  227  ?  S    0:00 /usr/sbin/atd 
  258  ?  S    0:32 /usr/sbin/junkbuster /etc/junkbuster/config 
13710  p0 S    0:00 login -p -h biglinux home.net -f drysdam 
13711  p0 S    0:00 -bash 
13898  p1 S    0:00 login -p -h biglinux home.net -f drysdam 
13899  p1 S    0:00 -bash 
10544  ?  S    0:09 afpd -g nobody -c 5 -n linux.home.net 
10547  p2 S    0:00 /bin/login -h littlehachi home.net -p 
10548  p2 S    0:00 -bash 
Filesystem         1024-blocks  Used Available Capacity Mounted on
/dev/hda1             495714  405488    64625     86%   /
  3:22pm  up 2 days, 19:49,  3 users,  load average: 0.07, 0.05, 0.06
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:         34852      33776       1076      13436      10564      15928
-/+ buffers/cache:       7284      27568
Swap:        20124          0      20124

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