On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 01:44:15AM -0500, Karthik Vishwanath wrote:
> What is the difference between 
> ls -lF | grep -e d* and 
> grep -e d* | ls -lF ? 

ls -lF | grep -e d*

this means run the command ls -lF[1] and then take anything that 
comes out of standard out[2] and feed it into standard in[2] of grep -e d* 
which does different things based on the directory that you are in.

Because you have typed d* instead of "d*" 'd*' or d\* [3]. The shell
expands the * . 

        1.
        If you are in a directory with no files that begin with 'd',
        then. csh and tcsh will expand the * to match the null string
        and complain to the screen 'grep: No match.' bash and ksh will 
        not expand the * and will pass it to grep. grep will then look 
        at d* interperet it by he rules of regular expressions[4]. 

        d* means to match any line that has 0 or more d's( every line i've
        ever seen :-) ), so grep will end up matching everything and the
        output of ls -lF will come out to the original standard out.

        2.
        If you are in a directory with one file starting with d, grep
        will show all lines from ls -lF that contain the name of that
        file[5].

        3.
        If you are in a directory with multiple files, grep will take
        the name of the first file beginning with d and look for that
        name in all of the other files that begin with 'd'.


grep -e d* | ls -lF 

lists all files in the current directory in long format[6], with indicators 
of filename appended[1]. The grep command does nothing important, except that
if d* expands to nothing, you will see an error message before the directory
listing, either from your shell or grep. 

> 
> Where can I find docs on things such as these? 
>

[1] man ls
[2] man stdin/stdout/stderr ( not real good but I can't find anything better ) 
[3] man csh, tcsh, zshexpn, bash, ksh
[4] man 7 regex
[5] man grep && [p]info grep

> Thanks,
> -Karthik.
> 
> Whatever you want to do, you have to do something else first.
have fun 

greg
--
why do you trust your compiler?

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