On Thu 27-07-17 19:05:24, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 2:57 PM, Ross Zwisler
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 10:09:07AM -0400, Jeff Moyer wrote:
> >> Jan Kara <[email protected]> writes:
> >>
> >> Hi, Jan,
> >>
> >> Thanks for looking into this!
> >>
> >> > There are couple of open questions with this implementation:
> >> >
> >> > 1) Is it worth the hassle?
> >> > 2) Is S_SYNC good flag to use or should we use a new inode flag?
> >> > 3) VM_FAULT_RO and especially passing of resulting 'pfn' from
> >> >    dax_iomap_fault() through filesystem fault handler to 
> >> > dax_pfn_mkwrite() in
> >> >    vmf->orig_pte is a bit of a hack. So far I'm not sure how to refactor
> >> >    things to make this cleaner.
> >>
> >> 4) How does an application discover that it is safe to flush from
> >>    userspace?
> >
> > I think that we would be best off with a new flag available via
> > lsattr(1)/chattr(1).  This would have the following advantages:
> >
> > 1) We could only set the flag if the inode supported DAX (either via the 
> > mount
> > option or via the individual DAX flag).  This would give NVML et al. one
> > central way to detect whether it was safe to flush from userspace because 
> > the
> > FS supported synchronous faults.
> >
> > 2) Defining a new flag prevents any confusion about whether the kernel 
> > version
> > you have supports sync faults.  Otherwise NVML would have to do something 
> > like
> > look at the trio of (kernel version, S_SYNC flag, mount/inode option for 
> > DAX)
> > which is complex and of course breaks for OS kernel versions.
> >
> > 3) Defining the flag in a generic way via lsattr/chattr opens the door for 
> > the
> > same API and flag to be used by other filesystems in the future.
> 
> I would advocate using a new fcntl() instead of lsattr for the
> following reason: ISTM the fact that it's an *inode* flag in this
> patchset is a bit of an implementation detail.  I can easily imagine a
> future implementation that makes it per-struct-file instead.  A
> fcntl() that asks "can I flush from userspace" would still work under
> than scenario.

Well, you are right I can make the implementation work with struct file
flag as well - let's call it O_DAXDSYNC. However there are filesystem
operations where you may need to answer question: Is there any fd with
O_DAXDSYNC open against this inode (for operations that change file offset
-> block mapping)? And in that case inode flag is straightforward while
file flag is a bit awkward (you need to implement counter of fd's with that
flag in the inode).

                                                                Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <[email protected]>
SUSE Labs, CR
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