On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 10:20 PM, Felipe Contreras
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 7:01 PM, Woodruff, Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:linux-omap-
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Lindgren
>>> * Hiroshi DOYU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080815 13:34]:
>>> > Thank you guys for your comments,
>>> >
>>> > It seems that some of the patches couldn't be sent to ML because of
>>> > the size limitation of vger.kernel.org ML. Now Tony is finding the
>>> > place to put the rest up on somewhere for review. I don't know if
>>> > reviwing these base code makes so much sense at this momenent,
>>> > though..which doesn't mean "no probelm";p
>>>
>>> I've copied your patches to:
>>>
>>> http://www.muru.com/linux/tidspbridge/
>>>
>>> > I hope that everyone could work together on this branch without any
>>> > problems eventually.
>>>
>>> We need to also figure out who's going to maintain the dspbridge
>>> branch. Ideally somebody with experience with dsp and linux..
>>
>> Really all the design, maintenance and test experience of that code is 
>> inside of TI.  This has lived for years and derivates have shipped in 
>> products.  Who ever watches over it needs to be able to provide a creditable 
>> multi-year commitment.
>>
>> As part of contributing this code there has been a lot of reworking of the 
>> code. Last I had heard checkpatch and sparse warnings had been killed. There 
>> was also a lot of work in making sure there would be no legal impact to the 
>> kernel to clear its ability to be contributed.
>
> Not true: 13 errors, 246 warnings.
>
>> If people really need it to work and not re-wait for a year, some sane 
>> strategy needs to be employed. Most people in the mainline kernel just won't 
>> care about a niche driver like this. As such the only real gate for its 
>> inclusion is mainly _here_.
>>
>> As there are many users/customers putting a solid and functional 1.0 in 
>> place would benefit everyone who needs it and would allow cooperative 
>> development to ensure it would indeed work starting _today_ and continuing 
>> into the future.  TI users _today_ use and need this bridge.
>>
>> Major interface and functional partitioning changes will happen as such a 
>> piece of code evolves. This kind of thing seems more like 2.0 goals.  The 
>> point is that is something to be planned in a ToDo list.  Are their missing 
>> functions in what it provides today?
>>
>> For this kind of piece to be successful it needs support from many sides.
>>
>> TI is willing to support this and has the necessary critical technical 
>> context, incentive and attention span. Agreement is needed on roadmap 
>> aspects of the code. If that doesn't happen what will result is a lot of 
>> local patches on everyone's development tree.
>
> What TI has offered so far is code, and the comments have been on this
> code. You seem to want maintainers to understand that this is code
> that works "today", but I don't think the code can be tested right now
> since the tools (CE/Link) are not available out in the open.

Err, I got confused about the CE/Link, I meant the xdctools... or
whatever is needed to compile DSP nodes. AFAIK the DSP compiler is not
enough.

-- 
Felipe Contreras
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