> Well, what about when I want the machine to suspend _regardless_ of whether
> or not it's idle at the moment?  That actually happens quite often to me. :-)

I don't think it helps to combine them for this discussion ?

> I don't see much difference between that and ACPI S3 other than the memory
> contents are preserved in S3.  It also is complete power off state - except 
> for
> memory refresh and wakeup sources (which also may be active in S4).

Agreed although I am pushed to think of many real world cases where it
might matter. VM's maybe?

Alan
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