> From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Wed Apr 18 05:56:24 2001
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, ritz wrote:
> > > we're going to add another server in the next couple of months. I've always
> > > used software RAID & SCSI in the past, but the prices of the ATA RAID
> > > controllers+drives would save me money. I was looking at the Promise
> > > supertrack100 for RAID 5. I didn't see it (or any ATA raid stuff) in Red
> > > Hat's compatibility list. However, I thought this was something I read would
> > > be added in the 2.4.x kernels, and therefore will be supported in 7.1.
> > > Anyone have any experience or recommendations on this subject? BTW, I'm more
> > > concerned w/ reliability than speed. TIA.
> > 
> > The supertrack is ungodly slow.  There was a review of it at
> > storagereview.com not too long ago.  You may want to consider
> > the 3Ware cards instead.  They are supported by the 2.4 kernels
> > natively and by earlier kernels with the included driver disks
> > they ship.  Also, they now support RAID 5.  You simply update
> > the firmware with the current rev when you get the board.  Oh
> > yeah, the 8-port model is also a bit cheaper than the 6-port
> > supertrack.
> 
> I haven't seen any UDMA RAID cards which provide decent RAID-5
> performance. Bearing in mind that recent UDMA drives can sustain 30 MB/s
> read or write, the average RAID-5 card (IIRC) can handle maybe 5-10 MB/s
> when it should be doing 60-100 MB/s. This is because the on-board
> processors used on UDMA RAID cards are completely inadequate for RAID-5.

Yup.  But the same could be said of "consumer level" SCSI RAID 5 cards.
Generating the parity bits on writes certainly takes a lot of grunt.

> > I've been using the 4-port and 8-port cards with RH6.2/7.0 and
> > even Windows2000 with great success.  Like you, I'd been using
> > software RAID for years, but got tired of things breaking at
> > each new kernel release and having to hunt down the various
> > patches.  8-(  The hardware RAID cards make it pretty painless.
> 
> What about if the card dies and nobody can ship you a replacement for two
> weeks? With software RAID you can put the hard disks in a completely
> different machine and get it running straight off :)

That applies for ANY bit of hardware, not just the RAID card.  Any
sane person would keep a spare around for production work.  That 
said, I've not had one of these (of the 20 or so I have) fail in
a year's time.

Cheers,

C
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Chris Mauritz
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